or are talking about economic issues, i would surmise that the country has been in the state of flux over that by the way, former bolivian liter eco. morales has urged his supporters to rally against the crew at 10 p. r as former allies. but they helping strain some want so is to he has the monday, the national mobilization to tackle the a part of the community some very much together on this issue, the incumbent, the libyan government has urged the international community to support the countries of socrates against the insurgency, the president of hundreds, has also convened an emergency session of the sea lock at regional lock. let's discuss it now with a molding mendez revise. medical scientists that communicate are joining us from ecuador, thanks for your time and short notice as well. your take on watson folding in bolivia, this a part of the military coup attempt and we see the grass of the us

sadly, reaching out again to south america in this case, to a country like libya which has seen a transformation during the last couple of decades. of more employment, but better our economy of more security. so all the attempt, uh, and the quote that he did against abel morales with johnny 9 years in 2019. and we see it now with general. so when you got dropped, tempting to remove this odyssey, who was democratically elected and who, by all accounts has actually improved a conditions in believe the then united states does not rest when it comes to regaining power in latin america. we see that the us, as a superpower, has you be losing power all over the world and in their own backyard. they want to remain powerful. i do not. uh hesitate to say that there is some back in from the us for general, assuming you got in these phone calls for a couple of time. and believe you, i believe the general in question of the are amazing

a guy and also the nation's leader at spoke after the entering the presidential at policy. where do you think, what, where does the, the power lie as regards this, if there are a notable amount of army units against at the lead are kind of he would stem dot com, his supporters do that. and hopefully they can mobile. these ages have been called for the indigenous population, mainly let's not forget that will leave you as a country that is very divided racially and the last government talking about even more dollars. these are so have been governments that have been approved and supported by the indigenous population. the military and the other hand, representing the leads, and the cost that has always govern this country. they retain controls of the country through jani, 9 years. and now in the last couple of years, they weren't getting it again, it is on called for

a absolutely. but here we see some of the maybe racks i added to as our mistakes, even that lease, obviously it has done eval morales has criticized current president. these are still on a variety of issues. one of those issues i would say is being to lenient on the right. we lenient on the oppressive forces in that country. maybe if he is absolutely african start, sorry to interrupt, but the fact that morales lewis are k dot b r a divergence right now is that's a significant going forward in this to attempt that you know, all of the, all of the, uh, the forces. the socialists forces aren't together well, i believe that this will unite them. everyone else has called for mobilization. and in any case, the real enemy, in this case, these the right wing is the author rates are in the military. i would assume that because of these that will actually unite forces even more they do come from the same party. they do come from the same movement, yet they have been divided on some issues on really details about what has to be

done. and then when what is being a little more aggressive in this case, maybe if it was empower or more of his details, more of his advice would have been taken into account. this would not have happened . these only shows that governments enlighten america, especially last week, governments are working for the people need to strongly hold power and that, that way this won't happen again. okay, well, we're watching very close state developments from the past. thanks very much for coming into the program and giving us your expertise on at what is happening right now. in bolivia, we've been speaking to rum on mendez revised political science, says communicator from ecuador, but always where we leave and use round up for now, basing use our remember you can have you were saying any of the stories weeping, rubbing today over at r t dot com, you'll find plenty more there to keep you informed. entertain too good by the

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viewers of this program have certainly come across the observation. ukraine is on its last legs. indeed, ukraine's battlefield situation is grand and worst. by the day, however, it needs to be asked whether nato is on its last legs. the answer is certainly no. the breaking news, an artsy, bolivian soldier is reportedly storm the presidential palace in an apartment. could a talk attempt with an army general following to usher in, quote, change the country as a leader has urged the public to resist. also, i had left the people to have started out, but they won't be nothing to do with these by non speed of 2024.

