tv Cross Talk RT May 31, 2024 6:30pm-7:01pm EDT
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became especially tons of these rarely armies started its limits and operations in southern guys with casualties rising as well as sunday attack on the area around rough um that led to the task of at least $45.00 civilians. those displays from the north who were sheltering near egyptian boulder. the strikes that sparked global condemnation ad intentions, of course, but on size they come us and forms the mediator is that it is prepared to reach a comprehensive agreement. if israel stops, it's hor in guys, and this is what the new proposal promises. so we can say that chance is a high if things go according to the plan and they both sides stick with a commitment. and the bowl is now and how massive side we are expecting their answer. well, political, our list on the screen writer is shown stone, sage. the is really proposal appears to signify a key concession on its part. so far, the rhetoric has been to this, this wars and tomas right, this is the, the,
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the slogan that lex and yahoo has been the same by and everyone is basically saying this is going to end a moss and yet it is negotiated. this negotiation, this offering is not ending come off even though biting this thing. it's ending a mosse. it's actually negotiating and make a deal with some us. so it's really interesting, i think, to my mind that, um, essentially it seems like a very good opportunity for both parties to say face right now, as we know, israel is suffering in the internet in the eyes of the national community. there's been have faith, we have stood and then yahoo and others are are being indicted by the national criminal court and ask for these, crying out for about genocide. but this gives them an opportunity to basically say, face and say, okay, we now proposing piece and we're going to work and cooperate with a mouse in doing so. so in many ways you can say this could be a win win if done properly for both sides. and the other hand,
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you could say that the timing is very fitted fitting for bite and then company. because right now, america, as they know is very divided and where the trump verdict, and a lot of people in america are very angry with by the administration. so there's nothing like this moment to then reveal a piece plan to make bite and look good. even if the plan falls apart in a week or 2, a shawn stone. now as we enter the weekend, um the brand new month of june flip, right in the know with the stories up. i'm not sure if by giving r t a follow on x or twitter never adult moment there. good by the the
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hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things are considered on peter lavelle. we are told the by the administration won't change it support or israel, even in life of the recent rock, the massacre, there are no red lines, only empty words. the international community is rallying to the palestinian cause . meanwhile, the us stands alone in isolation. the processing power sign, i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal and media analyst in seattle. we have ramsey my road. he is a palestinian author and journalist and in bay we crossed as the bunks carrillo, lopez. he is a news this editor for the cradle are a gentleman, cross talk rules and effect. that means he can jump any time you want and i always appreciate line. and let me go to you 1st here, john kirby, this folks person for the national security establishment for the bite ministration said he was offended by a question that included how many more char babies will it take for the bite and in
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ministration to consider his policy he's offended it. is that what the only thing to be offended about as we watch all this unfold? oh, out of touch, are these people because i was offended, but he could be offended by a question. the refer like reality. go ahead line with one of the many of us and the world are offended by charge babies and charged people. so we're on the same page. if you think about this, you know, what's interesting, the gentleman decides this past week. it, it, it occurred to me that in a conversation, you know, anybody can win an argument. if nobody ever pushes back. if you're, if you have a debate and your team, your, your opponent just listens. nothing will ever change. that's what's happening right now. i live as i told you in the 1st full what we're talking about right now. i guarantee it was not known or cared about by 90 percent of the people in my country . and i would say western, we use the word red line,
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red line has been used to death. i think the administration said we do not want another 30000 on another. does that mean that shores of that? when i hear, when i see the politicians sighing autographing missiles, why did didn't in world war 2 like a hailey or you nicky? hey i, i, i'm thinking myself, i'm in a, it's me, i'm in the parallel universe because i can't believe, does anybody not realize what's happening here? there's no records. so i'm offended by a myriad of topics. yeah, around 0. and it's really quite interesting. the biden's peer, well, i think it costs like $360000000.00 is a, it's all broken up and it's gone to sure here. i think it's a good metaphor for his entire policy. it's broken, it was never thought out. and it just basically based on lies and deceit. go ahead,
