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as for each cow, so that he is convicted of up to a 136 years in prison for falsifying business records, filing paper work incorrectly, people are looking at this case and saying, what comes next? this is certainly unprecedented in american politics. never has a former president of the united states been convicted of a felony. well, we also spoke with a former professor in the criminal justice school of the city university of new york. down the show is of the view. donald trump's trial is nothing but political persecution to declare is less than we can do arise from this political gossip in this political trump stormy daniel. so bought for this, played out over a few years now, is that the democrats are so weak. they can even be a truck in a straight up election. so their strategy, their plan b, if you will, has been to try to jim up trump in different court cases. they've done everything
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to be smart and she is name. but the truth is that the name of american democracy is so discouraged in the american people to not trust the system. they know the main stream media is full of lies. so to me, this really reflects more than anything the absolute desperation of the democratic party. i think this is just a massive distraction and i think shame on the american media apparatus, shame on so many people in the us as a genocide continues to push for the colonial genocide against the native people of palestine. this is what we're worried about, who donald trump had consensual intercourse with. i think it speaks to the low level of intelligence and the generally low level of culture that we have here in the united states is no question. this is a political prosecution. this is completely designed to distract the american
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populace, is the politicize ation of the quote unquote adjust the system of the judicial system, the spike condemning some of israel's actions in the gals of war. the u. s. continues to send weapons to their allies for use and it's in patient next peter and gas discuss how long washington can keep talking out of both sides of it's not some cost on the the the
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hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered on peter level? we are told the by the ministration won't change its support for israel even in light of the recent rock, the massacre. there are no red lines, only empty words. the international community is rallying to the palestinian cause . meanwhile, the us stands alone in isolation, the cross talking palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal and media analyst in seattle. we have ramsey, my route. he is a palestinian author and journalist and in bay we crossed as the bug grille. lopez . he is a news this editor for the cradle or a gentleman, cross talk girls and the fact that means he can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate line and let me go to you 1st here, john kirby, this folks person for the national security establishment for the bite administration said he was offended by a question that included how many more char babies will it take for the bite in
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administration. to consider his policy, he's offended it. is that what the only thing to be offended about as we watch all this unfold? how out of touch are these people because i was offended, but he could be offended by a question that reflect like reality go ahead line. well, one of the many of us and the world are offended by charge babies and charged people. so we're on the same page if you think about this, you know, what's interesting, a gentleman is that this past week, it, it, it occurred to me that in a conversation, you know, anybody can win an argument if nobody ever pushes back. if you're, if you have a debate and your team, your, your opponent just listens. nothing will ever change. that's what's happening right now. i live, i told you in the 1st bull, what we're talking about right now. i guarantee it was not known or cared about by
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90 percent of the people in my country and i would say western we use the word red line, red line has been used to death. i think the administration said we do not want another 30000 on another. does that mean that short of that when i hear when i see the politicians sighing autographing missiles, why did didn't in world war 2 like a day later? you nicky, hey i, i, i'm thinking myself, i'm in a, it's me, i'm in a parallel universe because i can't believe does anybody not realize what's happening here? there is no recourse. so i'm offended by a myriad of topics. yeah, around 0 and it's really quite interesting. the biden's peer, when i take it costs like $360000000.00 is a, it's all broken up and it's gone a sure here. i think it's a good metaphor for his entire policy. it's broken. it was never thought out,
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and it just basically based on lies and deceit. go ahead. as i've said it would be, but just one very quick thing. just commenting on what our friend then they'll have to say, you know, like, oh, i love you. and i love everything you have to say, but i have to disagree with you on this one. i don't think that there is a massive change happening even in the united states. finally, finally, i know that there was a group of kids in the city of seattle where i live at the moment, who decided to do just a simple approach as downtown seattle on instagram. i attended it and it was the i was in some people restaurant owners, people, taurus, the streets shooting v pottis' like i have been in this country for 25 years in the city for 25 years. i have never seen anything like this. so i think it's, the nick is here, it is of this world who are becoming isolated then it has supposed i actually liked it when she did what she did. i, you know, it shows what the most though she is a human being. but a lot of americans are just pausing and asking the question,
