so what that means is stalled watts my shell stay main street because i'm probably going to make you comfortable. my show is called stretching time. but again, you probably don't want to watch it because it might just change the way inside the the hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things are considered on peter lavelle. we are told the by the administration won't change it support for israel, even in light of the recent wrap, a massacre. there are no red lines, only empty words. the international community is rallying to the palestinian cause . meanwhile, the us stands alone in isolation. the

processing power sign, i'm joining by my guess. lionel in new york is illegal and media analyst in seattle . we have ramsey my road. he is a palestinian author and journalist and in bay we crossed as the bug grille. lopez . he is a news this editor for the cradle or a gentleman, cross talk girls in effect. that means he can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate line. and let me go to you 1st here, john kirby, this spokesperson for the national security establishment for the bite administration. said he was offended by a question that included how many more char babies will it take for the bite in administration to consider his policy. he's offended is that was the only thing to be offended about as we watch all this unfold. how out of touch are these people because i was offended, but he could be offended by a question that reflect like reality go ahead line. well, one of the many of us and the world are offended by charged babies and charged

people. so we're on the same page. if you think about this, you know, what's interesting, a gentleman is that this past week, it, it occurred to me that in a conversation, you know, anybody can win an argument. if nobody ever pushes back. if you're, if you have a debate and your team, your, your opponent just listens. nothing will ever change. that's what's happening right now. i live as i told you in the 1st bull, what we're talking about right now. i guarantee was not known or cared about by 90 percent of the people in my country. and i would say western, we use the word red line, red line has been used to death. i think the administration said we do not want another 30000 on another. does that mean that short of that? when i year, when i see the politicians signing autographing missiles like it did in, in world war 2 like a day later, you nicky,

hey i, i, i'm thinking myself, i'm in a, it's me, i'm in a parallel universe because i can't believe does anybody not realize what's happening here, there's no records, so i'm offended by a myriad of topics. yeah, around 0 and it's really quite interesting. the biden's peer. well, i think it costs like $360000000.00 is a. it's all broken up and it's gone to sure. here i think it's a good metaphor for his entire policy. it's broken, it was never thought out, and it just basically based on lies and deceit. go ahead. as i've said it would be, but just one very quick thing. just commenting on what our friend then they'll have to say, you know, like, oh, i love you and i love everything you have to say, but i have to disagree with you on this one. i don't think that there is a massive change happening even in the united states. finally, finally, i know that there was a group of kids in the city of seattle where i live at the moment. who decided to

do just a simple process, downtown, seattle, on instagram. i attended it and it was the i was in. so people restaurant owners, people, taurus, the streets, shooting replete on his bike. i have been in this country for 25 years in the city for 25 years. i have never seen anything like this. so i think it's the nic is here . it is of this world who are becoming isolated then it has supposed i actually liked it when she did what she did. i, you know, it shows what the most though she is a human being. but a lot of americans are just pausing and asking the question, how is this ok, how was lindsay ramos asking for a bomb to be dropped a nuclear bumped to be dropped over going as well. ok, so a lot of americans, i think developing this, what you were talking about earlier, this new consciousness. that's 3 the indicates that there is a major ship happening among ordinary americans. and i think this is gonna continue for the coming period. as for the question of pierre, from the very beginning,

we said that this is an american attempt at depriving palestinians or the last line of defense and that is dropped off. and that's exactly what happened. but luckily, even that little sham of theirs is not working. they're saying the weather broke it down, all those things is one of the ships gap size or whatever. so there is some sort of a, again, that the americans that play. and by the way, until now, not a single, but it's to me and a has been fed as a result of this american project. yeah, not as the city of a 160 h a, a trucks worth of fort been taken from the, the peer somewhere. they disappeared. nobody knows what, how to move. we don't, we, this is not going to go anywhere any well, or maybe there were people i is rarely protesters the soiled it and threw it away like we've seen so many of the videos. okay. these are civilians that are given military protection to deny basic needs for the palestinian people, which is against international law. and it's in violation of the genocide

convention of savannah. you know, one of the, another big story that we had in the last few days is that massage was a stocking and intimidating the former prosecutor of the i, c c. now i never been a big fan of the i c c. but this, this stocking and threatening a judge is mafia tactics and basically, and again it's my own opinion here that we see the mafia behavior in the media of the mafia behavior in congress. we see them off the behavior of too many people in the western alliance and, and, and western europe. this is, there's a lot of mafia behavior going on here and it's being exposed. go ahead. opposite of some of these being a bit exposed by the 30 days themselves. right. because uh, i don't want, i echo what uh, what, what would we mean say so far that we are at this moment seeing a complete clash between what it's supposed to be. it's are nice what i love, what do you suppose to be, you know, basic human decency and whatever the,

