to go back to the united states, the i work for the united states department of defense, their cyber command unit. and i developed a systems for doing propaganda computerized systems and did a lot of training for them for fights against russia and ukraine in moldova, in our main the, the, i decided to move here. fact when i 1st met my wife. and she brought me here the

fall, right after we had met. that was so almost 20 years ago. and i just fell in love with the peninsula. and in 2014, when russia took over, i appreciated the fact that the people had a free and democratic election to become part of russia. and i've seen that sense of russia has taken over as the government and crimea, that many, many things have improved over the time that i spent your while it was under ukraine. the i have no desire to move back to the united states. i love it here, and i like the values that russia has in place for their people.

everyone gets along no matter what race or religion they are, you have to be here for a while to really see what russians are like, what the culture is like, what the government is like, the rod you can get for the do you do the whole the stories are following on our teeth. come, i'll be right back at the top of the r c. we get the the i'm action or not say welcome back to going underground bull cussing all around the world from the you a where president shakela home and been zaya, and was with chinese presents huge and big,

and badging this week. both like the international community condemn israel's invasion of roughly enabled by the usa u. k. and the you nations, today, voters, instead of bricks member and biggest democracy in the world, india will decide who they want as prime minister in the final stage. i mean, it's 18th general election. i know peck plus meet in vienna to defy us. goal is to increase energy output. it's also the end of a through the 1982 signing of a landmark. i am asking you to weapon street between the usa and russia, towing up by the old trump catalyzing a world today where israel, nato and russia, now named check that for example, use of nuclear weapons, whether it be in gaza or ukraine. joining me from falls church in virginia, in the usa is a former us army officer, if that he is kind of lawrence wilkinson with steve just off at a state department. would you like any blinking up? he adds an unconditional supporter of israel. a thank you so much kind of air coming back on monday and beheaded babies in rough or multiple eros, whom is worth of t and t equivalent on garza. and today the end of us here,

the now ended i n f new create a treaty. how new is the world to nuclear use? now of senior senator lindsey graham told me about his rail and nuclear weapons just the other day. congressman said the gaza should be new, so it's interesting that you bring up the online yesterday. it was going pals greatest. he thought achievement with president reagan when he was national security advisor and deputy. and he said it was the most important new to our weapons. true, you all, because those weapons were the most dangerous along. and now we've destroyed the starting with george bush and the abm treaty, which was an on bridal stupid on wise act advocate the treaty. and he did it essentially because the new conservatives and his government wanted him to. so that one, they can make money off the enormously expensive apparatus associated with the m d . but also because they hated the world as they do every body other than us. and

wanted to make sure that in the future they could defend themselves against a new car strike contemplating that they would launch that strike. so that's, that's how dangerous. so eliminating the after the was and bro, the others into it. and i don't want to leave out the conventional forces in europe treating you may have seen the recently former police law general harrell code. john gave a disposition on our own presentation. a brilliant presentation era died sliding. alexander the great clowes with number of other people. but it is described how stupid, how unwise, our strategy is today, and what we're doing in ukraine and gaza and elsewhere. i don't know where this country is going, but i do know it's not any positive place anytime soon. i mean, just on the massacre in rough uh,

the pictures of which are being beamed around the global south. if they end up being a real cost on what's being called us cost. more often than not nato propaganda media that you have in the us. and in nato nations, when national security advisor jake sullivan, biden's advisor said, as he said, uh as regards uh why the us ascending weapons to israel committing genocide. according to most people around the world. he said, what we're going to be looking at is whether there is a lot of death and destruction from this operation. but as regards the may, the 15th, the, another $1000000000.00 of us public money sent in at yahoo. does he facilitate this holocaust in rafa? of course he did. everyone who's completed a, as facilitated from president joseph biden, down to the lowest member of the united states government, who now has not walked out and resigned in shame and anger over the policy. um,

