[000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to wells a part in political science. the turnbull can, i say sion is used to describe the process of an awful, deliberate fragmentation of a country or territory into smaller an open house spelled parts when it comes to the ball comes today. how sole or the current border as well to discuss that i'm now enjoyed by new i got a president of the republic, a subsequent. mr. president. thank you very much for your time and for visiting rusher this time. and thank you for taking the time to sit for an interview, i guess from europe i read today. thank you. that's what did you decide to come for a visit every now? what was the number you're that i've been coming here for many years and i'm always glad to have this opportunity for the 31st and i'm grateful to the organizer and

president present for regular invitations. also with amend these are very difficult times the require real friendship and the book, cultural proctor test and not only not the general upgrades of costco, say some traditional friendly relations are crumbling and disappearing because of what's in any case we from republic, a subs got a very committed to having friendly relations with the russian federation on the front of it. we have many contacts with economic organizations and things. yeah. a personal, as well as business people when people from the political sphere or other non global new photo most on this is one of the largest global forms. and so the very fact that there are over 20000 people from more than 100 countries here suggest that this is the place we should be today. and on the we'll put in st. petersburg about this forum or something going on for the as far as you know, when talking about cooperation of to your victory and the elections of october 2022 . we've, you know, to the republic a subsidy will develop cooperation with russia, china, and the united states. while continuing its puss,

you would like to the you. what's the standard value you as a to does this multi directional policy seem possible to you or has anything changed during this time? which one of those corner associates, obviously, your opinion is increasing the following. it's crisis and i'm a to your opinion is devoid of resources either because not oil and gas will be what is also devoid of leaders. not a european union is losing the valuable politicians with whom it presented itself to the will to control and then on some pretty the them, you know, the european policies in the use of try to use money to attract countries to join his community a no longer the same today of motion. yeah. obviously i'm somebody different. it's getting kara around what is office view and view opportunities that will be a new thing and therefore let me pull it because it's very important that we do no full hostage test failed policy, which was huge in such a way that if you're not full me or you are against me last year with the sunset was in the cases a demand to impose sanctions on russia,

which we reject the put on our trust. there's absolutely does not allow for dialogue on an equal basis, but do they need subjects? nope. on a scenario, this will allow relations with the russian federation on a completely different level, even model as i didn't know what the, how small the community we on the, you know, what's the house smaller and economy? we have uh, you know, the 19 which shakespeare put on the us, we had to have done. we feel like partners and one of the most powerful economies in the world done today. so we learned that the russian economy is the 4th largest in the world, but sanity the only, so it's also about, well that's a huge worry about how your pond is treat. you told them all drama here. we have fully quality on envelopes. here we have respect on the, on the side of europe and the western world with no point. we only have the obligation to be subjects or an on question. we follow the policies on the end of may. the also, as you saw for a public, a set up sca announced the creation of a group to phone proposals for the peaceful division of boston hudson. governor pitt prompted the republicans to take this step report of the cisco republic. a

subscript is a party to the dates and agreements of conflict of a miss which we both are tired tree. well, it's because of political independence, the people and i'll power into the community called in bosnia and herzegovina when they're ready for that. and so questions though, it wasn't good to them. now i don't know if the trip is as close to the front of them from the very beginning. it was clear that we were forced to do this. so comment on that we did not want this cause. now, so because of the way in which the west on the so loosely, completely on just the viability, punish the subs. oh, there was no other way, but to accept this option. however, it was clear from the very beginning the bus, the and had screen there was a failed, the project was because of going to disregard. so it's impossible agreement state the only reported cassette sco duration, a signatures of the next 10 or can change disagreements at all. even while your mama, brown, we, we have a legal basis for launching an initiative for peaceful separation. because the current bosnia and herzegovina are going to have those now sees not only this generation, we will also the prospects of future generations solution going around there is no

longer any will or strength to stay in this on successful communities or so no skill sets mission or donor can, can somebody me see it to me me is elijah mooney, those center which was conceived in distant offices across the world. uh huh. the full, you run your national, we believe the peaceful separation is in the interest of all signed with clearly defined states is uh you can be good bonus. what i want. good name is natalie. the associate of the hodges. everything is the preservation of peace within the prevention of the violence and destruction we experienced in the ninety's when you use the time piece full separation. how's that different from independence? committed residencia and a peaceful separation means precisely that it will be based on a conversation on this issue or the conclusion of a joint agreement regarding it and thought from what are some so. so you currently know to the emphasis on peaceful separation because everyone expects the separation like century thing. this issue will mean chaos. i mean, for these devices ation to,

