thanks to the benefits of for an interest, even if it is in direct contradiction to slip back is national interest. while it seems to be a common sense, a leader of a country is protecting his country's national interest ahead of anybody else. both learn all we've been discussing. you can always head over to our website oxy. done . com, the, the hello again everybody. i'm rick sanchez. this is direct impact and this is what we're going to be talking about today. i'm on a level here today as to where we are, what might be possible, but i need your help. everyone wants peace. now. let's raise their voices.

president bible sounding like a man. he doesn't watch. the news tells the world, but it must ask for peace. hall, where's it been, then he announces that he is real. have reached a piece deal. did he really though? see, this gets weird and i'm going to take you through it. i'm rick sanchez, get ready for a direct impact. the the . so here's what happens uh, that even shocked me to a certain extent yesterday. so present a button comes out, right? the steps up to the microphone any announces this historic piece deal. and i'm thinking, oh my god, this is important, right? he's got a new piece deal that he's announcing, and he says, israel has agreed to it. he kind of stumbles his way through it. you know, as he often does. but in the book that i'm thinking you got to give this guy credit

. this is a powerful message, israel as now offering israel is offer a comprehensive new proposal to roadmap to an enduring cease fire and release of all hostages. the united states has work relentlessly to support is really security, get you mandatory and supplies, and the guys to get a ceasefire and a hostage deal to bring this work to and, and bring this for to an ad. right. i mean, wow, impressive, i'm sitting here thinking this guys finally pulled it off right there. you have at the present in the united states telling the world of israel has agreed to a deal that would end is this massacre of palestinians that we've been seeing if true. this is an enormous step in the right direction. and it's going to show that mister biden and the united states still have some clout, some power over the government of a being. and yeah, who despite what we've seen up to now, right. right,

right. maybe not so much because then what happened gets really weird. stay with me here. israel's prime minister beeping that's and yahoo has been asked to respond to this deal. right? oh, my god, mister prime minister, apparently you and mr. biden, to have this deal where you're going to, there's things going to come doing it, you know, want to be met and you know, says one is aspect, what deals, what deals this gets ugly. here's the headline. put it up that the yahoo rejects biden's peace plan. it's being called a snob. so he is really, government says now we ain't got no deal with us with you mister by ignore the us method. yeah. so once again seems to be telling the white house what it will or will not do. and he said they're basically saying, look, we're not working on the us as terms. you have no right to come in here or do a peace deal for us or announce a peace deal on your terms. and they do this,

of course, despite using us funding and us weapons to do so. so let me give you some of the background here. nothing. yeah. who called the binding plan, a non starter known way that he's going to agree to it. and then he goes on to say that israel's gonna stay the course and continue. it's a tax on gaza targeting rafa. i should mention that part of the reason for the method yahoo snob has to do, and this is maybe fair to him, to be fair to mister netanyahu. his cabinet is saying, you take this deal with bite and then we're going to force you out. so look, manila, it seems to me i made maybe i should ask as a question, doesn't that mean that the us prestige them the power, the credibility of our government of washington is being determined by a couple of guys were running the shots and he is really war cabinet telling me that the whole what he can get do who then tell is the present united states what

he can or can't do so definitely moving back. i think. i think it's worse. i think it's worse than that. i think maybe nathan. yeah. who was like joe, joe, who, who said what the last, i think this is yet another case of the by the end administrator and hearing what they want to hear. they are are the best statement in the world in their own heads . we've heard consistently throughout this war that how much has been wanting to negotiate. if it's always been the israeli side that insist on foraging on with this mission emission in which they have failed to identify the ultimate goal. why didn't desperately need the wind right now, rick? anywhere he can get it. we just saw that that uh, $300000000.00 temporary naval peer or just fall apart after a gust of yeah. and blew through. i also heard of his kite was lost in that natural disaster. this is yet another bush style mission accomplished banner on the big

navy carrier bite and put this put in his mouth. so often, rick, that the media won't even make anything of this because you know, they can't keep out. no, no, no, you're absolutely right. bed. and you also right. and i think one of the most important points that you just made is something that we maybe haven't reported enough. there have now been several occasions were from us. i'm no fan of homeless . okay. but how boss has said we're willing to give you the hostages. we're willing to call a truce. let's sit down and talk about it. and it's is we'll and let them know who's government. who said, hell no, we don't want to be a part of it. no, we want to continue bombing the gaza and rafa and the palestinians who are there right? 36000 people are dead at this point. meanwhile, meanwhile, the goal, what exactly that's that's, that's the question. meanwhile, in this crazy world where the white house is supporting a country that is killed, 36000 people 98 percent of those by the way, our civilians including women and children, the u. s. is now punishing hard. wait for it. cuba. that's right. cuba.

