and welcome to cross stock where all things are considered. i'm peter levelland, french president, emmanuel. the ground says he's advocating strategic ambiguity when it comes to ukraine. this includes funding western military personnel to fight for kids. this is not strategic ambiguity, but rather strategic confusion. the prospect in ukraine, i'm joined by my guess oprah desires in geneva. he is an author and former un independent expert in international order in brussels. we turn to appear emmanuel. tom, mom, he is electra at leon university and in nice we crossed to alex, become well rich. he is a veteran reporter and foreign affairs analyst. all right, gentlemen, cross cycles and effects. that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate it. i'll let somebody go to you 1st and nice because you're in france, so nice. so i started out with the french president here. he says he's advocating a form of strategic ambiguity. and then he says,

under the conditions in which he will send troops, his troops, they filled troops, somebody's troops, i don't know of, and those conditions, are it kids lines break, or they a request is made, prized zelinski. so it, i don't see that is m b and beauty. i find it confusing and certainly very dangerous. go ahead, alex, find the beauty, right. it's one of 2 things. either you don't know what you're talking finally, because you see like it's, it's, it's that simple. going along the lines and then saying he's going to send troops. and if a line breaks or if you create, makes a request. well, i think you create, we've already made that requested, but i had a chance to make a request. these, these are, you'll find the sky ideas. and i felt like little napoleon here, he's, he's pushing out all these ideas to, to need while they don't really not even bathroom on it. you talk at the same politician, nobody wants to go until you create official. now the other side of the court is we know that since 2014, they couldn't use the americans, the french for this. everybody stayed on the ground in ukraine unofficially. so

what does this make of what differences are stable makes big difference. actually, when you're looking at the diplomatic, see your face, when you say you're basically on the ground, well, that takes things off a level and that's what people are sick and tired. we need to stop this type of rhetoric. we should be pulling back. we know what the situation is on the ground. why hasn't been broken time and time again because you creative backing off their backing off their mind is being broken very quickly and solidly in the past few months. so why would background say this pastor, i mean, you have germany, which is the economic engine of europe. and then you have france, which is the most hardcore military, let's say the troops are exist as are the military here in europe. they, they, armstrong, so we know that about france, but that does not mean that you shouldn't be rattling that sort as much as i get rambling it. i hope that the president, she told him a thing or 2 about the call to actually run these days because i need to sometimes how the adults in the room and we know when back from that with him,

we all know who looked like the adult in the room, so let's pull back, let's start playing these uh, you know, to slow your games with one another. let's get some solution. yeah, i agree. i offered, you know, the but if you look at the, the, the predicate of the crown statements and he's got his all over the place. he actually was very conciliatory in the beginning of all of this. now he just wants to be the hock, in nato. but you know, the, the, the way, the conditions that he said they know if the lines break and the silence he makes the call. doesn't that tell you that the ukraine is losing and maybe they should try a different strategy, alfred. or obviously a plan is losing and they know what they're learning and sales on under pressure. and this makes me think of another price. napoleon, i fully understood who did not stop provoking the impressions

and his arrow against the to watch them eventually just to say, face to declare war on profile, which he lost in 6 months now. um, we don't ones that we have no clear states that can destroy not only themselves but the rest of humanity. so you need to break that gridlock. you would need to break the bridge as you need to accept the fact that the whether we like it or not, we live on only one planet and uh, we cannot afford to continue with escalation. what is not only mat crohn who's mad it is joe biden? and anthony blanket and all of phillips and his born minister, and really so much, and it's 4 minutes or so. uh,

david camera on there. oh, using very belligerent rhetoric. well, i mean, okay, now the other 2 brought up a camera on i'll go to appear menu. well, i mean, he very loosely said, you know, that you, you, craig can use whatever british weapons they want and wherever they want, even against rush i brush are proper. and then the, the, the, the response to that is that the russians are saying, well, they will respond to any use of weapons that use against rush are used by the ukrainians. if it's use in ukraine or even beyond ukraine. now that is getting serious business here. go ahead peer emanuel. yes. it's your looks like and not chief of for or west on states and the re friend so. so trying to take the lead, know of the and not cheap for underlying got to are you create a new will be the winnings along. russia should lose football. and this is not the

