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to bring up the iron yesterday, it was colin pals greatest, he thought achievement with president reagan when he was national security advisor and deputy. and he said it was the most important nuclear weapons. true you all because those weapons were the most dangerous of all. and now we've destroyed the starting with george bush and the abm treaty, which was an on bridal stupid on wise act advocate the treaty. and he did it essentially because the new conservatives and his government wanted him to. so that one, they could make money off the enormously expensive apparatus associated with the m d. but also because they hated the world as they do every body other than us. and wanted to make sure that in the future they could defend themselves against a nuclear strike, contemplating that they would launch that strike. so that's, that's how dangerous. so eliminating the nav 30 was and for all the others into it . and i don't want to leave out the conventional forces in europe treating you may
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have seen a reasonably warmer blue flaw for general harrell code. john gave a disposition on our own presentation. a brilliant presentation era died, siding alexander the great clowes with number of other people. but it is described how stupid, how on wise, our strategy is today. and what we're doing in ukraine and gaza and elsewhere. i don't know where this country is going, but i do know it's not any positive place any time soon. i mean, just on the massacre in rough uh, the pictures of which, uh, being beamed around the global south end up being a broadcast on what's being called us talk more often than not nature propaganda. media that you have in the u, as in native nations. when natural security advisor jake sullivan, biden's advisor said, as he said, as regards the why,
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the us ascending weapons to israel committing genocide, according to most people around the world, he said, what we're going to be looking at is whether there is a lot of death and destruction from this operation. but as regards the may, the 15th uh, another $1000000000.00 of us public money sent in at yahoo. does he facilitate this all the cost? and roughly, of course he did. everyone who's completed uh as facilitated from president joseph biden, down to the lowest member of the united states government, who now has not walked out and resigned in shame and anger over the policy. um, it goes back up just for a minute. if you look at what is happening in the i, c, j, m, the i c c. we're seeing the 1st display of more or less balanced international justice. in the past the i c. c, basically
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a captive of the non signatory power of the united states. only what after black people in africa and then when the balkans are up to date, when after their 1st white, people run it by the garage, it can hold it on milosevic. but still going after people that the c i, a and the united states declared their enemies. now suddenly they've grown up. now suddenly they've got a pair of components. now suddenly they are actually doing an international justice and look at what the great bastion of international justice here to for has said about that. we haven't even had congress members who would call in the family and members of the i, c. c. and threatened them. this is not the way a head, german, or decent country or a country interested in its reputation and future acts as a way of country acts that is lost and building the rest of the world like the brakes, for example, into
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a balancing entity to take care of it and mark my words that will happen. so you'd see that as the mosque being off because a lot of people say the international vocation chord as you anticipate, gave them another month, the israelis to continue committing genocide. then we're even had to bake weighted resistance to occupation with the response to october. the 7th that arguable continual violations of un security council resolutions in westbank, in jerusalem that are continuing right now. it was there was a student move in my view, um, jurisprudence is jurisprudence. but you have to live in the world and it was a very balanced decision to take to 3 principal leaders of a moss and uh, you know, a good lock and maybe not in your on the other side of the throne. some other people in there others are on man give here and there for sure blood thirsty sell up that he is. men give here would kill every palestinian man, woman and child in
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a heartbeat. if you have the apparatus and the method to do it. so out of thrown him in there just to make it a little more balance, $3.00 to $3.00, if you will. but the court has to live in the world, and i think it's a good to say, yeah, well, it has to stop the killing in the course that are being reported. the threats to the judges before they were making their deliberations. but you mentioned been give you, you know, these railey labor party, a chief said that to give you here and then yahoo, where uh, collaborate is in the killing of ravine. and israel, do you think, what do you think that and yeah, well, maybe you can tell me, uh cuz of course they denied about that and people don't watch the video. watch the video that these riley filmmakers put together and of course that we squashed as it was as soon as it across the ocean and were shown in this country. but it's a brilliantly put together video because about 2 thirds of the video, the documentary is actual footage, including the actual footage of the assassination. and from that video made by
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jewish filmmakers mind you and is real. that video shows how nothing out of the start of the crowds got the crowds to be violent. and a boy is and knew exactly what he was doing. knew what would happen, probably even knew the group from which the assassin would com. and of course, after the assassination, some years later, a resurrected a man made him a hero in the side or community. so baby was responsible for the assassination of youth zach were being as we, the united states of america are now responsible for the genocide and gaza as well . and that kind of thing was known by us intelligence services. it was known in the state that you were when you are chief of stuff, you bet. well them right now. do you know that for years? do you think blinking realizes that netanyahu could be assassinated at any moment? that would be, you know, people asked me that question. mother said you don't understand the right versus
