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the common ground, the the hello and welcome to cross the bullhorn time peter a little here we discussed some real news. president joe by news the d day commemoration. so call for war rather than piece. and the european elections, are they less then useless to discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess george, send me while we in budapest, he's a pod cast, read the guy, go which be found on youtube and locals. and of course in merrill cash we have martin j, steve and award winning journalist and commentator, or a gentleman cross type roles in effect, that means can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. hello sir. i was georgia in budapest. you know, joe biden is really the most most unremarkable president probably ever in american
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history. but he deviates from his own remarkable and this, by being remarkably, give this and the adf anniversary of the dna landing. on june 6th of this year. he gave an appalling speech. let me just read this a little bit of what he said. they've suffered tremendous losses. russia, the numbers are staggering. 350000 russian troops dead or wounded. nearly 1000000 people have left russia because they are no longer c as future in russia. he went on and on, and i thought this was to commemorate the death of those that landed in normandy and it was the triumph of the west of the soviet union. and what was called the allies, the triumph over naziism. he didn't make any really, any references to such things. george. that's exactly right. because we have
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already become accustomed to the western habit of ignoring the soviet contribution to the victory in world war 2. i mean, that's now a given every time they have these come immigrations, but by who went a little bit beyond that, of course he made no mention of anything that went on in the eastern time. needless to say, he made no mention of operation by garcia on lawrence at the same time to relieve the pressure from the western allies. but he went beyond that he use this occasion . does he say to celebrate the deaths of hundreds of thousands of russians, but so he claim and, and to mobilize the west against russia as well. so he bought, he was saying, is that both those a young american man, those ranges who landed here, 80 years ago, they, they would want to go on to fight against the russia today. you know, this is
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a good, it's good, extraordinary. so the 1st arab guns on his, bob to speak on the the hub. but it's also a disgraceful this marching of this occasion. because he used it to call for war. it's supposed to be the celebration of the end of all that this brought the war to an end as well. the media talked about, oh, we invoke the spirit of ronald reagan in 1984 to look at, bring in speech and 1984. he talked about ending, we'll use that occasion for though, but up upgrade it is to en route and that we should never find was a game bind. it's only very different is it is very divisive. and to use this occasions the cohort is really nothing short of just absolutely disgusting. yeah, and, and mark it is, it is biden's war. this is a new lead toward. this is something that is being pursued against the wishes of the populations of, of what they call now, western europe and the, in the,
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in the west, the united states, canada, and so forth. here is, this would have been a remarkable opportunity to talk about. instead of i'm calling for greater, greater depth of war about talking about security. i looked at his speech very carefully. there is nothing in reference to security. and this is what this conflict is all about. it's not about you cream, it's about pan european security, which biden, and his, um, uh, circle and you know, it would be your opinions as well, refused to face up to martin. yeah, it's is disgusting us, joe says, but i think it's, it's also a new, a new level of desperation from by doing, you know, he's not really somebody who's an interesting piece. he's a little longer. it's been very clear he's, he's really showing the stuff in, in this, in this time with office and live the depth of the product to, i think is the stock range. you know, we're looking at the administration now is going to be remembered for decades to
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come for the thousands of children killed and gaza. you know, um for the disingenuous, if not disgusting, to faced a narrative that was coming from biting about these ran news about wanting them to stop the will. and yet, you know, just this week we've seen that the floating p a is actually not about helping poor cousins, adults about some of the ministry operations. and you know, i think when to get him to take this opportunity to, to not reflect on the greatness of the event and, and to be respectful to those who died on, on those shows. but to actually turn in some payoff and event. i don't ask him too many sizes, you know, i believe in yourself is not gonna be remembered for that. let's, let's, let's face it. you know, we, we are all driven now by a very, very short attention span. social media is really the thing this. so it's the important thing that we will remember and used to come him trying to sit down and imagine reach or we'll see pulsing, wind or even deprecating. i don't know,
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you know, he was quickly a school to the way by jill looked like and not be changed to me. he'll be remembered for that. he'll be with the the, i think the iconic video clip will remember about some news to come is the full understanding that you bought and turning around really slowly. i'm looking in the oldest direction and the 3 others slowly following him till being the last one. you know, the mind crumbs kind of slowly turned around this really, really multiply some sketch to look the other way. so this will be a good point martin. i mean charge to me, you know, that this was the, the liberation of europe. okay. me this is, this is a european commemorative event and where are the europeans, i mean, we, we've seen over the last few months, they, those wanting to get as close to biden in his position as possible to be even more aggressive than the biding administration. and then by miss reasons, pretty aggressive right now. i mean, it's the would be, this was supposed to be about the say to bureau,
