the, the, [000:00:00;00] the got a population that is more people in retirement and working, they're not as they're not importing any. they're not bringing their, there's out of over. no, nobody coming else coming in. they've got real problems. i'm not looking for a fight with china and lots of our competition,

but fair competition. there are no 2 countries who are more economically intertwined in the united states and the people's republic of china. but in this relationship, the more money involved does not make for closer allies. i'm sky now hughes in on this edition of 360 view. we're going to ask is a china friend or foe to the west? let's get started. the from technology to spine to involvement, enrolled wars relations between the united states and china. our tents at best, you know, this all started when the chinese, this bible and floated over the entirety of the us. the lane unimportant, bilateral meeting between china and us back in february of 2023 now kind of claimed

it was a weather balloon and called the decision to shoot down the blue, unacceptable and irresponsible. while us intelligence says the unmanned vessel was designed to collect military data, not why the reports. now this from the secretary of state, anthony, blinking to postpone a diplomatic visit to beijing from february to june, to try and call the attention and present jabard and has also signed a bill for seeing the sale of chinese social media company to talk in april. now all of this comes as a bite and is implementing tariffs and sanctions against china to slow their access to technology, such as somebody conductors and during blinking slash meaning on beijing, chinese versus changing things said washington needs to look at china's development in a positive light all in order for bilateral relations to improve china is willing to see

a confidence in open us with the prosperity and development. it is hope that the us can also look at changes development positively. only when this fundamental issue is resolved with the china us relations be truly stabilized. but is this just more theatre or tensions between the 2 world powers at a breaking point, which will have devastating effects on the rest of the world? well, let us discuss with our panel k, j now author and east asia, expert line, all of a line o media and kim iverson, host the iris, and show thank you so much for joining me. all 3 of you. thank you to. so kim, i'm actually going to start with you because it is no secret that republicans and democrats and office often speak of china as the number one threat globally. yet only a few pieces of life legislation have actually been passed withdrawal hard lines between the 2 countries. so what is the truth regarding the current relationship between washington dc and beijing?

well, the truth is, is that the business class will not really truly allow the political class to do the things. a political class says that they want to do the political class. does a lot of posturing against china. they want to act like they want to act like china is the big bad bully that they have to go after they continue to uh, they're just fostering a lot. but the, the bottom line is we do too much trade with china. we have too much, we have too much riding on the, on china's economy. we have too much of business in china. the business class won't actually allow anything to happen, which is fundamentally a good thing. we should not be creating another cold war or, or creating another adversary if we want to compete. we've got to learn to compete by actually producing better goods by actually making ourselves more self sufficient rather than relying on china and their imports. that is what we need to be doing rather than constantly demonizing and trying to create a cold where it's just not gonna work. okay. days is that how you see it and i have

to ask, what is the united states? the biggest fear in regards to china, the us is a phrase that china is a rising competitive uh they refer to it as a revision. our which is another way of saying that it isn't official enemy, but the us at least 1992 or at least since 1992 has been the considering itself the global age among. and because of that it does not brook any challenges. a char, i know, originally when the us, the populations of china were supposed to become another person up. right. so, so that's why i think, why know this on that side? because it, that's the thing because it looks like, you know, a lot of the us secretary of state the, he said this regarding china and its relationship with russia. so enabling

russia to rebuild the defense industrial base that countries throughout europe are deeply concerned, will be turned against them after ukraine has done. okay. align also is the secretary of state accurate, or is he more more likely gas fighting the citizens into villain isaac china, kind of along with russia. hello, nice everybody, a said israel, which is what we're doing right now. this is in coal here. we have to start from the beginning, listen, you, you, you use the word one time a particular word you use. somebody said, is this trying to an enemy of our, i didn't remember not. and i mean, he's this good versus evil. the mannequins as this one was the good guy in the bad guy. this ridiculous, this is a superpower. so in 1972, we, what we did when we were smart and we were adults. we actually, but we, we, we had pressure in china and actually we embraced china and basically pulled them