then a dramatic, you turn the canyon presidents. props controversial. i am f box tack spill that sparked deadly protest and the east african nation. dozens are injured after a passenger train, the real skin north western russia, the us after midnight, and jerusalem in trumbull chicken here in most welcome to the r t. use our it is in lots in america. we begin um, breaking news from bolivia. president lewis r k, and his ministers have denied stomach attempted military crew into the fact old capital le passed. the president is now reportedly holding a live tv debate with an army general whose leading being could earlier soldiers and military vehicles were seen storming on entering the presidential palace in

quite extraordinary frontage. and a parliamentary and governmental employees have been evacuated. this is not moment by the way where the armored vehicle tried to open the door, which it did at, but the police came in to stop cried entering. no speaking on local tv, army general juan jose is a new guy, said quote, there will be a new comment of ministers. surely things will change, but a country cannot continue like this any longer. former bolivian leader even more at all as has urged his supporters to raleigh against the crew attempt. these demanded a national mobilization to tackle the apartment needs me, the incumbents. the libyan government has urge the international community to bock, the countries authorities against the military insurgency. the president of hundreds has convened an emergency session of the southern regional block, while the e u, as well as cuban leader miguel diaz canal of spoken,

i in supports of the bolivian governments for joining us from venezuela. now is a journalist and author, diego secure. diego, thanks for your time today as we are just looking at a very much and unfolding situation in bolivia. cut this apart into the top work of all this came pretty fast. you can think about one of the main reasons just kind of a split between the possible, especially between everyone alice and we thought of interest, a sign of weakness. maybe we could think about taking into the fact that some people taking advantage of the whole situation that was all rid also be regarding the current court either warehouse or shooting. i think we can, we can easily call it a cool now and, but i see the notes here within the defensive minister there. what's to us with the

amount of change from him, the minister of the trans refused counting. here we are now and was, was escalated fairly quickly. and one of the most curious things is the usual suspects, the usual political people that you called the wrong of these kind of a fortune does auto configure police, remember from our to the new united, the former president within 2019 cool. but also look, you're up to 3 of the markham damage, which is kind of strange. we can still think it's what sales the move, or maybe they're actually surprised at the rest of the region. so what exactly? because we haven't heard exactly what the bolivian military figures spearheading this crew attempt there. so on happy about what sort of changes diego, do they want? well, it's still development so quickly. that's just hard to do. you have to have like a definitive image of what's going on, but the studio has been talking about change of i've got

a governor. he also talked about releasing the political for them for prisoners, asking the coordinators and some people from the military. so it's kind of unraveling the actual reasons why this is going on. kind of sounds like this whole spectrum. it's not allowing me to say it, it's done. it seems like a barrett situation. the kind of turned into a political thing because of all those of the well to come the rift, the conflict of nature within the proper government and also between the social moving, very active, very, very effective social movement. which clearly it's like divide on regional areas is time and i think that's how divided ours a actually the socialist forces regionally, basically some people for post away or in some to water. so that's part of the big problem here. this is no secret. this has been probably going on for these. i believe that this other varies very stupid, i would say,

but also be public level not least for a year and a half. so just like all this game between that, i mean, if you're sure you're looking for a pregnancy smell blood, you're going to, i can, i think this is kind of the situation i'm trying to be unfair force. i'm just trying to, you know, cavity level elements that we, we think we can i've covered a few could attempts and a, as in use presenter to go, but it's the 1st time i can remember a live tv debate going on between the current leader on the person, i believe it tempting at least to over throw and that's what's going on right now in bolivia that those seeing to, to tell us that there's not all payoff. so at the moment that it's, it's on the level of at least a diplomatic approach. what does it tell you as well? yeah that's, that's exactly one of the main difference between lives,

especially if you compared to the previous school in 2019. i mean there was, there was no space for dialogue. so that's why i, that's precisely just the reason on the front, i'm speculating that it could be started from a very domestic even on the military's institutional conflicts. it actually is escalated to, to a wider scale offense. yes, that's particularly very interesting because usually this kind of special being bullied. if there's this part of military insurrection, there's actually no space for dialogue and items, and i can't stress enough. the fact that all the usual sauces from the officers to political opposition are actually condemned and also tells you probably how surprised they even himself are right for without the street. yes. someone without suggest that louis r k. ben has got some support. we saw police standing off against the army as they tried to enter the presidential policy as well. he's call for help for the public

to resist. how strong is he in a room right now to actually stop this from turning into a crude into as well. um, i'm gonna get a, did it say to 50, predict exactly how this could happen. but mind you, let's believe the house, one of the most ingrained historically efficient and organic social movements and the whole region. so there's always, unless it's displayed, it's actually so even though it's not able to like, you know, to commit, take all the difference and put them aside and focus on, on restoring the normal seat back in this additional, enormously back. and i will say this, i mean, this is strong cancer distribution, reverse, you know, rolled back into some expense from that. it would depend on how clever the political dealership place you on a government level, but also on the local,

