on the launch, and we have to mention that the united states, they are the main thing to be back to the last one said, it's budget. it's coming from the united states to be a $165000000.00 every year. now one thing that you can use that step of the budget is just this dash. so some of the categories now i will give you these boards and try to and. busy the grease, the fusions in order to, you know, make a, make, make it. i think i said these general ucc and make sure that the worst thing goes on. and the other one, ours is the only organization work in uh, guards. that's especially the 35000 edition, i'm at 4 degrees find to doctors and teachers. and so they are the only organization that has the better thing is now it especially those who are

moving from one area to another because the large and to give them scores and to give them also the age and the hosp, the guys and everything is on the do that other organizations are to support you do is and you guys understood thank you very much for giving us a sense of the situation there. as we discussed, the is really can, that's, that's decision or at least the bills which may be made into law. to make unwrapped a terrorist organizations around vacations with at side and the mirror experts on israel published any relations there. thank you so much. no. you know, it does a ukraine, the feet to actually monitor for nato across sort problem discussions about next. delving into the aggressive rhetoric increasingly being altered of late by western of late state goes peter, and guess are here to get his allowance, the

the, what is part of the is it that the employee would post good? isn't the defense you of us and bidding the word part? is it something deeper? more complex might be present? good. let's stop without cases. let's go out of as the hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered on peter lavelle?

it is now common place to hear that ukraine is on its last legs. its collapse is only a matter of time. in many ways, this is true. however, this overlooks the fact that nato is unwilling to accept defeat. and this complex for this aggressive military alliance, more escalation is on the edge and the cross, i think nato, i'm joined by my guess. angel juliano in hong kong is a political and financial analyst and assemble. we have conic serial amar. he is a historian, political commentator, as well as the associated professor at cox university. and in dallas we cross the david while ago. he is a jew, political analyst, author, and veteran, right job in cross type roles and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciated tati. let me go to you 1st and assemble. obviously, your call go following the events surrounding is, are you create as closely as the rest of us here. but you know,

you just can't help, but notice all the fishers going on. you have and out of capitals of nato. you know, you have a prime minister saying this, a president saying this, and then you have stilton burge, the general, the secretary saying another thing, who's actually calling the shots on ukraine policy. because for all this vantage unity there seems to be an enormous amount of divisions. going on, go ahead and assemble. i think you raised the extremely important issue which is that it's entirely unclear who was ultimately calling the shots on ukraine policy. i would have said, usually in the end it is the white house in the end of to see americans because the american, so eventually dominate nato. and one thing they have seen in this conflict set the americans that have subjugated so your team partner. so clients of assets, i would actually say as never before, and they were p and so really subordinate that themselves. but, but yes, my tab. yeah, my can forget it is the beautiful also seen another thing i meant. i would argue

that over the last 2 years, they have been sort of extremis, sunday to hawks if you want. and then half thoughts will be moderate, so don't get me from pen not to be up on the route, so not pass it 1st, the rushman, but the less extremes and extremist. so say for instance on one side you have kind of carlos from a stone you had on the other side. you have a little of salts from germany, right? extreme is monitored. and the big problem and natal is that the extremist don't always get what they want, at least not immediately. that's very important to note. but the extremist always set the terms of the debate and then never go away and then never take no one answer. and the other is the moderates inside new to inside the collective best, more broadly, never make the stream is take no for an on. so this is the very dangerous dynamic that is happening in nature right now. we are looking at the reasons for that. i don't want to take up too much time, but we're looking at this as

a situation where the extremes actually don't necessary call all the shots, but they are constantly dominating the game. and this is 5 years of seeing this long term s collection, right? first of us, never f sixteens because that's what we'll see, you know, be at f 16. so just find the example right. so we, and let's say that the extreme is, i'm not going to drive us on files. i had lots glo, debit and tell them a bank originally, but what makes it very interesting. i'll go to angelo on this one right now. i, i agree with everything you just said here, but it seems, you know, and we have these divisions going on and, and the question comes about who's calling the shots angela. it's really not about ukraine, but it's really about the fate of nato and nato's mission. it will, it refuses to admit defeat, it refuses to admit that this is ridiculous project from the get go. has very little to do with ukraine at this point. go ahead and hung. com. yes, absolutely. i think this could be a defining moment for natal east need to use the news as gains to russia. these 4