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how is this ok, how was lindsey graham asking for a bomb to be dropped a nuclear bumped to be dropped over going as a. okay, so a lot of americans, i think developing this, what you were talking about earlier this new consciousness. that's 3 the indicates that there is a major ship happening among ordinary americans, and i think this is gonna continue for the coming period. as for the question, yeah, from the very beginning we said that this is an american attempt at depriving palestinians or the last line of defense and that is dropbox. and that's exactly what happened. but luckily, even that little sham of theirs is not working. they're saying the weather broke it down, although things they said one of the ships capsized or whatever. so there is some sort of a, again, that the americans that play. and by the way, until now, not a single person, and it has been fed as a result of this american project. yeah,
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not a single person in a 160 h a. a trucks worth of wouldn't been taken from the, the peer somewhere. but they disappeared, nobody knows what, how to move. we don't, we, this is not going to go anywhere and it, well, a, maybe there were people i is rarely protesters that spoiled it and threw it away. like we've seen so many of the videos. okay. these are civilians that are given military protection to deny basic needs for the palestinian people, which is against international law. and it's in violation of the genocide convention of savannah. you know, one of the, another big story that we had in the last few days is that massage was a stocking and intimidating the former prosecutor of the i, c c. now i never been a big fan of the i c c. but this, this stocking and threatening a judge is mafia tactics and basically, and again it's my own opinion here that we see the mafia behavior in the media, the mafia behavior in congress. we see them off the behavior of too many people in
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the western alliance and, and, and western europe. this is, there's a lot of mafia behavior going on here and it's being exposed. go ahead. opposite of some of these being a bit exposed by the they're all 3 of these themselves. right? because uh, i don't want to, i, but what uh, what, what we've been said so far that we are at this moment of seeing a completed clash between what it's supposed to be international already supposed to be, you know, basic. so you might decency, in whatever the, where is the, you know, whatever the us government spouse, whatever the cy on these, the institutions is bought over there. and this whole thing with the i c, c persecution. well, you know, cutting time, the prosecutor said himself that i'm elected. western of bishop told him that the ac i, c. c is only meant for africa and folks like booking. and i think about says that all right, we are living in a current the reality in which there are laws for psalm and then last for others rather obviously pushes for some of the institutions for others. and even with
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these, uh, these for ridiculous thing with the, with the gas up here. right. and there's absolutely no sense in opening up something like that. a, creating spending $320000000.00 when there are 7, perfectly, a good operating a blog crossings. if the guy said i could allow hundreds of trucks to enter every single day, what is exactly needed, but there's another space doesn't want to see that the right they want to help ease from maintain permanent control of gas and that expense to the political persecution that the i c c judges and i'm pretty sure so not the i c j. yeah, i'll just say i going to be facing because why? because they their ask the question that easy to all of. busy our minds which these are the us and these are above international law that's. that's the question that is being asked right now. line. oh, you know, i'm a new, i still call it twitter. a new hash tag that's trending is never biden. and of course, it's because of his policy and primarily his policy on palestine within his own
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party. people that saying he's not doing enough in the other thing, he's doing too much. okay. i mean, what iron need the in, in for someone that has been very high and in the lobby's donations biden is, uh, yeah, i repeat what he's so his go ahead line. oh yeah. i, i must go back and i say that please. dear god or whoever, i hope i'm wrong. there is a blood brain barrier that sometimes have to remember that what we think gentlemen, are not necessarily what everybody thinks. yes, there are pockets. i don't want to belabor the point. there are pockets, and i think more so dare i say peers more days though. if this means, if this means anything, you don't like it will be j supposedly said, you know, when you've lost peers, morgan, you've lost middle america. but, but there is something and i came across this on the x or twitter and i'm with you peter. i even still use album, so that's my particular frame of reference,
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but there are pictures that are when you talking about incinerated babies. they show them and if i could somehow make, if i could somehow whatever this, this barriers to let the american people know what we're talking about. if they saw this, like they did during the period in vietnam, when they said, do you mean that what's been going on? it would change everything, because there is a strangle hold on information right now more than ever. and they are hoping beyond hope that people do not see the reality of this one more thing is an interesting talking about contradictions. we want it international court even applied to post, but out of it apply to us. and then we say the incredible technological facility of israel, however, how many times if they said oaks my bed made a mistake. sorry, yeah. jose andras, sorry warriors how, you know, the fault of war,
