you know, terrorism, the whole issue of this, i have what is happening there and the collective goals in terms of free movement of people and all that well, there is every reason to try healed the rest with the deposit stays and success, lack of remaining elusive, most diplomats and, and then this over the past few months seemed quite convinced that the nations returning to the block having relationship with each other seemed very unlikely. but experts say one approach might be to seek agreements with alliance officer head in states upon a framework for peaceful, private taste and through sex. and if with been the lead is of both equity and the allies. my find ways to mitigate the home of the region and also the security and economy issues that the reason facing. right are to correspond to another way you can good. thank you for breaking that down for us. all right, do stay with archie international up next. the documentary series of trustful

covers, the gripping story of julia massage and the weekly controversy. the you for your courage and leadership and tenacity in journalism and published dixon victory logic. and it just just depends on it. the, the, the links using non state hospital intelligence service. i think the man,

as i talked her, a hard tech turner's to trainer a trainer. he has to answer for what he has done. assange trace it up to a 175 years in prison for publishing classified documents, exposing us for crime center rock and us grandstand. she has been detained since the 7th of december, 2010 in one form or another. and we are now here off the phone from prison. the

julian pool son was born in 1971 in town. the script australia, the in 2006, he found it was a non profit, major organization with the i'm to provide an in of a to secure anonymous way of facilities to leak information. the in april 2010, the organization came to international attention. when they released a video showing a war crime plus a us as a trade in iraq in may, 2010 private manning was arrested in charge of leaking classified documents to wiki leeks. including the video previously mentioned, the us diplomatic cables and reports that tend to be known as the afghan war diary and the rank war logs. in july of 2010,

they released an extraordinary compendium over 91000 internal u. s. military logs of the war in afghanistan, which revealed 195 previously on reported civilian depths. in august, 2002 global mainstream media published stories accusing julian, the son of raping to women in suite. in october, 2010 quickly released technologies, classified electricity industry. the rock wilcox these drugs revealed the dean denison previously henri, over 2 civilian tests in november, 2010 they published cable get the largest set of confidential documents ever released to the public, giving us an unprecedented insight into the us government's foreign activities. just 9 days later, assange was arrested as a london police station on

a european arrest for rent in relation to the swedish vacation. meanwhile, us officials confirmed to the start of an embassy in washington. the justice department was conducting an active vigorous inquiry into whether assigned could be charged under the us law. most likely, the espionage act. 2 weeks a, to these training and embassy in london advise the straining government that media reports of a secret grand jury in the us against which leads were likely true. on the 16th of december, the sage was released on bail, his passport was confiscated. he was under house arrest for the next 2 years, the enough and the 2011, the u. k. supreme court move this should be expedited to switch to face questionnaire. the application in june 2012 to avoid being taken into custody by

suite and an extra dated to the west. a sage took asylum in ecuador, and embassy in london. the in the 2nd half of 2016, the company contracted to provide security services at the embassy by the government of ecuador, begin assisting the caea and spying on a st agent as visitors in the embassy. they uploaded the security camera footage to an f t p server and gave a c. i a access to it in march 2017. when he leaves publishing fault 7, detailing the activities and capabilities of a c, i a to perform electronic surveillance and cyber warfare, through smartphones and other devices. it was the largest leak in the history of the c. i a in april 2017. the us said that it was an hour priority to arrest the sage. in august 2017. trump offer to sage a part if you would disclose who was responsible for leading democratic party e mails to weekly weeks before the 2016 us presidential elections assigned refused

to give a source in december 2017. the us government gave the u. k government, a sealed warrant for a st. joe's arrest in february, 2019 the ecuadorian government receive loans of $10200000000.00 from various multilateral institutions of which the us, the majority cheryl or the loans were provided with the agreement that the sage could be removed from the embassy. the in april, 2019 u. k. police entered the embassy of ecuador and forcibly carried julianna's sage out of the building and took him away in advance. on the same day, the us indictment against him was on sale. charging him with one counts of computer intrusion. he was sentenced to 50 weeks and bill mark prison. in the same month, sweden reopened the sexual assault investigation and the us filed 70 new charges against the in february 2020,

the extradition parent can supported criminal court. the in june 2022, the us department of justice issued update to to 18 count indictment every face trial in the us government. it would face a sentence of a 175 years in prison. in november 2020 sweden dropped the rape case. after reviewing the evidence on the 4th of january 2021 judge, correct sir. rule the sage could not be extradited due to his mental health and risk of suicide. you know, to the 2020 in a 2 day appeal, but the us u. k. churches save the us over to the decision not to expedite to search the day pool 2022, westminster magistrates quote,

formerly issued extra dykes and some 8 weeks later you. okay. set good. pretty battelle sign off on the, the, in june of 2023 london side court, just as jonathan swift rejected 2 separate applications made by a strangest lawyers to appeal his extradition. striking down all submitted grounds at the time of his from holdings. julian hassan is still being detained in definitely subject creek appointment in that marsh purse while he's legal to continue to appeal on his be off. oh, the most people have heard of him in relation to the swedish trump. right? melanie ations. and it's really important to, to debunk them to explain the role of media in

