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the, the welcome to world a part of the most cultures have a long standing for our mission against floating at the no timely desk to give an office one enemy. and deep down to the problem, bishop serves the very important function of preserving a sense of share of humanity, its limits to entrench hatred and pull a rising different, says the catastrophic depths of the range of president and his team in a helicopter crash elicited solemn condolences from watching the world except for the west, what values are being endorsed by this act of dancing on the grave? well, to discuss that i'm now joined by mohammed moran day, a political analyst, and a professor at the university of katherine. but 1st of miranda is 3 to talk to your again, thank you very much for being available. thank you very much for having me. now i know that you have worked with present traces family as an advisor, perhaps also as
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a friend. and i want to begin by expressing my condolences because i suppose it's not just the, not only a national laws, but also something that touches you personally. yes, i was it, it's very close. i met them. i met the president and a number of occasions he and his wife on the few occasions as well. uh, the president was a very, very humble person, very polite, very friendly. and also when he would constantly be removed from one province to another. he would travel to each province at least once a year and in the province, he would travel from one town to another. and usually he would focus on the more deprives areas and on people who been left behind. so he is
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particularly popular among the disenfranchised. the working class and we saw that in the funeral was the western media. uh after you had passed away, what was bringing on people saying people in iran are celebrating and uh, i was on a on one media outlets. the b, b. c. and they brought guess before me who are saying this, and then i said, well let's wait for the funeral and we'll see. and after we saw millions of people on the streets of to around and millions of people on, on the streets of other cities where the funeral procession also went through. suddenly the western media went completely silent on almost completely silent while i left or not completely silent, been because in the 1st few days after his death, you know, there was a flurry of publications about his supposedly cruel nature and what
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a fact his demise may have on the country specifically whether or not they may lead to the downfall of the reading and said, i'm being a little bit suspicious here, but did you learn anything new about your country and the math from those reports? so we see this sort of nonsense coming from western media for you is anything that they say about iran is highly negative. it's been like that since i was a teenager. and so if i see anything that goes against the narrative, i would be surprised president, re see if he was so the role and horrible. we wouldn't have witnessed these extraordinary crowds into front millions of people. i was at the funeral and i couldn't stay very long because we simply couldn't move. we were stuck. and i was with my family and also my mother an elderly major. so the lady said we had to
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leave. but you know, the, in the west, they create a particular narrative because it serves a purpose and they use the so called iranians, who works for western media or western institutions who will say what they want to hear. that those people was, would know that if they don't say what the, the, the american political establishment wants to hear, to lose their status to lose their job. so it's, um, it's a, it's a, it's something that we've been seeing for for decades now. and that's basically the reason why western analysts and western politicians and western leaders only is miscalculate because their assumptions are wrong. and based upon those assumptions, they create policies and they fail. they may wonder why now are you just said that it's been happening for dykus, but i still think that the, it's a relatively more during scene. because in the worst of the past,
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guns that accountants use to go silent to allow their warning sides to bury the data. and i think to these day turning a funeral into a political around this consider the moral sin and most societies or most traditional societies. because there are things that are above, you know, political, the media in, or expediency what, why do you think it's lost on western patricians? like, let's say you're a secretary of state anthony blinking, who essentially is sad when asked about this catastrophe though, it was a good thing. i think it is another sign of the decline of the western empire as the empire collapses. the regimes of the wes become more angry and more aggressive and increasingly irrational. we see that in gaza in how they are open the supporting an ongoing data side and day after day they're trying to justify it
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. and they make these europeans and these uh, north american soup, constantly around to about human rights. and what is rights are we are allowing this re, re, re seem to massacre women and girls 24 hours a day or when it comes to ukraine. when everyone knows that the ukrainian regime is losing the war, they want to sacrifice more ukrainian young men be simply because they want to hurt russia, so they're willing to destroy you praying to hurt russia or, but they speak about ukrainian sovereignty. yet on the other hand, they poke china by supporting taiwan and they do it more blatantly than before. in the past. they were more subtle. they, they pretended to be the side that was a fighting by international law and human rights. but now the mask is off and i
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think this is a part of that. uh huh. now, uh if you allow me, i wanna ask you one more question about das, because uh, as uh, one reporter in the past. i think that is actually a major issue. they attitude to thousands of on the rights foreign policy on the latest, the common the by i'll send you blinking about the, you know, the catastrophe in being essentially a good thing. reminded me of his predecessor, hillary clinton, who was the last thing i've been use of margaret office. murder. i mean, and she, by the way, it was somebody who visited his own house roughly a year before that. so there's something about the western culture that i kind of quite a grasp, but i remember that even in the west, at least when i was siding their desk and used to be called the great equalizer. because of how most people into connecting with our own mortality, the mortality of that loved ones, which is you know, a source of human empathy at the end of the day. do you think people like blink, can i even capable of a genuine empathic response?