the local leadership. he was also very important and this is a moment of perhaps a waiting, the dropping corps as well as you know, between the amazon there where the cobra foundation. so, and also in the, in the sierra in the, in the, in parts. good, also, you know, try to, to open the proper channels and do something, but i think all people, i mean, also there's a high level of political conscience regardless of is drawn from and also to be going on. so that also will tell us, hopefully how much help further it is going to be rolled back. and another thing that i already asked you and also support from the international community, even also where i mean another detail the support striking you've been in for the property space delayed a bit and calling it a cool and even political leadership around it. asking for example, board julian president called holidays october 4th. not

a problem. how surprised? yeah, a lot of a lot of interesting issues at play here at diego. thanks so much for coming into the program. at short notice i'm giving us your, your thoughts on what is on folding in la pas today, journalist and or 3rd ego secure from caracas. alright, let's move to another part of the globe. know, the voice of the canyon. people has been heard. those were the words of the country president and noticing the scrapping of a tax hike bill that spark days of protest in the country at deadly days as well. at least 22 people were killed some 160 more injured in the arrest years. what else were you able to to set about the i am asked by bill during the concession speech, having to click on this 1 of january improve addition, but i wanted to kind of to end up the printer has to be 2024. i left on friday

for the paper of kinda perhaps that would be that would be but they were nothing to do with these by non speed of 2024 feet. and therefore, i would not sign the 2020 for 5 months, but and subsequently been with a drop off done on president a few days of chaos and divide as president william who to have subject to the textbook while addressing the nation for the 2nd time. since the quote is broke out, the present state, so that changes data has reduced by a tremendous amount of receives it has become quite evident that to the members of the public filling system the need for him to make more proficient. she runs a government, but also these people and the people have spoken. those are some of his words asked me to t f. that's a lot to sign in the boat and to move. what do you mean by this city?

became part of the cost to be controversial. fine is full. what's what have increased the taxes and price is a face of goods and as they say, so items following that protest, i'm rocked to the capital of metal o b and police open fire on crowds around parliament. some protest is even menaced into upon them in the to all football to keep the demonstrations going until the high schools and i missed those classes with and to ride police in the capital off can yeah, the medical association even confirmed that's at least 13 people have been killed in that protest. the move by the president could be seen as an attempt to try and de escalate tenses, but to say the city, the presidency is kenya as in paul. to listen,

it states good. we have pete. can those to be here the that that are the word in front of protein products that are the own government make my pay them locked in settlement of $500000000.00 last week today found out that by the length of day number one under the name of a country in front of the discomfort of debt that full really aim to integers. unpopular attached proposals that to the reason for so much and the across the nation. the proposal consisted off with tax reforms and increases on monetize digital content creation. tax increases on digital payments, less then transfers and digital money payments, which i think increases on grade and visible. and those are particularly all

teaching in the country this quite reliant on the mobile mind. me and this is the reaction from some of those citizens. we are here to the, to the problem. we want to walk you through this. why is the pause this finance bill? there will be demonstrations every day until the government gives us accountability or follow texas. we just want them to be accountable for the state and government, which kind of how people are not. we're not even close to the president. the constant tax increases in can, you know, one of the many reasons why the bite and administration the if and as the international financial institutions, we're quite happy with prisons neutral. at the same time, he has been between the competing demands of, of linda, such as the item april,

which have it's the government of kenya. to cut this is to obtain more financing and a hard to push population. so it will be quite interesting to see and yeah, how deluxe will be if it will react to, to this move to gaza for at least 14 people were killed in school buildings this week by is really strikes that's according to palestinian authorities. a warning you may find the following images distressing footage from the scene here in dallas, a city showing people calling the bodies of children from the leasing ruins of the buildings. local schools have been use the shelters by scores of civilians. however, the idea of claims a target from us members has been using the sites as cover for their operation. while in the nearby city of fate slough, the authorities say the idea as part of the building with at least 14 people inside,

including many women and children. rescuers are scrambling to find the polls. survivors from the ripple and across in the west bank. it's really true it's, i've tried it out a fresh series of raids, detaining dozens, palestinians. that's that was 2 gals in journalist on activists rami and joining us from cairo around the good to see you just on a personal note. first we understand you've left some family members, friends and colleagues in gaza. have they been telling you about the current situation there over the past number of days? how is it for any dozen or for any but a scene in the film goes on inside or outside goes off. of course he affected in this way. busy and destroyed by a friend or a member in the family or, but by that situation and on. and what is happening now is what's