away from the shop. in those days of just i'll get you'll get everything today wrote in this weird kind of not, not a head you money, world, skid ship frantic, and our view, our region. just look at what's happening here. now, what is real? look at how the way we handle our show, the sang, should look at what, how nato has absolutely destroyed us. well, we are sketch of frantic, i'm sorry to say this. we need a new integration and start over from scratch him. i got to ask you, the us is taking do think that this administration will take any responsibility for china is growing power in the world, both financially and diplomatically because the other countries are rebelling from the west actions as well. i, you know, i don't think that the administration is going to take responsibility and i also don't think they should. i don't think anybody should have to take responsibility for china is rising power except for china and china has been doing what china needs to do in order to make china strong in order to make china thrive. and i,

i don't think there's any stopping it. i think with 1400000000 people, you're not going to stop the rise of china, especially at the economic rate that they're growing. so i think the only thing you know, rather than blaming administrations for allowing china to arise and the china is going to rise, what we can do is blame the administrations for not properly computed. and rather than actually focus on competition, they're focusing on trying to hinder trying to stop china, creating an enemy out of china, causing the rest of the world to kind of look at us with shocked of. well, what do we, what do we trying to accomplish here? when the rest of the world wants to turn towards china and do business with their 1400000000 people. so i don't think any administration should take blame. i, i for rising a rising china, but they should be, they should be taking blame for not competing properly. why know what your thoughts? okay, very well us, of course you wish the, by the ministration. first of all, china is not the cancer fine. it is a burgeoning moral young leave of

a that excite country that once the same thing, for instance, we want trying is not part of the planet. and you are so question. we remember when we send nancy below to the taiwan, we're going like this, the china, and then we sit back and we wonder if she wonder what's going on. and by the way, much too much is being played about this bullet that flew over this has been going on for ever. we need the dogs to sit down and understand that china once what we want, who we want to run the world. we're blaming, try for doing exactly what we want and we act like, like they're from the planet. and let me explain something big. please do not, couldn't russia? well, china, this is i the allergy versus magnetism versus economic realism. we need somebody far enough, maybe dare i say, like a mere shame or, or somebody to actually understand the way human beings work. re, i'll pull a d and that is not into fox news versus cnn left and right man,

a key or dribble is called survival to i liked the thing. you're on written. maybe we got everything fixed on our we do cause k j in early may present your bite and long, long time allied japan with russia and china. take elizabeth. well, i spent a lot of time with present abe's vice president. and guess what? this call all the put on all but economics, the talking about you know, what fine that is on the tire move because they are just on a full rate because they know i want to invite other people from outside the country to community and make up the workforce, they have fewer work and then they have a need for work. and okay, so describing the nation as xena phobic. well, that's true. widespread outrage, especially since he was freaking out a campaign fundraiser, which was marking asian american heritage month. now. why didn't didn't make similar remarks when chinese president shooting paint came to visit san francisco november watch this. i gave you the sense that the guys in front of the country

is okay, well i try to get a secretary of state entity blinking appears to shake his head and went on present job. i didn't said he still believe chinese president changing thing. the dictator . that's incredible. now the chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman my name said quote, the statement is extremely wrong and irresponsible political manipulation. so i've got to ask you k j is biden largely responsible for these deteriorating relations. no, not at all. you know, it's been a long time coming, you can track it back to the obama administration, which in 2011 declared the pivot to asia, which was essentially the beginning of the plan to encircle and contain china. even that plan was hatched up probably around 2008 to time we noticed because you started building up a doctrine of war called a c baffle in 2009. it was revealed

a few years later. so these plans of the building for a very, very long time. i think you played it squarely on the shoulders of a big obama and here hillary clinton. and even before that, i think you really have to point to the neo cons that essentially put forth a deduction that said they would not tolerate any challenges to the us, but will have germany that no country was allowed to challenge as hate germany. and that they would use any method uh any, to any strategy to prevent that from happening. well, i want to thank you to our being a great discussion. please stick around because hired to the global pandemic present trumpet. been working with china on a trade deal, which was supposed to level the playing field for goods in both countries. now after the break, we're going to look at the economic relationship between the bottom ministration and china,

which administration to china work better with the, to take a fresh look around this life kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power, tired vision with no real opinions fixtures designed to simplify will confuse really once a better world. i mean, is it just as a chosen few fractured images present? it is, but can you see through their illusion going underground? can scott bennett, i'm a former united states army psychological warfare officer,

really served in the state department counterterrorism office under investor del daily the . so i wanted to come here to russia in the dawn bass area and to gather the facts, to take back to the american people, the hold on bass of the front line. so this is where the bombs and the bullets are raging. this is where people are dying. this is where the buildings are exploding the go. i wanted to see 1st hand the scars of war.