projects for the past. and it could be actually very damaging for you on the long run. uh, what uh, what is an interesting, what happened? what be sold to this you paying conflict? this special to me to help ration, or just to realize how d e u is just the best. so entity of the united states, and i think it's really important just to go back to history. people do need to understand the dispute project was on the 1st place to see how you project your wages to choose control you left jamaica united a market for you to us product and on the long run to the sold the story nation states. so the europe is actually expanding, though, is trying to expand, it's a fading project. people are dissatisfied. uh, and i think what we saw with the brick street is just the beginning, more copies before. and we see that the visions know is the 3 countries. we have

hungry, we have slow back yet, and we simply verse was based uprising. you had the some of the new device from. yeah, the uniquely actually decides a lovely evey directly spot the back. you said you either apologized. oh, you resign. and i think those are science that in europe, in the nato, there, at the visions. and i think we, we have some great thoughts that as she, it can be sustainable for europe and countries economically, but actual decisions. because people, if you were to do a surveys around you, up people up clearly nothing to state about this you, you couldn't walk these no supports. people are interested in tangible face. what do you mean by tangible? how much do i put on the table? can i put my kids to university? those are important things, these divided in control. the a project is not working anymore. people on the problem

is here is they, they can use ukraine is a national security issue that europe is threatening. then you cut you, you dismiss, so a civil liberties. you have a war economy. this serves a lot of different purposes except for helping ukraine. you know, david, one of the interesting, the top it in the last few days is that we had this early warning radar attacked inside of russia, which is extremely important for russians, nuclear deterrence, and the west. i mean deterrence is something that's what works both ways that has nothing to do with what's going on the battlefield in ukraine. that's why i'm asking, who's calling the shots here? because that's a nato's interest. it doesn't change the facts on the ground and a new crane david as well. it's because uh they always were like, same daddy's loses, it has lost the battle on, on the field. the farm is that it's because the fragmentation within nato became a very audience. it's, it's, it's slow cigarettes, it's, it's,

it's obvious to everybody. ukraine is done for that's one second thing is the idea that now what labor is going to be doing to stay relevant when in reality. now here's a relative clause, the best way on those is there is no use for nato anymore. we're now the problem is, in my opinion, is when you have voices like what just happened? yes. in paris, when math hall is saying, well wait a minute, we gotta live the restroom when, because of the if they do, that means we will be next. this is not there, but i propose no more, no less because they wanted to keep the ball rolling within the reality. nato's done for and rush up as to think strategically on the architect and strategically by now. go into into the sort of the preparation. if i may use the term or even a drill for the tactic, the next, because the conversation though is moving into,

are we gonna be, are we meaning nato in this case? are we going to be place in the next on the polish soil? yeah, no, i don't believe a rush. i wouldn't. all right, something that you're in anticipating one of my questions and i'll ask it now. topic is, is article 5 going to be tested before this conflict is over. because i said that from the get go in the beginning of this complex, eventually we're going to get there. go ahead topic. what is its test, right? then we have the 2 outcomes. one, is it phase and then they to is discredited in this office question, feel it, it's completely useless. it's useless anyhow. it's less that because less, but it uses lose a sense of sensations because on the actual, right? or it's not tested feel or very lucky. so here's why i think there's a possibility that it won't be tested in the end, and it has nothing to do with the west. and it has to do with russian behavior. because what we have seen during this construct on the russian side is