up thing on the grounds. so regarding the public opinion or the very lies there being a top 30 misinterpreting re so crises from the beginning paper, notice they understand more about the tour of this not to less fate and the images and much more like overall wisdom the just been don't know, what to do more to, to still appear as critical or andrew are the way the filed is to increase or the, your okesha narrative like cook reaching troops on the wrong division, midsize or hitching your territory of russia or vote from the french. both of you, your good or so these are in town or the debate in france, we'd be a nixton's jump in part of an approaching wherever. to put

a stick are thought to be money. very micro is very, it is gonna lose the butter because there are some of them on this renada. these main opposition be for me still about they're not on buying, looking uh is no but dollar dollars votes expected from the bought to you have made money very much. okay. so he liked great falsities, not cheap of being very strongly international. they don't have very many, well, let me ask the question, do young uh french soldiers want to go fight in ukraine? apparently they're already there. so i'm a, i mean i, it would be the, the, the general staff of france will allow them across to make that decision. i mean, or even the people make a decision here, the same, this, the stikes, the mistakes are so high for someone pastoring. yes, that's right. of each center was because, or it looks like your view is narrow, achieve is increasing and the rising mistakes on in the end. we don't know because

to look pretty border or imaging about home might to be your feel obliged to do something to do it was in to really troops officially. we don't know, but or many general are seen for us expos, stacy, issues, she's are, you will be a disaster or because for us as not because i really teach with strategic, i'm big. you t your need the you should really tell, recopy, beatitude behind on for us as is not ready for i entered city wall and this is why it is so denture was renewal, but we also already some instruct jobs on the grounds, and of it tried to hide this fact, and the question is, would it become office charge with troops on the grounds? and the, even though we've been minimum reverse of troops, right? each would be a disaster. un, under most a french deeper does that really. but the main part of the card properties of position does that really? but, but it would be smart tv student going on

a think on to the end of your painted extra estimate maybe. well, i mean, you know, it's, i mean, it was good and let me go to alex back and needs it. it was pretty pathetic if you're doing this kind of calculation based on europe and elections that the stakes are much higher then these elections coming up here. you know, the problem alex here is that the chrome keeps saying russia should not be allowed to win. is that a strategy? what about ukraine? go ahead. no. i mean that that's a big question and i what are the say the rest of wants to take over all of you create that has never been the, the, the idea. if anything, the 1st move is a key was to do the exact same thing that the americans did announce the cool governments. and basically put somebody as a chart with a little bit more common sense of the people that are running the show at the time . for russian to take over, you cream again, and that's not a strategic value to reference goals of all the to the have they are holding the lance, the russian speakers with their they lost their rights to speak their language, ross butler rice, to teach their their kids russian,

what the rights to how they're signs up in russian. i mean, these are, these are things that we see happen around the world when you are either ethnic cleansing or you're pushing people out of an area. so what russia did was defending gives people of people that could identify themselves as russian does rush. i have an a, a, basically some sort of idea of going to the very end of your credit of inquiry about missiles pointing out at your russian missiles. don't have to go up to the border of the youtube to hit their targets. just like western misses. don't have to go up to the board or russia, but for some reason, they thought it would be a good idea to expand the needle, you credit, which is the biggest level of land next to russia all the way up to the border. and we all know, i think we all know that we're sitting here and the people that are watching this. we know how this started. we know that there were negotiations on the table that this never had to happen. and they all came from the west. the us and friends and in the have, you know, people have been talking more forever honest with the you. when i see all of this is the 1996 months. that's the bottom line. we have special interest groups,

the united states. and beyond that, we're making a lot of cash for this. and at the same time, a lot of people are dying and they don't have to send americans. and when they can use, you could use as content. bonner and it will support civilians are going through this are absolutely no reason this can't stop. well, alex, so they can say to you before i say with you before we go to the break here, what happens? a french troops start dying. what is background going to do then? what they say that the french mercenaries of what i well the power and leave him, they say is already there. they say the forwarding legions already there. the form is ever again, j. c. up to the canadian aspects of horses or wherever they are in 2014 and i'm sure they're, they're there to, to some degree right now just like probably alrighty. i'm still going to have to jump in here. we're going to go to a hard break, and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on you can stay with our team the

