what is happening right now is unprecedented. no country in europe has ever band tick tock and government officials have provided no evidence to show the networks linked to the violence. only one argument. young people use this network. the government considered them guilty by definition because of their age. we are facing an extremely serious slipper to sidle drift. now new caledonia is home to 270000 people and it has been kaos in the past week. but unfortunately, that also means that the unrest led to casualties. 6 people are reportedly dead, hundreds are insured for 100 businesses and stores were damaged and over 200 people were also arrested. and as the unrest sources, we have new zealand and australia who are sending out their military planes to essentially evacuated their nationals back home and presidents of for older french overseas territory is also came out, urging the french government to drop the reform. they're arguing here that only

a political response can stop the violence now, so we've had time to squeeze in. we'll have more news of these at the top of the next hour. d, stay with us though. nonsense, and national is up. next. it's go to email hughes and the 36 p p the the, the, [000:00:00;00] the general population that is more people in retirements and working. they're not, they're not important any, they're not bringing their, there's not a phobia. no,

nobody coming else coming in. they've got real problems. i'm not looking for a fight with china. i'm looking for competition. but for a competition, there are no 2 countries who are more economically intertwined than the united states and the people's republic of china. but in this relationship, the more money involved does not make for closer allies. i'm sky now hughes, and on this edition of 360 view, we're going to ask is a china friend or foe to the west? let's get started. the from technology to spine to involvement and world wars relations between the united states and china. our tense, i best know this all started when the chinese aspire bloom floated over the

entirety of the us. the lying unimportant bilateral meeting between china and us back in february of 2023 now kind of claimed it was a weather balloon and called the decision to shoot down the blue, unacceptable and irresponsible. while us intelligence says the unmanned vessel was designed to collect military data, not why the reports now this from the secretary of state antony blinking to postpone a diplomatic visit to beijing from february to june, to try and quote, attentions, and present jabard and has also signed a bill for seeing the sale of chinese social media company to talk in april. now, all of this comes as a biden is implementing tariffs and sanctions against china to slow their access to, to technology. so just to my conductors, and during blinking last meeting on beijing, chinese versus changing things said washington needs to look at china's development in

a positive light. all in order for bilateral relations to improve. john is willing to see a confident and open us with prosperity and development. it is hope that the us can also look at chinese development positively. only when this fundamental issue is resolved, what the china us relations be truly stabilized. but is this just more theatre or tensions between the 2 world powers at a breaking point, which will have devastating effects on the rest of the world? well, let us discuss with our panel k, j now author and east asia, expert line, all of a line on media and tim iverson, host the iris, and show thank you so much for joining me. all 3 of you. thank you. so kim, i'm actually going to start with you because it is no secret that republicans and democrats and office often speak of china as the number one threat globally. yet only a few pieces of life legislation have actually been passed withdrawal hard lines

between the 2 countries. so what is the truth regarding the current relationship between washington dc and beijing? well, the truth is that the business class will not really truly allow the political class to do the things that the political class says that they want to do. the political class does a lot of posturing against china. they want to act like they want to act like china is the big bad bully that they have to go after they continue to uh, they're just fostering a lot. but the, the bottom line is we do too much trade with china. we have too much, we have too much riding on the, on china's economy. we have too much of business in china. the business class won't actually allow anything to happen, which is fundamentally a good thing. we should not be creating another cold war or, or creating another adversary if we want to compete. we've got to learn to compete by actually producing better goods by actually getting, making ourselves more self sufficient rather than relying on china and their

imports. that is what we need to be doing, rather than constantly demonizing and trying to create a cold war. it's just not gonna work. okay. days is that how you see it and i have to ask, what is the united states? the biggest fear in regard to china, the us is a phrase that china is a rising competitive uh they refer to it as a revision. our, which is another way of saying that it is an official enemy, but the us at least 198280 since 1992 has been the considering itself, the global hatred mom. and because of that it does not brook any challenges. a char, i know, originally when the us, the relations of china. no more disposed to become another person. all right? so, so that's why i think, why know this on that side, because that's the thing because it looks like, you know, a lot of the us secretary of state the,

he said this regarding china and its relationship with russia. so enabling russia to rebuild the defense industrial base that countries throughout europe are deeply concerned, will be turned against them after ukraine has done. okay. align also is the secretary of state accurate, or is he more more likely gas fighting the citizens into villain isaac china, kind of along with russia. they don't like everybody except israel, which is what we're doing right now. this is in co here. we have to start from the beginning, listen, you, you, you use the word one time a particular word you use. somebody said, is this china an enemy of ours? and then we're not enemies, this good versus evil, that manny can just this. who is the good guy in the bad guys? this is ridiculous. this is a superpower. so in 1972,