a very high degree of restraint. so on one side, russia is not bluffing. absolutely not how to be noticed because that's how we got into this escalated conflict. because at the end of 2021, they told us not to talk to you about settling this or something that's going to happen. visa? no, and something did that. that's where we are. no rush that's not bluffing. but on the other hand, we also have seen a very consistent pattern of rush or not taking bates right. so for instance, this attack on the radio station and maybe it was to attacks on some of the beta stations icing. this is the ukranian, ostentatiously demonstrative, launching a type of attack that speaks directly to one of the points of the 2020 degree. but it's about some precedent on van nuclear weapons could be used. yeah. but it might be cutting to, i'm sorry, cutting, but that would been an american decision, not a decision made in cube. right. the icing bowls as possible. i. it's something that they're doing together this the american citizen,

entirely possible agreement few or it is already work the dog and evey extreme for right? because ukraine also has shown a pattern of trying to drive its allies or sponsors deeper into the club. the reason why i say that teddy gave me, oh, ask a angelo this here. i mean, interestingly enough, a person that we hope had been long gone was victoria knew, and suddenly sconces arctic going back into the media. talking exactly about deep strikes and russia at the same time. and this early warning radar was hit a coincidence or, or what, angelo it's hard to say we, we, we making some speculation here. i try, i tried just to just start to look at the actions. there's lots of words, and i think of what they're doing. i have impression, especially when you look at my quote, i gave you an example of my close to the i want to send the 1000 soldiers. what guess what? yes, problem. sending a soldiers to you kind of don't, you know,

because yes, you're lympics the already fixed and on and on top just and you know, who is helping in your fix the, asking all the countries to send police man to help phrase fast doesn't, has the capacity in addition to that, we all know that need to those in the have, i mean, nation sufficient munition, because the metering does for complex ease coffee based just not purpose based. those guys, right, did the matrix that's a corpus has been a money laundering machine, not for making weapons for the fence. he wasn't for making money for the me during the so complex. and for all this cover, jump out in, in, in the, you know, it's really interesting. we, you know, way that when we talk about what's going on with neo liberalism, they financial ice everything including security gentlemen. and that's why they're in the position that are in right now. and it's something that they're going to have to pay for. again, asking the question why there has to be escalation. before we answer that question, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break,

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the welcome x across the dock were all things are considered computer labelle to remind you were discussing. you create the ok. it's go back to david in, in dallas, in the publication responsible state craft. uh, occasionally it has something worth reading and it did have, this was their main article or as we speak right now, posted may be at the door. why is biden ignoring the bell, which of course is being making a reference to a writer story, a couple of new cycles ago where the, the kremlin officials have made it clear that the russian side is interested in talks negotiations. no details given of course, but the door is cracked open as it were. if we can keep using that matter for the west has no interest in negotiations. why, david? it's a simple answer is that it will it minute,

it will. it means that the west has to admit it's the feet and they are not willing to upset. that's reality. because what this, what this conflict shows, it show the really the disparity between the strength or the rushing military and that of the west. how the west and institutions militarily speaking, as a former military myself, i can tell you, the west has no strength whatsoever to face the russian long. if we only read in history to understand the history over of the soviet union of the russia and kind of whatever we want to thought and how we went through and it was never defeated. i mean, most of us in the west here, i have no idea the world war 2 was one because of the soviet union, not the america, but, but this, i'm sorry, david, yesterday on monday of this week we had the president of the united states memorial day in the united states saying that they the united states, one world war 2 again. oh, all right, yeah, i'm agreeing with you i this is a, what does it say?

a revising that we have 3 in the front. yeah. americans are no good. what are their, their birth control? let's say 56 years ago. we're going down faster than that. we didn't even understand. hope is going now with the issue only in any way. it shows now the hardware, for example, the military hardware into west is in just barebones of what the russians have built. why? because the russians have developed and spend a lot of years in training, finish cohesiveness. there is more around the which are also david, one of the things they didn't go down the neo liberal path. they didn't, they were they, they have an integrated military, they make all of their stuff, all of their stuff. okay. look whats going on, let me go to the topic here. look what's going on. and ukraine. we get some of that . a little bit of french dressing here. we get a little ducks dressing there and you put it all together and you think it's good to work. i mean these people are out of their minds. okay. and,