we want to say that it is possible to talk and then separate peacefully the citizens coast with the museum will publish. and we see this in order, the communities and some families and marriages under the societal level. we will, you have no stone or bush and it goes, it goes now and has to be in a is a completely unsuccessful, hopeless marriage. you don't the, in the sense that have been met this way. it is necessary to realize the futility of continuing on in the same spirit that the if he wants to continue living this way, it means you want to dominate and subjugate while your own kind of collection is also quarter set. then of course, it was the western world that promotes the values of dialogue agreement to see a promoter, so they're understanding the law. expose them. uh, that doesn't mean right now, but i'll be over on this initiative for peaceful to solomon. it contains all of these elements us, it's cool. a funding to mr. president, i'm sure you know,

but as from the history of your region and the history of europe as a whole, know that such divorces are rarely civilized, especially when global politics meets local politics and concerns your region. you have talks about it yourself, guiding strongly. what do you see is the greatest risk? so no pets units. he's the one of the so called for this peaceful separation can bring to your republic and what of the machine, you know, the sort of course is global, global circumstances. the difficult to put one on the other to the world is incomplete disarray, and we'll go to another cruise. we have a lot of open crises because it seems that the fates about times. so it is a deadly threat to a civilization and the current will go to order. the one that was one sided and subordinated to america obviously no longer exists on the vision. today, it is clear that there is a multiple world course and multiple i can see it in the multiple this multiple world has not yet found his own organizations that can let him unite these interests and regulate their relations at the institutional phenomena,

country level. and that's what i mean just from knowing us. the role of course, dynamic. we do not benefit from this massive store, but she doesn't have given the issues forced upon those by the bosnian muslims in bosnia and herzegovina. but i think that's her going under the patronage of the mentors ventura research on merrily, the united states, tonya great britain in germany selectively. we simply realize that if we know, do not resist an exercise, all legitimate rights, all a, then we will lose somebody to go get the chance being forwarded to where they would send us and nothing to suff. canano to city and people will be forced to leave this area hospital and then where they have lived for centuries. for only one reason, somebody's in the show room, the great powers in the west does not allow this people to express that political will in the same way any other people express that will please. of course, the uncle is not going to others for you just lobbies kilometers. so it'd be the subs,

wisconsin throughout the country. both felt like they lived in one nation. yeah, cool. and now that's gone because of the, the most. and they tell us we must live as an equal minority in bosnia and herzegovina too. and i'm not sure. but out of your mind, this means they want to supercede our rights and status, the full and should the what i agree that it is not the most advantages time for conversation. there's never an ideal time for conversation when all circumstances are in place, new to the nature or hope to do single corner sticklers. i'll show you the, the full i want. we believe that this initiative should be launched at this time. yeah, exactly. so i would like to ask about the resolution, which was recently adopted by the un general assembly with heavy low being by western policies that are recognized has strep and it's as genocide and close for a special day of remembrance to be created to perpetuate this interpretation. of history for restored in what goes are being pursued here. is that on the personnel?

the done that is that lots are still on your criteria one because i've seen that because that phone is really the summer train. you only have to look the name of the fact that in germany introduced in salons of this illegal initiative on behalf of only one of the peoples of buckner with archie 3 peebles, and you know, they'll cut no decision was taken by the institutions of bosnia and herzegovina to launch this initiative funeral, which of course is a pre requisite in the work of the world organization called the un, going to bring it off. and they put on germany appropriate to this illegal private initiative from bosnia and herzegovina. the phenomenon became its initiate to and main sponsor in an attempt to clear his history. the. the method though it must be understood, the top and corner of german power should have brought the descendants of last semester offices quickly, even to monday, to cities like kids during the soviet times, the am a so it's close out of the of course. so the which well don't know which these

people who have openly been trying to change history for a long time. however, the problem is that 30 is right. i mean without hindrance is that me so of sort of the not to look over the much in the episode, see that they will, the sub system of pulling out or more than half of which the same germans killed during 2. what was the last century? i'm bummed again, best put on in the, or the ninety's under a false pretext in the nato intervention that have been going on to accept the germans and occupies over as i'm at the center. and they want to achieve this revenge through a resolution for that to the survey. the resolution does not enjoy a majority. there's always, you know, not going to be on board or really below compose socialist, the rules and regulations of the united sick nations. general assembly is the state, but i don't know how the resolution is like this, which reflect the threats to basic civilizational values on. i should generally be dealt with by consensus and or whether or not to color the set the filters or looks