happened since 8 months ago is fighting between is what i learned from us, the number of palestinians who didn't get 3 of these. i know, but the care of people inside of the looking for up to sort of fees for you, but they have nothing to do and they are between how mass i'm is really on me. the is very edit site. never stop to from october 7th i'm sending now n. as in all over the age, the media. they are probably getting him a lot to is the, the civilian people that they really and family, a lot of friends, our partner. so i think it's, it's not making sense that when the in the video of the is really are the thing that there are 5 things from us. none of them know 5 things from of their pricing and probably getting the people chris says that most lives inside of the idea if accuse is a mouse of using civilians as human shields. do you put any responsibility

rami on those perhaps militant using civilian infrastructure such as schools and other areas like that to, to perhaps fire rockets from where there are a lot of civilians moving there. they can't move anywhere else. do you do, do you, can you say that it's completely one side of the you know, most policies and since 2000 and say 2007, putting the responsibility over from us because they are not doing they only, they only deal with my, with our bus supplement and we think and so on the policy ends in 5 years of sip already. they are putting that as well. so, but i do order from us before the 7th, but after october 7th, i think is right. if i think everyone in god run up 5 things from us anymore, down for i think the people that are getting the people, most of the people who killed our civilian. yes. maybe we have how much?

$5000.00. but of course, these style that sophie this down to us of did, but it's not far from us, it's on family. so i think the people of course inside the putting that as well. so what is the on from us before the 7th of october, but after the 7th of october, all that is supposed to what to do on, on these are and not have just from us. okay, well, we can only hope that your family members are safe and well on your united soon. at raleigh, thank you for speaking to us today. 1000 journalists, inactive as rami, i'm on you or i want to bring, you know, to north western russia. what a passenger train has the real to injuring at least 14 people. 3 of those hurt are said to be in a critical condition. dramatic footage of across his immediate aftermath was posted on line by one of the passengers. a good enough for what's happening here is awful . this is our real car. we managed to get out. several other cars are scattered

nearby. this train craft took place in the north western russian republic of call me a going from bar code to, to and over cbs concurring uh, 215 people on board. the number of injured is still being confirmed. there may be more in the future as more information becomes available. this is as a result of glass and blunt trauma from basically beds and tables flying around in the train cars that overturned and word the rail as a result of this incidents. but luckily, no debts have been reported now emergency services are working hard at the scene. they've set up so far to temporary aid points to assist the passengers affected by this crash. and we've also heard from local authorities that another for medical brigades are still on their way right now by train. and another to medical helicopters have been deployed to the area because it's essentially impossible to

get there right now. uh by any sort of uh, car or land vehicle now in terms of what actually caused this tragedy to take place . one of the main theories right now is that the weather conditions created a situation in which the rails became so slippery, due to heavy rains that it caused the train to the rail. but of course, we're gonna have to wait for the results of an official investigation to get to the bottom of what exactly happened here. now 2 of donald trump's advisors haven't failed the so called peace plan for ukraine. they say it would be an act if the republican front winter winds november's us presidential vote on the proposed club for washington would stop sending weapons to ukraine on less key upstarts. peace talks with moscow of the same time, the whitehouse would send even more fire power to the printings. if russia refuses to negotiate aid on those parts of their long term planning for bass drums,

advisors say ukraine should be quote, armed to the teeth. the us republican party is presumptive nominee himself has reportedly endorsed the plan he had previously pledged swift lee in the ukraine conflict if he returns to the oval office will have the horrible war between russia and ukraine settled. and i will do something that nobody else will be able to do. i will prevent world war 3. i will get the war between russia and ukraine. settled forthwith. it will be settled very well, that's welcome. live on to the program, michael maloof, former pentagon senior security policy. unless michael, good to see you, your initial take on, on this proposed plan as well. thanks for having me una, it's, it's um, disjointed. it's confusing and it, it lacks any recognition of fundamental givens that, that we have uh, of that,

that have led to this conflict in the 1st place. you also got to keep in mind that both kellogg and flights the authors of this proposal or the accounts they, they, they never established the national security imperative or even being in the prime of the 1st place. they, even though they are very, the physically, the running consensus is that it's sort of rains more tor favoring russia. reality is, is that it is talks about continue the arm ukraine, even though a lot of me put in this said he's ready to go see it. but the recurrent is, are not ready to negotiate. so does that mean that under a trump new trump administration, that's a continue army ukraine? well, that just perpetuates the problem. so i, i think it's a very disjointed proposal and it's absolutely contrary to what trump