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not only for that and them is but they want for that allies? no, not at all. this is the man who is doing his best to help is really resume. continue with this set us up and you, you make a good exam. you. your example of hillary clinton was very, very good. she went and said after we people saw the footage of uh, mr. da da. see the word or in murder. oh, tell him right. or exactly, and then she said we came, we saw and he died and then she laughed in a very sinister writing. but now it's, i think, far worse than back then hillary clinton was more crude than most of the other major, major politicians at that time. but now it's become almost universal and as you rightly point out, the language, the behavior is, has become really extreme in the west. so i think again,
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it's because they are their empire is on the con, the decline, it's rapidly declining, the declining, they see it following, and it just makes them more angry, more hostile and more full of hatred. and i think the best example is because the world is watching in shock, and it just doesn't stop and the west keeps giving the regime or weapons. and every morning when we wake up, we see new core ethic images. and when we go to bed at night, right, people are going like, can we see these images we we can escape them. okay. now um, going back to the catastrophe with the presidential helicopter. um, you know, tragedies of the scale do happen? uh, they are rare but they do occur and they may be used for political or geo political purposes. i'm thinking here on the 2010 crash of the polish
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playing with president the left to chance get on board. and the allegations and political consequences for russia that it provoked. do you expect anything of this sort of this time around these crash being used for, you know, the interest of the local or a global arrange 8 agents who were 1st we'll have to see what the investigation reveals. at the moment, the assumption is that it was an accident. there are reasons to believe that there was an accident. there was an old helicopter, he was not using a presidential helicopter. and it is an american helicopter, which uh and you know that because of the sanctions, our airlines are aircraft. i have very great difficulty in finding spare parts. also, although when the helicopter took off,
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the weather suddenly changed and it entered the cloudy area, very cloudy. it was raining and there was a heavy fog can amount to this phase with for us. so the circuit, the circumstantial evidence, uh for a website or let me rephrase. that's the, the, there are questions that need to be answered and there may be legitimate answers for those questions, but we'll have to wait and see. but at the assumption for now, i said it was most probably an accident, but we'll have to see now uh, speculating about the consequences. i think it's quite predictable. the most western observers for now focus on the weather and all this entering periods will provoke street products in iran. and i suppose your answer to that. would it be a resounding no, but simply because that's not the way the uranium system works. but still, the iranian political landscape is not void of competition. there are various
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factions, do you think this sudden change in leadership may intensify, internal jocelyn for power among various actors? you know, this is a very good question. a very good question. in the west, on the one hand and you have these inconsistent narratives from the one have ryan is this dictatorship where the leader makes all the decisions and everyone else just does what he says. but on the other hand, as the present, now that the president's call, we've had this, all this competition going on. so these are contradictory, but then again, you have different as the, as the narrative goes, there is competition for power. among these different factions in the west, that's called democracy, that's called debate. that's called civil society. but somehow the same thing when it comes to a country like you run, it becomes a more incentive. so there's a rap, it's a sort of rap for power. so all of these are contradictory,
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but the west or west or media will say them, oh, really, uh, almost simultaneously. but they don't recognize me. they don't recognize that none of these things fit together. logically speaking in a single narrative, without a doubt that we will have the constitution has the answers for all different cases than the 1980s. we lost the president due to an assassination by a terrorist group that space in the west as we speak. and then we had election in accordance with the constitution and the president was rep, replace, and we moved on. we will have a new president within weeks. the 1st vice president right now is assuming the roles of the, of the president in accordance with the constitution. and iran will continue, okay, profess them are under. we have to think of very short break right now, but we will be back in just
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a few moments. stay to the the, the, the is already those lines. as can be started by line piece can be started by a true importance of we can never be kind of
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a station. so that transparency is extraordinary. john mystic patrice then just succeeded in finding documents that existed in making them available to the world public. i mean, what could be more holding back by publishing information and sharing information with the public. he was exercising the rights for a speech he did so in the public interest. lies tends to me, engulfing endlessly to relate to seriously. i know, i know why advice may know who is the guy that illegal anymore wisely. voltage us has to be on box weighing a 175 used to go through the incentives. are we going to lift that? stay