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welcome back to prospect. were all things considered? i'm peter roosevelt. your mind you were discussing, you create the okay, let's go back to alfred in geneva, which is for every action there is an equal reaction in the reaction build this loose rhetoric that we have heard or particularly over the last few new cycles or rushes, decided to a start exercise is a, a new killer drills for the gum cooper as a precaution because of the very provocative language coming out of western capital's irresponsible language. so i would say, i think we would all agree, but say there is a reaction and this is an escalation. don't western leaders understand that this is a reaction to their loose rhetoric? alfred. ah, no, i do not want to understand. i mean, they live in their power level world, their power and reality,

and the public. the masses are subject to re lend class brain washer. i mean, and it's not only new york times washington post, and then frank, well down defined it's, i don't even hear in switzerland. you re nonsense in the know i have to over to the title and organizations like mine. i'm in the dean, ava international peace research institute, the get rate, we have put out a blueprint for peace and ukraine. we have sent it to the all say to a pinhole in burn. and of course, you know that we in switzerland i was was, was that and we are going to have uh in may and do this. um, so called peace conference. i said, brother, getting stuck on lakewood south. now they are going to be a lot of blueprints for piece. the 10 point plan off. uh,

sure landscape is delusional. absolutely. uh, disconnected, uh, from reality. but, uh, the truck point point uh, plan of the chinese is good. the 10 point blind, all the africans is good. uh, the international progress organization has put off a very good plan. also, both frances had put out a plan. so there are ideas out there. and my hope is that if enough states participate, obviously russia is not going to participate. that's clear. but if uh, say the presence of china and india and south africa and brazil and mexico, etc might lead the conference to this car. the 10 point applying of isolated scale as totally unrealistic. i start to look for possibilities of a compromise. well, it is, it's interesting now for the,

you mentioned a member of the countries around the world, the energy individual, the pope, in organizations that have a blueprint to start the process of ending this complex here. i'm going to go to appear menu. all right. now, um, but no western leader does that no western lead, no one in nato. does that. and putting into nelson. right. hang on, perfect, hang on, hang on pollutants, and now you ration, he said russia remains open to dialogue and it's up to the other side to decide how to move forward in a period menu. well, i mean, where is the, the, the piece plan from the biden, people from cameron from sergeant schultz. where is it? they never use that language of, of ending this conflict and maintaining security for all players. they never talked about language. go ahead and brussels. yeah. so unfortunately, are i've seen it in europe and a member states of natal on not through the silver rent anymore as we speak or are

they your i think they this feeling more or while you are g 2 up to your us or why are to be 0 atlantic system and with a run cuz we'd be nate to lunch with an independent voters. and this is like your, the, your pants are competing to be the best artist of washington. and are trying to also, at the same time, to see the vacuum in case of for trump will be elected because they seem to the united states with less um, less it'd be present in europe enough. s. but that's a sick time. very your, the full, the main, your part of the car objectives of, of washington. and it's likely we want to find a nice in to be sure, or is a monique of washington in europe and to, to, to found they are own leadership weaving or vis. systemic or the west on the

dominus, we've out to try to find any, your end of this conflict because we're menu. well i, i don't want to, i don't want to be too insulting here, but is there any leadership in europe at all? i mean, you know, you see this from a crown. he is, he's what he's channeling his entered the gall. he can't find it. um, cameron is no churchill. i mean, where is leadership in europe? i mean, they're all replaced. well, you could take the prime minister from finland and put them in italy. it wouldn't, no one would notice. go ahead go. exactly. it'd be closer to the class. easier. afraid? very, your low quality to be frank. those seems the departure of the voting for us on more more. you've been seeing prison on the front small more lines on the i would

say, or under sex on the water, we vote to the independent voice and or image even more. oh, sure doesn't the experience of the read crises of low shock. she and i was there last president with experience in war and are they use it? they don't understand this new merchant put on war because they come from in the ideal g. carter butler, a francis should do it takes the lead, vis europe and the project. but the v e. u is dependent on a tool and west of the maintenance under the can be done on the stand up to positions them serve in this new emergency. put our work, emoji. we're actually due is losing power on the left side, only. uh, and hardwood cvt quote. we take the speaking of the aggressive out of the weight, we have the polish official them wanting to host the american nucular missiles on