initially said when he was even in office and, and in terms of leading up to the conflict and, and also it this in, and that was number one, the, he, he, he wanted to know funding for ukraine and number 2, he actually was talking with a lot of people about spheres of influence. reestablish the spheres of influence so that if russia stays out of the us back yard us would stay out of the rushes backyard. this, this, this report, this proposal is, is, is, is a silly and it's a, it's a non sequitur. and then there's a, another aspect, of course, the u. s. political establishment, especially the military industrial complex. would they agree to such a plan if it was put in front of the it's probably not, but at the same time they've got a lot more with china to look forward to. so they'll continue to get their funding

. now this, this a absolutely fuse of the military industrial complex. they've already got 2 conflicts on hand. and there's, and they're, they're 18 for a 3rd one before buying leaves office. if he's defeated. so it's, it's, uh it, they're, they're, they are a true rep, terrific lobby. they're sort of a silent lobby. and we see that very much in the case now with israel and also with ukraine. you've got a lot of republicans who are a guess what trump is in what's in this proposal. they want to go a full bore and continue providing weapons to ukraine. no matter what it dismisses completely what led up to this conflict. it's the, you know, 8 years of bombing, don bosley hans almost daily by, by keith and, and, and the fact that the residence of those regions then asked for, for help. because but the west is never informed about what let up they,

they think well, put and woke up one morning today. i think i think i'll go in and say that you face . and, and this, this proposal written by these vs on dismisses any of that. it's, it's very shallow and it, and it doesn't take into account the history of what the underlying causes of this . and it does not layout the national security imperative to even be there. or this, this are for the overall strategic picture of what, what, and dismissed as entirely the encroachment by nato. over the years toward the 2 at toward the russian border that prompted this. so as far as i'm concerned, is that on the right i and by the way, trump did not give full endorsement of this. he smiled favorably. yeah, it's an idea. let me think about it, but he never fully embraced it. so i think there may be still some wiggle room,

but if these 2 guys are going to be his it principal advisors for a trumpet. it's always interesting. i'm engaging mike on the list, former pentagon, senior security policy, all us live on the program. thank you. thank you. you are i thought is where we say bye for now. i do hope you've enjoyed us again, the 30 for more. i'll be mid week stories making the headlines, and there's quite a few of them right here on our to introduction the the judges only saw a few smiles errors on the 15th and the concerns. well, i'm not just saying they've been all right. we'll start jumping to the general gravity present the but it was good that we talked. a lovely does shows

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freaking use and artsy, bolivia and soldiers leave the main square in luck because after storming the presidential palace sending a par included to attend with an army general following, took both risk cover, the homeland countries leader has urged the public to resist. also a head to the people of going to have started the that would be that they will with nothing to do with these find on the 2021st item. feet in a dramatic can you turn the canyon presidents. props controversial. i am asked by tax bill that sparks deadly protests in the east african nation and also the,

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r t international. my name's union o'neill. we begin with breaking news from bolivia. president lewis r k on his ministers hub, did not spend a attempted army in the sites american nations. the fact to capital look of the company's leader has appointed a new military chief who has ordered soldiers to return to their products. here's what president our case said. in his latest tell of vice statement to day we are experiencing an attempt included south by soldiers who are staying the uniform to our it's like, you know, political constitution of the state. but we also have soldiers who know that our constitution and respectful current regulations is most important. we are certain that all these events, including the new appointments, will appease the unconstitutional appetites of some military hands. we call on the believing and people to mobilize while remaining comb. the earlier studies from the

scene showed soldiers storming the presidential palace. an armored vehicle was used to run the gates military police units were then seen entering the building, parliamentary, and governmental employees being evacuated from the early in the police. however, the soldiers have since left the palace according to local media. the incumbent, bolivian government has urge the international community to box the countries authorities against the military insurgents. presidents of hollinger, as has convened an emergency, especially of the c like regional block, while they use as well as cuban liter miguel d as in l. i've spoken out in support of the elected source of the government. it will be a part of the leader all the coo attempt, general one who was it was unique. it had previously refused to go into retirement over is empty government position. speaking all the live in tv earlier on wednesday, the general said quote, there will be