he was back up just for a minute. if you look at what is happening in the i, c, j m, the i c c. we're seeing the 1st display of more or less balanced international justice. in the past the i c. c, basically a captive of the non signatory power of the united states. only would i have to black people in africa. and then when the balkans are up to date, when after their 1st white, people run it by the garage, it can solve it on milosevic. but still going after people that the c i, a and the united states declared their enemies. now suddenly they've grown up. now suddenly they've got a pair of components. now suddenly they are actually doing an international justice and look at what the great bastion of international justice here to for has said about that. we haven't even had congress members who would call the family and members of the i,

c. c. and threatened them. this is not the way a hedge fund or decent country or a country interested in its reputation and future acts as a way of country acts that is lost and building the rest of the world like the brakes, for example, into a balancing entity to take care of it and mark my words that will happen. so you'd see that as the mosque being off because a lot of people say the international vocation chord as you anticipate, gave them another month, the israelis to continue committing genocide them were even handed. they equated resistance to occupation with the response to october, the 7th that arguable continual violations of un security council resolutions in west bank in jerusalem that are continuing right now as well. there was a student move in my view. um, jurisprudence is jurisprudence but you have to live in the world and it was

a very balanced decision to take to 3 principal leaders of a mosque and uh, you know, a good lock and maybe not in your on the other side audits or on some other people in there others are on been give here and there for sure. beloved thursdays out that he is been give here would kill every palestinian man, woman and child in a heartbeat. if you have the apparatus and the method to do it. so how to thrown him in there just to make it a little more balance, 3 to 3, if you will. but the court has to live in the world, and i think it's a good to say, yeah, well, it has to stop the killing. and of course, that are being reported the threats to the judges before they were making their deliberations. but you mentioned been give a, you know, these really labor a potty, a chief said that to give you here. and then yahoo, where uh, collaborate is in the killing of ravine and israel, do you think, what do you think that and yeah, well maybe you can tell me uh, cause of course they denied about that and people don't watch the video. watch the

video that these riley filmmakers put together and of course that we squashed as it was as soon as it across the ocean and were shown in this country. but it's a brilliantly put together video because about 2 thirds of the video, the documentary is actual footage, including the actual footage of the assassination. and from that video made by jewish filmmakers mind you and is real. that video shows how not to know who stirred up the grounds, got the crowds to be violent, and a boy is and knew exactly what he was doing. knew what would happen, probably even knew the group from which the assassin would call that of course, after the assassination. some years later, a resurrected game and made him a hero in the side or community. so baby was responsible for the assassination of youth. zach were being as we, the united states of america are now responsible for the genocide and gaza as well

. and that kind of thing was known by us intelligence services. it was known in the state to us when you are chief of stuff you bet. well, them right now, you know, and that for years, do you think blinking realizes that netanyahu could be assassinated at any moment? that would be, you know, people ask me that question. mother said, you don't understand the right versus the middle and the well. my father used to put it this way. the left in the middle, bankruptcy of the ride will kill you. the left in the middle have no, no, no desire, no desire, no, no inclination to go out and shoot people or to blow people up or whatever. but the right does the right, are nazis the right, or trotsky is the right or linens. i'm sorry, they are people who want to kill to achieve their purposes. and so that's the people to be scared of imagining hours they've been give years and so for the damage can be done in other ways. as my father used to say, the level bankruptcy,

but they won't kill you. that's right. they will go use the hitler's oral that will kill you. well since we last spoke, of course, the president of iran has died in a helicopter accident. what were your 1st thoughts about that? i sort of the, the nature of propaganda media talking about how i'm popular a wise and physically be regime change and tire run and then certainly not show the millions on the streets of iran right across the country. morning him, what was your 1st thoughts when you had raised the a died in the helicopter accident so soon after this calibrated response to the us . so i'm going to the, to the, these are in the bombing of the consumers in damascus as well. that one, right, right, easy is doing other than approving it. that was a very sophisticated group within a direct iran revolutionary guard that did the um, my 1st reaction was i want to see what happened at once towards the some film. i got my wish and i'm a helicopter pilot over 3000 hours,

