of the population that is more people in retirement and working they're not, they're not important any, they're not bringing there. there's not a phobia. no, nobody coming else coming in. they've got real problems. i'm not looking for a fight with china. i'm looking for competition, but fair competition. there are no 2 countries who are more economically intertwined than the united states and the people's republic of china. but in this relationship, the more money involved does not make for closer allies. i'm sky now hughes in on this edition of 360 view. we're going to ask is a china friend or foe to the west? let's get started. the

from technology to spine, to involvement and world wars relations between the united states and china. our tense, i best know this all started when the chinese, this bible in forwarded over the entirety of the us. the line, unimportant, bilateral meeting between china and us back in february of 2023 now kind of claimed it was a weather balloon and called the decision to shoot down the blue, unacceptable and irresponsible. while us intelligence says the unmanned vessel was designed to collect military data, not why the reports. now this from this secretary of state entity blinking to postpone a diplomatic visit to beijing from february to june, to try and quote, attentions, and present jabard and has also signed a bill for seeing the sale of chinese social media company to talk in april. now

all of this comes as a biden is implementing tariffs and sanctions against china to slow their access to, to technology. so just to my conductors, and during blinking the last meeting on beijing, chinese versus shooting pain said washington needs to look at china's development in a positive light. all in order for bilateral relations to improve just is willing to see a confident and open us with prosperity and development. it is hope that the us can also look at changes development positively. only one is fundamental issue is resolved, what the china us relations be truly stabilized. but is this just more theatre or tensions between the 2 world powers at a breaking point, which will have devastating effects on the rest of the world? well, let us discuss with our panel k, j now author and east asia, expert line,

all of a line on media and kim iverson, host the iris, and show thank you so much for joining me. all 3 of you. thank you. so kim, i'm actually going to start with you because it is no secret that republicans and democrats and office often speak of china as the number one threat globally. yet only a few pieces of lever legislation have actually been passed, which draw hard lines between the 2 countries. so what is the truth regarding the current relationship between washington dc and beijing? well, the truth is that the business class will not really truly allow the political class to do the things that the political class says that they want to do. the political class does a lot of posturing against china. they would act like they want to act like china is the big bad bully that they have to go after they continue to. they're just pastoring a lot, but the, the bottom line is we do too much trade with china. we have too much. we have too

much riding on the, on china's economy. we have too much of business in china. the business class won't actually allow anything to happen, which is fundamentally a good thing. we should not be creating another cold war or, or creating another adversary if we want to compete. we've got to learn to compete by actually producing better goods by actually getting, making ourselves more self sufficient rather than relying on china and their imports. that is what we need to be doing, rather than constantly demonizing and trying to create a cold war. it's just not gonna work. ok date is that how you see it? and i have to ask, what is the united states? the biggest fear in regard to china, the us is afraid that china is a rising competitor. they refer to it as a resistance our, which is another way of saying that it is an official enemy, but the us at least 1992 at least since 1992 has being the considering itself, the global hatred mom. and because of that, it does not brook any challenges

a child i know originally when the us the have relations with china number we're supposed to become another person. all right? so, so that's why i think why know this on that side? because that's the thing because it looks like, you know, in light of the us, secretary of state. so he said this regarding china and it's relationship with russia. so enabling russia to rebuild the defense industrial base that countries throughout europe are deeply concerned, will be turned against them after ukraine is done. okay, align also is the secretary of state accurate, or is he more more likely gas fighting the citizens into villain eyes in china? kind of, along with russia, they don't like everybody except israel, which is what we're doing right now. this is in co, here. we have to start from the beginning. listen, you, you,

you use the word one time a particular word you use. somebody said, is this china an enemy of our, i didn't remember not enemies, this good versus evil. the mannequins is this. who is the good guy in the bad guys? this ridiculous, this is a super power that when id, so i'm going to, we more we did when we were smart and we were adults. we actually, but we, we, we had a show in china and actually we embraced china and basically pulled them away from the shop. in those days of this all, we had just everything. today. we're just, we're kind of not not a head you money, world or skid ship frantic, and our view, our region just look at what's happening right now. what is real? look at how the way we handle our show, the sanctions look at what, how nato has absolutely destroyed us. well, we are, gets a frantic. i'm sorry to say this. we need a new integration and start over from scratch him. i got to ask you,