the us is keeping cuba on the list of countries that are quote, sponsors of terrorism. so, why am i mentioning this yesterday? cuba as minister of foreign relations question. the move noting that unlike is real, he was willing to cooperate fully. he says with the us state department and in between the name the countries are now coming to campus defense. so let me take you through this. here they are. these are the countries in the region who are asking the us to take cuba off the terrorist list. mexico on doris, olivia, police, dominica, nicaragua, she left venezuela, columbia, and brazil. now, if you're wondering why cuba is even on the list in the 1st place, which is a good question, this goes back to when cuba invited both sides of the civil war in columbia to a peace deal. and i ran a summit, right? the deal fell through and then some of the columbia and rumbles stay behind. cuba

gave them asylum. columbia said you shouldn't do that. we want them extradited, goes right. who knows. but when cuba refused columbia and the. busy accused nevada of harboring terrorist and that's why they say now to this day that cuba is somehow a state sponsor of terrorism around the world. look, criticizing q before it's 400 domestic policy over the years. that's fair and people should do that. i think there's plenty to criticize, and many cubans would agree for the us state department to call to a carriage country at this point in time with washington's recent track record seems not quite a bit. maybe even almost the hardy, you tell me, and you know, what bothers me about this as a person who was born in cuba, who s family in cuba. over the years, the people were paying the price for this us designation of the people of cuba. they've lost their right to compete in the open market. they can't trade, they can't, but they can't borrow. they can exchange good with the outside world, which means they don't have the benefit of a fair playing field because they're being blackballed by us. politicians is mostly

for political reasons and by the state department. when you consider iraq, afghanistan, syria, and what's happening now and gaza, this terrorism designation against cuba. it seems like exactly the type of thing that's only gonna further engage the global self community to call into question the foreign policy decisions that come out of washington these days and their credibility. i mean, and by the way, i do think that's a big deal. no, it's not so much about cuba. it's about people seeing the united states policy toward cuba going while you're picking on cuba. i mean, really? yeah, i mean worth noting, rick, it's, it's not just latin american countries chime in on this either late last week. china weighed in the foreign ministry spokeswoman mountain being said at a press briefing in beijing that quote, china firmly opposes us interference into both internal affairs under the

pretext of counter terrorism. yeah, she went on to condemn, continued us political suppression and economic sanctions against the island. and on top of that rec, it's mixed signals coming from the state department just last month. tony blinking and made a public statement to remove cuba from its short list of countries that they deem what they call less than fully cooperative in the way of counterterrorism, saying on, on may 15 that cuban and us law enforcement were again working together on counterterrorism. and other efforts, so i don't know how we squared this, rick, i mean on the one hand, they say 2, but is a state sponsor of terror on the other. they say cuba is helping co operating and just feeling terror. yeah. hard. it's hard to sift through but important to point out. and i think it's one of those things that once again goes right to the global south community that we often talk about. and speaking of the global south community guests, which may listen to this, which made

a country is suggesting it wants to join bricks, bricks, turkey in turkey is foreign minister says his country wants to join the bricks. group of nations. bricks isn't an acronym that represents as many of you know, the watch are newscast association of the 5 major emerging economies in the world, brazil, russia, india, china, and south africa. but since they've been joined, as you probably know, as well by many, many other countries, in fact, everybody wants in, it seems like for administer of turkey con for don said he cannot ignore the fact that bricks is an important cooperate. pardon the cooperation platform that offers country is a good alternative to western thinking. now, manila, this is almost in comprehensible. imagine a top member of nato, with, with one of the biggest armies in europe, by the way, turkey a us military base their in their country joining brooks. i mean,

i'm not sure this is going to happen, but i'm and then we're certainly not saying it. well, we're just saying this guys come out and said we're interested. but just to mention that a country inside nato, as big as turkey wants to either flip to the other side or be, or, or play on both teams. that's, that's big. that's not where the that's newsworthy. that's something to pay attention to. well rick, i, i like in this to a dating analogy because really for policy is a lot like dating. i know you've been married a long time. i'm married too. but if we, if we think back, if you consider that turkey has long chased after the you and the u. s. flirted back sometimes giving mixed signals. turkey continues to get courted by the you, through the nato club, that they go to the right. well, turkey has been waiting for a reading for a long time, but the you never puts a ring on it. so now there's this new guy in town named brooks. yeah,