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the middle and the lawyer. my father used to put it this way. the left in the middle, bankruptcy of the ride will kill you. the left in the middle have no, no, no desire, no desire, no, no inclination to go out and feed people or to blow people up or whatever, but the right does the right or not sees the right or trotsky is the right or linens. i'm sorry, they are people who want to kill, to achieve their purposes. and so that's the people to be scared of. and that to now is the beginning of years and so forth. the damage can be done in other ways. as my father used to say, the level bankruptcy, but they won't kill you. it's right. they will kill, use the hip verse of the world of okay. well, since we last spoke, of course the president of iran has died in a helicopter accident. what were your 1st thoughts about that? i sort of the, the nature of propaganda media talking about how i'm popular
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a wise and physically be regime change and tire on and then suited. we not show the millions on the streets of iran right across the country. morning him, what was your 1st thoughts when you had raised the a died in the helicopter accident so soon after this calibrated response to the us . so i'm going to the, to the, these are the bombing of the consumers in damascus as well. that one right, right, easy is doing other than approving it. that was a very sophisticated group within they are out there on revolutionary guard. that the, the, um, my 1st reaction was i want to see what happened. it was towards the some film. i got my wish and i'm a helicopter pilot over 3000 hours 1000 plus of them in vietnam in combat. and i saw the conditions under which that helicopter went down and those conditions were the kind that, for example, destroyed a lot of high and these, that the russians flu, enough kind of stuff. because you get into the weather situations that are so
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desperate with a heavily loaded helicopter and hot spaces. iranian helicopters aren't very well maintain because we have sikes from the be jesus out of the aircraft repair parts resumes. so they can't get anything new. they say there was an old bell helicopter for which they can get pods from the 3rd party is very easily, i should say, i've lived in iran for quite a while. yeah. but it's, it's tough. it's really tough. so i've, i've seen some of the aircraft. i wouldn't lie in the okay, so you're obviously leaning on this side of accident even though, as you said, just before, you know what the other side is capable of. yeah, i do. but there are some things that just aren't conspiracies, and he just come out of the damn celebration as i understand that. and that sort of job where they were celebrating the joint potential for the joint construction other very important them there. and the weather was just absolutely obama of a lot. i would not have flown and had i been in the pilot now could by the who's
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clearly suffering with this base of november's election day. but attention from kind as to what is happening in europe because that the mass will that conflict, the proxy war has disappeared. the little from the headlines of nature, nation at media. what do you make of this seeming debate about whether the us you'd like britain allow weaponry to target russia within russia? a stupid debate? it's a long while. as the bait is a cruel debate, it's a brutal the bag and it makes no sense whatsoever. let's just take, for example, the reason shot it brushes early warning system for ballistic missile shop from the united states of russia. that is the worst possible thing you can do with regard to their strategic warning system. so had it been the situation that exist as
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a couple of times of my experience with ours inside the military, there would have been a, a debate about whether or not to launch. because when you take out something that serious, that critical for over the horizon radar warning about ballistic missiles coming into your country, you don't have very long to debate and very long to decide you're going to shoot back. this was a very unwise mood. it was a stupid move 1st, giving the missiles like a do it. and then apparently approving the target that they chose to shoot makes no sense at all unless you're trying to get a new girl or started. and god forbid that anybody's trying to do that. no sense at all. kind of lost w that more from the format cheapest off of the us state department after this break the
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probably the most new and that'll be for them. imagery of assess florida doesn't want that extra them put the notes up under that the russian states never is as tight as i'm sort of the most sense community. not all sense and up to 5 must be the one else calls. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin mission, the state on the russians coding and split the r t spoke neck, keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube, the student services for the question, did you say steven,
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twist which is the, the, the welcome back to going under granite. i'm still here with the retired go to larry wilkerson for the cheapest off at the state department. so kind of with the end part when you were talking about this nuclear weapons radar system, the russian one that was targeted by ukrainian forces. so you're saying that the that targeting could only be done with nato troops in situ, in ukraine. i know the germany in france, i'll say that it's okay to attack russia with the, with the weapons, the size, but i'm not, i'm not saying that. but zalinski is not stupid and grinding and military is not stupid, at least the leadership. so why would they select that target without their permission
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of washington? knowing that, that target was a severe escalation of all of what it happened up to that point. when you go there, it would be like, when i was in the military, for example, we had just an early warning all across north america and elsewhere. it would be like someone shooting that i remember bilbury when he was sector defense telling me about an answer or something like that happened. but it happened on a computer, but the person reporting it to bill when he was secretary to say, i just didn't know it was like a peer didn't know. it was a computer glitch. you got a call at 3. i'm in that 3 am in the morning and he had 18 minutes to make up his mind on calling the president and advising the president to launch and attack. those are the kinds of things you just don't want to do. you don't want to go there . you don't even want to start the process and taking out a part of their distant early warning line if you will, is a really stupid act because we have summer boards that the u. k. snap election was