we more we did. when we were smart and we were adults. we actually, but we, we, we had the show and china, and actually we embrace china and basically pull them away from show, in those days of this, i'm glad you did everything today broke in this weird kind of not, not a head germanic world or skid show frantic and our view, our region, just look at what's happening right now. what is real? look at how the way we handle our show, the sanctions look at what, how nato has absolutely destroyed us. well, we are good for frantic. i'm sorry to say this. we need a new integration and start over from scratch him. i got to ask you the u. s. has taken, do you think that this administration will take any responsibility for china is growing power in the world, both financially and diplomatically, because the other countries are rebelling from the west actions as well. i, you know, i don't think that the administration is going to take responsibility and i also don't think they should. i don't think anybody should have to take responsibility

for china is rising power except for china and china has been doing what china needs to do in order to make china strong in order to make china thrive. and i, i don't think there's any stopping it. i think with 1400000000 people, you're not going to stop the rise of china, especially at the economic rate that they're growing. so i think the only thing you know, rather than blaming administrations for allowing china to arise and the china is going to rise, what we can do is blame the administrations for not properly computed. and rather than actually focus on competition, they're focusing on trying to hinder trying to stop china, creating an enemy out of china, causing the rest of the world to kind of look at us with shock of well, what do we, what do we trying to accomplish here? when the rest of the world wants to turn towards china and do business with their 1400000000 people. so why don't think any administration should take blame? i, i for rising a rising china, but they should be, they should be taking blame for not competing properly. wine or what's her thoughts? okay, the us, of course, you wish the, by the administration. first of all,

china is not the cancer fine. it is a burgeoning brazilian leave of a that excited country that once the same thing for is that we want trying is not part of their planet. and you are so question. we remember when we send nancy below to the taiwan, we're going like this to china, and then we sit back and we wonder, she wonder what's going on. and by the way, much too much is being played about this bullet that flew over this has been going on for an hour. we need the dogs to sit down to understand that china once what we want, who we want to run the world. we're blaming, try for doing exactly what we want. and we act like, like there for me on a planet and let me explain something big, please do not, couldn't russia? well, china, this is i, the ology versus right much isn't versus economic realism. we need somebody far enough, maybe dare i say, like a mere shame or, or somebody to actually understand the way human beings work. re, i'll pull

a d and that is not aj fox news versus cnn left and right man, a key or dribble is called survival to i liked the thing. you're on written. maybe we got everything fixed on our we do cause k j in early may present your bite and long, long time allied japan with russia and china. take elizabeth. well, i spend a lot of time with present abe's vice president. and guess what is going all way i put on at all, but i cannot reach the talking about, you know, you would find that is an entire move because they are just on a full rate because they know i want to invite other people from outside the country to can move and make up the workforce. they have fewer workers, then they have a need for work. okay, so describing the nation as xena phobic. well, that's true. widespread outrage, especially since you were speaking out of campaign fundraiser, which was marketing asian american heritage month now by didn't did make similar remarks when chinese present shooting pain came to visit san francisco november

watch this in the sense that the guy in front of the country okay, well i try to get a secretary of state entity blinking appears to shake his head and went on present job. i didn't said he still believe chinese president changing thing. the dictator . that's incredible. now the chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman my name said quote, the statement is extremely wrong and irresponsible political manipulation. so i've got extra k j is biting largely responsible for these deteriorating relations or no, not at all. you know, it's been a long time coming. you can track it back to the obama administration, which in 2011 declared the pivot to asia, which was essentially the beginning of the plan to encircle and contain china. even

that plan was hatched up probably around 2008 to sign. we noticed because you started building up adoption of war called se baffled in 2009. it was revealed a few years later. so these plans of the building for a very, very long time. i think you played it squarely on the shoulders of a big obama and here hillary clinton and even before that, i think you really have to point to the neo cons that essentially put forth a deduction that said they would not tolerate any challenges to the us brutal hegemony that no country was allowed to challenge the state gemini, and that they would use any method uh any to any strategies to prevent that from happening? well, i want to thank you to our panel. great discussion. please stick around because hired to the global pandemic present trumpet, been working with china on a trade deal, which was supposed to level the playing field for goods and both countries. now after the break, we're going to look at the economic relationship between the bottom ministration