all the girls are blushing because we're just has a magical summer. we're really came out of puberty for any suddenly looking sexy. and now turkey is, is i am bricks, but ultimately i think it's just to make the you jealous, and the boys and girls at the nato club there talk to. so ultimately, i think turkey would date, brooks, but wouldn't really, i think, really only wants the ring from the you and keep going. club nato. i like it. you're, you're making me blush because it reminds me of how i got my wife or maybe she got me. i don't know with somewhere in the front of the land in her new land in her way . took her off the bark and put a ring on it. put a ring on it, that's a great, that's rice and well done. that's only only you good vanilla. thank you so much. when we come back, by the way, speaking of briggs, there's an election in south africa that could spin that very important country in a completely different direction, possibly away from the global south. so now we're talking about this going in the

other direction. we're going to be talking to clinton zavala. he's a reporter with the african stream as a pan africa media outlet. and we've got a lot to learn when it comes to africa and certainly south africa, which is certainly been receiving and share of news lately. we will be right back. don't go away. the the,

[000:00:00;00] the, i look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings,

except we're so charters at conflict with the 1st law show alignment as a patient. we should be very careful about visual intelligence. and the point obviously is to create a trust rather than fit the various jobs. i mean with the artificial intelligence we have so many with him in the a robot most protects his phone. existence was on the right. welcome back. i'm rick sanchez. let's talk about something that we should talk about more often, i think joining us now as a journalist who covers out the african politics. recently, he wrote this about the countries recent elections with the prospect of the a and c being maybe voted out of power. he writes, there are 4 or 5 black individuals in the african national congress or given

massive shares of white phone companies. so the companies look like they're at the forefront of an economic transformation. joining us here as clinton sala, he joins me now from nairobi. he rides for african stream and he's good enough to spend some time with us clinton. thanks so much for being with us. i think you're like, it's a pleasure to be here. let's start with what you write based on the fact that look, i'll just give you my perspective as an american, right? or as a citizen of the world really. when you think of the a and c, nelson mandela, the strong gold headlines, an institution that seem to change the world at the time and, and what you're writing and what i'm reading and what many people are perceiving with this election is at the amc a v a n c, it used to be right. you? yeah,

correct. so i think we have to look at some of the transition and so that happened . we should remember that's a part they did in because they're white. so that becomes fully funded. realize that people, they've, what the part they ended because they couldn't make plans in there. so that's kind of going to be the latest that i paid was by so be this, the customer has been sanction lifted on. right. so what they do, they decide that they would need to transition to black governments while i get fitted them. mean to me that domino when they come to me. so walk me through that and they let a, to a pop of what business me lead most to buy the executives from the american corporation, which i've added that to him was probably the biggest. my income is one day to advocate continent. mm hm. they struggled to via web and see was busy neg zone as a method in the preventative while we mix up cause they had come to the in addition that apart they did not be sustained for more than 20. and so they needed to make contact with the people they sort of do

a one to be in charge of the economy after the collapse of about these very sort of from the context you had people like to run my posts on and he brought a low budget for 50, becoming close to the captains of industry. if i can quote them that's, i'm sort of white companies both dropped the in number a significant amount of shares because those black can be just pull is reinvented as it will be black people each they call me back to the doctor says it was in well didn't for testing that this is under the new government where they wanted to match what to say, that this is, it would not be touched by the, in the government. and that's all the beginning of the n c. so if you, for your shuttle going to vision, trying to going to vision way at that jello g is lots collision for smart and be something just a moment. so rather than being the organic movement, we all thought it was for the organic movement that it eventually turned into. i

think what we ended up with was let me just say it. you tell me if i'm over using this word corrupt what you're going to describe is corrupted when you're doing something for purposes other than helping the people of your country and you're taking money or taking business opportunities. you're basically corrupting your organization now. yeah, 100 percent of the money? i think i talked to that is the quarter up sounds like i'm on the meet, you talk to the not be they have a good mid or if we have the cortex, no need to. this is i'm just wearing. so this is select group of individuals become mouse, i need your name of product and some of them that will be provided beyond ends. while at the same time, most of the people who enjoy the title or but, but these people who are short on the fees via living conditions, how many, almost the same is in the 1st 2 dickens. as, as i hear you say that i've been thinking if v a n c loses these elections, which it sounds like,

that's the direction that we're heading toward. then who will form the new government and, and what kind of individuals are those? so there's the, i'm in the lecture that'd be hit the results of the non so announced the n c port list, then of 50 percent. it's while the boards a number that is needed for the full government. so what, what that implies is that the n c one needs to go into i'm alliance with by another political part to form government. so they need very critical position. quote, the only other parts of it can going to and the last week the stay that they coordinates, we don't fight those, which is a big, it broke our from the n c in 2014. so it is that part of which is really from africa. i'm, she's also very much lift just like the mix it in the mines which include the additional additional bit mines. i'm also each ones that the central bank also dr.