their soil. i mean, what country in the world is we don't we want, we want to be a target for in a new killer war i, i just, i can't understand that whatsoever. why would you want to do that? unless you want to just curry favor, you want to, you want it, you're giving a nod to washington. you. where are you? where are your guys in europe to get differential get the germans. poland will stand with the, i mean, this is insanity red. and the russians are not going to react to it, really go ahead and why don't we need to talk? suppose people, instead of the post politicians, which are almost obviously bought. i don't think the if he talked to everybody that's the lowest 80 we're here to hear of a big book. oh, you're very different story about their feelings to what's happening in ukraine. they're, they're still in some sanity in the he, you added your. but if you look at the end of the line, they're looking at the hungary, if you're looking to increase and you listen to some of their politicians. these are people that have seen it, especially the creations i get outside of the utah. the serve use, you know, they, there's this whole. ready mythology, that serbia somehow attached to, to rush to like to buy them. delafield court it's,

it's not there. there's people that are pro and anti rush and serbia as well as increases. but these are countries that see war, they know what it's about, that they're politicians that are now leading. ready stations know exactly what happens and they know that it's, it's something to be avoided. go little bit north the hungary, then you just got a politician there, a man running the show that seems out a lot more common sense that when you start from the west. well, alford, it seems to me with all this loose and dangerous rhetoric coming out of western capital's out of natal land here, their primary objective is to keep it going, in lieu of doing something else. they don't know what to do. so what, what's the option? keep it going until the last ukrainian is gone. alfred as well as going to be back when the last 2 grading and is gone. because then what do you do at that particular point? i mean, the sooner or later you have to accept that this failed the same as the us incursions in vietnam failed. same as it was incursion in afghanistan,

failed the yours, does it very easily, just turns the page. nothing ever happened. we forget it. we leave a mess behind, but the europeans, they are in a very difficult position. there are intelligent people like to meet the people who have uh said, very intelligent things you have in german, a gas thoughtful, ensuring blog, and several old are full of patients. but they're not in power. there is a total disconnect between the elite, between our so called democratically elected leaders, and the people as the masses of the people in spain or friends, or nearly they don't want war. nobody wants more. but their leaders are making money, their leaders are probably back in the service of washington or wait one day, historians will tell us. or if your whistle blowers that can explain that to us

today would be useful. but uh, we are just postponing uh, the moment of proofs. and i'm very concerned about miscalculations at that time when ukraine has really been defeated. what they're yeah. well, it's interesting, terry manual i, i, i've often said on this program. you know, we, you, you might, you often hear the phrase, future historians will explain to us how we got here, but i don't think we really need his story in the future. we're going to need psychologists. what was wrong with these decision makers? why did they make the decisions the way they did? they're making decisions against their own invested interest, their own people's interest. and there was security because at the end of the day, for the russians, this is all about security and know your opinion leader is talking about security. it's amazing to me. go ahead, parent manuel. yes, it's we remember. let's remember, always fame was book,

sleep woke up from christopher crock. call we arrive. oh, the 1st world war is tots, each. and do each countries a different interest to be before each will be a little kind of war on venue. we came to with 1st of all, because we were miscalculations or a lot of prop park on the from all sides. they were lying in the newspapers to what people are. that's no, actually the people are, they want to find the right information. we are to not keep sites on internet, yukon, and do mobile, or people or folks up or e french very read. the more i tell not cheap p textbooks, whichever tools do what people are. and that's why it restrictions she's going to be already. it'd be good the surprise or, and also many military expos actually would be lying on tv, on the rich situation because they've been paid to say that,

that they don't know what to do. they don't know what to say anymore because you what research is not happening and are very, very find only gra cvt on a well. all right? and we're going to end up selling or we're going to end the program on the same. you know that we started it, this is all strategic confusion and we're all going to pay dearly for the gentleman . that's all the time we have a one, a think my guessing needs brussels and engineers. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz. see you next time. and remember across the rules, the the world's largest democracy votes, the rest of the planet watches in an emerging, multi polar world. indeed, as voice matters, but who will be the power behind watches, almost 1000000000 people decide and billions more, react the

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