the us is taking, do you think that this administration will take any responsibility for china's growing power in the world, both financially and diplomatically, because the other countries are rebelling from the west to actions as well. i, you know, i don't think that the administration is going to take responsibility and i also don't think they should. i don't think anybody should have to take responsibility for china is rising power except for china and china has been doing what china needs to do in order to make china strong in order to make china thrive. and i, i don't think there's any stopping it. i think with 1400000000 people, you're not going to stop the rise of china, especially at the economic rate that they're growing. so i think the only thing you know, rather than blaming administrations for allowing china to arise and the china is going to rise, what we can do is blame the administrations for not properly computed. and rather than actually focus on competition, they're focusing on trying to hinder trying to stop china, creating an enemy out of china, causing the rest of the world to kind of look at us with shocked of. well,

what do we, what do we trying to accomplish here? when the rest of the world wants to turn towards china and do business with their 1400000000 people. so i don't think any administration should take blame. i, i for rising a rising china, but they should be, they should be taking blame for not competing properly, vinyl. what's her thoughts? okay, there we go. us, of course you wish to buy the administration. first of all, the china is not the cancer fine. it is a burgeoning brazilian leave of a that excite country that once the same thing for is good, we want trying is not part of the planet. and you are so question. remember when we send nancy below to the taiwan? we're going like this to china, and then we sit back and we wonder if she wonder what's going on. and by the way, much too much is being played about this balloon that flew over this has been going on for an hour. we need the dogs to sit down to understand that china once what we want, who we want to run the world. we're blaming try for doing exactly what we want. and

we act like, like they're from the planet. and let me explain something big. please do not confuse russia. well china, this is i, the ology versus right much isn't versus economic realism. we need somebody far enough, maybe dare i say, like a mere shame or, or somebody to actually understand the way human beings work. re, i'll pull a d and that there's not a fox news versus cnn left and right man, a key or dribble is called survival to i liked the thing. you're on written. maybe we got everything fixed on. i hope we do cause k j in early may present your bite and long, long time allied japan with russia and china. take a listen. well, i spend a lot of time with present abe's vice president. guess what is going on, but not at all, but economics. the talking about, you know, you would find that is on the tire move because they are just down a full rate because they know i want to invite other people from outside their

country to conclude. and make up the workforce, they have fewer workers, then they have a need for work. okay, so describing the nation as xena phobic. well, that's true. widespread outrage, especially since he was freaking out a campaign fundraiser, which was marketing asian american heritage month. now, why didn't didn't make similar remarks when china is present, shooting paint came to visit san francisco november. watch this in the sense that the guy with frontier is okay, watch how to get a secretary of state entity blinking appears to shake his head and went when president obama and said he still believe chinese president, changing ping the dictator. that's incredible. now the chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman my name said quote, the statement is extremely wrong and irresponsible political manipulation. so i've gotta ask you, k j is biden largely responsible for these deteriorating relations,

or no, not at all. you know, it's been a long time coming. you can track it back to the obama administration, which in 2011 declared the pivot to asia, which was essentially the beginning of the plan to encircle and contain china. even that plan was hatched up probably around 2008 to sign. we noticed because you started building up a doctrine of war called s c, baffle in 2009. it was revealed a few years later. so these plans of the building for a very, very long time. i think you played it squarely on the shoulders of a big obama and here hillary clinton and even before that, i think you really have to point to the neo cons that essentially put forth a deduction that said they would not tolerate any challenges to the us but will a gemini, that no country was allowed to challenge the state gemini,

and that they would use any method uh, any to any strategies to prevent that from happening? well, i want to thank you to our panel. great discussion. please stick around because hired to the global pandemic present trumpet, been working with china on a trade deal, which was supposed to level the playing field for goods and both countries. now after the break, we're going to look at the economic relationship between the bottom ministration and china, which ministration to china work better with. the is widely recognized that they can rename it. it's western batteries are losing the proxy war on russia. in the case of ukraine, it is obvious bad news, but gets more bad news. the west appears incapable to comprehend as war and rush. it is an utter failure. the scott bennett, i'm former united states army psychological warfare officer, reassert them the state department counterterrorism office under investor del daily

the. the saw i wanted to come here to russia in the dawn bass area and to gather the facts, to take back to the american people. the hold on bass of the front lines. this is where the bombs and the bullets are raging, and this is where people are dying. this is where the buildings are exploding the all. i wanted to see 1st hand the scars of war, the

acceptance. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show search like why watch something that's so different whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do have the state department c i a weapons makers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't want my shell stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching, but again, you probably don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you the goods and services trade with china totaled an estimated 758400000000 dollars in

