it, we had a clear answer to that. the fact is that the noun borders live with a stunning surprise, but denying more being so beach every body and all right. the georgia, the bottom and sent back is unlikely to affect this template, the or direction of movies to complement. the primary reason is that the b to b contested election in alliance with several small political groups. and this correlation together as one a majority of seats environment is the i n d i a. what is that? i mean, obviously it spells india. but this is one of the coalitions. well, there's several of these bodies. they are some of these groups. they are provincial groups based in indian states. they have no national agenda, no, no national vision. so these proven, sure. oops, uh,

allied with a b, j b. the fact is that lying on support from some of these groups is unlikely to have a direct bearing on both these national agenda are on his foreign policy. how do we know that is a progress? how do we know what i mean to say we, this is chandra, chandra by move in. i do from the t d p policy in the under per dash. he's currently on bail over ongoing prosecution for a ledge. misappropriation of $44.00 and a half $1000000.00 mentor, unemployed youth. he denies the allegations and the prosecution easy. and how do you know that he doesn't want anything for the body? government in return for his support? well, not to my dues, lucian is limited to on rep for the some of the guy on the dish lamar was, vision is limited to still be are so these are, as i said, state level leaders,

that bodies also state level bodies. they have no, no national ideas, so national minds, they will allow most of these government to run on inspection agenda on its foreign policy. yeah. the investigative arm. those have been ladies who have an exam, as you're saying, so surely they would cad desperately about the catastrophic nature of india's economy. i mean, don't you think in return for making moody prime minister, they wanted a new economy minister instead of normal, or is it the roman? and none of these reason politicians would say to be the pronouncement struck india with this. uh, as i said, because the reason that i'm going to their state and therefore if they want to be

a physical medicine, it will be far, you know, maybe this. so the, to the minister, our defense minister, maybe a problem not even development of stomach thinks like um, minister for health care, what send the paper nation cl, camp up the account. every college of example is another to the local people at the states. never. they would like one of those for 20 years, but certainly not for 9. certainly not fair enough is and no, no, nor do i think any of them wants to be the defense, but it's probably do you have to get onto the foreign policy and it's acting as i said, but so call me this china about 800000000 out of poverty famously in the past, 40 years and years seen 670000000, get a one percent increase in wealth, say just in 201773 percent of that. well it's going to the richest one percent. it's a deeply and secure country. is it not, in terms of it's a increasing inequality while the 1000000000 is,

or was it over 200000000000 is in india 1000000000 as fortunes up 10 times over 10 years. and they have a total of 12 high and indian budgets, and $63000000.00 and pushing them over to you every year. surely these regional king make is that allow moody to become prime minister will want massive funding to sold out their provinces in the india or otherwise they going to face by it a civil disobedience. i think um, i think these baseball leaders would like make the federal government spending on the website as it is, it is uh, subsidy bill has paid spirally because money has to be quite focused on very low or historically marginalized classes. so here's the welfare schemes. have expanded the subsidy bill has gone through the rules and these provincial

eaters with them on with that. but it seems as far as the body is concerned, that is all again, that capitalism, by its way, h ha, remotes inequality. and not many people. notice that china, even though is a communist state, is more on a quote that india, if you go by i'm is what bank data. so it equality. yeah. as an invoice the i am as well, bank nature. i agree. argument wants you to good sense of data. never, although of course, the 800000000 out of poverty one his name f one kayley, a lot of the global. so i don't trust that data intrinsic because they're washington institutions against it. but okay, you talk about data that you are saying moody is it is highest household that and now 87 percent debt to g d p ratio, which is days away now from my indian solver and debt entering the global debt market. is that going to affect you for moody has to make deals on that and you're

saying he's not going to have to do anything in return. what about the fact that the united states own so much and in depth and risk just strangely, i presume maurice just being a vehicle from which fine ownership of indian this over in depth is, is both. is this going to affect india? i mean, technically, china has own some of the debt has been supporting effect the social welfare programs you are saying mode is being responsible for as well in this as a problem. yes. okay. not a heavy in the nation. and certainly it's not coming heavily in the nation. it needs to get it's, um, it's not, it's is an order. so let's go to the patient and the last actually are actually has narrowed. so there's some encouraging signs. in other words, the fastest growing major economy in the last financial year,

which ended just on march 31st. india cvp grew by 8 wind to a person. that's a very impressive growth. and in fact, even though the last one are in this gina because was very impressive. and in contrast, china's for that they belong to the nomic boom as which they come to man. so the fact aspect is the subject tree looking like robust and also the election results. what do you think that that is that um would represent quote unquote in your chapter of big positions. but in india to practice politics, positions tend to feel division, especially when they challenge infringed interests. we saw that in, well, the 2nd time you had to repeal his bomb reform loss. okay. you're all positioned back. what tests?