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because it's originally so that could be a prime minister that didn't want to become a one time lead of the u. k. chief of the army, general patrick. so how does that prepare for war with the rush or the reports? the government is telling the people in britain to pack a 3 days shopping of food and supplies. what is what is seriously going on here? as regards people saying the was already begun with russia directly. that's a good question. but if you look at what decisions are being made and the money is being passed about conscription i should as well both in the people are jim stolen bird, for example i, i would have fire gen stokeland bird a long time ago. the man thinks he's in charge of an army or something. he's not in charge of anything except the talking shop and brussels. i'm but they, these are my cross from france. he thinks he's the latter day charles de gaulle. it couldn't hold a candle to the former general,
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but those are kind of people we haven't made our now. so one of the reasons i said nato expansion was absurd, even though here we're talking about some people who've been and i though for some time though the french are just reason rejoinders. well, you have to remind me who is here. they do a buzz when you are at the states, the cheapest job with the state department, but you're only in fantasy film, but you can't say a word without the imprimatur of had to be blinking to jake sullivan. truly was he just totally true because we picked him. we thanked him and we made sure he got there just as we helped pick the car and governments in sweden, norway, fenelon, and elsewhere. been working on it for a long time. i'm not sure they at all represent. there are people who fundamentally, or still for some distance from nato and even neutrality, even with this invasion of ukraine. but we engineered jim stocum burke just as shirley is we help the engineer of the victories are those people now predominate
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in those countries, those new members of nato. but i don't sure they'll work out in georgia. you know, the newspapers. this week i got the japanese financial times in that family on new york times, both that like good clockwork, one headline, georgia keep pushing from taking a new born about the massive support for american policy in georgia. and the japanese, after the demonstrated with georgia and people trying to demonstrate against the law, which the european union anyways, going to institute in that countries because the perceived russian threat, it's all gonna work in georgia or is it they over through color revolution? a hey knows, but i smell bill burns and this a although bill would be a re lot to produce a participant. and i think i don't know anymore bills turned into a different person than when i knew him when he was a system sector for new years. near or use an asian um it says,
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why do i have like the basset to moscow? of course, before you became the present, it present headed to see i and he's the one that he's the one that's that's a very, very graphic and correct cable back saying yeah, means net referring to is appreciation of what would happen if we really looked like what are we going to make to grind a member of nato? so we just don't know what happened to? well, i think a, you know, you get so close to power and you have that additional power being able to do almost anything. and that's the ca today. anything with a capital a and it goes to your head, goes to your head swiftly and you have the 1st customer is the president is now and never use a language before, but now they use that language and you understand why intelligence, real, real intelligence, even accurate real intelligence gets turned into the policy because the policy
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dictates what the intelligence can say. i had a conversation today with someone who was asking me about an article about our in our, the little state department intelligence entity. which is right about vietnam, write about a rack, write about afghanistan and so forth. they said there's an article out to that effect. was that true? and i said, well, it's true with respect to one of the 16 the agencies within the intelligence community. but they're very small, they're very townsend, very professional. they're all experts regionally, language wise, and so forth. but it's not the truth that they were correct in assess the article and boards, they offered alternative advice to then d. c. i director central intelligence or other intelligence communities within the complex, but they were more or less correct in the general scheme of things and all those situations. but no one listens through the. my boss sector call did not listen to
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the lower the ca, to prepare him for the web w. m. d presentation. with regard to a rack. in february of 2003, i asked him to let me take the assistant secretary of state for intel into the research to see i wouldn't again he for bad me to do that. at that point, i should have resigned and wish i had. but i have later figured out why he didn't want me to take him over there, because then he would have had a real ax to throw it george tenet when he need to. but if the through that accent george kennedy be drawing it to dick training and george bush and these are more through the george said that then then boss of the c i but i mean uh, yeah, the dnc report to so i read recently as they were mentioning this program is if it's some kind of, you know, amazing, we important call going geo politics. i wish it were as such as the day. and i said in their put notes. but them, i mean, i mentioned the we were talking about the radar system. what about the quote,
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a city whole attack, most coke, city, all the tech does that have any hallmarks of any uh, us proxies even tell you what it has an hallmark for me, it has a hallmark for me from, for what i have seen on more than one occasion, which is not just the wrong contra, where it really got into the papers and really both publicizing all most got all reagan and peach. people don't understand how close reagan came to being page over on contra. but i hadn't seen it in a while until i came back in the government and then i realized it was alive and well. and that is the and i see going operational, the national security council, a statutory body designed by the congress to more or less check the president. not do anything other than that. that is to say that they won't be more franklin roosevelt and so forth. so they great and this body of people with him, the president would have to consult to include his own primary cabinet members.
