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the the hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered. i am peter lavelle, french president emmanuel. the crown says he's advocating strategic ambiguity when

it comes to ukraine. this includes funding western military personnel to fight for kids. this is not strategic ambiguity, but rather strategic confusion. the cross talking ukraine, i'm joined by my guess over desires in geneva. he is an author and former un independent expert on an international order in brussels. we turn to appear emmanuel, tom. he is a lecture at leon university and in nice we crossed to alex because he is a veteran reporter and foreign affairs analyst, or a gentleman comstock rose in effect. that means you can jump any time you want and i always appreciate it. i would somebody go to you 1st, the nice because you're in france, so nice. so i started out with the french president here. it says he's advocating a form of strategic ambiguity. and then he says under the conditions in which he will send troops, his troops, de po, troops, somebody's troops,

i don't know of. and those conditions are the kids lines break or they a request is made, prized zalinski. so it, i don't see that is m b a and beauty. i find it confusing and certainly very dangerous. go ahead, alex, find the beauty, right. it's one of 2 things. either you don't know what you're talking about. really funny because you see like it's, it's, it's that simple going all along the lines. you can say he's gonna send troops and if line breaks, or if you create, makes a request. well, i think you create would have already made that requested that i had a chance to make a request. these me for your time, the sky ideas. and i felt like little bullying here. he's, he's pushing out all these ideas to, to need while made it was really not been bathroom on it. you talk any st politician. nobody wants to go until you create official. now the other side of that corner is we know that since 2014 and couldn't use the americans, the french, the british, everybody stayed on the ground in ukraine officially. so what does this make of

what differences are stable, big, big difference actually, when you're looking at the bit with maddox, your face, when you say you're basically on the ground. well, that takes things up a level and that's what people are sick and tired. we need to stop this type of rhetoric. we should be pulling back. we know what the situation is on the ground. wines have been broken time and time again because you created a body off, their backing off. their mind is being broken very quickly and solidly in the past few months. so why would background say this posture? i mean, you have germany, which is the economic engine of europe. and then you have france, which is the most hardcore military, let's say the troops or existence of the military gear in europe. they, they, armstrong, you know, that about france. but that does not mean that you shouldn't be rattling that sort as much as i get rambling it. i hope that the president, she told him a thing or 2 about how to actually run these days. because i used to sometimes have the adults in the room and we know went back from that with him. we all know who looked like the adult in the room. so let's go back, let's stop playing these uh,

you know, the slow your games with one another. let's get some solution. yeah, i agree. i offered, you know, the but if you look at the, the, the predicate of the crown statements and he's got his all over the place. he actually was very conciliatory in the beginning of all of this. now he just wants to be the hawk in nato. but you know, the, the, the way, the conditions that he said they know if the lines break and the silence he makes the call. doesn't that tell you that the ukraine is losing and maybe they should try a different strategy. alfred as well, obviously a credit is losing and they know what they're putting them selves on under pressure. and this makes me think of another french napoleon i fully understood who did not stop provoking the impressions and his arrogance. uh, last time. eventually, just to say,

face to declare war on prussia, which he lost in 6 months now. um we don't ones that we have no clear states that can destroy not only themselves but the rest of humanity. so you need to break that gridlock, you would need to break the pretest. you need to accept the fact that the whether we would like it or not. we live on only one land and we cannot afford to continue with escalation. but it's not only mat crohn who's mad it is joe biden. and anthony blanket and all of phillips and his board minister and recei. uh, so like this for minutes or um, uh, david camera on there are oh, using very belligerent rhetoric. well, i mean,

okay, now the other 2 brought up a camera on i'll go to appear menu. well, i mean, he very, um, uh, loosely said, you know, that, you, you, craig can use whatever british weapons they want and wherever they want, even against rush i brush are proper. and then the, the, the, the response to that is that the russians are saying, well, they will respond to any use of weapons that use against rush are used by the ukrainians. if it's use in ukraine or even beyond ukraine. now that is getting serious business here. go ahead peer emanuel. yes, a picture looks like on the cheese of, for our western states and the read front. so sort of trying to take the lead, know of the and not cheap for underlying got or you create a new will be the winnings along. russia should lose football. and this is not