and in hundreds of thousands of people are losing their lives because this thing just wasn't thought out. all they thought with the sanctions will crush the economy . they'll be a revolution here. and we'll have a colored revolution that's the depth of their thinking to go ahead and assemble. yes, i think i've said right, but one thing we have seen is, is less them fiasco. and that's what it is over the last 2 years. is that these guys never consider a plan b because they never think they need a plan. and the reason why they think they need know, plan b is that they consistently about consistently under estimate the advisory. but as of almost with less mistakes, you can obviously american geo politics hunt and bore and the thinking of the rest uh, but it can mobilize what it can do, but it can be the stand for the vision tend to stand and so on and so on. seems to be based on the most of all the exterior types. they simply act auto police for thinking of the problem is that never want to abandon it by now it's been apparently tested as you pointed out. sanctions have not at all worked. i prefer to

call it a good on my welfare. it's the most to be economic, both applied since the end of the cold war. and it is a complete failure. in fact, the russian economy, and specifically the russian boy economy has gotten strong goes the data is in, and the west has actually gotten beacon in several ways. they don't want to accept as they don't want to accept the failure. also we volunteered ukrainian condo fences with all these best america weapons that also they just don't computed. now where is this going to lead this inability to learn? and i think you all up. so the right, the problem here is the west is not yet ready to can see that it has lost it called the band of color into 1021 because that phones of western perspective. so richard s, as most for the afghans, was a mind how to feed and the could basically hide it away. then no, they cannot do this once. they have being defeated openly by russia. this is already happening. but this steven,

off the moment of truth the moment public would have to admit that, well, this isn't that i, but i think that we can have, i absolutely agree with you, but i think there's a coffee out here. i'll go to angel about this and, and it was just mentioned, afghanistan was just meant, well, that was a 20 year gripped, and a lot of people in a lot of money off that thing. that's why they wanted to keep it going. okay. it wasn't too when it wasn't the lose, it was to make a lot of task. okay. the same thing is happening with ukraine right now. i mean, you know, everybody who talks about a november elections and all that, these people are saying how much longer can we keep this group going? that's, i'm sorry, everything was said here is true, but we don't forget that. i mean, this is a, a cash cow angelo. what i think it's so it's important to keep in mind that the system of funding and you know, having a, a deep pocket to fact to fund one to them dollars a year. what's possible, as long as there was, there's a us dollar head gym on, you know, the problems that we are looking clearly. there's a detail, reputation happening around the world. many copies are actually bypassing the

dollar. they're treating their own currencies. and uh, as so gradually we may see this trend, and this will not allow the us to spend as much money. so i think so it's a, we need to because, or for the aspect have a big picture and looking at what is happening in terms of financing terms of exchanges in terms of actually p, but the, the, the center of gravity of the what the economy and the world always is shifting towards the east. you where these happening? what you look at the collective west is, are they the is what is it like 1520 percent of the of the of the was it is nothing . there's a whole world which is waking up out there, 80 percent of the world population. they've been the color nice down. i look that revised. very important. yeah. a lot of people get confused or confused. they think that the multiple, what would be the, the rest of the, what, what the multiple one wants to do is to go to the us and the collective west. it

was to collect the west, it becomes adults more rational, less emotional. there's a big door open because it's not about either you do uh, with us or against us. it's about how we can work together. and i dig a if we on the key, we might going to a transition where we have maybe a, some kind of bailouts. a big out of the wisdom economy is trying to find the compromises. but we don't go to war. no, i tell i, i'm sorry i am i the i don't, i don't see it happening either. i hang on just because heads, you must never give up. hedge funds never go to the go ahead and jump in. go ahead . i have one point of going to argument about good, this is i think to spot on. so the interest in enrichment to your right mean intend us to complex us going fet onto ukraine more. but there's one cabinet to your copier, which is these guys know how to get rich this out any given more. so like you could