1000 plus of them in the mom in combat. and i saw the conditions under which that helicopter went down and those conditions were the kind that, for example, destroyed a lot of high and these, that the russians flu, enough kind of stuff. because you get into the weather situations that are so desperate with a heavily loaded helicopter not space. and iranian helicopters aren't very well maintain because we have sikes from the be jesus out of the aircraft repair parts resumes so they can't get anything. so i knew they said it was an old bell helicopter for which they can get pods from the 3rd parties very easily. i should say, i've lived in iran for quite a while. yeah, but it's, it's tough. it's really tough. so i've, i've seen some of the aircraft, i wouldn't lie in the. okay, so you're obviously leaning on this side of accident even though, as you said, just before, you know what the other side is capable of. yeah, i do. but there are some things that just aren't conspiracies,

and he just come out of the damn celebration as i understand that. and that sort of job where they were celebrating the joint potential for the joint construction other very important them there. and the weather was just absolutely abominable. why i would not have fallen out. i been the pilot now could by the who is clearly suffering with his base head of november's election diverts attention from gun as to what is happening in europe. because that the mass will that conflict, the proxy war has disappeared. the little from the headlines of nato nation at media. what do you make of this seeming debate about whether the us you'd like britain allow weaponry to target russia within russia? a stupid debate? it's a long wise debate. it's a cruel debate. it's a bruno little bag, and it makes no sense whatsoever. let's just take, for example,

the reason shot it brushes early warning system for ballistic missile shot from the united states of russia. that is the worst possible thing you can do with regard to their strategic warning system. so had it been the situation that existed a couple of times in my experience with ours inside the military, there would have been a, a debate about whether or not to launch it goes. when you take out something that serious, that critical for over the horizon and radar warning about ballistic missiles coming into your country, you don't have very long to debate and very long to decide you're going to shoot back. this was a very unwise mood. it was a stupid move 1st, giving the muscles like a do it. and then apparently approving the target that they chose to shoot makes no sense at all unless you're trying to get a new girl or started. and god forbid it anybody's trying to do that. no sense at all. kind of lot of stuff to you that more from the format cheapest off of the us

state department after this break. the welcome back to going on the right, and i'm still here with the retired go to larry. well, because in full, the cheapest off at the state department. so kind of at the end of one, you would to hear about this nuclear weapons radar system, the russian one that was targeted by ukrainian forces. so you're saying that the, that targeting could only be done with nato troops in situ, in ukraine. i know the germany in france, i'll say that it's ok to attack russia with the, with the weapons run slightly. i'm not, i'm not saying that, but zalinski is not stupid and a gray and military is not stupid, at least the leadership. so why would they select that target without their

permission of washington knowing that the target was a severe escalation of all of what had happened up to that point. when you go, it would be like when i was in the military, for example, we had this the early warning all across north america and elsewhere. it will be like someone shooting that i remember bilbury when he was sector defense telling me about an answer or something like that happened, but it happened on a computer, but the person reporting it to bill when he was sector dismissed, didn't know it was the computer didn't know it was a computer glitch. you got a call at 3. i'm in that 3 am in the morning and he had 18 minutes to make up his mind on calling the president and advising the president to launch an attack. those are the kinds of things you just don't want to do. you don't want to go there. you don't even want to start the process and taking out a part of their distant early warning line if you will, is a really stupid act because we have summer boards that the u. k. snap election was

because it's originally so that could be a prime minister that didn't want to become a warranted. i believe that the chief of the army general magic scientist said prepare for war with the rush or the reports. the government is telling uh, people in britain to pack a 3 days shopping of food and supplies. what is what is seriously going on here? as regards people saying the was already begun with russia directly. that's a good question. but if you look at the decisions are being made and the money is being passed about conscription i should as well in the people or jim stolen bird, for example i, i would have fire gen stolen bird a long time ago. the man thinks he's in charge of an army or something. he's not in charge of anything except the talking shop and brussels. i'm but they, these are my cross from france. he thinks he's the latter day charles de gaulle. it couldn't hold a candle to the former general, but there is a kind of people we have