a new cabinet of ministers. surely things will change, but our country cannot continue like this any longer. following the storming of the presidential palace, journals, indigo, reportedly health face to face talks with president r k. however, those negotiations are said to have stalls or otherwise former bolivian liter eco. morales has urged his supporters to rally against the crew attempts he is in the same party as president r k. but relations have been spring and this video shows hundreds of locals on strings called in la pulse. the smallest is also demanded a national mobilization to tackle the a part of newton the us speak now to denny. sure, a former professor of less than american i'm part of being studies at the city university of new york down of you're most welcome am bolivian soldier. it's

just been the latest news line have reportedly dispersed from the central square of la pause. does it look like the qu attempt has failed the readings unit? this, this is, this is a desperate moment. a scary moment, not just for believe you. but for all of south america, this is almost a carbon copy of what we saw are in 2019 a cool, 2019. they were successful with the blessing of the organization of american states . when all of the paperwork, the paper trail comes out shortly. uh, washington's hands in the hands of general laura richardson and the southern command are behind this. the libyans have been warning now for weeks, months and really years of the us embassies and involvement in this cool. this is something that we've seen hundreds and hundreds of times through the years across the caribbean, across south american, across the global south of neutral

r c's. presidency is been an anti imperialist presidency. of course, we heard you on my skin. others say that they could coo and delivery or, and they could cruise anywhere. did they want? so was seeing that play out in real time. now. does it appear to be almost a half hearted attempt, so opposition, figureheads at did not ad bach what was happening as well. we also heard the e you saying that the their support was with the elected government as well. so why tardy this site? not, this is still not a 100 percent in clear. uh, well, we do know uh there are different uh, fractions within the bolivian. uh it leaves in the side of the cruise area area is a big present presidential showdown uh, next year, april more dollars. they said that hill tossing his head back in he's by far the

most popular elected official in the country. we've also seen in the past 18 months, a division within the ruling party within the movement towards socialism. this is something that does not bode well. the unity of the different producing sectors of bolivia is extremely important. so we hope that this moment this, this moment of attention. this moment of the showdown of the different class forces in the country brings back both pricing in our city and the former and probably future president able morales in a show of unity. we've seen the social movements come into the streets across the country to resist uh what, what looks like and exciting the military cool. that at this point does not look successful. just returning to your 1st down straight down to you while it being and what the us considers it's backyard. bolivia has recently been leaning towards partnerships with russia and china essentially making decisions for itself. do

you see that, that, that kind of swing in the concrete being an issue or no question, eunice, this is a big blow against a multi polarity. it's no secret that washington has turned everything to all the throne. the democratically elected governments in nicaragua, uh in, in cuba. now for 65 years there's been a high, i've been war against that as well as since 1999 in bolivia has been a key country in this boulevard. and our equation in momentum. we've heard both lopez over at ward in mexico and see, oh my gosh. so this allies in hunt door is denouncing this. who attends? if there is a military home that comes in, it's a power. this will be to the chagrin of the boulevard in camp, in something that washington would try to take advantage of the already have the li,

who's inside multi polarity and size south american unity in neighboring argentina . so what happens with the next are 48 hours in bolivia is key is you pointed out again, is not just to south america but to the efforts of multiple already across the world. and just finally the, the general who apparently attempted this crew attempts he was very vocal. and what he said was the weakening of the army. um, general society life. what sort of changes do figures like, like the general want what, what are they actually seeking here? in general, so need goes a long time admirer, of the cooler terms of the past, of what was call, i get to see the dirty war in argentina invited. why or why? believe you and she, late of augusta opened a shea and of a general let the 1973 cool i and she late,

they seek to return these countries to an era of dependency. they want to make sure that the lift, the resources are the massive gas resources in these countries are siphoned off. r siphoned off to to the multi to the multinational companies that have long exploded bolivia and uh in south america. so that's what the show down is all about. okay, thank you for your time today. donnie shaw, a former professor of lofton, american and caribbean studies of the city, university of new york to another, a headline stories today. then the voice of the kenyan people has been heard. those were the words of the countries, presidents and lansing, the scrapping of a tax hike, bill that spark days or protests in the country, a deadly one as well. at least 22 people were killed at a 160 more injured in the unrest. here's what else william rudo said about the i am

asked by bill during his concession speech. having to click on this one of drinking position, but i ended up going to end up. that plan has to be 2024. i left the journey for the paper of going to have started out but there was nothing to do with these by non speed of 2020 for i can feet and therefore i would not sign the 2020 for finance but and subsequently been withdrawn so often on president a few days of chaos and deputy vitus president willing to have to get to the tech store while addressing the nation for the 2nd time. since the quote is broke out, the present state to the king is due to has reduced by