2022 through the us goods and services trade devastated with china being $367000000000.00 and that same year and well present job. i didn't spend most of his time on the 2020 campaign trail. criticize a former president. donald trump's terrified china biden has not only matched them, but it's no exceeding trump era. here. now the buying ministration has announced it will raise tariffs on certain chinese steel and aluminum products from 7.25 percent to 25 percent this year on semiconductors from 25 percent to 50 percent. and on electric vehicles, they are times from 25 percent to a 100 percent. all happening next year. at white house press, secretary greens, young pierre, responded to reporters questioning why the president has changed is to change his mind and now believes tariffs work. we have always had concerns on china,

unfair trade policies. we've been very clear about that. and the last administration, when they did a trade deal with china, what it did is it failed to increase american american export or boost manufactory . that is not something the president wants to see. well, for a present truck responded to the new terrace, given by the, by the ministration on his way into a new york court room. for his hash money trial. he wants to put a, a big tarps on china, which is a suggestion that i said, where do you been, sir? ran out of here. so you should have done that on top of that because china is eating on lunch right now and they were away. so when i read still a good a. okay, so we've got to continue this conversation regarding us as relationship with china, from an economic perspective, with our guest kj, no author in east asia, expert and line on from line on media. and kim iverson host of the kim, ever since you thank you so much for joining me again. well,

i know i'm gonna start with you on this one. what do you think has caused this shift for president joe biden to go after china in the farm of tears, and whose economy is under more pressure? china or the united states will come in and say, well, 1st of all, the question is not, not what does joe biden, what has caused the person? who tells joe biden want to change their mind? and by the way, if you ever needed any example, the absolute incoherence of this administration, look at your range on peer who basically respond to every question. like she's entering, you know, particle physics, super with 3 questions. it's this kind of a, well, i feel like as long as the knowledge, they're very, very simply that's what, what you know, it's so easy for us to use this kind of a pedestrian terms. but, well, i know what will respect is strength and consistency. and somebody who knows what the hell they're talking about that can be adjusted later. if you didn't even speak

english and you look at the present from center versus visual beer, who knows what they're talking about. they may not be correct, but, but this is, this is i, i think coming to an end right now. and by the way, remember, one thing if china ever decides to have to really play hardball when it comes to taiwan and, and, and, and computer component can be bought or good night. gracie, it's over, it's our what, what's not over k j is the us media reported on this because they're saying the chinese economy is failing. is that accurate? no, i don't think so. china is economy grew 5 point one percent this most recent quarter . that's about 3 times as far as the united states and faster than almost any other country in the u. and so china is not failing. a china is doing very well. it's

going from strength to strength. now 5 percent is less than the 789 percent that it was growing up previously. but still it, it will grow by nearly a trillion dollars this year. that is to say, it grows about the size, one 3rd of india every 3 years. it grows the size, it expands economy, the size of india every 3 years. so china is no slouch, they're building out that technological, the industrial, this scientific capacity is that going from strength to strength. anybody who thinks that china is going to fail. in fact, this is a kind of collapse this doctrine that hillary clinton and neil collins had. i think they're completely mistaken. well can, why is that? why would they go with that narrative and, and continue to push the child is economies failing? what good does that suppose to accomplish as well? they can, you know, they're just playing the blame game and trying to,

to blame anybody but their own us policies as to why the u. s. economy is not doing as well as it could. they're focused on our foreign policy analyst wars. they focus on everything but making america strong and building america up. so all they have, it's a point and blame even though it is a ridiculous claim. 5 percent g d p growth for china is enormous. that's more than double with the us as g d p growth rate is going down. oh, they say all but it's, it's, uh, it's shrinking. it's going down to what 4.6 percent is the estimate and then you still at 1.9 percent. so even with china having a declining g d p, it is still more than doubled in united states. it's still an incredible in norm as g d p growth that china is experiencing. and so they're just trying to say, well, china is scrambling. china doesn't attack is so china is a subsidizing a bunch of their industries so that those industries don't have to make a profit. so we have to sanction, we have to add all these extra terrorist onto these. for example,