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what you're going to be and then people often times just not. and say, well whatever, as they move on to the next story, i hope that is going to be doing a well remedy. they mean, if you look at the genocide conventions, yeah, biden blinking sullivan, all the rest of them, their their toadies in europe. they, they are comfortable under the same convention and i think the beginning to realize that because the, again, i'm not a big booster of the i c. c. but the icpc is moving. we have the international criminal court. this that's also preceding, this is serious business and i think people in the west leaders in the west were beginning to realize that they could get caught up into this web ramsey that i think i think what the carrying son has done to everyone by surprise, honestly, because i mean 54 people were indicted by or arrest warrants. what issues are 54 people worldwide says that the court has started. 40 of them are africans,
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the vast majority of them are from the global self. so this is, of course, this is, this is why they were taken by surprise. that said the i c. c should have moved much earlier considering the paddick that that decision that was created cutting him son knows exactly what's happening because i, he came to the bottom. oh, there used to he's. so what's going on and the other side. he knows exactly what's happened. it's belated, but it's better late than never. but the question is, is, are the america's actually complicit, or are they directly involved from the very beginning. i've made the, the argument that the americans are directly involved. you can't give this much money. that's right. you cannot sustain this war from the very start and just the polite provide every political, every legal, every moral justification is way up to do what's doing and know you are present in gaza. the delta force has been in and out of gauze that the p are means that the
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americas are in garza, the or we didn't. then it's a room area which is controlled by as well. and garza, the american dread rather the whole overhead to get you hold that thought, my friend, we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine. stay with our team, the the, the, or the
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as a result of why it was can be started by lines. these can be expanded by true importance of we can never be kind of a station so that transparency is next 40 range on mystic trees. then just succeeded in finding documents that existed in making them available to the world public. i mean, what could be more moving box by publishing information and sharing information with the public. he was exercising the rights for a speech he did. so in the public interest lies and smith and dalton and louis slated to relate to seriously, i know why advice may know who is the guy that illegal
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anymore wisely bought. adjustments for to be on box weighing a 175 used to go through the sentence. are we going to let that stay the welcome back across stock were all things are considered computer level to and you were discussing palestine. the this is go back to us about in bay road, you know, this one phrase gives me hope and it gives me a sense of dread at the same time. and it's the 2 state solution which, you know, that's the, the fallback position that everyone talks about in mainstream western media of corporate media here. but of course we know that the current prime minister of
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israel and nothing. yeah. who is its been um, uh inside the israel will never support that biden's minions come out and say that is the goal and all that and, and it doesn't take a whole lot to see. well, what kind of a farce are we going through here? if the administration that is funding and giving diplomatic support for this genocide, i just think that it can't get its way. then then what is the, the, what kind of legal protections that the, by the ministration have when pursuing his policies? cuz obviously it's not going to work if it's partner isn't willing to do this, go ahead and be with as well. exactly. you know, israel themselves have been the 1st to say we will never approve about 2 state solution. because 1st of all, the 2 state solution would have to include the west back and delta by was bank of 10 is yours, the name of the policy and copy though, let's not forget that the us in 2020, i believe recognize these are some of these reading copies also, they would have to back track on that and then all of us on the road would have to
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clear out all of these hundreds of westbank settlements that are just a big stream is similar groups that are used to just, you know, burn down probably see me on villages stuff. a issue that probably seen has killed them with complete impunity. it's all 1st of all the starting over there. that's simply not going to happen. you know, it's a, it's a, it's a pipe dream and he's that ridiculous and it statement that it keeps being repeated by european leaders by the us. i see if it's something that would actually resolve the problem and by that can talking about are for the form of a see me and authority. what does that even mean? and how can the publish the end of the all righty, which palestinians themselves do not trust the not the not considered to have any legitimacy. how can they be that was needing, leading any palestinian government writing needs to be an actual need, their one, they want it there to be a probably staying in the state. it needs to be 1st of all independence, and it needs to be led by all, probably spinning is not just by the ones that are willing to work alongside israel, so that simply not,