a tremendous amount of receives it has become quite evident that to members of the public still insist on the need for him to make more positions. she runs a government, but also these people and the people have spoken. those are some of his words asked me to see that she will not be signing the boat in to move. what do you mean by this city? became in parliament costs to be controversial. fine is full what's what have increased the taxes and price is a face of goods and as a says, so items following that protest brought to the capital of nairobi and police open fire on crowds around parliament, some protest as even menace to enter upon them in the also ball to keep the demonstrations going until the high schools and i'm in those

classes with and to ride for niece in the capital off can yeah, the medical association even confirm that at least 13 people have been killed in that protest. the move by the president could be seen as an attempt to try and de escalate tenses, but essentially the presidency is kenya as in paul to missing it states. but, and we have pete can those to be here the better of the word in front of protein products as the own government make repaid and often settlement of $500000000.00 last week today found out that by the 5th of october and the name of the country from the discomfort of debt that full really aimed to introduce unpopular attached proposals that to the reason for so much and the

across the lease. and the proposal consisted off what tax reforms and increases on monetize digital content creation, tax increases on digital payments less then transfers digital money payments which will take increases on braid and visible. and those are particularly all teaching in the country this quite reliant on the mobile mind me and this is the reaction from some of those citizens we added here to the interests of our children. the problem we want to be watching this at this point is the pause this finance bill. there will be demonstrations every day until the government gives us accounts ability to follow taxes. we just want them to be accountable. we have going on this phase. i'm here, the government, the government who is kind of here to help people not. we're not even

close to the presidents. these constant attacks increases in can, you know, one of the many reasons why the bite and administration the if and as the international financial institutions, we're quite happy with prisons neutral. at the same time, he has been between the competing demands of, of linda, such as the item is, which have it's the government of kenya. to cut this is to obtain more financing and a hard to push population. so it will be quite interesting to see and yeah, how deluxe. so if we, if we move active to this move as to guys and now we're at least 14 people were killed in school buildings this week by is really strikes that is according to palestinian authorities. a warning you may find the following. images distressing footage from the scene in kansas city shows people pulling the bodies of children from the blazing ruins of the building. local schools,

helping used uh shelters by scores of civilians. however, the idea claims it targeted from us members who've been using the sites as cover for their operations in the nearby city of people here. authority say the idea has bomb the building with at least 40 people inside, including many women and children. rescuers, how being scrambling to find a poll survivors from the rubble down to across and the westbank is really true. soft carried out a fresh series of raids, detaining dozens of policy needs. we discussed ongoing developments as well as some posts where prospects with gals and journalists rami, i'm a, i think i must have things to take to the land altogether. like portal is like the 4th of october, the same time looking for another product. it really does not policy anymore. so the de, left up on the senior movement. so of course is a, is thinking about creating a new policy in, in monday can come to the photos from us for making these these fire without get

sure that they will take the leads of the, in the future to the left. make sense for the, for machine info from her mouth thoughtful, is that just, you know, and this is coming from the united nations, but the without any practice and then and, and dig around because of that home us accept this decision. but without doing anything, we want to make it happen or also maybe is lead accept any of this as soon as something with the doesn't mean that. ready will make any useful things to in this the so the people inside of um, of course the people inside these way looking for a few slides looking good for and attending days, lady hostages to their homes. and also we are looking to attend assuming young people inside. yeah, that's what their home is because also they are like component cnn hostages. also

know after a 14 year long legal battle and almost 2000 days behind bars. julian assange has walk free on this, not home in australia. this is the moment he was met by his family, a camera report. the. 6 the, the, you can imagine the emotion there. well, the wiki likes funder meeting necessary pit stop on a remote pacific island, where he appeared in court on pled guilty to a single charge of conspiracy. as per deal struck with washington, the us judge their sentence tend to time served the the

yeah, as you heard there as soon as could be seen leaving the court with the free meals for over a decade off and bustling extradition to the us. and while his saga is finally over, his legal team sees the case of his showing impact showing the lens. washington will go to limits, attempt to quote, criminalize journalism unprecedented in the united states to use the espionage act to criminally. prosecute the journalist for a publisher. it's in the more than a 100 year history of that law. it is never been used in this fashion. julian spent years in bel marsh. no one should spend a day in prison for giving the public news worthy and important information. in this case, information that the united states government had committed war crimes. underneath that, there's an issue of you know, how he changes for you. what do you have to do?