and china, which ministration to china work better with the, the winds, largest democracy votes the rest of the planet watches in an emerging, multi polar world. india's voice matters. but who will be the power behind watches, almost 1000000000 people decide and billions more, react the money to do that. you attempted to come by and visit exit a month. i thought she sat there for the show event. it will be a job to las, any cause of

a dish. international stuff is defensive to supplement is such a button not to mention in a person wants to do an easy task like that. if i said the media, i love to focus on the 2 reasons. can you say with the city video camera in the service and they're going to be presented as for them? i didn't want to work it on stimulus. the industry is little less money before most of the left. so should william farmer shots might give us. so we have good guy started to decisions in my lab and what was that man was the ones that ridiculous problems i put in the midst of them one today and but you know, so that's what it is that you want to set. i'm sure those are pretty sharp generals on patient data for she's clear moves, i'm best do what i mean. there's a, there's a problem. i shot the,

the goods and services trade with china totaled an estimated $758400000000.00 in 2022 through the us goods and services trade deficit with china. think 367000000000 and that same year there. well, present job, i didn't spend most of his time on the 2020 campaign trail. criticize a former president. donald trump's terrified china biden has not only match them, but it's no exceeding trump era. here, you know, the bank ministration has announced it will raise tariffs on certain chinese steel and aluminum products from 7.25 percent to 25 percent this year on semi connectors from 25 percent to 50 percent. and on electric vehicles, 4 times from 25 percent to a 100 percent. all happening next year. now white house press secretary greens,

young pierre, responded to reporters questioning why the president has changed, has to change his mind. and now, believe tariffs work, we have always had concerns on china. unfair trade policies. we've been very clear about that. and the last administration, when they did a trade deal with china, what it did is it failed to increase american american export or boost manufactory . that is that something the president wants to see. well, for president trump responded to the new terrace given by the, by the ministration on his way into a new york court room for his hash money trial. he wants to put a, a big jobs on jad, which is the suggestion that i said wherever you been, sir, ran out of it. yes, they should have done it on top of that because china is eating on lunch right now and they were away. so what i really still a good. okay, so we've got to continue this conversation regarding us as relationship with china,

from an economic perspective, with our guest kj, no author in east asia, expert ed line on from line or media. and kim iverson host of the kim, ever since you, i thank you so much for joining me again. well, i know i'm gonna start with you on this one. what do you think has caused this shift for president joe biden to go after china in the farm of tears, and whose economy is under more pressure, china or the united states? so well, come on and say, well, 1st of all, the question is not, not what does joe, by what has caused the person who tells joe biden to change their mind? and by the way, if you ever needed any example, the absolute incoherence of this administration, looking for a range on peer who basically respond to every question, like she's entering no particle physics, super with 3 questions. it's this kind of a, well, i feel like as long as the notes there look very, very simply that's what you know. it's so easy for us to use just kind of a pedestrian terms, but well,

i know what will respect is strength and consistency. and somebody who knows what, how they're talking about that can be adjusted later. if you didn't even speak english and you look at present from science or versus visual beer, who knows what they're talking about, then they may not be correct. but this is, this is i, i think coming to an end right now. and by the way, remember, one thing if china ever decides to have to really play hardball when it comes to taiwan and, and, and, and computer component can be bought or good night. gracie, it's over, it's our what, what's not over k j is the us media reported on this because they're saying the chinese economy is failing. is that accurate or? no, i don't think so. china is economy grew 5 point one percent this most recent quarter

. that's about 3 times as far as the united states and faster than almost any other country in the u. and so china is not failing. a china is doing very well. it's going from strength to strength. now 5 percent is less than the 789 percent that it was growing previously. but still it, it will grow by nearly a trillion dollars this year. that is to say, it grows about the size, one 3rd or in every 3 years. it grows the size, it expands economy, the size of india every 3 years. so china is no slouch, they're building out that technological, the industrial, this scientific capacity is that going from strength to strength. anybody who thinks that china is going to fail. in fact, this is a kind of collapse to stop trend that hillary clinton and neo cons had, i think they're complete, mistaken well can, why is that? why would they go with that narrative and,

and continue to push the child is economies failing? what good does that suppose to accomplish as well? they can, you know, they're just playing the blame game and trying to, to blame anybody but their own us policies as to why the u. s. economy is not doing as well as it could. they're focused on our foreign policy analysts wars. they focus on everything but making america strong and building america up. so all they have is to point and blame even though it is ridiculous. claim 5 percent g, d p growth for china is enormous. that's more than double what the us as g d p growth rate is going down. oh, they say all but it's, it's, uh, it's shrinking. it's going down to what 4.6 percent is the estimates and then you still at 1.9 percent. so even with china having a declining g d p, it is still more than doubled in united states. it's still an incredible in norm as g d p growth that china is experiencing. and so they're just trying to say, well, china's scrambling china doesn't attack. so china is a subsidizing