a night or now to one of the reasons i said nato expansion was absurd. even though here we're talking about some people who've been and they though for some time, though the french are just reason rejoinders. well, you have to remind me who is here. they do a buzz when you are at the states, the cheapest job with the state department, but you're only in fantasies, phone, but you can't say a word without the imprimatur of attorney blinking to jake sullivan. truly was he just probably true because we picked him. we picked him and we made sure he got there just as we helped pick the car and governments in sweden, norway, fenelon, and elsewhere. been working on it for a long time. i'm not sure they at all represent. there are people who fundamentally, or still for some distance from nato and even they're traveling even with this invasion of ukraine. but we and you're near the gym stoves and burg, just as surely as we help the engineer of the victories of those people now

predominate in those countries. those new members of nato. but i don't sure they'll work out in georgia. you know the newspapers this week i got the japanese financial times in that family on new york times. both that like good core quick one headline, georgia. keep pushing from taking a new, born about the massive support for american policy in georgia and the japanese after the demonstrated with georgia and people trying to demonstrate against the law which the european union anyways. going to institute in that countries because the perceive russian threats. it's all gonna work in georgia or is it they over through color revolution? the hey knows, but i smell bill burns and this a, although bill would be a reluctant produce a participant, i think. i don't know anymore bills turned into a different person than when i knew him when he was a system sector for new years near or use an asian. um it says, why do i have like

a really down bass? it's a bosco, of course, before you became the present, it present headed to z. i and he's the one that he's the one that's, that's a very, very graphic and correct cable back saying yeah, means net referring to is appreciation of what would happen if we really looked like, what are we going to make to grind a member of the data so we just don't know what happened to, well, i think a, you know, you get so close to power and you have that additional power being able to do almost anything. and that's the ca today, anything with a capital a. and it goes to your head, goes to your head swiftly and you have the 1st customer is the president is now known, never use a language before, but now they use that language. and you understand why intelligence, real, real intelligence, even accurate, real intelligence gets turned into policy because the policy dictates what the intelligence can say. i had

a conversation today with someone who was asking me about an article about our in our, the little state department intelligence entity, which is right about vietnam. write about a rack, write about afghanistan and so forth. they said there was an article out to that effect. was that true? and i said, well, it's true with respect to one of the 16 then agencies within the intelligence community. but they're very small, the road towns and very professional, they're all experts regionally, language wise, and so forth. but it's not the truth that they were correct in assess the article and boards, they offered alternative advice to then d, c. i the director of central intelligence or other intelligence communities within the complex, but they were more or less correct in the general scheme of things and all those situations. but no one listens through. my boss sector call did not listen to the lower the ca, to prepare him for the web w. m. d presentation. with regard to

a rack. in february of 2003. i asked him to let me take the assistant secretary of state for intelligence and research to see i wouldn't again hate for bad me to do that. at that point, i should've resigned and wish i had. but i've later figured out why you didn't want me to take him over there, because then he would have had a real ax to throw at george tenet when he need to. but if the through that accident, george kennedy be drawing it to dick training and george bush and these are more do that george said that and then boss of the c i but i mean, uh, yeah, the dna reports of so recently as they were mentioning this program is if it's some kind of, you know, amazing, we important call going jewel politics. i wish it were as such as the d n i said in their put notes. but um, i mean, i mentioned the we were talking about the radar system. what about the quote because of the whole attack? most coke, is it able to take

a or does that have any hallmarks of any uh us proxies even tell you what it has an hallmark for me? it has a hallmark for me um, for what i have seen on more than one occasion, which is not just the wrong contra were really got into the papers. and really those publicize and all, most got all reagan and peach. people don't understand how close reagan came to be and page over on contra. but i hadn't seen it in a while until i came back in the government and then i realized it was alive and well. and that is the and i see going operational, the national security council statutory body design by the congress to more or less check the president. not do anything other than that is to say they didn't want anymore. franklin roosevelt's and so forth. so they great this body of people with him, the president would have to consult to include his own primary cabinet members.