at those others. or if the consensus is not possible, then 2 thirds are needed. uh, cuz we are talking about a very important civilizational issue here, which concerns on the 30th. and it, you know, said i'll do well. nobody's room to room. however, you think the initiative sponsors order and those influential people who are clearly losing their privacy in the world agreed to consider this an insignificant technical point. so now if you're out there 100 square feet and uh you and those, and then visit, they provided a system in which only full in front of gate supposed to accounts that academic dishonor sustained with them. and when you consider the essence of the democratic process. so there was and you will see that 109 countries did not vote for this resolution last summer was the only 84 countries to us on this entrance exam. this is the collapse of american history many uh yeah, flash. i know that the us represents different scenarios, stay to the succession of republic, a sub sco would know being independent, similar to the end of both stan hudson gulf and asked me to give it to gary

knowledge, but only the end of republicans subs. gotcha, how do you interpret this? because even if somebody could snare that, a pre tutor is in the world and you woke up from google's additional well in it, and it shouldn't end if it is, somebody came down. and so those are so true because you know what the most, i'm the very beginning it was known, the bosnian has covina that was formed in 1995 for man is a consensus of the american political leads completed. scale it with the don't the moment all right and modeling old right was promoting the dates and concepts easier to talk with you. so there was also a significant politician in the state department at that time, but dental figured out that the secretary of homeland security becca, you put in lago, propose dividing bosnia and herzegovina into independent countries on the subject clean. and then they said, well, the whole process tried the 1st option because it's never too late for the 2nd is those as well. and so we came to the conclusion that we've been living in this on successful experiment for 30 years. could they make it in the middle economic, a noble lord eva hundreds. yeah,

they're the only right to from the bulk us to receive the noble prize and literature. we will not chose bosnia and herzegovina as the theme for all these works. the voice, think it through the on the key or the mice. express an impulse, some historical truth, and one phrase, another truck when you're answer bosnians or through most of the logic guns i've ordered. the cause of the under is of so is in terms of under it and the most cuz we described the rain of thomas instead of just times up. so it is today when it comes to the level, there's no logic for bus and it has convenient to live on for it to continue to exist when you're sending our son for the c peoples to feeling such sight to know if it's true. and the other one is 3 to bush on the positive people and not be the name of those. they like the hedge of many that would make them feel happy or sort of thanks to who would i just was thinking fuzzy and that's convenient, is synonymous with unhappiness. they're going to say no names. i know it's just simplicity because it has to convenient is synonymous with failure. it was the it has convenient, isn't proof, they'll cause the west and the false is considered the peoples of the balkans con,

calling morgan as well as so many other places. let him at least 3 and one worthy of deciding their own fates. no, no transfer. so a minute plus level here, and they wanted to pull their own features and wishes into it. uh, you know, i to, it's impossible to just transfer the way of life of some distant place to another space because nations have their own history for and really that own present in the future not to do, you might as why you started in most ways. so that in this ultimate everything. so it's a good program. it's almost impossible to impose a model that does not enjoy popular support and has to convene it, does not enjoy popular support and then for the well, mr. president, we have to take a very short break, but we will be back in just a few moments section.

the the welcome back to wells, a part of the rest know that i'm going to be president of the republic a step scott was put in place. i know that you met the russian president today and i mean, are you going to, or did you already ask for russia's help for public a subs phillips game, want it to me, and do you see a situation in the future when republican serves come like need rushes help, you know. sure. not richard. both number of biggest support. there is one big

staple off of a chef on a gig and a global giant that sees republicans epsco, a much smaller community, knew it as a bomb. i'm all of that and i didn't know somebody's gonna deal with it in terms of the values. we show exactly that, which is most important for russian and the russian people at the board. but the struggle for the people to identity their writing language, traditions, history on the country in the email and all. and although true, we have the right to freely dispose of countries resources. you'd only connect with no one from the outside interfering in our internal affairs. if the owner, so i'm, this is what united so significant no matter maybe how big some countries all or how small others are rich. and this is, we don't need to be support the receive from the russian federation person they put in their prison. pretend this is one cut out of the a great statesman, not with the doubts of the people's leader. right?

