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on the the so i understand that you sir term is prime minister us to bach yager in 1991 in 1992? yes. can you describe a little bit about law what the implications have been since then? up until now? big changes make changes because in the time you had adjust. uh, turning in that time check with somebody. yeah. uh and,
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and neighboring countries from 40 s socialism to a democratic society. market economy. a free press big changes. so we understand that the developments over the past few days have been a month from on the biggest to us here. what can you personally say about a little back pizza? i know beneficial, but actually coming from that time, he started as a young, socially slowly edition in, in the both post communist party is so lucky a. and to add members, members of sole requirement. and despite the fact that the deals, socialist, iowa schools are about to gratian,
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but to our relations were correct. and this, yes, for some time we are practically in the same political scan, the opposing or the government of somebody. yeah. so coming back to the assassination, it's out to you hasn't seen such a chance on politicians in lives for decades. do you think the risk is going to link test time goes by? i think so. i think so because the the tension is not just the case of slovakia or even seem to view it up the the tension is growing in the lord because the word or security and economic architecture that
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governs dealer today probably is, is changing or is going through the through the to a change, and that to and to dispatch inc. millions of people. and if such a big changes are coming closer and late to even happen or in some countries even matter, maybe happens or bought it to happen or the today. that is, is that leads to me to dramatic events, even like an assassination. so i think it's already so suggested in the a suit as behind the assassination. it sounds a little back. this is life was pausing,
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is spelled asus in general. that includes the refusal, refusing the sale of arms to ukraine or dissembling age to claim. what i want to know is how much is this political stance? the supposition towards these bo, this is how much is it wide spread? or except you mean is that like you? yes. or you just want to split and then terms. yes. if you just 5 d a one elections it is september last year and even in the presidents of the elections in slovakia, one month ago. again, feats us political camp has won. and even in the public opinion balls, this stands of the sort of the government, especially especially regarding the war in ukraine.
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fish has a big majority amongst all its citizens. so yes . and the, the operations against the pizza supported the policy and features government that we just, we just supported and supporting the west. um says, uh, feels itself strong because the support from the west and the on. and on the other hand, it sees that the allow and it has not very big charles, this is the lock. yeah. and that that leads to, to such dramatic attempts just very briefly,
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the beginning of you. and so you said yes it is widespread. you were referring to a robot fix those policies and position towards super incorrect or what, but i think so. okay, what kind of thing? so okay, just want to clarify because over the course of let's say the last few years, a little back to it. so it has time and time again come into power, much like you said, he has the support needed. what i want to know is now this little officials, this includes the president's ups to lock in the sex of the documents group of hatred in the country as a reason for the assassination attempt. i guess the prime minister, if that's the case, why do you think that is the reasons are probably more one of the reasons i see that the so called mainstream media are opposing feats. so because fits us
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policy and features government because they are supported from the west end partly the, the owners of this media are western western companies. and that's, that's creates a situation. is that like, yeah, the majority of this makes the media us are going against the majority of so the of the major, major majority, delta dental opinion of salt lake citizens. yes. about is the lucky i have quite great influence. so go to the other in these internet media that are probably be done the, the cheap they do not need to big money from, from abroad. and the that's why is the to
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a position of mess the media and this the then the ink and the media then? yes that's, that's create um the ition in society. and so do you think this is a problem just for us to lock you, or is this something that affects all of your i think i think it is right. or in the, in the all europe and receipts or at least it's, i see that the 5, these political parties that have to, um, maybe not the majority, but the drawings at often. not even for deutschland, i've day in germany. or in the, or, you know, see a,
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this week about the i the new enough know exact the name the and to in the netherlands. uh so yes. uh no, i don't know. trump, maybe not positive, but to at least the group and political groupings in the us. so that all of this political groupings, uh gallery, inc. but they are practically excluded from the, from the government. yes. in the, in the bottom line they, they come in. but in germany, i have day practically can not be part of the, of the government even know, even this lower government on the,
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on the come to german countries. the same practically is the case of o, c, a and other countries. so that's why the nation not only is so lucky, but in europe is growing and probably english in so time will really grow even more. what do you think it can be done to resolve polarization with a society? can a be to 1st stop net negotiations between uh yes, in, uh, uh, say the over so like, you know, demo, so like, yeah. or is that like, yeah, but, but a new bro to europe, especially about the war a new crane, the negotiation about the finding bees in ukraine.