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but they seem to advocate their responsibility for europe. i mean, what good is your experience with this tom point? go ahead, george. no, none whatsoever. i mean, way, when you look at uh, in terms of security, in terms of, uh, economic well being in every way your of has done disaster sleep out of the world. and, you know, we've got, unfortunately, you know, the number of states. so they've been inducted into these europe, instructors the, you and they, so cruise one goal seems to be to start conflict with russian white. why that is, it is a mystery, but a little baltic stage, some and poland and then doing so. so, you know, some of the, some of the, a space by such as were mania, they just want to stir up conflict with russia. and then we have, uh, the united kingdom, which again just seems to have completely gone off the deep end. and once
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a will with russia, and again, you deal with this, the whole point of having these sorts of occasions is the celebrate the end of the war. that's the same. that's the way we did this. you know, it's now many years behind us. and we're now no going to do this again. it's not supposed to be that's mobilized for another war. and, and so at this very moment here of, you know, by the who is now the, apparently a given look at the go ahead to use american weapons on russian search it to kill russians. and what's the response from europeans? i don't know, even just those meds on landscape. oh, this is too little too late. you go to the internet. i'll allow of these weapons to be used deeper into a russian territory and provide a lot more so that we can kill a lot more russians. what on earth is that go to do with any kind of a, a come member ration of the end of a little while? of course it hasn't been filled. so that's a,
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they were here now mobilizing for it's not and it will give and the, given that it's okay, we're now getting ready for you martin. but simultaneously, you, as those events were unfolding, we had bite and also a speak to the french assembly. and simultaneously, there was a form going on in saint petersburg, where vladimir potent was question for a for hours on end. does it usually gives the opportunity to, in domestic and foreign media, the number of feelers that have gone out over the last few weeks. i mean, it, this is wilfully ignoring what's going on to both of you this, this, this event and, and in normandy, could have been a very interesting opportunity to address those. feelers ok, as the end of fascism in europe is commemorated. how should we, how can we make be or being content and safe again, that would have been an opportunity. they miss it intentionally martin,
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they did miss santa she, i don't. unfortunately when you use that word, fascism is a certain irony to the end of the way to so we'll talk about that in the 2nd half of the program. keep going. all right, yeah. somebody either with some at the same time scott risk wasn't allowed to get on a plane and goes out for them. and it was, you know, and these are the kind of things that we've been hopping on about for decades about countries from the east, you know, who not having a such democratic values as us. but now we're doing the same, you know, now we've become those countries and i think that the sco richard incident was quite a stock reminder that we're going backwards. we're losing our democratic freedoms. we're becoming much more to classic. and the whole thing about the day um do you know binding and all these gold leaves is standing around and banging on the drum about will is that there is now a conspiracy. it must always west of the lease to crank up to finish spending, to create a sense of panic, sense of fear. so the people, perhaps a comfortably a taken by the hand to, to
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a place where they don't normally want to go and show the stories by the media. so they wouldn't normally look at disregarding some of the bigger stories of, you know, governance, pull governance that some, you know, guess slipped under the carpet. this was really all about, it's about the film on green. and i think come, it was a real, real shame will bite. and did you know, he talked about and ukraine and then you know, it was a lot for me, it was very disrespectful and everything it, when it went to lensky is, there's an escape turning up in his usual kind of coats. kind of a glad rag notices you know, so come on the b s, whatever he is, the more the existing site or, and considering the political forces that have surrounded him, the political coloration. and if you get my drift, okay, and having someone like that they are not talking about the i'm to what i'm talking about, respecting all those people have died. you could have at least pulling and say we went. so he was a crusade against fascism caught caught me in the soviet union and the liberal west
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join forces the destroy fascism. ok. have any words of fascism on that stage has, is a, it's soiling history of george knows what i mean here, george. but we have before we go to the break here, maybe this will be the year the people, the historical memory will be. but the soviet union was the enemy of the west and the 2nd world war. do you think that's possible? absolutely. as possible. every look at the bible speech, he's great. he's pretty much saying that the war games, hipaa goes on and it's a, you know, and it's the same war as the one against the thornton and russia. he's very much made the case that it's, it's, it's the same war. and we've talked about this before, that there's a very rapid revision of history english on how that lead the mobilization of the european content that people had attempted against the soviet union is actually a worthwhile project. and it's just a little bit lower aspects of hulu is not acceptable for the front of the
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transporter you it. the french press reporting and it was a 1st step, normandy, was a 1st step. very interesting. not mentioning this will be an experience at all gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on somebody on interstate with our team, the, the, the,
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the, what is part of the, is it that the employee would post good, isn't the defense you of us and that in the word part, is it something deeper more complex might be present. good. let's stop without cases. let's go out of the welcome after cross that both phones and peter level here. we're discussing some real news mark. let me go to you and merrick cash again. we have um, um, as we speaking right now, the polls are closing across europe uh with the european parliamentary election.