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as i've said it would be, but just one very quick thing. just commenting on what our friend then they'll have to say, you know, like, oh, i love you. and i love everything. you have to say, but i have to disagree with you on this one. i don't think that there is a massive change happening even in the united states. finally, finally, i know that there was a group of kids in the city of seattle where i live at the moment, who decided to do just a simple approach as downtown seattle, on instagram. i attended it and it was the i was in. so people restaurant owners, people, tories spend the streets cheering, pottis' like i have been in this country for 25 years in the city for 25 years. i have never seen anything like this. so i think it's the nic is ease of this world who are becoming isolated then it has supposed i actually liked it when she did what she did. i, you know, it shows what the most though she is a human being. but a lot of americans are just pausing and asking the question, how is this ok,
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how was lindsay ramos asking for a bomb to be dropped a nuclear bumped to be dropped over going as a. okay, so a lot of americans, i think developing this, what you were talking about earlier this new consciousness. that's 3 the indicates that there is a major ship happening among ordinary americans, and i think this is gonna continue for the coming period. as for the question, yeah, from the very beginning we said that this is an american attempt at depriving palestinians or the last line of defense and that is dropped off. and that's exactly what happened. but luckily, even that little sham of theirs is not working. they're saying the weather broke it down, although things they said one of the ships capsized or whatever. so there is some sort of a, again, that the americans that play. and by the way, until now, not a single, but assuming a has been fed as a result of this american project. yeah, not the 2nd part of a 160 h a. a trucks worth of wouldn't been taken from the,
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the peer somewhere, but the disappear. nobody knows what, how to move. we don't, we, this is not going to go any what, any, well, a, maybe there were people i is rarely protesters that spoiled it and threw it away. like we've seen so many of the videos. okay. these are civilians that are given military protection to deny basic needs for the palestinian people, which is against international law. and it's in violation of the genocide convention of savannah. you know, one of the, another big story that we had in the last few days is that massage was a stocking and intimidating the former prosecutor of the i, c c. now i never been a big fan of the i c c. but this, this stocking and threatening a judge is mafia tactics and basically, and again it's my own opinion here that we see the mafia behavior in the media, the matthew behavior in congress. we see them off the behavior of too many people
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in the western alliance and, and, and western europe. this is, there's a lot of mock the behavior going on here and it's being exposed. go ahead. opposite of some of these being a bit exposed by the they're all 3 of these themselves. right? because uh, i don't want i, but what uh, what, what would we mean say so far that we are at this moment of seeing a complete clash between what it's supposed to be international already supposed to be, you know, basic human decency. and whatever the, where's the, you know, whatever the us government spouse, whatever the cy on these, the institutions is bought over there. and this whole thing with the i c, c persecution. well, you know, cutting kind of prosecutor said himself that i'm elected. western of bishop told him that the h i c. c is only meant for africa talks like booking. and i think about says that all right, we are leaving in a current the reality in which there are laws for some and then last for others rather obviously pushes for some of their own institutions for others. and even with these, uh, these for ridiculous thing with the,
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with the gas up here. right. and there's absolutely no sense in opening up something like that. a, creating spending $320000000.00 when there are 7, perfectly, a good operating a blank crossings. if the guy said i could allow hundreds of trucks to enter every single day, what is expected needed? so there's another space doesn't want to see that the right they want to help is wrong, maintain permanent control of gas, and that extends to the political persecution that the i c c judges. and i'm pretty sure so not the i c j. now just they're going to be facing because why? because they their ask the question that easy to all of. busy our minds which these are the us and these are above international law. that's it. that's the question that is being asked right now. line. oh, you know, i'm a new, i still call it twitter. a new hash tag that's trending is never biden. and of course, it's because of his policy and primarily his policy on palestine within his own party. people that saying he's not doing enough in the other thing,
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he's doing too much. okay. i mean, what i or need in, in for someone that has been very high and in the lobbies donations biden is uh, yeah, i repeat what he's so as go ahead line. oh yeah i, i must go back and i say that please. dear god or whoever. i hope i'm wrong. there was a blood brain barrier that sometimes have to remember that what we think gentlemen, are not necessarily what everybody thinks. yes, there are pockets. i don't want to belabor the point, there are pockets and i think more so dare i say piers morgan and a go if this mean, if this means anything you don't like it will be j supposedly said, you know when you've lost peers, morgan you've lost middle america, but, but there is something and i came across is on the x or twitter and i'm with you peter. i even still use album, so that's my particular frame of reference. but there are pictures that are when