where is the, you know, whatever the us government spouse, whatever the cy on these, the institutions just bought over there. and the same thing with the i c, c persecution. well, you know, cutting kind of prosecutor said himself that on the elected western of bishop all them that the h i. c. c is only meant for africa box like booking. and i think about says that all right, we are leaving in a current the reality in which there are laws for psalm and then last for others, right? there obviously pushes for some of the institutions for others. and even with these, uh, these for ridiculous thing with the, with the gas up here. right. and there's absolutely no sense in opening up something like that. a, creating spending $320000000.00 when there are 7, perfectly, a good operating a blog crossings. if the guy said i couldn't allow hundreds of trucks to enter every single day, what is expected needed, but there's another space doesn't want to see that drive. they want to help is wrong, maintain permanent control of gas,

and that extends to the political persecution that the i c c judges. and i'm pretty sure so not the i c j. now i'll just say i going to be facing because why? because they, they're ask the question that easy to all of. busy our minds which these are the us and these are all of all international law. that's it. that's the question that is being asked right now. line. oh, you know, i'm a new, i still call it twitter. a new hash tag that's trending is never biden. and of course, it's because of his policy and primarily his policy on palestine within his own party. people that saying he's not doing enough in the other thing, he's doing too much. okay. i mean, what i or need in, in for someone that has been very high and in the lobbies donations biden is uh, yeah, i repeat what he's so as go ahead line. oh yeah i, i must go back and i say that please. dear god or whoever, i hope i'm wrong. there is

a blood brain barrier that sometimes have to remember that what we think gentlemen, are not necessarily what everybody thinks. yes, there are pockets. i don't want to belabor the point there are pockets and that the more show dare i say, piers morgan a go if this mean, if this means anything you don't like it will be j supposedly said, you know, when you bloss piers morgan, you've lost middle america but, but there is something and i came across this on the x or twitter, and i, would you, peter, i even still use album. so that's my particular frame of reference. but there are pictures that are when you talking about, insinuated babies they show them. and if i could somehow make, if i could somehow whatever this, this barriers to let the american people know what we're talking about. if they saw this, like they did during the period in vietnam, when they said, do you mean that what's been going on? it would change everything because there is

a strangle hold on information right now more than ever. and they are hoping beyond hope that people do not see the reality of this one more thing is an interesting talk about contradictions. we want it international court even applied to vote, but out of it applies to us. and then we say the incredible technological facility of israel. however, how many times if they said, oops, my bad made a mistake. sorry. yeah. jose address, sorry warriors, how the for, you know, the fault of war, what you're going to be, and then people often time just not and say, well, whatever, as they move on to the next story, i hope that is coming to an end. well remedy they mean if you look at the genocide conventions. yeah. biden blank and sullivan all the rest of them, their their toadies in europe. they, they are comfortable under the same convention. and i think the beginning to realize that because the, again, i'm not a big booster of the i c. c,

but the icpc is moving. we have the international criminal court. this that's also preceding, this is serious business. and i think people in the west leaders in the west were beginning to realize that they could get caught up into this web ramsey that i think i think what the carry him sign has done to everyone by surprise honestly. because i mean, 54 people were indicted by or arrest warrants were issued for 54 people worldwide says that the court has started. 40 of them are africans, the vast majority of them are from the global cell. so this is of course, this is, this is why they were taken by surprise. that said i c, c should have moved much earlier considering the patrick that that decision that was created, cutting and cutting knows exactly what's happening because i, he came to the pot more there used to he's so what's going on on the other side, he knows exactly what's happened? it's belated, but it's better late than never. but the question is, is,

are the america's actually complicit, or are they directly involved from the very beginning. i've made the, the argument that the americans are directly involved, yukon, give this much money. that's right. you cannot sustain this war from the very start and just the polite provide every political, every legal, every moral justification of to do what's doing and know you are present in gaza. the delta force has been in an out of gauze that the year means that the americans are in garza. they are within then it's a room area which is controlled by as well in gaza. the americans read rather the whole over how to get a hold that thought, my friend, we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine. stay with our team. the modern pragmatics world of smartphones and tech upgrades. our terminal crafts and

hand painted traditions of yesteryear seemed to be fading away, project and stuff outside of the bustling metropolis of moscow. and you'll find that traditional russian culture is still going strong. the the welcome back across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle, germaine. you were discussing palestine. the let's go back to us about in bay road. you know, this one phrase gives me hope and it gives me a sense of dread at the same time. and it's the 2 state solution which, you know, that's the, the fallback position that everyone talks about in mainstream western media, corporate media here. but of course we know that the current prime minister of