on the ease you know, they're putting the 100 percent tariff from the bite in ministration. meanwhile, you know, by that has snapped tesla at every single turn. you've got one of the biggest e v manufacturers in the world here in the united states. and what is biting done to support tesla since they're in invites g m, that made what $26.00 eaves when testing was pumping out $300000.00 eaves. i mean the, it's the failing of the political class that uses everything for politics. and then realize this later. oh crap, we made a mistake. so now we're just gonna have to turn around to blame china. and that's an easy thing to do because line, oh, we do know that we are in election here. so i've got to ask, what is the effect is all of this uh, the november elections actually going to have on the us relationship with china, depending on who wins as well. if, if, if we continue and i don't think we are, we are going to continue. i believe there's going to be a, a change in administration, in a $170.00 plus days. but one of the things i hope that we stop doing,

or we saw it was russia. we went from russia full, big to sign of folding. i don't want to use words like racism. i, i don't like that. i think that those terms over use. what happens is we start beating the drum here in this country, and all of a sudden, when you start hearing the fox news sock puppets, the sea, and there's, and they start talking about this deem it is ation of china. and that they want something more, they want domination, and or even with your communist, we're actually repeating cold war we read. we did learn from russia, from, from what happened, would you crate? we're doing the same thing. so you've got to sit down where she june payment look, i'm on the adult. what do you want? this is what i don't want war. you don't want war. it was a favorite stops the our stuff, the only low don't make me look bad and have a balloon by the way. that was good because that's the story we've got satellite.

you think that we don't steal other people's stuff. do you think that was our technology? we don't do the very 1st thing that we say other people do you think i'm going to go buy some credit when it comes us to deal with stuff we're be we can compete with anybody. so the 1st thing i hope that we do is to become adults and, and apply that to re, i'll pull it up and use some, some realism here, and stop this name. kelly. i left some real adult, makes some real progress regarding no issues. and that's the thing, k j, because we've learned with russia, russia really isn't used to becoming the villain, made by western media. doesn't really affect their policies. how is china going to react, or are they reacting to being villa nice to buy the western media? or they don't like it one bit. they think it's absurd. i mean, just give you one example. you know, we talked about this bible. you know,

the chinese have for satellites in geosynchronous orbit. another $140.00 in low earth orbit and $300.00 in lower orbit. there are major space power. they can stand and surveil anything they want to scan the united states. so we are suppose to believe that they sent in must slow moving to story white billboard. that scream see me and target me despite on the united states. that's so that's like me saying that the n. s a with inspire on you 50 ways to tuesday. drilled a hole in your wall and stuck a pink time with a string and was listening in on you. it's absurd. well, that's a very interesting rate on that. i've got in the ended because i want to say thank you to our steam panel. kim k j line. oh thank you so much for a very frank and honest about this conversation cuz you don't hear that many media outlets right now. maybe they're afraid that might be the truth. you know,

there's so many stories talking about being afraid where the boogeyman or the villain turns out to be in cohorts with the hero the entire time. now, pardon me, if i find the participating so often done by us politicians, 3 merely theatrics as their fears. just actions are against the social media app made payments by viral dances. but now, one of the main sources for on regulated live videos, or they banded the phone manufacturer, which is the number one competitor to apple and every other country. meanwhile, one and 5000 chinese companies actually operate in the united states with little to no attention. companies like smithfield foods, alibaba and even general electric to name a few art majority owned by the chinese. and yet there's silence from us politicians from writing restrictions against these are other chinese own companies actually doing business in the us. not to mention china owns around $384000.00

acres of american agricultural land, but only a few us governors like florida governor, wanda santas, enacting legislation to sever ties with the chinese country. even if it's to florida is economic detriment. yeah, this lack of consistency makes one believe the relationship between the 2 countries, while volatile is not the breaking point. some would like us to believe this has been in your 360 view. thanks for watching the time of rick sanchez. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different. several opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to planes or do the have the state

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