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and there is a lot of parties, lot of alliances, you know, and it is all in the number of countries are out there. i think i actually took some notes here of 450000000 people are eligible to vote. um, probably less than half will. who goes to the selections. okay. because i bet you well, um and you know, at george, i bet you, you know, if you went and walked around budapest after this and say who, who represents us in the, in the european parliament, i bet you nobody else 0 martin who votes in these elections the people who vote in these lessons traditionally have always been people who are passionate about the european union ideology, the project, and the e. u. a leads most this really doesn't want sir elections and we wanted for elections. it would do. or what we'll study or belgium does, which is false, people dislike legally. so if we didn't, if you get find that you would never do that because if you force people to vote, you would find a very, very low turn out full, the conventional big pell of brooks and european panama, which is the, the christian democrats. and the socialists, you know,
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those are really the 2 big groups that controlled everything in the open problem. and so what happens is you get a high turn out for people who are passionate about a who, but for one of those c brooks and you get a low turnout for all the of the independent. so all the live because the, instead of just like american prime bearings, it's only the true believers that go out and vote it's, it's a true believers, but it is changing. this is important point. it is changing in the last couple of european elections. what you're finding now is that people using the you elections as a protest vote, so that aren't going to school situations around countries of that process, but is always full, right? and it doesn't necessarily mean people believe in the far right. and so, you know, for them the, i mean, p vote is a throwaway, but anyway, they don't believe in the project. and they think that, you know, there's a normal amount of corruption from this old across the organization which is anti democratic anyway. so it's a fairly fluid as a protest foods, you just take the flow right group. i think we're going to see and that's a couple of days. i think this is going to be unprecedented. this time around. i
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think it's gonna be very high number people who are protesting. what can you bring up an interesting point and this is something i think when i look at of the european parliament and actually it's also to some degree george, if you look at them german elections, you know, they, where you have people voting however, it's defined, right? far right or right is there is a protest vote. i mean, but at what point is there a tipping point where it's, it's more than a protest vote because, you mean what you, i can, we can turn this all upside down. you know, it's a throwaway, but it doesn't really matter. but for a lot more and more people, this is the only way that they can actually express their opinion. so they can cut both ways. we'll see what the results are george. so i think that's right, and i think model makes a very good point that the people the who actually show up to vote all the ones who are you in? susie asked. and so there it's, it's a kind of a, a lopsided vote that, uh, so, you know, we often expect, well, this in this election, the fall ride will do well, they may do well. i mean, that's a, it's
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a possibility that but in i, i suspect that they won't do as well as we expect, simply because i think that they vote does it just not going to show a big and ultimately is because the european parliament is really a fraud. i mean, it's not really a parliament in any meaningful sense or not completely fund buddies over at bonham . and this is a legislative that'd be that that's a problem. and so supposed to do, but the, you follow me. i read it, doesn't religiously, the, the european commission and then the european count him and these are those members of parliament really well compensated. george are so they are extremely well compensated, which is which itself is scandal and one of the big which is good. but there is this institution that really has no. busy power, although then essentially to act as a rubber stanfull the decisions made by the, the european commission and the european council. so, but the, any of these are extremely well compensated. uh and uh and, and, but it will cost
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a lot of money, you know, having all that building and then, you know, having busy, but they also don't do a lot of work. i think they only show up by saying 2 to 3 days a week. so in georgia, they are, let me throw this door. i mean, they like to have these great, um, uh, expressions of our grades, you know, we're going to equate this with this. and, you know, they make these big, historical pronouncements and all that, you know. and then i'm sure they go to the, the went bar afterwards and celebrate, but nobody really cares what they do scenario. but doesn't george stuck on the very good point. it is a robust, i'm paying organization. i mean, what you can remember is when the, when the architects, as a european union, and then a schuman and, and spin any of set up the whole project, they forgot to make it democratic. but the idea of the european problem was a both on last minute idea because i, so my goal is we're gonna, we're gonna have a nice to pretend so some, so democracy here. so let's create a problem and you know, and really that's really what the emmy's piece do. the big part of the job is just
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simply to run the stump, tweak a little bit, but ultimately robust. i'm a mazda from out of draw for legislation which is pumped into it every single day from the european commission that they are being questioned. didn't do that. if it's, if it's somehow stream lines, the number of draw food is less than that. it that it creates it. of course the problem will be used as you have nothing to do. so they're both feeding off one another. they both have the raise on debt. so they mean pieces very much down to how much is coming is how much draw often restrictions pumps for the machinery, but you're in terms of power george's cups, that correct is the only problem at all. i know in the whole world that doesn't have the image, then please don't have the rights to draw us dropped any legislation themselves. you know, they couldn't talk about it or create a little paperless. and so, you know, i'll be honest with the both of you in our audience here thought to george, now there's those 2 irish people. that's the only thing i know about the things to meet. then you'll be when they come out with really, very passionate spaces. i almost always completely agree with, okay, that's the only thing that it enters my world from this huge body bids so wasteful
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. you know, the big elections, you know, you know, then pump all the money into it. for the most part, it is trying to always be a referendum that the you is doing a good thing. that's what they, that's all it's doing. okay. and you know, with and then on top of that, george, you and i have talked about this and that is always the right wing pouncing and you know, the radicals, okay. how much truth is that in the add to that george right here, your, your as a right and but little boy strikes me is when i see those. um lets do mic wallace and clad daily. is it? is it or? well, why is it only just them? i mean, is there anyone else that i could do is there somehow that thing, the $720.00 m a fees, but its always low as to who to talking any, any sense of oh and i to for i shouldn't, did for a while and i and i drove garage the that's right. but that and, but their mother and what, what does the others do?