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because because the water in ukraine is and to cut the door off of political situation in, in europe as a whole, and probably even even broad. uh, so uh, in ukraine. it should be stopped it. so correct me if i'm wrong, rebecca, it's so that us in the past said, is government or his policies are trying to build and to establish an independence and solve it for them policy independent from the union independent from nature. the question here is, if this is a policy, this is what the government says. yes, it's position. is that why does the us and media referred to for real bad faith? so as pro russian,
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why do you think who was the media uses that they this classification of robot feet . so as pro ration is of the point, or is it going for for the, then they're all better feet. so in the realities might say fondly. but the, it could be correct. this is this classification overall, but fetal, eh, because, because of what we see in the, in the us do, in europe, in union, it is a, it this up or i think national, somebody, any d on a, of, of member sites. and the member states will have less and less influence on, on the vital issues for future up in policy. and
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that's why all of but additions or countries member countries that can keep this nationally. so, but any d live feed, so like victor autobahn in hungary, it's even in the country. so at least not in government, but in public space. they are, they are against that practically against the the, me, uh the main line of the process. and the does that so i guess very old sanctions from brussels against such countries like a guys supported up to that the up to now or against the hunger hungry
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or at least mention mentioned and relate to very soon probably even the newest and the yes and and in this situation, russia is supporting the, the, control, the slogans, the slogans of national and some of the energy us. and then that's why that's why the feed so could have been described as broad, simple edition as and a name the the case of the more in ukraine. yes, you see. so, and these government has clearly openly said that the so like how would know weapons deliver to ukraine?
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that is the new case would be, should be finished or stopped by negotiations noted by, by web us. and that's also yes, in, in the ukraine. presidents are lansky as a bond, abundant even the negotiations whose alaska so it's clear a contradiction between in this case between the feats of the stands and, and we're interested in a sense. you mentioned victor, oregon hungry. and you also mentioned is the position of process takes against the member states. the question i want to ask you is, when we take into consideration still not the case study. i think what about gets those policies for an independent policy? yes. hungry. pretty much the same big or perhaps, but yes,
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and quite recently survey has been entity is it's under which was visited by she's in pain, china as presidents, even the friends french president to mind them according to an extent is for to west china is looking for some sort of alternative partners trade partners, maybe the question i want to ask is, is your ups identity in a crisis and well that is happening. remember, states like still walk the hungry candidates states likes to be? are they looking to spend one sense of the word become a part of the gate to get a pen block but also hold onto his own identity? would you say that is if there is any way of starting from the the that the concluding find of all the other question of yes, it can be the bought a new to meet a change of the european union is the
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main political line the and it may be because when the, when we joined europe in union and so i can join the raw, the relate in 2004. but in the video stime, you're up in union and even even to describe dates so that the national identity of member countries will be kept. and uh, now that has changed, that has changed. so the europe in union shoot, shoot of the, the change it's it's, it's going to take a line in that way that the,
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quote the quote to include both vs cooperation inside of europe and union and inside of europe and national ident identity of the member member countries and then the to starting of or your question to start out of your question. yes. countries like, uh i've got a potential that may be is said to be uh, uh, if uh if uh, uh, either party to go. uh hm. oh, is this the ends of the of situation insane in germany or, or you know, us? yeah, we would we changed then this country's oh to oh, of course. and probably that they would like to stay in inside of europe and union,
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but they would have a strong influence on changing all the whole, the whole of the political line of europe in union, in, in direction. as i have said previously, going back to some of the internal discussions. how do you expect the assassination attempt to influence to slovakia, internal policies or politics? we'll see, it is still shortly after. this is very important or to be if the it is uh, uh, gone through the positions of governmental bar. okay. and oh, positional camp. who to go on as a where uh up to now or the they they wouldn't be modified the leader of the
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opposition instead of kill pollution or the body in slovakia. missed the she mich guy published one week ago in the, in the paper in slovakia that he does not the does not the value 8 the voters of a government's bodies? yes or is that democracy? is the democracy 1111 a party blakely says that he does know to evaluate the citizens of so i'm lucky, a voting for, for another box that, that shouldn't be changed. and that wouldn't be changed or that would be easier changed if the if the
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brussels officer officer, brussels may be on the who do not so strongly support even the present the position of bodies in slovakia. so look, is one of the few countries in europe that supports a peaceful resolution and ukraine which it is. it would be peaceful. yes. yes, yes, please. yes, solution. do you expect and more countries within the european block to follow this stance in the future? do you think the was side with philadelphia for example? i think so. i think so. but the question these at the other countries, or the say pro peace book in europe should be stronger very quickly. because because if
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a russian army reach these big bonds are a few grain then to reach a peaceful solution who it would be more difficult and more difficult and never in the, in the history receive even. i mean, the other countries, other not only is the lucky uh that, uh, if some army re, she's reached some line then then to the door, we leave the line. we though, do i have on that? so i, it's russian army read. she's fine to say nip at a very the in the you came a and then the okay. and or does it have a very, very difficult position if russia reaches certain milestones goal?