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well, the other is then i see is golf erased? also answer your question and a long way to get to the answer. but it had all the hallmarks of victoria, no one victoria and the one had contacts with the as off, but i and she had contact with the other show we say less than savory characters in ukraine. and in addition, through our actions in syria, we had contact with isis leaders, c i, a, and the us marines actually got into a firefight in syria and almost killed one another or cause casualties until they realize what was happening. because one side was after isis and the other side was weird licensed. so it had all the hallmarks of of victoria newland parting shot after, you know, she knew she was going to be fired or she knew she was going to be removed. so she goes rogue and she provides the context to ukraine with isis members and you have
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what you have. i don't know that that happened, but i would not be surprised if it did, which i think will shock a lot of uh, obviously russians and people around the world. i mean them, victoria, victoria, new than the i should say. that explains why just the other day you see a reply to this show, but she was going to come on. she suddenly passed a coming on the show. why, why did she go? by the way? because obviously you think someone like that's korea, would it be ended by the lake phone cool, over there, made and cool all those years ago that but yet to korea just went from strength to strength. what, how far did you go to get yourself fired by a blinking state department structure? uh, the sound of jo wide. well, i take what i was just postulating or what i was speculating on. got her fired. i think she was rogue. i think she used her
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position and gone rogue. she was doing things that may be general breedlove, the old boy from europe. we used to ride his motorcycle down into the environs and talked to people. people realize breedlove was at ramstein for almost 3 years before he became sacked here for 40 years. and he loved to ride his bicycle all over europe, his motorbike, big old, big old motorbike. and breedlove i. i compare breedlove, the curtis sl may if you're familiar with the movie, dark doctor strange law. the general in that movie is a caricature of curtis my, the man who bombed tokyo and killed more people in the fire bombing that we deal with the 2 atomic bombs. most americans don't know anything about and the man who outside the room, when kennedy was deliberating with the executive council about cuba,
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in october of 62, said, according to 2 sources, i have talked to that man all will be killed. because, you know, kennedy was not elect the military option with regard to cuba. these are the kind of characters that get this country in trouble from time to time in victoria and new and just added her name to the list to. well, just finally, it looks possible that trump will be elected in november of trump, of course, who uh, as regards what you were talking about, ca cutouts. uh, you know okay there and nice of dashing uh, syria e as, as an aged uh, got some philharmonic that one of the come on is a fight against. uh, uh, i just, i actually in syria, but trump did say recently or that he ordered it. he wouldn't have the guts to go there and do it. and well, he didn't serve in the military. all right? but i think there was a good reason for that. i think he's kind of feeds in that area and then going to be nice, even though he said he said
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a. and so i'm interview recently that he could maybe pause and julian massage with that, uhm without him, john list today are suffering all around the world. globally, have, as he is incarcerated, and that's who makes prison a bite and won't die. i suppose. what do you think about the chances of julian assange living to fight another day as he's tortured in london by british authorities? i'll put it so thankfully if trump wouldn't pardon me, i'd vote for charl kinda larry wilkerson. thank you. thank you. and that's it for the show of condolences to the survivors of u. s. u. k u bones and palestine will be back on monday to ask the grandson of a signatory to his rails. 1948 declaration of independence, whether genocide in gods that means the end of his route until then you can keep a judge 5 or will that social media. if it's not sensitive, you will country and i to a channel going underground tv on the com to let you know the episodes of going on
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started by line. please can be satisfied for the importance of we can never be kind of a station, so that transparency is extraordinary. john mystic patrice then just succeeded in finding documents that existed in making them available to the world public. i mean, what could be more box by publishing information and sharing information with the public. he was exercising the rights for a speech he did so in the public interest was to so long realize tends to me. uh and, and, and honestly, to relate to seriously. i know why advice may assume that no one who is the guy that illegals anymore wisely bought. adjustments for him to be on box weighing a 175 used for virtual defense. it's all we're going to let that stay
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the if they can do this to me, they can do this to anyone. and we have a president and a group of fascist. don't want to do anything about it. donald trump claims his court conviction was personally prescriptive by price of the mind and in an effort to stop by his re election. but we get we action from the grounds. punch is crazy. you know that the whole world is looking at us saying, what's going on over there in america, the greatest country in the world are we ever know, have a stella part of the of a felon. so the people in jail most go says ukraine's weston back is all direct participants in the blue that says why didn't we not see system nature weapons to spring deep within.
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