israel and nothing. yeah. who has been a in friday, the israel will never support that biden's minions come out and say that is the goal and all that and, and it doesn't take a whole lot to see. well, what kind of a farce are we going through here? if the administration that is funding and giving diplomatic support for this genocide, i just think that it can't get its way. then. then what is the, the, what kind of legal protections that do the binding ministration have when pursuing his policies? cuz obviously it's not going to work if it's partner isn't willing to do this, go ahead and be with as well. exactly. you know, israel themselves, i've been the 1st to say we will never approve about 2 state solution. because 1st of all, the 2 state solution would have to include the west back at delta by was bank and is yours on the policy and copied though, let's not forget that the us in 2020, i believe recognize these are some of these really copied. also they would have to back track on that and then all of us on the road would have to clear out all of

these hundreds of westbank settlements that are just chunk of a stream is similar groups that are used to just, you know, burn down probably steamy on villages stuff a issue. the policy has killed him with complete impunity. it's all 1st of all the starting over there. that's simply not going to happen. you know, it's a, it's a, it's a pipe dream and he's that ridiculous and it statement that it keeps being repeated by european leaders by the us. i see if it's something that would actually resolve the problem. and by that, keep talking about over the form of a see me and authority. what does that even mean? and how can the publish the end of the all righty, which palestinians themselves do not trust the not, the not considered to have any legitimacy. how can they be that was needing, leading any palestinian government writing needs to be an actual need, their one, they want it there to be a publish thing in the state. it needs to be 1st of all independence, and it needs to be led by all palestinians, not just by the ones that are willing to work alongside israel, so that simply not,

not the way out of these the way out of these use for each row to to for these writing the, for the scientists project to be on the, or these to be on don for probably his time to read it, to regain all of these very sorry. and then you know, all of these really serious as will want to remain there to remain there. right. uh they will have all of the productions moving along side, but we just say add s the boxes, esteban, there's even a simpler solution they can apply for palestinian citizenship. okay. and that, that's one way also to do that. okay. i don't understand why i owe for 75 years. it's a minix the accepted bid. palestinians must become zine as well. white. why can some jews become palestinian citizens? okay. it works both ways. okay. you're like, oh is it as we go towards the election here? and i already talked about the never bite and movement. it's very interesting. i mean, i agree with you. there's like, it's this whole story is a control controlled. i burn,

sorry for the metaphor here about how americans are supposed to consume this, but fewer a few people watch cable tv. i don't watch it anymore. it's a waste of time. okay. there's so many other good sources of information out there . and you brought up peers, morgan for your peers market just shows the farce of this duplicity. he does it for us. okay. because he's not very smart and he just looks at headlines and he throws in. well, he's not okay. i mean, it's a tabloid guy. that's what he is. all right. but he brings on some pretty interesting people and they just show it back into his face. he really doesn't know what to do about it. go ahead line. oh, well, a couple of things here, hearkening back a gentleman to 911. there's one thing i've learned that i can only speak about the fishbowl. we don't want to hear a lot of specifics about names, and who is it is a ppo a. but that was in a variety of her minds and the guys already, we don't wanna hear about this. give her something like terrorism outside. that's it. that will do it. now we just say how much?

and what somebody will say is, we don't care, we're how much is now, what does that mean? that means that if we, if there is one hint if, if, if 2 hamas leaders, or perhaps it kept saying in a 10 somewhere where ever they are, wherever they are, that gives us cardboard to eliminate them. now that it sounds spacious, but to most people you mentioned to kaylee. okay, that sounds good enough because we have to on do this as though it is a place as though what does it seem as though there was a headquarters with uniforms and chevrons in a general and a leader? somebody said, what time, years ago the fighting terrorism is a trying to catch smoke with your hands. sounds great, but as long as these terms are used and as long as i'm sorry, but as long as the wrong people don't understand that there are human beings involved in this. this will continue, but i've never felt more hopeful than i do right now. they have to say to me,

are there absolutely right, let me, let me go to ramsey right now they can use all of the labels they want. but when you see a disfigured child a chart, baby, all those labels go out the window because any decent human being is horrified by and it would makes it more horrible. is it? it can be stopped. ok, it can be stopped. go ahead and say, ramsey. and i think it's, there is, we are the custom of a historic moment, not only because of the change that is happening regarding the perception of palestine, not because of the way that's even older the people now st. palestinians have the right to resist and do to defend themselves. i've never thought that that moment was even possible in my lifetime. but something else is also happening. we are challenging mainstream media. it's used to be something that we did in theory. we used to talk about it as an academic possibility, but now mainstream media is being sideline in favor of a different type of media with