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yeah. so as we say, this would put question in my much stable, stronger position as a bit if there is ever going to be a negotiating table. what do you think you would do in that scenario? the west, especially united states, are doing very, very stupid policy. because because they pressed the russia in china and the other countries are together. and yes, i remember. and the henry kissinger avery's that, that call me in the sy in the left call me in the soviet union. and the that i had with the do as a had a very much is the suddenly mary content and now the and now the united states doing just opal's i policy and that, that's why your question,
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if or the police position of rush, i wouldn't be it would be not only that because the position of russia, because the site is now practically supported by china and by either on a more or less by, in the more or less by african countries. so on the west, the challenge for the west then would be not only russia, but to the wart majority, it's not necessarily a matter of, for example, in the united states versus russian or the european block versus the east. so would it be safer to say that this is as an alternative to the collective lest yes, bend not the only alternative to the collective worst,
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but the pressure for changing the global architecture, global security architecture. because the collective west. yes. the on the big with the united states would to not to be the only the only bowl of the, of the word. and to yes, at least the then that would exist that at least 3 bowls or door united states china. russia was the exist practically owner already now. but then dispose, we'd be, we'd be more important and practically, no, no, even the, even
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a man made deal to an important issue quote and not to be solved without, without this and this repulse and the then then the so called a collective west quote, not to dictate its condition conditions through the work. many experts within the fields, politicians, academics, they suggest the course of the best in the united states had been essentially resulting in that diminishing foreign policy. we see this are specifically speaking . i think the middle east is a good case study is how to withdraw from most of its positions. it's less that's foot holes in many parts of asia. i meant at least for good. and i think it's also losing it's for the whole thing. europe as well, many suggest the united states has influence over the years has become tiring,
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this sense. and this is why they believe that the year can be, need is correctly looking for alternative methods of somebody. that's what we're international relations relations with other states. very simply put the question i have, this is the fault to inform the policy of the us influencing this shift in the global architecture receipt in the united states. the how the so called to deep state is pressing for keeping the present a present architecture off of the international and security international, economic or the maybe even culture or the et cetera.
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and to that's said, i am afraid that the because how is possible that mc mc american party, i mean, and now the democratic party, the big party is it is not to able to both. i'm of the candidate for the presidential elections, then joe biden. and the, and the whole word is, is seeing this in the bass physical in the ability to produce a kind of injury, is it to be the candidate and then, and then maybe the president of the, the l for the, the, at the make country. so that for me, it's saying that as if in the united states, not the say the elected president
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that is realizing uh, rio power, but to this is the deep state. thank you so much for that sentence that, that was a very pleasant conversation. thank you. the the a when i was wrong. just don't you have to safe house to come to after care and engagement because the trail when so many find themselves will
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depart. we choose to look for the common ground, the the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered on peter lebeau among the casualties as a result of israel's genocidal assault on gods, which includes suspension of international humanitarian law but also free speech across the western world for bursley being pro palestinian and pro peace is condemned is and i submitted
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