but the lead and he's also the lead of the whole for you. well, on your, to your computer. there's a little shows up his amount of piece. what was the west tries to do to him? well, they did the sub's in the late 20th century. then prepare when they arrange special tribunals and tried to blame and try that for everything done. not the dose arising and negative history. uh, owners are not on the coast. oh, they broke the teeth on russia and we got a so i'm show that russia is protect thing, not only is own national and state interests, but also the interest of the whole for you. well, i thought, and this is demonstrated by the fact that child with a significant number of countries, world organizations in nazi i'm, the united nations, have not followed the past of the west and imposing sanctions. uh, you have to submit another one. of course they send us the westlaw, do they want to take over versus resources enough to engulf oil gas and you know, the special and red metals onto available in europe. and entre so could enter the

an us in order to take over these resources. they've begun to combine ukraine system, installing the nato system and ukraine itself for furniture and threatening to do the same as rush it in the next step with us, which is that the overall police come russian president vladimir putin, his policy, which recognized these intentions sooner. definitely makes him not only a star except for the russian people and the russian states on the truck. also a national treasure, russian, i don't on the russian people, nowhere on all internal. that's cool, not you. and on the augusta field, we'll see what's going on with those you've seen in politics for several decades. and the oldest time you have a pose go stand. hudson. goldman has membership in nato for getting the not the know off of nato in 20102024. i'm going to very different organizations with different strategies and amused degrees of applies ation and plans. so what does data represent to you at this stage?

a coach removed enough to it so obvious to nato, as described in the documents, a nato, such as it conducts itself, a completely different, routed the owners to go through a single i screwed off at the not to nato's astounding arc state that it's a defensive lines instead of hands him on the so that if you engage in 2 interventions, it goes to sub so which contradicts these acts dot demonstrate to enough to defensive a line. so put some of the talking lines in mobile need that i showed you a line to go to broad through sort of the only villains could call the operation in case the subset, the civil angel neuron blog don't think depleted uranium at the same time. and so on and they did this to us talk last thing. the reason is that the west doesn't want to hear from anyone. and so i was wondering with them as the supplement and there's only to try a new quote on the west. would prefer to make decisions on russia without asking anyone a rush or about anything on that's how it works in the balkans as we started school got the so so we know faced article resistance to flight such efforts. we've got no story. i know it was not true this though, but this means you'll be occupied for

a long time. is up on the clay, you're not. or the west. nato used ukraine's answer into direct conflict with russia. uh, on uh, to enter into the. the concern for ukraine is false in a scorpio, so they don't care about the people in ukraine. technically nobody go could. and it allows you to go can and security with the amount of posting the on you who oppose this home. but it goes up with the only concern about how to make this reason this be towards the possible facility. so they can then appear save us from civil and bipolar resources, the natural wealth cheaply x on the road. this is our main concern with meditation by then, and they've tried to do this on the presidential family in america. biden has been very active in ukraine in the past decade side, which side of costs to the collapse of the end from the higher democratic system in ukraine itself. so there's, you run your insubordination of these processes to american. i'm only gonna kick,

but let's go and family interest and sort of the shipment. this is honestly, i'm on with those still today to don. we have a situation where america by the lead, by buy them through a suit. your son was the main trader. all businessman ukraine, businesses will contain mobilizing nato against russia. you will see you start, but always this is the real truth leo. to let know the rush of success is in the special military operation or not. that ought to obviously confirmed the failure of nato. this is lucio started to palmer adversary's taking steps towards his ultimate goal, namely where the vision showed the freedom and rights of the russian. people in ukraine to decide whether they will live or do it. but all don't know true. let me just to get you. those are you, i'm gonna do what you might do or not, or these are some of your other nations are able to do this on the con, there were some people and that are issues and somebody is the us, i ministration can intervene for the sake of one, american, wherever they are in the us and them. and then of course, and i don't know, russia has the right to protect the millions of instances of living in ukraine and with