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the of the goods and services trade of china totaled an estimated $758400000000.00 in 2022 through the us goods and services. trade deficit with china. think 367000000000, and that same year and well present job. i didn't spend most of his time on the 2020 campaign trail. criticize a former president. donald trump's terrified china biden has not only match them, but it's no exceeding trump era terrace. no, the bind ministration has announced it will raise tariff on certain chinese steel and aluminum products from 7.25 percent to 25 percent this year on semiconductors from 25 percent to 50 percent. and on electric vehicles, 4 times from 25 percent to a 100 percent. all happening next year. now white house press secretary greens, young pierre,

responded to reporters questioning why the president has changed is to change his mind. and now, believe parents work, we have always had concerns on china, unfair trade policies. we've been very clear about that. and the last administration would they do the trade deal with china? what it did is it failed to increase american american export or boost manufacturing. that is, that something the president wants to see. well, for president trump responded to the new terrace, given by the, by the ministration on his way into a new york court room for his hash money trial. he wants to put a, a big jobs on jazz, which is the suggestion that i said wherever you been, sir ran out of here. so you should have done it on the tablet. got out because china is eating on lunch right now and they were away. so what i read is still a good a. okay, so we've got to continue this conversation regarding us as relationship with china,

from an economic perspective, with our guest k j, no author in east asia, expert ed line on from line on media. and kim iverson host of the kim iverson share . thank you so much for joining me again. well, i know i'm gonna start with you on this one. what do you think has caused this shift for president joe biden to go after china in the farm of tears and whose economy is under more pressure? china's or the united states will come in and say, well, 1st of all, the question is not, not what does joe biden? what has caused the person? who tells joe biden want to change their mind? and by the way, if you ever needed any example, the absolute incoherence of this administration, look at your range on peer who basically respond to every question. like she's entering, you know, particle physics, super good 3 questions. it's this kind of a, well, i feel like as long as the knowledge there look very, very simply that's what, what you know, it's so easy for us to use just kind of a pedestrian terms, but, well,

i know what will respect is strength and consistency. and somebody who knows what, how they're talking about that can be adjusted later if you didn't even speak english and you look at the present from center versus visual beer, who knows what they're talking about. they may not be correct, but, but this is, this is i, i think coming to an end right now. and by the way, remember, one thing if china ever decides to have to really play hardball when it comes to taiwan and, and, and, and computer component can be bought or good night. gracie, it's over, it's our, well, what's not over k j is the us media reported on this because they're saying the chinese economy is failing. is that accurate? no, i don't think so. china is economy grew 5 point one percent this most recent quarter

. that's about 3 times as far as the united states and faster than almost any other country in the u. and so child is not failing, a china is doing very well. it's going from strength to strength. now 5 percent is less than the 789 percent that it was growing previously. but still it, it will grow by nearly a trillion dollars this year. that is to say, it grows about the size, one 3rd of india every 3 years. it grows the size, it expands economy, the size of india every 3 years. so china is no slouch, they're building out the technological, the industrial, this scientific capacity is that going from strength to strength. anybody who thinks that china is going to fail. in fact, this is a kind of collapse this doctrine that hillary clinton and neil collins had. i think they're completely mistaken. well can, why is that?