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not the way out of these the way out of these use for israel to, to, for these reading the, for the scientists project to be on the, or these are the, to be on gone for probably his time to read it, to regain all of these very sorry. and then you know, all of these really serious as will want to remain there the remainder, right? uh, they will have all of the productions moving along side. we just say add s the boxes, esteban, there's even a simpler solution. they can apply for palestinian citizenship. okay. and that, that's one way also to do that. okay. i don't understand why i owe for 75 years. it's a big it accepted that palestinians must become zine as well. white. why can some jews become palestinian citizens? okay. it works both ways. okay. your line. oh is it as we go towards the election here? and i already talked about the never bite and movement. it's very interesting. i mean, i, i agree with you. there's like, it's this whole story as a control controlled. i burn, sorry for the metaphor here about how americans are supposed to consume this,
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but fewer a few people watch cable tv. i don't watch it anymore. it's a waste of time. ok. there's so many other good sources of information out there. and you brought up peers, morgan for your peers market just shows the farce of this duplicity. he does it for us. okay. because he's not very smart and he just looks at headlines and he throws in. well, he's not okay. i mean, it's a tabloid guy. that's what he is. all right. but he brings on some pretty interesting people and they just show it back into his face. he really doesn't know what to do about it. go ahead, vinyl. well, a couple of things here, hearkening back a gentleman to 911. there's one thing i've learned, then i can only speak about the fish poll. we don't want to hear a lot of specifics about names, and who is it is a ppo a. but that was in the authority or her minds and the guys already we don't wanna hear about this. give her something like terrorism. oh kite, that's it. that'll do it. now we just say how much?
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and what somebody will say is, we don't care, we're how masses. now, what does that mean? that means that if we, if there is one hint if, if, if to hamas leaders or perhaps it kept saying in a 10 somewhere where ever they are, wherever they are, that gives us carte blanche to eliminate them. now that which sounds spacious, but to most people you mentioned to kaylee. okay, that sounds good enough because we have to on do this as though it is a place as though what does it seem as though there was a headquarters with uniforms and chevrons in a general and a liter? somebody's over time, years ago, the funding terrorism is a trying to catch smoke with your hands. sounds great, but as long as these terms are used and as long as i'm sorry, but as long as the wrong people don't understand that there are human beings involved in this. this will continue, but i've never felt more hopeful than i do right now. they say to me, are there absolutely right, let me,
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let me go to ramsey right now they can use all of the labels they want. but when you see a disfigured child a chart, baby, all those labels go out the window because any decent human being is horrified by and what makes it more horrible? is it? it can be stopped, okay, it can be stopped. go ahead and say, ramsey. and i think it's, there is, we are the custom of a historic moment, not only because of the change that is happening regarding the perception of palestine, not because of the way that even all the people now st. palestinians have the right to resist and do to defend themselves. i've never thought that that moment was even possible in my lifetime. but something else is also happening. we are challenging mainstream media. it's used to be something that we did a theory. we used to talk about it as an academic possibility, but now mainstream media is being side light in favor of a different type of media with a social media independent media. people are communicating in the streets and
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emails and use this them every other way. we have actually managed to change that little bit of consciousness around pa, despite using a completely different medium of communication. aside from that very tightly controlled mainstream corporate media. and i don't think that they would be able to reverse this because as a whole, different upper right. this is being at work school years and years and years. and i think is gonna pay off it. in fact, it is already paying on in, in regarding because that policy, i think it's only going to accelerate. okay. because a in the, this whole of the, they, the genocide is actually just another issue that so many people feel marginalized with because of neo liberalism. and this is given the younger generation, something they need to break the shackles. i mean, they lie about this, then they probably are lying about just about everything else, which of course they are as about inmate route. as we all know that spain norway,
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in ireland recently recognized palace, palestine as a state. oh, oh, little late, you know, and, but met better late than never, i mean a 140 other countries that were ahead of them. but of course this, these, these are american satellites. so this is an important to but the, the is really president cods turned around and basically said these are anti semitic countries. how does that work anymore? i ask this question. often these programs being accused of anti semitism. yeah, that's a pretty nasty thing to be accused, but of course it is banned either about without any real meaning it's just a, a slower go ahead. it's 100 percent, you know, use that without any meaning at this point. but suddenly we, you're seeing that even now in the, in you as always, being and try and, and they sent me a decent, is also a pre existing will be used for right now you cannot read this idea. no, because all of a sudden you're, you're on by send me right here. doesn't really sites a u. s. government, all your life. but you guys don't there be criticizing israel and i think this is really, you know, like i, we, we are reaching a point the history that are there is not turned around. there is no way back.