imagine the future, let me put the lights as my trump becomes president, he actually stops this more. but this did run in massive profits ends. i'm going to turn to us through complexes and labeled under which simple to yvette is no be. it has to be ready for wind rush. i was going to attack us in 4 to 8 years. and when you look at best and rhetoric now in germany and other parts of you, this is actually what they're saying. they're not just talking about the covering for the already prepping the, probably to think of russia is long term secret against pitch. the need a long term game with russia has realized that if you look what's going on in their defense capacities and what they're doing now in cleaning up the defense ministry, they know this is long term. so it sounds like you, you're telling me that every time there's an election in, in america, we did john mccain. huh. a lot. i, i wouldn't have good luck but, but yes, it's fine. i mean, what, i, what actually actually if i'm a, if i'm, if they're jumping to do it,

that they did some true to that figuratively speaking. this is not washington operations. what do you think in terms of now this is why you are noticing the state department now, it is announcing when, when united, your a, to your bring in about your grant, this is about the upcoming elections. what's, what's the americans do not understand? is that the best sort of the, maybe to the complex has to be set up since the 1950s. being obsessive has always been to be involved in a conflict not joined or because we couldn't. but to drag the complex for as long as possible to make money, that's what was at the heart of it. now these sensors that the less you post on the russia backfire completely unexposed as, as little mention owns, the financial aspect is marked by on this web the, the upcoming bridge stomach into us on going to be in october of this year. my, my work is going to be a major announcements on the financial front. okay. which basic. okay. yeah. you're talking about

a common currency. yes. that's the big buzz right now. i've got my fingers crossed . i do. we're rapidly running on time. i. i um, angelo, they're the estonian president. uh, i'll order a congress. he said we will do everything possible to bring russia and put into their knees. and i read that and that reminded me of the film, the mouse that roared. and so the stony and president sound like he's the, he's from the duchy of grand fenwick. ok, i mean here's a little a sonya telling the whole world the about the power and, and resolve of the west. it seems almost comical. reading a, particularly from a tiny country like that. go ahead angela. well, peter, do you know how we cold then domestic states or cold? did she what was states? why? because when they say kindly, they don't have much power. but the, when they bought the make a huge noise and that's the bug states. they are absolutely ready. but the

interesting part is that there's a high selected up. so if you look at uh the, the parking space on the, my big, tiny. and they should be depending on the neighbors, russia, what did they do? i saluted them so from russia and i saw from china because they managed to make me out of china because they started with k one. that's just up. so i, i think it again, those elected leaders that was actually pre selected by be in the back in the, in the, what the economic for, and by the way, the not working for the country dealt one case against their own interest. it is time to jump and copy stuff. well, those lead the stuff working for the or the brain tree, but add to add to those leaders that this is what i, you know, with this the scholarship talks about the lead capture. you know, and only the bare buck she works for washington. she doesn't work for the german people. she's even said that we have an entire european class that has been subjugated by washington. and they don't give a hoot about their own people. and that is,

gives me reason to be optimistic because eventually people will get fed up about it . you know, losing an afghanistan didn't change the price of eggs in europe in america, losing in ukraine. will the right gentleman, that's just a desk. i, well, i'm a big, long winded here to make as all the time we have gentlemen, when i think my guess in hong kong is simple and in dallas. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. are to see you next time and remember across on the the valley her my little sister stores to the model girl to i got you. no problem seeing it. i'm out of the thing. 30 minutes. yes. out of the drive i showed my brother through he was trying to sell people for

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uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, you probably don't wanna watch it because it might just change the waiting thing. the struggle for germany using sanctions and select veiling for us military force. this is the struggle for passing here the russian foreign minister of slums. usaa tends to maintain a grip on world affairs of more western countries. equally seek to open the door for ukraine to use. there are long range weapons distract russia. holes have not just close in this, so it's not freaking election with the incumbent president. seeing here testing is valid. we break down a volt, considered to be the most evidence since the end of a part time on the us or just israel to do more to protect innocent