of because if you think about it, delivers this, the america has in the middle east on africa, they use this to saudi arabia. saudi arabia is america's biggest, allied in the middle east. and whenever they have challenges in the middle east, where they have challenges in africa sooner, rebates become a conduit for the united states to engage in these talks, political discussion, diplomacy with the african continent. so the belief is that we can precious saudi arabia to get involved in these piece talks. they couldn't convince sudan. and the one parties in the military and civil leaders to come to negotiation people because saudi arabia is a member of the arab league. so as to that, and they have a common cultural and social relationship. i'll call if i may ask uh, before we run out of time, you know, we know that saddam has a suffering a humanitarian crisis. yet the world seems of turned a blind to, i'd say the sudanese and is polite yet. so when we looked at the, you know,

what goes on in ukraine and is why we think that is when you bear in mind that the united states is supposed to be one outlet of looking out for your interests as well. i think when we talk about dnc, looking at it for anybody's interest united states foreign policy is based on the doctrine of kissinger where you look out for your interest. so if something doesn't serve your interest, you will not actively promoted ukraine service or interest because the warranty ukraine is weakening the russians and is the idea. so we can the russians through ukraine. so they have an interest in the war in israel, israel's american ally, but at the same time their strong push from supporters of palestine to address these in manitoba and crises in the genocide that is taking place there. but now when it comes to the sudan, they're turning a blind eye, and this is nothing new. they're turning a blind eye to student. they're kind of gone. i to the congo. they're trying to blend. it's the things that happen across africa. so there's really nothing new because it's not a major interest in those countries. because of when you talk about humanitarian crisis,

what is happening is so that is humanity in crisis. and it needs to be addressed and it needs the attention. but it's not getting the attention as ukraine or as the issue of palestine. yeah, we'd have to leave with them, i'm afraid. but it was on the found of orders console to mr. i called the a pleasure, so thank you so much for your time. thank you, haven't wow that route. so this is out. good to have you with us here on our see international policy dot com. great. so is that i'd say we'll be back in about 30 minutes. you for your part. and leadership depends tenacity in journalism and publishing. 2010 asylum just being held in aggressively narrow a dock cold. and coolest spaces has been since the 7th of december and 2010 and $1.00 for for another. and we have now here of

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can ever claim to be that however quoted is so important. so we can makes can never be of a statement. so i have transparency is an extraordinary drawn list. take a chief on you see i repeatedly propose can not bring the wicked weeks down there from the dorian embassy in london, signed him to the united states, some senior trump administration officials and c i. executives even discussing fascination assigned to coined former intelligence officials. the spanish courts had evidence that there were discussions of boys and they join. nothing new from the embassy east operations were being slammed under the directorship of like pompeo. just a single moment in the afternoons. ready pattering per box, i'm as kind of sonya for training in parents raised the question of the yahoo story

size of the say i brought to the attend up on assessing identity massage, which actually led to a hold of him for about when inside. yes yes i'm sure we know. ready what i say i is interested in mr. assignments and walk some of the types of step payment sites and thought about it. one thing interested, it's a find out what products are you the kid map? i'm good. how can these courts approve an extradition request? under these conditions, how can they accept an extradition to the country, the closet, to kill julian, the content, to kill a publisher? and because of what he published, this goes to the fundamentals of press freedom and of democracy. we knew when julian was in the embassy, that there was a high likelihood that the embassy was being spied upon by the united kingdom by

the united states. what we didn't know until elizabeth came forward that the security company employed by the ecuadorian embassy to provide security is joanne and to embassy staff. was capturing information in breach in the terms of their agreement with the ecuadorian government and providing it to parties in the united states. it is a alleged that we're doing it at the behest of the c i a e. c global, the security company that was hard to protect. julian was actually spying on him and sending the camera feed, send the sound back to the usa, back to the see i through solitary confinement through the character assassination through the or well in legal process through the violation of his most basic human and legal rights. one thing after another was like this theater of the absurd stripping him of his basic human dignity,

the newest edition that gets to the listing fee, the, the newest $1.00, and we pick any of these spots you east, i'm wanting to, the seller being deported orders me she wasn't mean theo, the, the, the main thing is they seem to be the new but not the go and just get a little guess is inclusion. and when you is there seem to get up, i will use which of it built in that fairly much constant. is it showing you the new name that i see? and the reason most of them know is that there's no point in montana that we will be seen, the 14, not the, and it was enough to them then, which is what i mean. does the literacy building one of the see to shut up if this was sort of they got low because they should, like i said, if i meet the person ever seem to be see the familiarities with them egos. you said this and compared to what i mean are doing this thing, is there someone in the sea get up with i don't see the last letter. you see the conjugate or they got the