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what, what exactly is their role? and, but apparently then, you know, the big issue now is, well, are they going to give the, or zillow funder lion a 2nd time, you know, they're in the, nobody really knows this. i'm also so full, stray dean will georgia maloney support from the lying. and that they have these very good relationship, is it because she's been such a good job? well, that's the point. i mean, that's really the issue. what is the phone number line? i mean, she's in the middle of her own scandal about why did they want to, i think of something like 4 and a half 1000000 doses of the 5 as a vaccine. you know, given the, the, the population of, i think that i think 4 and a half 1000000000, i think, you know, potentially affordability as are. and so in other ways, because of population of the it was only 450000000. so that comes to 10 doses, but a citizen of the you. so the question, why did you want to 10 doses and, and then she expects the europeans to pay for it. and then she's not,
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but she's not revealing any of her messages a bit, but she exchange with the size of so she has been an absolute disaster. but because of the, the matching nations of the bureaucracy, she may well get herself in out of the town. because she's very vigorously campaigning for a 2nd to, you know, want to, you know, heis. i saw a little bit better before we can being here. and martin, they said, she says is this uh, uh, these elections are important because it's to protect your ups. democracy is that what's front and center here? no is what tells me there's not a super dates and the jobs you know, the establishment establishment that we don't necessarily see every day on the television screen. see, so the, the front end of it, you know, but them, i, you know, talking about does that little publish the video that she made while she's walking through the country, choking sort of country side. and she comes to charming, you know, german house. and unfortunately, we didn't come to, you know, guilt give edge photographs of
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a full father's and wasn't as uniforms on top of the piano, we should, we would have done that. been much more interesting, but she's done a good job in keeping the state is closed and keeping the leads where they all i'm blood and like so and you know, probably she needs to stay another 5 years to really immune herself from any outside persecution over the fires of scandal from companies or member states. you know, they, a couple months ago it was announced that the use own into internal fraud department are investigating, you know, well, we really should expect something from that, right? you know, how wrong friends in the european commission actually in investigating or white washing, but we'll see. but i think um, you know, we're probably looking at 5 more years from as well, which is quite, well, i don't know what's going on here gentlemen. considering what we talked about in the 1st half of the program and then what we're talking about now, george is the germany. when the 2nd world war, i mean it is, it is going to try to show low. so i did a good drama. is that what was in attendance with all these ceremonies?
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russia was not invited had the ceremonies and of ghosts 0 who's leading the charge in the, in your of it's germany, which is which is open until we've had the bad books inc. the honor for with a roster. and then she said, no, that's fake news. didn't say and below there it is. and she is. she is. she said it was germany has dropped all pretense. is there anything you know that it when scrolling, the id is 7 days 19 ages that somehow it so this is a new country where very, very different from the, what we used to be. but luckily, we don't have any hatreds or anyone, you know, when you get a full milk of human kindness towards everyone, henceforth only be so lemonade from german. so that was his commitment. then 1990. john is step by step abandoned. all of that is all the russell phobia that was so prevalent in germany in the 90s. so it is. and before what it's worth, once again,
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it's a, it's a coordinates for political see the way, what's up on the line talks about russia. it's the way ality in a babel. thoughts about richard and you get in the drum and media for use any of these for anything both women are channeling their ancestors views. george. yeah, i think so. i think so. i think they, they, they've, they've been germans not feel unrestrained. they don't have to pretend they did it in the way they had to focus on some years. but this is a, is there a new people, they don't have any of that horrible, horrible, nasty aspects of germany. i think this is very much the cause of germany that we've been familiar with in the past. yeah. and we have the defense administered, talking about 3 or re arm and being with that being a, being necessary to fight a war by to 2029 against whom it's left on said gentleman, that's all the time we have. it goes so quickly, i want to thank my guessing, american and in budapest. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our to see you next time. remember,
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