operating on the grounds. so regarding the public opinion or the relies, there being a top the music interpreting risk of crises from the beginning keeper. notice they understand more, more about or, or if it's not cheap, less fate. and the image in my corner, like over wisdom the just been don't know what to do more to, to steal up your us credit. or andrew, are the wave of filed is to increase or the, your okesha not chief like crew coaching troops of the wrong. the beating the size or hitching your territory of russia or vote from the french, fun of you, your good or so these are in town or the debates in france we'd be a mixed and set you up and part of an approaching wherever the particular bought to be money very cool is very,

is gonna lose the bought her because or how somebody on the bonus ronada these main or position be so we still bought, they're not on buying, looking uh is no but dollar dollars votes expected from the bought to you've made money very much. okay. so the money in my car would like to reinforce these narrative of being very strongly international say, don't hear me anyway. let me ask the question. i do young uh french soldiers want to go fight in ukraine. apparently they're already there. so i'm a, i mean i, it would be the, the, the general staff of france will allow them across to make that decision. i mean, or even the people make a decision here that the same, this, the stikes, the mistakes are so high for someone pastoring. yes. that's right of each denture was because or it looks like your view, this narrative is increasing and the rising mistakes on india and we don't know because to look pretty boiler or immigrating back home might to be your feel

obliged to do something to do to us and really troops of you shortly. we don't know, but are many general are seen for us experts, stacy, issues, she's are, you will be a disaster because france has nothing to come up with each with strategic. i'm big . you cheat your need, the you're sure a military company beatitude behind and for us as is not ready for instance that you will. this is why it is so denture was renewal, but to be honest with you, some instruct jobs on the grounds and of it tried to hide this fact. and the question is, would it become office charge with troops on the grounds? and the, even though we've been minimum reverse of troops or each would be a disaster, and most of french peeper does that really bucks if you made for the to card properties of position does that we'd be but, but it would be narrow tv student going on a think on to the end of for your pen it excellence may, may be, well, i mean,

you know, it's like it's good. let me go to alex back and needs it. it was pretty pathetic if you're doing this kind of calculation based on europe and elections. that the stakes are much higher then these elections coming up here. you know, the problem, alex here is a mac chrome keeps saying russia we should not be allowed to win. is that a strategy? and what about ukraine? go ahead. no. i mean, that's a big question. and i, what are the say the rest of the wants to take over all of you create that has never been the, the, the idea. if anything, the 1st move into a key was to do the exact same thing that the americans did announce the cool government. and basically put somebody out the charts with a little bit more common sense of the people that are running the show at the time . for russia to take over you pretty again, that that's not at any strategic value to reference goals. although to the parent, they're holding the land and the russian speakers with their loss, their rights to speak, their language ross bought their rights to teach their and their kids russian. the was the rights to how they're signed up in russian. i mean, these are, these are things that we see you have been around the world when you are either

ethnic cleansing or you're pushing people out of an area. so or what roger did was defending is people of people that could identify themselves as russian does rush. i have an a, a, basically some sort of idea of going to the very end of your credit of inquiry about missiles pointing out at your russian missiles. don't have to go up to the border of the youtube to hit their targets. just like western missiles. don't have to go up to the board or russia, but for some reason, they thought it would be a good idea to expand the needle you created, which is the biggest level of land next to russia all the way up to the border. and we all know, i think we all know, but we're sitting here in a people that are watching this. we know how this started. we know that there were negotiations on the table that this never had to happen. and they all came from the west u. s. brands and in the head of your people, i've been talking more forever honest with the you out of see all of this is the 1990 this month. that's the bottom line. we have special interest groups in the united states. and beyond that, we're making a lot of cash with this. and at the same time,

a lot of people are dying and they don't have to send americans and when they can use you credit use as comp 10 potter and those ports facilities are going through. this are absolutely no reason this can't stop. well, alex, so they can say to you, before i say with you before we go to the break here, what happens if french troops start dying? what is background going to do then? well, they say that the red pression mercenaries of what, well the power in leaf, and they say is already there. they say the forwarding legions already there of before images ever and young j. c. up to the canadian aspects of horses or wherever they are in 2014 and i'm sure they're, they're there to some degree right now just like probably alrighty. i'm still going to have to jump in here. we're going to go to a hard break and after that hard break will continue our discussion as you can stay with archie, the look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a