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the welcome back to world reports with mohammed and the run. the political analysts then a professor at the university of ron, professor merante as we started discussing before they break, the writing and political system has space and ample room for competition. but there's also a craving process to ensure that they had them be executive doesn't turn on the system itself, but the rather how the steering and developing it in that consider them careful manner. what's your sense of what the raining of society is your name for now? what are the most pressing challenges or the most pressing expectation ends of the people? i think it's the economy right now. there's a large degree of consensus on iranian foreign policy. present races. biggest achievement was breaking the isolation that was imposed upon iran by the united
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states. he joined the same kites, cooperation organization on and he let us towards a great, a better relations with neighboring countries. he also, under his administration, we joined bricks, a band. he travelled extensively to latin america to africa, 2 countries across asia. so he was quite successful in breaking the siege that the americans impose upon the country and the economy is now growing up for the last 2 years. we had pretty good growth for the 2. it was 4 and a half for over 4 percent and over 6 percent this, this last year. so there have been success is of course, life is so difficult for you, ronnie, is, and it hasn't yet really reflected itself this growth in everyday life. but the
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country is moving, i think, in the right direction. but the key issue for ordinary iranians right now is the, the economy. and so i think the debates that we'll be seeing in the coming weeks and the discussions among the different political accounts, they will be focus on the countries that kind of make issues. interesting. while you're saying that the iranians, like most people around the world, the most concerned with daily bread and butter issues, almost every western tv report that i've seen on the president's races. death mentioned him in relation to a stricter enforcer. enforcement of the he job and chastity laws and i think it's, it's clearly the preferred political stablish for the westerners to try to validate the iran. and it's easier for you and me to make a case for cultural hegemony here. but why do thing they choose
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a base particular issue to tie it so much to around where women's representation in social life is among the highest and the mazda in world. and they have many other muslim allies where, you know, women's dress code is enforced. my in the much more stricter and punishing way. i think a lot of it again has to do with oriental is um and uh, this uh, authorize ation. and a sense of superiority that the west has. if you recall, when the, the war in ukraine began, the present protein was, uh, i think it was the wall street journal. they put up a picture of them. and they were saying that russia has gone back to his asian roots or something like that. and other words, the browser, so by the way, yes, but they, they try to depict it to their people as if somehow there's a being asian is, is barbaric and a sub human unless human it's, it's,
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this is quite right. it was quite racism. it was quite extraordinary that it could be so open the public shoot. you couldn't do that that say in the united states about african americans anymore. but you can easily be done whether it's any ronnie in or it's a russian. so that's, that's, that's an easy way to demonize the other side. and then also i think it has to do a lot with a history because it, whenever the west in the past tried to present itself as superior, it put it. so it depicted the other side is inferior uh, before differing, but sometimes it during different periods of time for different opposite reasons. so for example, the orient the say, the muslims, in the 19th century early 19th century late 18th century, were often depicted as backward because they were accused of being more homosexual
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. but then nowadays, the orient is seen as more backward because there a scene is less accepting of almost sexuality or in the past many africans, or i'm or a native americans where depicted as less of a civilized. because the move, the women direct had the cover themselves, the less than europeans and pianos were more civilized because they were more conservatively dressed. but nowadays, when it comes to this part of the world, iran would be writing and are less civilized because the women dress more in a more modest fashion. so a lot of this has to do with this hierarchy of civilizations and culture where all we use the west comes as it stands at the top even though often to the values the through the passage of time, rivers you recently before the united states by pursuing this policy of had gemini, occupation, cultural and economic colonialism is only making things more difficult for itself
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because it's no longer brings the desires outcomes on the alley. and it's not only, and you know, they suppose that adding these but also the allies. do you think there's anything that may persuade washington to change? if not it's course of action, you know, let them stay a has a month, but the police being the style of the style that they do it? no, unfortunately, i don't think that that is going to happen until something catastrophic happens until some sort of economic collapse takes place. or somehow the united states recognizes that it can no longer dominate the world. in the united states, we know can no longer dominate the world. this is not the united states of the 19 fifties and sixties and seventies, where it was the global power the, the economy, the, the global economy was dominated by the us economy. relatively speaking, the united states as a much weaker country,