kind of thing you have been going through isn't up at a show that in, if you don't have condition to perform the video. and if i use it in c, and then if i use the content of young unified years and then what do you basically present them the video to medieval d o b? i mean to a, but i like that even in that capacity intellect. one that up as an extending now there's some discrepancy on that question though. you can wish to the team on data that's going to the owners of inclusiveness, definitely be able to look and know the limits. and even ment i don't know. i thought that is still a, a new place is we set that up in a sound like a deal which of the import nursing to us in the day is going to bring them into the store. it. i've seen it, other, it seemed to me i was able to see was yet, but i said it seemed to muskrat is english. i can either see, i'm sure you see them. my impression of him when i 1st saw him in 2011 said he was young. i mean, it was healthy. and he was extraordinarily correct. the

witness. he was presented to the court for the 1st time. and he drives to stand up to talk to the judge and seek another stand up. you have a person that is derived from the outset. doctors for assigned had express concern about, you know, the potential for depression and, and suicide. but in particular, that psychological stress predisposes to cardiovascular consequences, heart attacks and strokes. it's no surprise that he actually did have a stroke, and it makes it a continuing matter of or since the movies and all the countries he could be telling the way with much more quickly to comp really happen

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it, you know, the kind of huge organization. pretty much julian. and what about the secret communication devices? he had any laptop? what he had was in these little bag was a you know, when i nuclear bone in fact, uh hey, was a young man with a vision and big ideas. and the most massive lake and the most important leech that had ever occurred in his backpack. the only way of familiar with hertz is abuse. we expose attempting to criticize the messenger to distract from the power of the message

regarding himself. as on the run, he did talk about the consequences and i'll have to say what, what he thought the consequences would be. is it that would hound him to the ends of the us? he was dead rod and i always did wrong. i would never have anticipated, but they would have acted with such endless ferocity that he did so. i mean quite a man to walk into that and that's what he expected. and, and indeed that's what he, what he got. the how did we get to this point, rights to freedom of expression and a free press expanding and developing. or are they eroding to understand, at present, we must know out past the ever since we have had the ability

to articulate f thoughts through virtualization. we have wanted to express ourselves without fear of retaliation, censorship or sanction the 5000 years human civilization has been the best way to establish, maintain, and defend outright, to free speech, the impulse and the status on a bridge power on f boys beat and continued to be a threat to free speech democracy and a free press stage, a still using persecution, torture and violence toward off challenges from their citizens. the playbook of our talk receive has be well land and

repeated the gun. these philosophy of non violent resistance, anesthetic uh, which means holdings to truth would lead to influence active us, including martin luther king, jr, nelson mandela and daniel ellsberg. after all this time of far at ease are still adverse to being challenged. the the

look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except we're so shorter is that conflict with the 1st law should we live in justification. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence. and the point obviously, is to create a trust, rather than fit the various jobs. i mean, with the artificial intelligence, we have somebody in the team and the robot must protect this phone existence was alexis the

february, 202121 schuman rights free speech, and civil liberty advocacy organizations, wrote a joint left to, to the us attorney general, expressing the profound concern to the ongoing criminal and extradition proceedings relating to julia and i saw it was just a great threat. press freedom, both in the united states and abroad. the article 19 of the universal declaration of human rights protects the rights for a speech. we have the right to face page for that can be limited in certain circumstances. for example, to protect public health and safety or to protect our protect of others or to protect national security. in julian's case, he is protected by that right by publishing information and sharing information with the public. he was exercising the right to free speech. he did so in the public interest, the ceiling a published journal for publishing information. the public interest does not comply

with international standards on face page and not protection under the universal declaration of the european convention on human rights article 10 ought to protect julian from this extradition. we went to the united nations working group, an opportune detention which came down with a ruling saying that because he was forced remaining amc to protect himself from us ex tradition. julian's position inside the embassy amounted to detention, and about the tension was on the for an arbitrary the response of various trying problem is and various is trying. governance has even been one of silence, just wanting to sweep it under the carpet,