a social media independent media. people are communicating industry, it's sending emails and news visits and every other way we have actually managed to change the global consciousness around pad is going using a completely different medium of communication. aside from that very tightly controlled mainstream corporate media. and i don't think that they would be able to reverse this because it's a whole different upper right. this that's been at work for years and years and years and i think is going to pay off. it's in fact it is already paying on in, in regarding goals that part of scott, i think it's only going to accelerate. okay. because a in the, this whole of the, the genocide is actually just another issue that so many people feel marginalized with because of neo liberalism in this is given the younger generation, something they need to break the shackles. i mean, they lie about this, then they probably are lying about just about everything else, which of course they are as about inmate route,

as we all know that the spade norway, in ireland recently recognized palace of palestine as a state. oh, little late, you know, and but better late than never, i mean a 140 other countries that were ahead of them. but of course this, these, these are american satellites. so this is an important to but the, the is really president cods turned around and basically said these are anti semitic countries. how does that work anymore? i asked this question mouth and this program being accused of anti semitism. yeah, that's a pretty nasty thing to be accused of, but of course it is banned either about without any real meaning it's just a, a slower go ahead. it's 100 percent, you know, use that without any meaning at this point. but suddenly we, you are seeing that even now in you as always, being and try. and as i said, this is also a preexisting will be used for right now, you cannot read this idea. no, because all of a sudden you're, you're on by segment, right? you guys are really psyched that us government all your life, but you guys don't there be criticizing israel and i think this is really, you know, like i, we, we are reaching

a point the history that are there is no turning around. there is no. busy back there is no putting the junior back into bottles right anymore. right. and the, i think, uh, you know, it went in these old things to, well, the fact that we are currently connected all the time. right. um, we are seeing a lot of these massacres were seeing like these attacks on our phones. we do not need cnn. we do let me fox news. we will not be the 10 mean news network l is what has happened and we can see it or sales. and i think that has been big game changer, right? the democratic sation of information and of course there's always gonna be that they have to silence it like a calling. anyone with theirs, criticized. these are all non by semis, but that seem to doesn't have to wait. it does a used to have anymore. i would imagine in the west maybe i'd be more right. uh if people who, who is employers, maybe it may be willing to fire someone for being a non fi, same i. but other than that is just, you know, empty thought that the spine is empty. rhetoric and he's sadly, even the jewish population out there you go. with that, he's realizing that the, the western governments are using their jewish, their joyousness a rather uh they,

the fact that are chose to justify change the site to just the fire war machine to justify the mass murder of children. and of course they don't want that. what do you want that? what was the one that your identity to be types of genocide, you know, line or you know, you over the years you and i have made lights of the younger generation with some of their attitudes and, and lifestyles, etc, etc. but i, i, i were a very god said to been so younger generation of folks and, you know, and thank goodness for young american jews they, they, they were showing the side of judaism, that is real and not designed as crime that they want design this want to wrap them all into a under one umbrella with and they're telling us that is not true. and i think that is a huge change for consciousness in american jews have stood up for the right thing and i'm very proud of them. go headlines. you know, i do ever awhile back quite a bit. but he mentioned salo lensky, all of a sudden over 90 was like, that's

a typical salo lensky movie. go for the how would follow lensky? well anyway, he became the, the, the patriarch of, of all things left as well. i wouldn't be the salo inskeep, and here's my number one rule. if you are an anti semite, if you are a racist pray as much as you can said, they use the word racism and anti semitism to the point where it gets such metals as he said, it becomes meaningless. and then you can move in. it's like reducing resistance to bacteria with anybody out of the word means nothing. so if there ever is true anti semitism, if there is a racism, nobody, there is. how are you doing that? again? it goes, no, no this, i mean it, this time is cry wolf. lastly, did you notice how harvard university for the 1st time this week said we're not going to be involved in any kind of matters of concern? so what it and your friends, when you, you what, yes, we figured a way around as we here, bye. are going to pull back and not be involved because you've got donors,

you've got students and just students aren't budging at all. they are, they're having diplomas. and and, and um, i guess, uh, the problem is withheld. a risk of such, so young people, i'm with you peter. this is the spirit of that 6 these. they love it, and the more you push against them, the more they fight back, which makes me, yeah, but you know, but one line where, you know, what's really interesting is that this is a moral cause. okay. we're not talking about artichokes or inflation. we're talking about what, because when i watch all this i'm, i'm losing my own humanity in this. the program i have here across stock is a way for me to say it's not we, it's all look at this and with honestly and not lose our heart humanity. and i think that's what's most important gentleman so much to discuss. but so little time, i want to thank my guests in new york, seattle, and be rude. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our team. so your next time and remember prospect rules.

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