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there is no putting virginia back into bottles right anymore. try to in the, i think uh, you know, a went in the salt thanks to the fact that we are currently connected all the time . right. um, we are seeing a lot of these massacres. we're seeing like these attacks on our phones. we do not need cnn, we don't update fox news. we will not be any news network to tell us what is happening. we can see it or sales. and i think that has been big game changer ride the democratic session of information. and of course, there's always going to need updates to silence it like a calling. anyone would there is criticize israel, a non bi semis, but that's simply, it doesn't have to wait. it does a used to have anymore. i would imagine in the west maybe i'd be more right. uh if people who, who is employers may, may be willing to fire someone for being a non bi same i. but other than that is just, you know, empty talk at this point is empty rhetoric and he's sadly, even the jewish population out there you go. with that, he's realizing that the western governments are using their jewish,
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their joyousness, and right, there are the fact that there are jews to justify change the site to just the fire war machine to justify the mass murder of children. and of course, they don't want that. why would you want that? what was the one that your identity to be type of genocide, you know, line or you know, you over the years you and i have made light of the younger generation with some of their attitudes and lifestyles, etc, etc. but i, i, i were a very god said this, the younger generation of dogs and you know, and thank goodness for young american jews they, they, they are showing the sight of judaism, that is real and not designed as crime that they want design this want to wrap them all into under one umbrella with and they're telling us that is not true. and i think that is a huge change for consciousness and american jews have set up for the right thing and i'm very proud of them. go headlines. you know, i do remember awhile back, whatever, but he mentioned salo lensky, all of a sudden, over 90 was like, that's
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a typical salo lensky movie. go. how would follow lensky? well, anyway, he became the, the, the patriarch of, of all things left as well. i wouldn't be the salo inskeep, and here's my number one rule. if you are an anti semite, if you are a racist pray as much as you can said, they use the word racism and anti semitism to the point where it gets such metallurgy that it becomes meaningless. then you can move it. it's like reducing resistance to bacteria with anybody out of the word means nothing. so if there ever is true anti semitism, if there is a racism, nobody, there is a how are you doing that? again? it goes, no, no this, i mean it, this time is cry wolf. lastly, did you notice how harvard university for the 1st time this week said we're not going to be involved in any kind of matters of concern? so what it and your friends, when you, you what, yes, we figured a way around as we here, bye. are going to pull back and not be involved because you've got donors,
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you've got students and just students aren't budging at all. they are, they're having diplomas. and and um and um, i guess uh the problem is withheld. a risk of such so young people, i'm with you peter sisters, the spirit of that 6 these. they love it and the more you push against them, the more they fight back, which makes me. yeah, but you know, but why don't we, you know, it's really interesting is that this is a moral cons. okay. we're not talking about artichokes or inflation. we're talking about what, because when i watch all this i'm, i'm losing my own humanity in this program. i have here across stock is a way for me to say it's not we, it's all look at this and with honestly and not lose our heart humanity. and i think that's what's most important gentleman so much to discuss. but so little time, i want to thank my guests in new york, seattle edge, and be rude. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our team. so your next time and remember prospect rules.
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