well, those was the phone calls were quite meaningful. that start to pay, that does not get rid of aspirations, not just demonstrations in world history. and when you talk about comparing a economic growth, of course, many people saying the indian good figures of 8 percent look impressive of that just because of india collapse. economic age during the cove it. and when you talk about fiscal rectitude, you sound like the neo liberalism of the congress by the end, the b j. b that have got in giving to the mess that it is. and to not unlike communist china saving the lives of 800000000 people instead just creating stratified appallingly on the cool of course more starvation in sub saharan africa and so on. and in fact, that is why, of course, moody has to rely on culture, was to get people indians attacking indians for political game. although

it's failed this time to an extent, i think you paid the very dock and on the big picture. the fact is that india has a very successful in lifting people out of poverty. it has been doing that aramark the base if you will speak to common indians at the cross of whatever they all describe how their lives have improved significantly in the nomic project. free is quite impressive. the fact is i didn't get this the same fucking challenge just given that size evidence diversity yet cheapens of india, should not be billed it to and why the can be achieved. what's that? why is the last is the majority and it is remarkable as a yeah, it is remarkable how few people they wrote out of poverty compared to china in the

same period. i know india, india has read, is as impressive. not more impressive than china as the fact is that india began late by the way, it's lifting the rate at which people are being left. her property is is the rate is even higher than what china had achieved. but as far as why the beach epi does not translate its economic success into what's in the parliamentary democracy and here, so what's not on translate into seats. for example, the beach. i please watch a nice and really only declined by point 7 percent compared to the national action . and the last election, the beach and the one in combining majority in front of it. and now with just

a decline of 0.7 percent of what share its seat total decline by more then i think $6363.00 seats in the bottom. and so that's a homeless, efficient in, in, in stage one with the model that you're trying to share because that's the actions and in, yeah, depends on how many candidates they are in each constancy. or, you know, how many watts get divided across different bodies and candidates. so it's very difficult to, to not to look at seats and saying that this represents a big deal to one body of the other example. if you take the main opposition body being the national congress and only 199 seats in the bottom. and that's what a half times less than the b j. b. and yet, a quite so many less than publications. there's

a grayed election for the international congress. so i think this is charleston. all india is election needs to be needs to be corrected because the actions of india one are lost on very narrow ships in it one. okay, well well know when you get the one. okay, good. show that the indians in any way uncomfortable to the rise of china, but the professor july, the, i'll stop you the more from before my advisor doing these national security council after this break, the acceptance that i'm here to plan with you. whatever you do, you do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different. whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to planes or do have

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here with the marriages professor of strategic studies and new delhi sense of, of policy research, professor brown. naturally. professor, you were just talking about the intricacies of why we shouldn't interpret moody getting can failing to get the majority as a failure of the b j. b. actually, he did the about the same as the, as you said, the major problem again to read is that judging of fall 2, favorably, the, the congress, a policy that lost a game. but actually speaking of democracy, the power of only galks is the infamous. in west style democracies in nature, nations, especially media magnates, of course in western europe by oregon, britain, and the united states with the model. it was this election fair given you have a, i mean you might want to tell me and the tv and you did the tv, a big tv station and maybe a donnie group. is your media or increasingly being owned by these,

all the gods. it'd been enriched by on the liberal system, but with these 1000000000 is rising to huge amounts of all the gothic power, semi fuel power in india, while the massive stuff well, um it is cool like uh, in other democracies, you'll see all the docs by media ropes that's happening in there too. is a consolidation happening and i think if you look at the picture, this election was not just democrats. ringback exercise, but how is it fair if uh, the media is controlled by pro moody groups as well. there is media and those media. now there there's problem or the media. there was anti movie media. i mean there is a really good luck with sea, but they band which i mean,

i don't think sorry they band tv channels in india and they both have the documents and there's, there's not a single cv time that i've been never banned in. yeah. i know there's no media organization that means obviously it is katara. the station the al jazeera is banned in india and they couldn't send the boat is out there to cover the like, no, of course not. i am, i do there's, there's not a lot of media under which, that one of the reporters of all being banned from covering the indian elections. so this sounds like a democratic country. let's get onto the foreign policy. why. why did moody signs india u. s. military deal in just x and 2023 pentagons. lloyd austin, and the head of the bench again. lloyd austin said just the other day. that is going to be increased military coordination with india. what is behind is american

indian military partnership? just as a brick shanghai cooperation organization, all these different groupings are very thrust aware of the dangers posed by the united states and it's about so states and western europe. yeah. assigned not just one, but 7 or strategic slash. and then the 3 agreements with the united states is beeping at style. so, but the list of the same time in there is also a shooting. it's a long standing relationship and body shop with the rest year. off of that you can walk again by for this patients tried to blame. yeah. deciding with the us. but i'd say effective an in foreign policy is fiercely independent. and that independence has only strengthened on demo the it will not change.