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you talking about, insinuated babies they show them. and if i could somehow make, if i could somehow whatever this, this barriers to let the american people know what we're talking about. if they saw this, like they did during the period in vietnam, when they said, do you mean that what's been going on? it would change everything, because there is a strangle hold on information right now more than ever. and they are hoping beyond hope that people do not see the reality of there's a one more thing, isn't interesting. talking about contradictions. we want it international court, if it applied to vote, but out of it applied to us. and then we say the incredible technological facility of israel, however, how many times have they said oaks my bed made a mistake? sorry, yeah. jose address, sorry warriors. how the for, you know, the fog of war,
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what you're going to be, and then people often times is not and say, well, whatever, as they move on to the next story, i hope that is coming to an end. well remedy they mean if you look at the genocide conventions you um biden blinking sullivan, all the rest of them, their their toadies in europe. they, they are comfortable under the same convention. and i think the beginning to realize that because the, again, i'm not a big booster of the i. c. c, the icpc is moving. we have the international criminal court. this that's also preceding, this is serious business. and i think people in the west leaders in the west were beginning to realize that they could get caught up into this web ramsey. i think i think what the katie and sign has done to everyone by surprise, honestly. yeah. because i mean, 54 people were indicted by or arrest warrants were issued for 54 people worldwide says that the court has started for 2 of them are applicants. the vast
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majority of them are from the global self. so this is a 1st, so this is, this is why they were taken by surprise. that said the, i see the seat should have moved much earlier considering the panic that that decision that was created, killing him, son knows exactly what's happening because i he came to the bottom. oh there used to he's so what's going on and the other side, he knows exactly what happened. it's belated, but it's better late than never. but the question is, is, are the america's actually complicit or are they directly involved from the very beginning. i've made the, the argument that the americans are directly involved. you can't give this much money. that's right. you cannot sustain this war from the very start. and just the polite provide every political, every legal, every moral justification for is up to do what do we know you are present in gaza? the delta force has been in and out of gauze that the p are means that the americas are in gaza. they are within then it's a remote area which is controlled by as well in gaza. the americans rather have the
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whole overhead to get you hold that thought, my friend, we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine. stay with our team. the the, the russian states never is as tight as i'm one of the most sense community invest in most all sense and up to 5 must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission,
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the state on rochester day and split the r t spoke next. steven, our video agency roughly all the band on youtube tv services for the question, did you say steven? twist, which is the welcome back across stock. were all things are considered on peter level to and you were discussing palestine the let's go back to a son in bay road. you know, this one phrase gives me hope and it, it gives me a sense of dread at the same time. and it's the 2 state solution which, you know, that's the, the fallback position that everyone talks about in mainstream western media,
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corporate media here. but of course we know that the current prime minister of israel and nothing yeah. who has been a, in fact the israel will never support that biden's minions come out and say that is the goal and all that and, and it doesn't take a whole lot to see. well, what kind of a farce are we going through here? if the administration that is funding and giving diplomatic support for this genocide, i think that it can't get its way then then what is the then then what kind of legal protections that do the bind ministration have when pursuing his policies? cuz obviously it's not going to work if it's partner isn't willing to do this, go ahead and be with as well. exactly. you know, each felt themselves. so being the 1st to say we will never approve about 2 state solution because 1st of all, the 2 state solution would have to include the west back and delta by was bank of 10 easy routes on the policy and copied though, let's not forget that the us in 2020 ivy need recognize these are some of these
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really copied. also they would have to back track on that. and then all of us on the road would have to clear out all of these hundreds of westbank settlements that are just chopsticks of big stream is similar groups that are used to just, you know, burn down. probably steamy on villages stuff a issue. the policy in yes, kill them with complete impunity. it's all 1st of all the starting over there. that's simply not going to happen. you know, it's a, it's a, it's a pipe dreams. and these are ridiculous. and a statement that keeps being repeated by european leaders by the us. see if it's something that would actually resolve the problem and rather keep talking about over the form of a cd. and i'm sorry, what is that even mean? and how come to publish the end of the all righty. which palestinians themselves do not trust the not the not considered to have any legitimacy. how can they be that was needing, leading any palestinian government writing needs to be an actual need, their one, they want it there to be a probably staying in the state. it needs to be 1st of all independence, and it needs to be led by all, probably spinning is not just by the ones that are willing to work alongside israel,