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is it something deeper, more complex might be present. let's stop without collision. let's go out of the welcome back to the prospect where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . true mind you were discussing. you create the okay, let's go back to l for the in geneva, which is just for every action there is an equal reaction in the reaction build this loose rhetoric that we have heard of, particularly over the last few new cycles or rush has decided to start the exercise is a, a new killer drills for them to put as a precaution because of the very provocative language coming out of western capital's irresponsible language. i would say, i think we would all agree,

but say there is a reaction and this is an escalation. don't western leaders understand that this is a reaction to their loose rhetoric? alfred. i know they do not want to understand. i mean, they live in their power level world are parallel reality and the public, the masses are subject to re lend class brain washing. i mean, and it's not only new york times washington post, and then frank, well down defined it's, i don't even hear it. switzerland. you re nonsense in there? no, i have to over to the title and organizations like mine. i'm in the dba. international piece research institute, the get rate, we have pulled out a blueprint for peace and ukraine. we have sent it to the all ca for the whole in burn. and of course, you know that we in switzerland i was, was with citizen, we are going to have uh, in may and do this. um,

so called peace conference of the builder and stuck on lake road south. now they are going to be a lot of blueprints for piece. the 10 point plan of uh, sure landscape is delusional. absolutely. uh, disconnected, uh, from reality. but the truck point point uh, plan of the chinese is good. the 10 point blind, all the africans is good. uh, the international progress organization has put off that very good plan also told francis had put out a plan. so uh, there are ideas out there. and my hope is that if enough states participate, obviously russia is not going to participate. that's clear. but uh, if uh say the presence of china and india and south africa and brazil and mexico

etc might lead the conference to this car. the 10 point applying of isolated scale, it's totally unrealistic. i start to look for possibilities of a compromise. well, it is, it's interesting now for that, you mentioned a number of the countries around the world, the energy individual, the pope, in organizations that have a blueprint to start the process of ending this complex here. i'm going to go to appear menu. all right. now, um, but no western leader does that no western lead, no one in nato. does that and put in. so now direct tag i add on permanent said, hey, hang on, hang on, i'm putting. so now you ration, he said russia remains open to dialogue and it's up to the other side to decide how to move forward appearing menu. well, i mean, where is the, the, the piece plan from the biden, people from cameron from sergeant schultz. where is it? they never use that language of, of ending this conflict and maintaining security for all players. they never talk

about language. go ahead in brussels. yeah. so unfortunately for extinction, european member states of natal are not through the silver ring anymore. and resp or are they your i think they use this feeling more or while you are g 2 up to your us. um or why are to be 0 attempting system and with a run? can we'd be nate to lunch with any independent voters? and this is like your, the, your pants are competing to be the best artist of washington. and are trying to also at the same time, a true sheet or of, of back to you in case of for trunk will be elected because they seem to the united states really less um, less it'd be present in europe enough. s. but that's a sick time, very your, the photo, the main, your part of the car objectives of,

of washington. and it's likely they want to find a nice and to be sure. or the hey, monique, of washington in europe, and to, to found val owned leadership weaving, or vis, systemic or the west on the dominus, we've out to try to find any, your end of this conflict. be glad to hear menu. well, i, i don't want to, i don't want to be too insulting here, but is there any leadership in europe at all? i mean, you know, you see this background. he is, he's what he's channeling his entered the gall, he can't find it. um, cameron is no churchill, i mean, where is leadership in europe? i mean, they're all replaced. well, you could take the prime minister from finland and put them in italy. it wouldn't, no one would notice. go ahead go. exactly. so the closer, the better to kind of cross easier of

a very your low quality to be frank. those seems the departure of the board. and for us on more more you've been seeing president on the front small more lines on the uh, i would say, or under sex on the water, we go to bed heavy or independent voice and or it might even more cool or sure does in the in the experience of the read crises of low instruction on whether last president with experience in war and or they use it, they don't understand this new merchant put on war because they come from in the ideal g. carter butler upfront it should do it takes the lead was your project, but you is dependent on a tool and west of the maintenance and the, the cabinet done on the stand up to position themselves in this new emergency put out well emerging, we're actually due is losing power on the left side only. uh and hardwood