certainly not the americans have loaded the hard weight. that's how much of pressure they can apply. india will not shift from is strategic autonomy. you can maintain an independent foreign policy. that is the government, the, the washington is today. it wants to build an international antique china correlation or the chart op india in the war war war war style based on the line spring. what? because in this case, any formal alliance with any bar you see on the, on the surface, i mean, obviously speaking from this region, the major story is garza, i'm the genocide and as a junk, or is in russia today with the, uh, the bricks, foreign ministers, maybe is easier for india compared to the foreign minister, saudi arabia,

the lines of that. remember it's a ron, ethiopia, that foreign ministers only in russia today because india rode the behaves like a western european buffet state when it comes to foreign policy. as regards modi's support for the lensky moody's support for the genocide, gaza is foreign policy is basic and obviously the a valid hatred for china becoming from members of the moody cabinet. basically, india has turned into a vassal stage of the united states a long way from the band doing conference in the 1950s. or i'm afraid that's a very poor understanding of doing this uh arm policy and it's possession on. definitely issues on the preamble. in the as monday, i'm the very big of a, a needs on scans. if you still side with the wrist as one of the, one gods as concern in the support. it is really the right to retaliate to the heart of. they come mazda across series of october 7. but the key thing and

medicaid prices in gaza has come building. you have to reiterate its long standing support for a donation solution. and as long back the price, the new cost for an independent nation, it seems to me that is or by for long it's broader, more than gaza is undermining its long term security. this protector wall will likely for meant more terrorism of uses for media is deeply concerned by this protected warrant because i don't, it has to be really funny policies fire. why is indeed being trying to send weapons to is wrapped in that and you know, with them yes and no reference to is right. initially they did some emulation at the beginning, all the kinds of explosives sending it to that me i was, i believe that that one of the adult at the beginning of the is really the same. but as i said after the do you think the medicaid in crisis and it was just last

month? well, there will be no, no sharpens of late. 70 not in the last month to ok. well obviously india is helping to fund the war. the russians against a native through ukraine, in that proxy war, in sense that they're buying energy from russia and civil tenuously and backing up you'll have who that india is. indeed, on the line, it is pursuing the all important international north, south transport, colorado. what do you think the americans will do in this new term of modi's to try and prevent the job of high porch in iran as india are in there on type is it's links and mutual support increasing the way, hearing the joke of war uh, from uh, obviously from that and yahoo, uh, and his back is in washington when the americans were raising the

warner kind of some they had specifically exempted from our port from the sanctions. and i'm, but in fact they, they believe that india as involved and i'm sure i would contribute to regional technology. but now that they have hundreds of punish time the states to the follow up on the terrace melisha. i don't know what, what the approach to travel odd would be. then recently i think we can imagine. and then on terrorist where these are the most of the global south that they just recognized as a government that defeated the united states. my point, sorry to turn, how are you professor, that is do you think the united states will bum? uh, the indian port uh, construction area is that is applying john to hires they rebuild as they're building it, like they built in the north stream pipelines, applying energy to germany. this is going to get incredibly difficult for and yours,

man. and i mean, now that is in does x, do you live only bugging the conversations of in the abilities was, who knows? how do you think moody will continue? the agenda kartel role in india recently signed a 10 year agreement. but iran just, just before that actions and in fact, in the midst of the elections this, i understand the agreement. but um, what they're on the job of our fault is it's very unlikely that americans with our volunteer bar, because the model is not, it's meant to american interests in any way. they can only be postponed to american in this because it provides and all the 100 and wrote to a gun. it's on to centrally here at the moment. the mag, i wish it was. so i only on my good agree, i mean, i, the united states do lots of things with the detrimental to their own security. you

believe acadia the north south international card, or if a good start to avoid this, who is canal and use the trade route from john to, to russia through the, through the voltage and avoid this is canal. it's probably not good for. well, it's good in this sense and i'll get the ship, so i'm going to be destroyed by you have any resistance forces, but it's not good for their um, control of the so is canal ro. i don't see how to model them to be a big deal. it's not what's a good? i don't think um if, if they, if trouble are, was a red line for them. they want to reactivate strongly to the recent in there on that agreement there. and then reaction was quite new to well, that forces, say a weapon recently uh, was used to bone iran. and we don't know about present raising, of course. so we'll have to wait and see what the eventual reaction to that of

course, the big elevator, the room is always nuclear pockets on notice. comments or moody a seemingly suggest the tone and some kind of approach more. iran calm was on this show shortly before his imprisonment alleging the us over through him. do you see some kind of grain to piece being negotiated between india and pockets fund under this new load? the coalition government orchestra and relations with orland snippets to remain very difficult for 2 reasons. one focused on submitted to their means or possible elections in the pocket sign of failed to beacon, the vice like grip opportunity on national politics on a district policy. but it's not military intelligence and the best i wish once i've never been an officer of any someone in the government. in fact, they handle pocket sounds on me as long active as the country is effective,

luna. and this will even today. and the 2nd reason is the progress on the please. long standing nexus with states not to paris. exposed on terrorism remains an instrument from focused on foreign policy. even the progress on something lovely about the progress on the explorer of terrorism. i'm kind of son is ruled by the panama, which was one's cassandra proxy, the thought it was competing openly that focused on its own straight across the board, the terrorism. so unless this nexus with terrorism is broken, so remote for your relations retreat, good. civil is allowed to govern. august on has not become a normal state. it will not have normal relations with its neighbors. well, the, i, as i obviously on going to come on the show. but the pakistani government tonight,

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