well, the others and i say is gone, authorized also answer your question a long way to get to the answer. but it had all the hallmarks of victoria, no one victoria and they wouldn't had contacts with the as off. but i and she had contact with other shall we say less than savory characters in ukraine. and in addition, through our actions in syria, we had contact with isis leaders, c, r a. and the us marines actually got into a firefight in missouri and almost killed one another or cause casualties until they realize what was happening. because one side was after isis. and the other side was with slices. so it had all the hallmarks of, of victoria knew in parting shot after, you know, she knew she was going to be fired or she knows she was going to be removed. so she goes rogue and she provides the context to ukraine with isis members and you have what you have. i don't know that that happened,

but i would not be surprised if it did, which i think will shock a lot of uh, obviously russians and people around the world. i mean them, victoria, victoria, and i should say, that explains why just the other day you see a reply to this show she was going to come on. she suddenly passed, coming on the show. why, why did she go by the way? because obviously you'd think someone like that career, would it be ended by the lake phone. cool. over the way down. cool. all those years ago that but yet yeah, korea just went from strength to strength. what, how far did you go to get yourself fired by a blinking state department structure? be under the jo wide? well, i take what i was just postulating or what i was speculating on. got her fired. i think she was rogue. i think she used her position and gone

rogue. she was doing things that may be general breedlove, the old boy from europe. we used to ride his motorcycle down into the environs and talked to people. people realize breedlove was a grandstand for almost 3 years before he became sac here for 4 years. and he loved to ride his bicycle all over europe. is motorbike big, old, big, old motorbike and memory love i, i compare breedlove the curtis well may if you're familiar with the movie dark doctor strange law, the general in that movie is a caricature of curtis. so my, the man who bombed tokyo and killed more people in the fire bombing that we deal with the 2 atomic bombs. most americans don't know anything about him. and the man who outside the room, when kennedy was deliberating with the executive council about cuba, in october of $62.00, said, according to 2 sources,

i have talked to that man, i'll be killed. because, you know, kennedy was not elect the military option with regard to cuba. so these are the kind of characters that get this country in trouble from time to time in victoria and new and just added her name to the list to. well, just finally, it looks possible that trump will be elected in november of trump, of course, who uh, as regards what you were talking about, ca, cutouts. uh, you know, okay there, and i said the shooting uh, syria e as, as an aged uh, got some silly money, but when they come on to the fight against, uh, uh, i just, i actually in syria, but trump did say recently ordered it. he ordered it, he wouldn't have the guts to go there and do it. well, he didn't serve in the military. all right, but i think there was a good reason for that. i think he's kind of internet through the going to be nice even though he said he said a. and so i'm interview recently that he could maybe pause and julian massage with

that. um without him, john list today are suffering all around the world globally. have as he is incarcerated, and that's who makes prison bite and well, and i suppose what do you think about the chances of julian assange living to fight another day as he's tortured in london by british authorities? i'll put it so thankfully if trump wouldn't pardon me, i'd vote for charl kinda larry wilkerson. thank you. thank you. and that's it for the show of condolences to the survivors. all of us u. k. u bones in palestine will be back on monday to ask the grandson of his signature to his rails. 1948 declaration of independence. whether it's you on the side of guys, that means the end of israel until then you can give a judge. why will i social media if it's not sensitive you'll country and had to have channel going underground tv on the com to let you know the episodes on going undergrad. see you monday. the

moscow says you create ins weston back as a direct deposit depends in the war. and that says, why didn't green lights the use of the day to weapons described deep within boston territory. if they can do this to me, they can do this to anyone. and we have a president and a group of fascist, don't want to do anything about it. dawn from claims hayes court conviction was approximately office treated by president biden in an after describing his re election that we get reaction from the ground punch is crazy. you know that at all, we're always looking at it saying, what's going on over there in america, the greatest country in the world? are we able to have a feller possibly have a felony? it just does it just the system stuff, but the other people in jail.