why would they go with that narrative and, and continue to push the child is economies failing? what good does that suppose to accomplish? so while they can, you know, they're just playing the blame game and trying to, to blame anybody but their own us policies as to why the u. s. economy is not doing as well as it could. they're focused on our foreign policy analysts wars. they focus on everything but making america strong and building america up. so all they have is to point and blame even though it is a ridiculous claim. 5 percent g d p growth for china is enormous. that's more than double what the us as g d p growth rate is going down. oh, they say, oh but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's shrinking. it's going down to what 4.6 percent is the estimate and then you still at 1.9 percent. so even with china having a declining g d p, it's still more than doubled in united states. it's still an incredible in norm as g d p growth that china is experiencing. and so they're just trying to say, well, china is scrambling, china doesn't attack. so china is a subsidizing

a bunch of their industries so that those industries don't have to make a profit. so we have to sanction, we have to add all these extra tariffs onto these. for example, on the ease you know, they're putting a 100 percent tariff from the bye didn't ministration. meanwhile, you know, by that has nothing to test what every single turn. you got, one of the biggest e b manufacturers in the world here in the united states. and what is biting done to support tesla. so it's there in invites g m that made what 26 eaves when testing was pumping out 300000 eaves. i mean the, it's the failing of the political class that uses everything for politics and then realize it's later on crap, we made a mistake. so now we're just gonna have to turn around to blame china, and that's an easy thing to do because line, oh, we do know that we are in election year. so i've gotta ask, what is the effect is all of this uh, the november elections actually going to have on the us relationship with china, depending on who wins? well, i think if, if, if we continue and i don't say we are,

we are going to continue. i believe there's going to be a, a change and the ministration in a $170.00 plus days. but one of the things i hope that we stop doing, or we saw it was russia. we went from russia full big to sign a folding. i don't want to use words like racism. i don't why somebody think that those terms over use. what happens is we start beating the drum here in this country and all of a sudden when you start hearing the fox news sock puppets and dizzy and there's and they start talking about this demon is ation of china. and that they want something more. they want domination and or even with your communist, we're actually repeating cold war we read. we did learn from russia, from, from what happened, would you crate? we're doing the same thing. so you've got to sit down where she june payment look, i'm on the adult. what do you want?

this is what i don't want war. you don't want war. it was a favorite stops, the our stuff. the only love, don't make me look bad and have a balloon by the way. that was good because that's the story we've got satellite. do you think that we don't steal other people's stuff? do you think that was our technology? we don't do the very 1st thing that we say other people do you think i'm going to go buy some credit when it comes to deal with stuff we're be we can compete with anybody. so the 1st thing i hope that we do is to become adults and, and, and apply this re, i'll pull it to a do some, some realism here, and stop this name, kelly, and let some real adult, make some real progress regarding no issues. and that's the thing, k j, because we've learned with russia, russia really isn't used to becoming the villain, made by western media. doesn't really affect their policies. how is china going to react, or are they reacting to be realized by the west or media?

they don't like it one bit. they think it's absurd. i mean, just give you one example. you know, we've talked about this bible. you know, the chinese have for satellites in geosynchronous orbit. another $140.00 in low earth orbit and $300.00 and lower orders. there are major space power, they can stand and surveil anything they want to as can the united states. so we are supposed to believe that they sent in must slow moving to story white billboard. that scream, see me and target me despite on the united states. that's so that's like me saying that the n. s a with inspire on you 50 ways to choose day drilled, a hole in your wall and stuck a pink time with a string and was listening in on you. it's absurd. well, that's a very interesting rate on that. i've got in the ended because i want to say thank

you to our steam panel, kim k j line. oh thank you so much for a very frank and honest about this conversation cuz you don't hear that many media outlets right now. maybe they're afraid that might be the truth. you know, there's so many stories talking about being afraid where the boogeyman or the villain turns out to be in cohorts with the hero the entire time. now, pardon me, if i find the pontificating so often done by us politicians, 3 merely theatrics as their fears. just actions are gifts to social media app made payments by viral dances. but now, one of the main sources for on regulated live videos or the band and the phone manufacturer, which is the number one competitor to apple and every other country. meanwhile, one and 5000 chinese companies actually operate in the united states with little to no attention. companies like smithfield foods, alibaba and even general electric to name a few art majority owned by the chinese. and yet there's silence from us

politicians from writing restrictions against these are other chinese own companies, actually doing business in the us. not to mention china owns around 384000 acres of american agricultural land. but only a few us governors like florida governor, wanda santas, enacting legislation to sever ties with the chinese country, even if it's to florida is economic detriment. yup. this lack of consistency makes one believe the relationship between the 2 countries. while volatile is not the breaking point. some would like us to believe this has been a your $360.00 do. thanks for watching. the

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