and forget about it. alternatively, it's been one of complete and utter acquiescence and subservience to the united states, like with somehow an extra states of america, and that we have to do whatever i want julia gil odd, was locked in step with the united states. i can reconvene all sorts of negative aspersions cost on julian assigns. like he was some sort of terrorist kellogg, stanford the straight and the official a straight and persecution of to land. kevin rod largely didn't say anything about julian assigned assignment tiny habits. then we go on to malcolm turnbull wanting to just say that this guy deserves defies. just the same with scott morris and what, what sort of justice did i want him defies. just as for was for doing the work of a journalist. it is time for this matter to be brought to a conclusion and that i dont express any personal sympathy with some of the actions

of mr. ascent. organize. he did say that he thinks this matter should be brought to a pause quickly. i don't know what that means. i don't know whether that means just get on with it, get him out of it, put him on trial. it's almost as if the sign likes the previous government that he should have been brought to trial earlier and punished and convicted earlier. but that's not talking to the cold problem. the cold problem isn't that he hasn't been prosecuted and prosecuted quickly enough. the cold problem is that is named prosecuted and prosecuted in the 1st place. the quiet diplomacy was same in relation to julia massage. really does look a lot like bugger all diplomacy this. this literally could happen to anybody if they travel over, say, and they offend the u. s. government, and it shouldn't matter which government is targeting australians. you should

always have your own government e mail on the, on running that no want to waste the godaddy illegally. any more war has been bought, adjustments, but the court for towing seats behind boss weighing a 175. he's a virtual defense. it's going to lift that, stay the when the government todd, say what they doing to bring an australian citizen hi, who's facing potentially a life imprisonment. and they refusing to give that answer when they directly questioned on the floor a problem. and we have also a democratic problem initially, each die of sending you to disclose the laws and now corruption, the war crimes. we would come off with the face of the stock, then we will do everything we possibly get. took flush you. that's the message by

sending that is what i end up giving up on joliet assad. oh, we're going to let that stay. no, we are not the i said tom, it does. my boss points that enough is enough. there was a quick detail that ology. they've changed their words carefully because i feel like they are between the deadline day, per se, stay site and office and off they want to ended. but it's quite a big us about how they or into the fact that neither our prime minister, all the attorney general, full publicly criticize the united states. the fact that they were fusing to do that, even in the most obscene circumstances, goes to show just how subservient the strong and government has become to this kind of overarching policy position for the united states. that's not a relationship of friends, that equals, that's a relationship,

a deputy sheriff. there's a friends of julie and a sons' group in the federal parliament. and the numbers are building, noticing the grants, but across empowerment. but the bodies critically missing. it's getting the attorney general and the problem is the one gulf load type thing to control simple change. so there's so much 10 extra bowls. journey to the united states is the astray and government. i don't believe from moment they want to because they are integrated in the united states strategic control of the part of the world. but this government hasn't had on of public health to provide enough pressure on people saying, this is a man who has committed no crime, bring him home to clear yourself,

independent. they're all highly improbable these things because i've never known the straight and goldman since 1975, but has declared itself independence. a previous coalition government brought the john was peter dressed back from egypt, they helped to bring back kylie more gilbert and the others. the exception to lane's. uh why, how the hell is the situation being allowed to get this uh, uh, from diagnose someone should have said no, no, no, no, no, julian massage is an australian citizen who is a forwarded all the rights and liberties organ, astrology, and, and the night came what country you why you are not going to have your most applied to our citizens when they're not even in your country. the obama

decided not to call for julians expedition because what we key we did by publishing this week to material was no different from what the new york scientist and they called at the new york times problem. the trump administration, after the release of all 7, was essentially co worst by the c i a and the intelligence community to expedite a call for the expedition on june the by the administration again beholden to the intelligence community, has continued that process of attempting to extradite jo, if i became president and i would pardon and join us on shondae one, i think the end present the end of jill and inside is. and if i had

a goal to everything that american democracy is supposed to stand for, we're supposed to be in the exam. 3 democracy were supposed to be the world's global champion for freedom of speech, freedom of expression. the worse for suppose the stands of the idea that the people on the government and we have, we have to pass that need to and the power to criticize or incumbent without fear of reprisal without fear of imprisonment or punishment. the the

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a sovereign, the consumer has finished with the ruling african national congress. all the moving is majority in parliament for the 1st time in the 2 years. it will ask the form of government who is doing this is done by those who produce and allegedly supply the system. steve print scan and it does happen without the participation of the premium military person. lot of the inside of the name. so to sit on site and see the inside some rough intelligence people design capable of using the western a weapon systems on the road. us as you f, as in joe biden, approve of those at time. also head talk of western european and italian wiggins striking and killing in the heart of russia. it seems very, very dangerous and breakfast to be visiting.