a bunch of their industries so that those industries don't have to make a profit. so we have to sanction, we have to add all these extra terrorist onto these. for example, on the ease you know, they're putting the 100 percent tariff from the byte in ministration. meanwhile, you know, by that has not tough. what every single turn. you've got, one of the biggest e v manufacturers in the world here in the united states. and what is biden done to support tesla, so if they're in invites g m, that made what $26.00 eaves, when testing was pumping out $300000.00 eaves. i mean the, it's the failing of the political class that uses everything for politics and then realize it's later. oh crap, we made a mistake. so now we're just gonna have to turn around and blame china. and that's an easy thing to do because line, oh, we do know that we are in election here. so i've got to ask, what is the effect is all of this uh, the november elections actually going to have on the us relationship with china, depending on who wins as well. if, if, if we continue and i don't think we are,

we are going to continue. i believe there's going to be a change in administration, in a $170.00 plus days. but one of the things i hope that we stop doing, or we start with russia, we went from russia full big to sign a folding. i don't want to use words like racism. i, i don't why somebody think that those terms over use. what happens is we start beating the drum here in this country and all of a sudden when you start hearing the fox news sock puppets to dizzy and there's, and they start talking about this demon is ation of china. and that they want something more. they want domination, and are you with your communist? we're actually repeating cold war we read. we did learn from russia, from, from what happened. would you crate? we're doing the same thing. somebody you've got to sit down where she june payment . look, i'm on the adult. what do you want? this is what i don't want war. you don't want war. it was

a favorite stops. be our stuff. the only low don't make me look bad and have a blown by the way. that was good because that's the story we've got satellites. do you think that we don't steal other people's stuff? do you think that was our technology? we don't do the very thing that we say other people do you think i'm going to get my some credit when it comes us to deal with stuff we're we, we can compete with anybody. so the 1st thing i hope that we do is to become adults and, and apply this re, i'll pull it to a do some, some realism here, stop this name, gleick. i left some real adult, make some real progress regarding no issues. and that's the thing, k j, because we've learned with russia, russia really isn't used to becoming the villain, made by western media. doesn't really affect their policies. how is china going to react, or are they reacting to being villa nice to buy the western media?

they don't like it one bit. they think it's absurd. i mean, just give you one example. you know, we've talked about this bible. you know, the chinese have for satellites in geosynchronous orbit. another $140.00 in low earth orbit and $300.00 and lower orders. there are major space power. they can stand and surveil anything they want to scan the united states. so we are suppose to believe that they sent in must slow move, a 2 story white billboard, that scream see me until i get me. despite on the united states, that's so that's like me saying that the n s a would inspire on you 50 ways to choose day drilled, a hole in your wall and stuck a pink time with a string and was listening in on you. it's absurd. well, that's a very interesting rate on that i've got in the ended because i want to say thank you to our steam panel, kim k j line. oh, thank you so much for

a very frank and honest about this conversation cuz you don't hear that many media outlets right now. maybe they're afraid that might be the truth. you know, there's so many stories talking about being afraid where the boogeyman or the villain turns out to be in cohorts with the hero the entire time. now, pardon me, if i find the pontificating so often done by us politicians, 3 merely theatrics as their fears. just actions are against the social media app made payments by viral dances. but now, one of the main sources for on regulated live videos, or they banded the phone manufacturer, which is the number one competitor to apple and every other country. meanwhile, one and 5000 chinese companies actually operate in the united states with little to no attention. companies like smithfield foods, alibaba and even general electric to name a few art majority owned by the chinese. and yet there's silence from us

politicians from writing restrictions against these are other chinese own companies actually doing business in the us. not to mention china owns around $384000.00 acres of american agricultural land, but only a few us governors like florida governor, wanda santas, enacting legislation to sever ties with the chinese country. even if it's to florida is economic detriment. yeah, this lack of consistency makes one believe the relationship between the 2 countries, while volatile, is not the breaking point. some would like us to believe this has been in your 360 do. thanks for watching. it's the, there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case of the med, most of the people i tried to go to the gym,

but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon, this is the 3rd world lunacy re washington press 4. so the funder line likes to say we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals. what should i need? something living on that we have very close propaganda. you know a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions, ask a better. the answer is will be

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