cvt close the is making a b i the rest of our the wait, we have the polish official them wanting to host the american nucular missiles on their soil. i mean, what country in the world is we don't we want, we want to be a target for in a new killer war i, i just, i can't understand that whatsoever. why would you want to do that? unless you want to just curry favor, you want it, you want it, you're giving a nod to washington. you. where are you? where are your guys in europe? the get the french but yet the germans. poland will stand with you. i mean, this is insanity red and the russians are not going to react to it. really go ahead and why don't we need to talk? suppose people, instead of the post politics is, which are almost obviously bar. i don't think the if you talk to anybody that's close anywhere here, you're of a, they're both. oh, you're very different story about their feelings to what's happening in ukraine. they're, they're still in some sense in the, the, you and in europe. if you look at the end of the line,

they're looking at the hungary, if you're looking into carissa, you listen to some of their politicians. these are people that have seen it, especially the crisis i get outside of the you talking to serve use, you know there's, there's this whole. ready mythology, that serbia somehow attached to, to rush to like it by them don't hold court it's, it's not there. there's people that are pro and anti rush and serbia as well as increases. but these are countries that see war, they know what it's about, that they're politicians that are now leading. those stations know exactly what happens and they know that it's, it's something to be avoided. go a little bit north, the hungary, then you just got a politician there, a man running the show that seems out a lot more common sense that when you start from the west. well, alford, it seems to me, with all this loose endangers rhetoric, coming out of western capital's out of nato land here. their primary objective is to keep it going, in lieu of doing something out. they don't know what to do. so what, what's the option? keep it going until the last ukrainian is gone. alfred,

it was going to be back when the last 2 great and is gone. because what do you do at that particular point? i mean, the sooner or later you have to accept that this failed the same as a us incursions in vietnam, failed. same as that your wasn't. carson in afghanistan failed the your stuff, it very easily. just turns the page. nothing ever happened. we forget it. we leave a mess behind, but the europeans, they are in a very difficult position. there are intelligent people like dominique to the box who have uh said, very intelligent things you have in german. a guy falls on shore and board, and several old are full of patients, but they're not in power. there is a total disconnect between the elite, between our so called democratically elected leaders, and the people as the masses of the people in spain or friends,

or nearly they don't want war. nobody wants more, but their leaders are making money. their leaders are how exec in the service of washington or wait one day, historians will tell us. or if your whistle blowers that can explain that to us today would be useful. but uh, we are just postponing uh, the moment of proofs. and i'm very concerned about miscalculations at that time when ukraine has really been defeated. what they're yeah. well, it's interesting, perry, manual i, i, i've often said on this program. you know, we, you, you might, you often hear the phrase, future historians will explain to us how we got here, but i don't think we really need his story in the future. we're going to need psychologists. what was wrong with these decision makers? why did they make the decisions the way they did? they're making decisions against their own invested interest, their own people's interest. and there was security because at the end of the day,

for the russians, this is all about security and know europe and leader is talking about security. it's amazing to me. go ahead, parent manuel. yes, it's we remember. let's remember, always fame was book the sleep woke up from christopher cock, all we arrive. oh, the 1st world war is tots each and do each countries a different interest to be before it will be a little kind of war on venue. we came to with 1st of all, because we were miscalculations. are a lot of properties on the, from all sides there with lying in the newspapers, to what people are. that's no, actually the people are, they want to find the right information. we are to not keep sides, so need to and that's yukon, and do mobile or people or folks up or e french, very read the more i tell not cheap p textbooks, whichever tools to what people are. and that's why the elections he's going to be

already. it'd be good the surprise or, and also, or many military expos, actually would be lying on tv, on the read situation. because they've been paid to say that, that they don't know what to do. they don't know what to say anymore because it, what they say is not happening and are very, very find only gross cvt on the well large and we're gonna, we're going to end the program on the same road that we started it. this is all strategic confusion and we're all going to pay dearly for gentleman that's all the time we have a want to thank my guessing needs brussels and engineers. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz. see you next time, and remember across the rules, the the

only one main thing is important for not as an internationally speaking, that is of nations because that's are allowed to do anything, all the mazda races, and then you have the mind, the nations, the slaves, americans rock, obama and others have had a concept of american exceptionalism. international law exist as long as it serves the american interest. if it doesn't, it doesn't exist by turning those russians into this dangerous boy, a man that wants to take over the world. that was a culture strategy. so some of the vehicle in your english v i v, i not fi leashed, it's often zip on in tablet block. nato said it's ours. we move east. the reason us, hey jim, it is dangerous. is it the by the sovereignty of the countries, the exceptionalism that america uses and its international war planning is one of

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