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so that simply not, not they, they the way out of these the way out of these use for each row to, to, for these writing the, for the scientists project to be on the, or these to be on gone for probably his time to read it, to regain all of these territory. and then you know, all of these really serious as will want to remain there to remain there. right. uh, they will have all of the productions moving along side. we just say add s the boxes, esteban, there's even a simpler solution. they can apply for palestinian citizenship. okay. and that, that's one way also to do that. okay. i don't understand why i owe for 75 years. it's a big the accepted bid. palestinians must become zine as well. white. why can some jews become palestinian citizens? okay. it works both ways. okay. your line or is it as we go towards the election here and i already talked about the never bite and movement. it's very interesting . i mean, i agree with you. there's like putting into this whole story as
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a control controlled. i burn, sorry for the metaphor here about how americans are supposed to consume this, but fewer and few people watch cable tv. i don't watch it anymore. it's a waste of time. ok. there's so many other good sources of information out there. and you brought up peers, morgan week here's market just shows the farce of this duplicity. he does it for us . okay. because he's not very smart and he just looks at headlines and he throws in . well, he's not okay. i mean it's a tabloid guy. that's what he is, all right, but he brings on some pretty interesting people and they just show it back into his face. he really doesn't know what to do about it. go ahead line. oh, well, a couple of things here, hearkening back a gentleman to 911. there's one thing i've learned that i can only speak about the 1st of all. we don't want to hear a lot of specifics about names and who is it is a ppo a but that was in the authority of the minds and the guy that way we don't wanna hear about this. give us something like terms. and i'll kind of, that's it,
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that will do it. now we just say how much and what somebody will say is we don't care, we're homeless, it. now, what does that mean? that means that if we, if there is one hint if, if, if to hamas leaders or perhaps it kept saying in a 10 somewhere where ever they are, wherever they are, that gives us carte blanche to eliminate them. now that it sounds spacious, but to most people you mentioned to kaylee. okay, that sounds good enough because we have to on do this as though it is a place as though what does it seem as though there was a headquarters with uniforms and chevrons in a general and a leader? somebody said, what time, years ago the fighting terrorism is a trying to catch smoke with your hands. sounds great, but as long as these terms are used and as long as i'm sorry, but as long as the wrong people don't understand that there are human beings involved in this. this will continue, but i've never felt more hopeful than i do right now. they have to say to me or the
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rep fully, right? let me, let me go to ramsey right now. they can use all of the labels they want. but when you see a disfigured child a chart, baby, all those labels go out the window because any decent human being is horrified by and what makes it more horrible? is it? it can be stopped, okay, it can be stopped. go ahead and say, ramsey. and i think it's, there is, we are the custom of a historic moment, not only because of the change that is happening regarding the perception of palestine, not because of the way that's even older the people now st. palestinians have the right to resist and do to defend themselves. i've never thought that that moment was even possible in my lifetime, but something else is also happening. we are challenging mainstream media. it's used to be something that we did a theory. we used to talk about it as an academic possibility, but now mainstream media is being side light in favor of
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a different type of media with the social media, independent media. people are communicating industry and sending e mails and use this them every other way. we have actually managed to change the globe or consciousness around palestine using a completely different medium of communication. aside from that very tightly controlled mainstream, corporate media. and i don't think that they would be able to reverse this because it's a whole different upper right. this is being at work school years and years and years and i think is going to pay off. it's in fact it is already paying on it in regarding goals that pops up. i think it's only going to accelerate. okay. because in the, this whole of the, the genocide is actually just another issue that so many people feel marginalized with because of neo liberalism. and this is given the younger generation, something they need to break the shackles. i mean, they lie about this, then they probably are lying about just about everything else,