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that before many countries are on the rise now. and it's not just china, but there are many out there to submit the brakes countries. almost all of them are moved them. and of course, the run is a one of those important countries that's, that's rapidly rising and being but the united states can't adjust to reality. washington is still in this bubble. they do see what's happening, but still they somehow wish to believe that they will. they will manage things and they will stay at the top. and what is the right thing for the united states to do is to look at the world realistic, realistically, and try to improve its relations with moran, with russia and others, and to end and to manage this evolving situation. but at the moment they kept, their arrogance won't let them do that. but it, when, when the time comes that i'm and i'm very confident that that will happen despite that a lot of blood being spilt,
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probably being spilt until then. when that catastrophe happens for the us economy, then i think people will force the regime to re things and baby and hopefully we will have a more reasonable leadership in the united states. now. um you mentioned about, uh, you mentioned the blog being spelt um the are referred to the guys the issue a couple of times throughout this interview. the change in the iranian executive leadership comes to the as you know, at the time of hi contentions. not only in gaza, but specifically there with israel pushing forth with it's a indiscriminate offense of do you expect any change and instead of the balance of power, because whether you run does something or not, it is a powerful gravitating force. so just by being in the region is the fact many ways on the ground. so uh, are you expecting anything to change in terms of the original dynamics?
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and i think it's already changed. the, the west is on the decline and therefore, is this riley regime is on the decline because it is a, it is completely dependent upon the west. on the other hand, the regime has lost in gaza, causes a dot dot on the map. when we look at the globe, yet the regime has been completely incapable of taking this stop after 8 months. on the other hand, on the border, which 11 on has will, has defeated it as well. they've been forced to withdraw the whole colonizer in the population. that is colonized that region away from the border and passed again after 78 months. they've been incapable of doing anything about it. in the red sea, the united states in support of this revenue regime has fail completely against the, the yeah, many armed forces and, and sort of a line. of course, when you run it finally struck back at the regime. i think you're on ship said that the equation has changed and after that is really regime has refrain from attacking
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iranian to in syria. so israel is on the decline, but even more important then it's military different is the fact that it has been it's, it's credibility and it's image across the world, along with the class collected west that supported has been demolished across the world. and even within the west, so the balance of power has tilted away from the west and definitely does writing machine, which is now seen as weak, broken, and vulnerable. and again, the united states in new york and do know this. they are leaders notice, but somehow they still live in this fantasy land that where they po for. they believe that somehow they are superior, a civilization and culture where will emerge victorious. well then the saddest thing of all professor mironda is that the font is a lamb that they have reserved for themselves means a blog bass for the world,
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the now in gaza, but also in many other places. we will have to leave it there, but it's been great talking to you as always. thank you very much for your time. thank you very much for having me. and thank you for watching hope to searing down on a role as a part of the the scott bennett. i'm former united states army psychological warfare officer,
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really served in the state department counterterrorism office under investor del daily the . so i wanted to come here to russia in the dawn bass area and to gather the facts, to take back to the american people, the hold on bass as the front lines and the square, the bombs and the bullets are raging. this is where people are dying, this is where the buildings are exploding the go. i wanted to see firsthand the scars of war
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the and the stories that shape the way to nation more. and so ron lays it's late presidents to rest abraham, right. you see was killed along with members of his entourage and the helicopter crash. the country is vice president points, the finger at the us thing and the sanctions played a role told me to call, you know, the american economic sanctions have also affected our own aviation equipment systems. or we have lots of great people with the political history there on the last half century as shown that such incidents have only led to greater. he'd be of the people warning, disturbing images to spite porters by the international court of justice to prevent genocide and hold it's offensive on rough on israel continues its relentless

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