mischaracterizing the case and creating a sphere campaign. the, the swedish case, she's the one of the most anomalous crime investigation i have ever seen as a do. and then these 2 women went to the police for having julie in a sense, testing for sexually transmitted in this, the evidence was really manufactured and it turned out to be complete distortion of the actual situation where 2 women wanted him to get an h. i b test not to have him prosecuted in any way and they were distraught that he was being persecuted. the public understanding of these days was that a lot of people couldn't understand what was really going on. the u. n. a special

reported on thought took need semester. the leads are speak swedish, so she was able to read the funding and adding this additional documentation and to expose at the least for the the c evaluation some due process including active my new police. and i've already been, the case was open in 2000 and then is closing 2010 as the size these for the opening. 201010 steps the sea shelly open for 6 yards when he was finally question in november 2016. and the may 2017. the prosecute. the young me close the investigation and dismiss the case. and then when do nothing was arrested the in april, 2019, a new swedish prosecutor reopen the case, but of course, and it was already,

there was no case at all. so she closed the investigation once in full and that november 2019. and the when notice charges, you know, this case was disappearing many of the investigation dental was never ever charged for a. and i can assure you that if they had an added dental, they could have made definitely char gm. and the me get to the board came on friday . yeah. and they did that these days has been use to describe this is sort of condition is supposed to be a default because the public opinion offense and on that rape case, the never was, it was just part of this manipulated firestorm that was created in an effort to bring this knowledge down the lines, wait 2 weeks published votes did because of course,

targeted by the c i a, in the intelligence community. and part of that smear campaign was to pay which he leeks as a sorry, again, or a friend for austin power. i rushed to moore and report which investigated the trump russia saga, and found no collaboration between the trump campaign and, and russia exonerated with the leak. so there was 0 evidence that russia provided any leaks or information to wait 2 weeks. we should also be clear that wiki leads published over $700000.00 files on russia itself. when in d or what 2 weeks of julian from the, one of the arguments we hear about why doing a song should be targeted from those who believe you should design the somehow put people at risk. but what we've seen in more than 10 years now is

a complete failure by the us government to present any evidence of any concrete harm cause anybody at chelsea mannings trial at 4 b, which i attended was a charge was made that lives were put at risk in that trial, the prostitute had to admit that that was not true. the what is part of the visit that the employee would post that isn't the defense you of us and that in the word part, is it something deeper, more complex might be present? good. let's stop without teachers. let's go products. as they are probably higher my little story. okay. the model girl

that i got you. no problem seem to them out of the thing. 30 minutes. yes. out of the drive i showed my brother through he was trying to sell people for a lo so now i never looked at searches as being the same. well, i guess on my list that's the outcome of chicago police. it'd be gang chicago is like, you get pulled over the police, you lose your life as another crap thing. another this could have been a doctor. a nurse could have been the next president. we can't keep losing people out here the with us. and so even julie speaking to me is needed to copy math from the, from the rejection. so it would surround

a journalist. i needed something to distinguish as and i couldn't really get one except before i felt i felt opponents on keeping rebec according to being a more country position put in the final weeks. he had this material in his position, in the final weeks, the guiding and the new york times. and the spiegel became involved in processing and sifting through this material and had a great on the joint launch. the guy that went back to this, the tried to put a hold to it. so don't any one of them anyone that said delay was drawing this out and i was wasting absolutely wisdom and i'll say this in any course, certainly an american court. it was julian who tried to stop the release until that full reduction of been done from the 1st day to the early hours of monday morning to redact. the was with him and we were sharing the

problem. he rejected 10000 nice by himself, quickly released the state of the, on the, on the, to the main, not the sort of practice the listing. you know, less or to i am is as of a mix. so he would not, i am used to edit that was the, the fundamental works that the made the veteran inch of documents 5, there was $96.00 medium boxes, carefully rejecting the cables and to david lee hang lew, causing publish the password enable. he had a great sense of responsibility for the material for the souls who provided the material. and for the material itself, he went to great pains. he contacted hillary clinton to ask for help in

redacting names. hey, offered that to the us government and they declined the us military accounts of local informed was that they had they had given in some data that were kind of what was held a little bit into your law. why could not wondering whether you have found all of those, whether you know, or they have, if they have a particular code, does it what kind of within that within their thoughts, the big size is it can wasn't too hard. now does that said it is possible means of maybe maybe as 5 or 4 heroes firing for their choice and we are forced to make our choice. and those hard choices? do we do best effort to minimize tom, which we have done with the understanding that this is an ex, extraordinary body of material capable of producing extraordinary reforms?