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which of course they are as about inmate route. as we all know that spain norway, in ireland, recently recognized palace. palestine is a state. oh, literally you know, and but, but better late than never, i mean a 140 other countries that were ahead of them. but of course this, these, these are american satellites. so this is an important to but the, the is really president cods turned around and basically said these are anti semitic countries. how does that work anymore? i ask this question. often these programs being accused of anti semitism. yeah, that's a pretty nasty thing to be accused of, but of course it is banned either about without any real meaning it's just a, a slower go ahead. it's 100 percent, you know, use that without any meaning at this point. but suddenly we, you are seeing that even now in the, in us always being and try and, and they sent me a decent is also pre existing will be used for right now you cannot read this idea . no, because all of a sudden you're, you're on by send me right. you guys are really psyched that you as. busy them and thought your life, but you guys don't there be criticizing israel and i think this is really,
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you know, like i, we, we are reaching a point the history that are there is no turning around. there is no way back. there is no putting virginia back into bottles right anymore. right. and the, i think uh, you know, a when uh it nice all things to. busy the fact that we are currently connected all the time. right. um, we are seeing a lot of these massacres. we're seeing like these attacks on our phones. we do not need cnn. we don't update fox news. we will not be any news network l. what is happening? we can see it ourselves. and i think that has been big game changer, right? the democratic sation of information and of course there's always going to be that they have to silence it like not calling anyone. well, there's great size israel, a non bi semis, but that seem to doesn't have to wait. it does a used to have anymore. i would imagine in the west maybe i'd be more right. uh, if people who, who is employers, maybe it may be willing to fire someone for being a non di same i a lot other than that is just, you know, and the thought that these buying these empty rhetoric and he's sadly, even the jewish population out there you go with that, he's realizing that the western governments are using their jewish,
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their joyousness, and right there on the fact that there are jews to justify change the site to just the fire war machine to justify the mass murder of children. and of course, they don't want that. why would you want that? what would you want that your identity to be types of genocide, you know, line or you know, you over the years you and i have made light of the younger generation with some of their attitudes and lifestyles, etc, etc. but i, i, i were a very god said this younger generation of dogs and you know, and thank goodness for young american jews they, they, they are showing the sight of judaism, that is real and not designed as crime that they want design is want to wrap them all into under one umbrella with and they're telling us that is not true. and i think that is a huge change for consciousness and american jews have set up for the right thing and i'm very proud of them. go headlines. you know, i do remember awhile back,
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but everybody mentioned salo lensky, all of a sudden, over 90 was like, that's a typical salo lensky movie. go who, the how was follow lensky? well, anyway, he became the, the, the patriarch of, of all things left as well. i wouldn't be the salo lensky, and here's my number one rule. if you are an anti semite, if you are a racist pray, as much as you can said, they use the word racism and anti semitism to the point where it gets such metallurgy that it becomes meaningless. and then you can move it. it's like reducing resistance to bacteria, what anybody addicts, the word means nothing. so if there ever is true anti semitism, if there is a racism, nobody, there is the, oh, are you doing that again? it goes, no, no this, i mean at this time is cry wolf. lastly, did you notice how harvard university for the 1st time this week said we're not going to be involved in any kind of matters of concern? so what it and your friends, when you, you what, yes, we figured
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a way around as we here, bye. are going to pull back and not be involved because you've got donors, you've got students and just students aren't budging at all. they are, they're having diplomas. and and um and um, i guess, uh, the problem is withheld or a risk of such so young people, i'm with you peter sisters, the spirit of that 6 these. they love it, and the more you push against them, the more they fight back, which makes me, yeah, but you know, but why don't we, you know, what's really interesting is that this is a moral cause. okay. we're not talking about artichokes or inflation. we're talking about what, because when i watch all this i'm, i'm losing my own humanity in this. the program i have here across stock is a way for me to say it's not we, it's all look at this and with honestly and not lose our heart humanity. and i think that's what's most important gentleman so much to discuss. but so little time, i want to thank my gets a new york seattle and be rude. and of course i want to thank our viewers for
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the, the, as far as the trial itself is very unfair. it's a rigs, there was a rig trial we wanted a venue change. republican frontrunner donald trump, aliesha is always how the new york courts often finds in guilty on the 34th, telling the pods and the 1st, the former us president to be convicted of a crime senior republicans react by taking aim at the american justice system itself saying it's being weaponized against their presumptive. normally we gauge opinions from locals on the street, something new york city. we're going to have a feller part of the of, of felons. if josh, is it just a system stuff with other people in jail countries? crazy. you know that of all worlds looking at it, saying what's going on over there in america,
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