got, should be nationalized. it was a warranty. they, they did it that way. a truck permission of the economy and the that the mass within still struggle to reach because it's such a part of the business community inside pickup and also to the international business committee. who are likely not going to allow the industry to take these measures. then the other alternatives that it is the have, if it democrats with colors not a democratic i, am you say why it's led to talk to you that the domain that gets most of the support from the white community. and so these parts and you said part where we did, they started for business communities or she for this money to the end of the democratic colors. so and so they kind of his mother's yet if that happens and, and pardon me, i didn't mean interrupt. i thought you were finished with that thought, if that happens most especially the lighter that you just described, where most of the folks who are part of the old white establishment kind of get back in power will,

will they then get away from the global south thinking that we've seen himself have forgotten said south africa is about a breakfast. i mean they're the ones who are leading the push away from the monetization efforts in the western ideology that we see in the london and washington and moving toward russia, china india, china. i think i said china twice, but uh, the middle east for example, what, what's gonna happen to that movement that's taking south africa away from western ideology and moving more towards global self ideology. if this were to happen that you describe when this government is formed. so if it was to happen it to mean to be, if it took to central position from basically because why the different parts of color that looks up or on the rest of the country did the text color, size of a little underpin when the question of him from the democratic i asked you, saw the lead behind is well, if, if draws direly, political movements,

lots of come up strongly into supporting the as well. they've gotten busted into the decision to, for the decision to take these or to evaluate the data. so that's why it is very difficult for me to think of the 2 political button meeting halfway. because even on the front, the democratic i asked for plug is or to a point, he says that the n c has page 2 minutes drawn from the corner. we can get like people to participate much when they go to me. the point is quite broad, visited where you're going to be compartment. also the point is where the ends and i've tried to turn some more like the black hands close at the moment white. so nothing comes or more than a civil district at central belonged to the country. this is despite them making the 80 percent of the population. so the n c has. uh, yeah, it sounds vast the, i mean, it sounds like they hate each other as much as republicans and democrats hate each other in general here in the united states, except when you're talking about corruption and foreign policy, then they all come by. i agree with each other, but it sounds like there's

a real disparity here. i guess my question to you as we start to wrap up this interview is what i know you're not as to say or you can't predict the future. but do you think that we're going to be heading in that direction where a party that is the polar opposite of what the south african government has been doing for the last year will take shape to? so i think it is, i'm a pulitzer and if you've gotten into trouble really supports, i like the democrats, the last you actually go to the fiscal position because these parts these many weaknesses the n t i book a robust and cannot do more testing. so if middle by my lamp switch, strictly new movements that come, that's also that's a continuance. and then also if i not lie on me this, i don't think i'm coming to sparks. so i think these blocks within the movement is what they pour the most democratic movements. the want of pause in outlining between the democratic colors and the treasure young. i want to pause cause the

democratic alliance has been calling for the property of the name of woods. and so i don't think, i mean how much it's, i don't think it's the kind of by the democratic. i also have the say, that's the body. yeah. this is where the democratic allows you try it, which are wicker rights then the n c and use composition targets. yeah. to get a lot of support from the trade union movement. and so that's okay. so to be clear, you think the amc by maneuvering positioning and who knows what else will be able to somehow form some kind of coalition that keeps enough power on its side. so that the ideology of the country, the governance or better yet the thinking that comes out of the johannesburg doesn't flip is that what i'm hearing you say exactly. but there was no, that's not because a lot of people, but people that think they fear they back to us to the citizens on some internal functions within the n c. cause that they were to book on the left of the

democratic alas, that went to be seen as fitting outs, trip part, where some individuals in that practice of 2 of the properties. so most likely that's what you're going to rate in the, in the out of 2 people that's, that's amazing. and the fact that you have such a grasp of this and have been able to take us through it and, and help us here in the united states and around the world to understand something which seems so complex is really remarkable. and it's a credit to you and your skills as a journalist and as a writer. thank you. clinton for taking time to join us today and for taking us through this. we appreciate it. i thank you so much, i hope to make another appearance on the well, we very much like having you on and we hope to see you again. and that's our show. and remember, as you know, we always say uh, one of my idioms around here is always look outside your own box. choice don't live

in boxes. sometimes you have to go to nairobi or south africa to find the truth. i'm rick sanchez. we'll see you again next to the, [000:00:00;00] the

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