so what i want to say to people looking at is how do you think a sound as a traitor has a rapist, he's a nurse whistles, she's a hacker. i don't blame you because you have been the seat. and if you think you've nothing to see, that's normal because otherwise you wouldn't be searching the what if everything we've talked with you about somebody was would we have some coverage to see through it with a fresh perspective? would we be willing to go on a new journey of understanding? this is the story of description. nice, great for me. if we take to bring to the

learn the redmond barry lecture theatre, which is where we had those who, the places and that's at the university of milton with julian is a student who was sitting here. there's a couple of us, i mean, kind of went to the elections together. there wasn't many actually students that had to cross over between physics, science, lod, someone's in politics and fluffy. so i was really lovely to engage with someone who was thinking about both of those things and how to marry up those kind of ideas of logic and political thoughts. that ability to one thing clearly critically from original perspectives and to, to have no fear and communicating them to think outside the box to think from a different angle is,

is clear that it was incredibly at the depth of that t, as in computers, as mazda head of i think where most of us, where with what we were learning and in science, and actually i think i had it on a lot of the computer science courses at the time that was at solar eclipse. and the office to go through and south is right, like a narrow window through the well may use of 2 in a night of as a cramped into a car. and we just went on the right. you joined, shed all bunch of is songs i did collected for modeling it with a bunch of amazing interesting science songs like home lira and then like $25.00 and only take like the mix of scientific music. music people who communicate in science concepts, really advanced physics concept gas as low as, as lower black electromagnetism. so you have an idea of when i have the theme and radium and gold and wonderful incredibly 90 but but lovely to be experienced to, to be introduced to

a metric. often we have conversations where we don't want to make anyone uncomfortable or embarrass anyone or call out something which will really identify audio cause some friction. but actually julia was really feeling us with it and he had no compunction. i got, you know, julian because i was part of an early internet can these here in melbourne. he was corky. a observer of people clearly very smart. she wasn't that interested in what people thought of him. part of that i think is a little bit of an autism spectrum and that he didn't notice it. one of the things of he became most interested in trying to address was the issue of corruption. you've seen a lot of corruption growing up in his tray. he had lived in a small town in queensland during the joe b o t, peterson era,

a time when people were passing brown paper bags of cash to police ministers. he is at heart, deeply and intellectual deeply sink, or he was very interested in corps route problems or things where does the system fall down at the foundation? corruption being something that the if it was fixed would have this kind of enormous flow on effect. it would reduce equity in society, poor people would be less poor. also there'd be just less of a sense of injustice across society. is such a super intellect that can pun through the information on. you know, i've never seen anybody so focused here just to help for a day just sort of racing through, you know, like a all day old and all not researching things. the way he came in to form when he leaves was a kind of a iterative process over time. like wine making, you know,

they had a lot of ingredients that'd be fine tuned. he had white boards that he'd rescued from tips. so his house had white boards in every room, some people of paintings or posters, football, and most of white boards were filled with things. sometimes they were equations. sometimes the equations were filled with just words and reflecting a mass medical language of a social phenomenon. and what he could see was the information was becoming transferable, coffee table at little to no cost in large quantities. and so that churning desire for the deeper social change, combined with these other overlays, enabled by technology, i think just mentioned everything came together at the right moment for him. my 1st contact with his wife on june sent me an email describing something

senses project he had in mind working. so the idea was to put out secrets classified secrets of coverage. and that seemed to me extremely unlikely that you could really circumvent the national security agency. what julian's idea was before he likes was that maybe we don't need to go through our mainstream journalistic channels. there's an ability that encryption can gives you if it's done in the right way to allow protection of that information to say on the really valuable source or really valuable piece of information. it's a really courageous, powerful concept that the website could facilitate anonymity of sources that have information that could expire on doing by governments, corporations, whoever it might be. walked with key makes did was not to create the citizens of

the world like general, which is how the politicians create, the they commit the crimes they do misdeeds, but never in front of the general and don't let the trip one find out what we're really doing. doing is to talk about the logo, vicky legs. when is it setting it up and it's like an hour glass and this to well just one on the top and one on the bottom. the 1st swelled dripping down with leaking into the 2nd world, and he said, oh, this is, this is a little bit of, of what the world we could make. a well informed by the lakes of the previous world of corruption. and if those lakes in phone or other we'd like to make it will make it a better place. and in some sense here, the l boss is there is some eligibility to it that people and they sustain corruption and wrong doing for so long before they, they feel a need to expose it to them. they pay that much blade and the media is completely

manipulative. and controlled and more so now than ever before. and so into this one game, we see leaks the disclosure about the single greatest route expanding verizon is you are telling your friend what's up for peaceful fortune police. and as for your phone part of the law, just protecting machine, well the reference of the, the, the,

it, as long as it was just written documents on you'll see the united states is very, very welcome sleep. me. freak them out. was when wiki leaks managed to get hold of the video archive and video footage of action killings carried out by the united states in both of the, in iraq during the iraq war. the,

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