a mr. president. so i would also like to ask about the situation in the balkans because there was an opinion that one's ministry intervention in your region rusher is interested in creating k or since that mosca always blames others full well, it does itself studio in some categories. how do you assess the secuity of the region and especially considering possible ethnic conflicts, conflicts of a charge, me a present as amount of peace. there's over the rest of the books, regardless of what the west is trying public under wise of the owner of is known to the west, always results to a distorted logic or attempts to negatively present all the verses intentions. and i mean, uh, for example, you know, whether in, i've known person for many years as really the countless conversations with him as well. we've had room to just this. yeah. i think the by the end of the year we will have the opportunity to talk again the interest to never ask for anything that

could to stabilize the region. we're going to get on nearest to near. he's never us to anything you never promised to support a subs and doing something destructive in bosnia and herzegovina. you know what, you know, it was good to go and they really thought she's always demanded the instructional agreements, photos and special on human relations be respective them as you go through this and push the attendance around it under the territorial integrity of boston. and has the green and peace be respected. and so he's still doing that today and on us. definitely touchstone portables on the west and propaganda that talks about russia's intentions to destabilize the bulk and says, complete life cable growth person and update the toner inputs on a nation. and there's just a public on the technique for daily or short term use intended to draw attention to the region, class coupe with the audio track record, but the or national but the 1st, the condos. and though we really socially, whatever. and there are lots of values to stereotypes and quiz i truths, very positive as to now i'm not going to under cause a lot of truths in the game today. i don't see whether it is,

but i'm convinced that russia's pursuing the correct policy and protecting is people's right to exist. nobody in this, as well as a ride to pursue the identity and traditional values. and so resistance and i'm not going to stick by the f one we might, the said to, out to, in the west when you have a situation where if you want to join the european union, you must be a 2 on a certain day. does your mattress preschool boys in women's coats, not so bored on girls in men's clothes and their nails, issue and discharged. so some will destroy the difference between the sexes will show it to the corners, cannot go wish to the boy as up on the river, see there's a thing so west. embody, you say the following door. somebody. if you do not accept what we say, you are not so in the quarter of the civilized world, this is a trick that clearly lies at the heart of all of today's misunderstandings. you can ask for the same mistake, mister president, while we are choking the clock. struck midnight and approximately i have one last question for you if possible. so i have so many russians on this now, seriously discussing the prospect of

a said will war or guns because there was some countries that of providing weapons and other ministry assistance to ukraine was what could i refuse to recognize the role in the conflict civic? yep, and this is creating the possibility for escalation, lot say, do you agree that this conflict could go beyond ukraine and affect the situation that is developing today? is up and deal with that movie the models and you've got the response to assess each us. um, you know, to move to what do i do? don't believe in theories about world war 3. he's gonna know plan. i'm gonna even, you credible somebody just don't know the funny one reason for the 2 most important, namely because there's one person with reason, because empathy for all people is on there regardless of the nation or religion. and that persons about demand. pretend wisdom propaganda is aimed at creating stereotypes that own internal needs less to do much input to the trash. and that's the same as other show. this will continue until all these fictional stories

surrounding european elections and liberal since this liberal left. all right, and i don't know what it is anymore, but mostly hoax. i go show the is really sure trying to mobilize people by crazy, the background of sea of, of russia, which is an absolute lie, noticed in a, as a reset on or under the onto the motors. one trees has been ignored to those feel name, even of the gym. these economic my boost based on cheap resources and what else with energy resources that it received from russia. one of the other, oh no. you can see how important that was going to, what they'll do is i'll train and then they'll be able to put the school through and they are buying expensive energy resources. on the other side, at 3 times the price of the i'm already american ones. they have to pay for it with our economy service, of course, they remain strong. what is not the country we saw before? that will not believe an extreme explanation in the sense of a global conflict on actual, again, or one reason or the i believe the automated person will not allow this as well. if you ask them the lesson to put now they would have been inside very long ago,

but that's not possible. well, mister president, we have to leave it there. but thank you very much for being so gracious with your time color. thank you. thank you for watching hope to see you again. our was a part of the, the the, what happened on october. the 2nd was a deal breaker for it was the slaves revolting against the master.

when slaves revolt against the legitimate masters, that is not going to be peaceful and it is going to be violent terrorist here, and that will take care, right. and the tears there, there and just surrounding the entire area of the party became ready for us. you know, they knew we're going to scatter like ship terrible tragedy and terrible revenge because okay, so i am, i know who they mean to come off. the thousands of on us know, especially the play shall be the goddess of being prevented withdrawal form. but it seems to be the point is what it needs to be. what he wants to do, peoples of the land,

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