how we have to bend his knee if you like, to accept a criminal conviction. and this goes to the heart of the debate. now, you know, the united states will maintain that julian hassan just noticed as the a 7, a criminal. uh, this has huge impact on journalism, on a global scale. the united states, of course, was the engine of the case against the julian assign, so it's understandable that amount with health problems with the young family who had spent you know, you know, almost 15 years, essentially imprisoned 7 years, the ecuadorian embassy, remember. and then a bell marsh. why you security prism 91 who knows that the the bell marsher security for the this is a very green place, rapists and murderers and terrorist it's a bit as secure a place you could put anybody have julia and such as a journalist. quite a gentle ok. so this did so the max, the brutality of the whole engine behind this one of his lawyers at outlining the

reality of the deal and the impact that this deal will have going forward on, on global journalism for years. and us government has claimed that these publications did great harm to day in court of the united states. government admitted that there was not a single person anywhere that they can produce. there was actually harms where these publications, in order to when he's freedom, joanne pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit espionage for publishing. evidence of us will crime, human rights abuse, human rights, abusing us wrong doing around the world. this is journalism. this is the criminalization of journalism. and while the plato does not set a traditional precedent, that's not a court decision. the prosecution itself, that's a president that can be used against the rest of the media for the process in a very dangerous place. it's not, it's not evidence that it will move

towards more protection, but rather less that would have been the, the only good outcome for the press in general. if, if the u. s. government had abandoned this case is hardly nobody from the united states, a culpable in the crime is the wiki leaks expose the julian assign. she has dedicated his life to expose it. nobody has been charged with anything. you've got well over a 1000000 civilians dead in afghanistan and iraq, syria, olivia, the, the list goes on and on and on. so the mind who expose the crimes is never criminal . the people carried out the crimes which he exposed are completely blame is as it seems. so again, it's gonna come back to the mechanism by which the max of taking their pound of flesh you feel like you most things you need to us. you must accept that you're a criminal and it's very difficult to see how anybody wouldn't have accepted this deal after such a long time in solitary confinement,

most local conditions that he had to take the deal due to his health. but the big issue here is, what does this mean for global journalism? what does it mean for the pursuit of truth? meanwhile, interestingly, a trouble of, of more than 44000 emails on the wiki leaks website has mysteriously gone off line just hours after duty massage was released. now the files detailed hard leading us democratic party figures, conspired to support hillary clinton over bernie sanders for the 2016 presidential nomination r t correspondent caleb moping in new york city, picks up the story. as julia sanchez, 14 year ruling, the legal battle reached its conclusion, we now see that thousands of hacked emails from the democratic national committee have been removed from the website. if you go to the website and try to look at them, you'll see internal server error. that is the message that you will see. and these

are emails that came from 2016 when we're here leaks. revealed information showing that the democratic national committee that leads the us democratic party was not acting and partially, and was actively working to make sure that bernie sanders did not get the nomination. and that hillary rodham clinton did get it, and wiki weeks was provided with 19000 emails as well as 8 attachments to show that . and they've all gone missing. in the immediate aftermath of julian hassan being released and the 14 year long legal battle coming to an ap, now, you'll recall that it was shortly after these emails originally were published by wiki, reeks that hillary clinton is reported to have discussed killing julian a saw that's recall, can we just drone this guy? clinton openly inquired, offering a simple remedy to silence

a songy and some other week you weeks via a plan to military drone strike, according to state department sources. that are quite a bit of outrage about these remarks in us media. after all, she was calling for the extra judicial murder of a journalist. now hillary clinton denied that she made these statements and this happened as mainstream us media went into an overdrive saying that the packing of the emails had been akins, we receive from russia, emmet. julie amazons was somehow a russian agent. let's recall the media hysteria back in 2016 and d. n. c. a was hacked. they believed by the russians. communications were likely seized by a group of tied to the russian government and cyber security experts are blaming the hack attack on the intelligence agencies of russian president vladimir potent russian state. actors broke into the dnc, stall these emails. now, no evidence was ever provided to prove it. somehow russia was involved in the

events, or the julian assad was working for russia when he published. i'm out. but these claims were repeated all across you as a media to feed what became known as the russian gate. narrative that hung over the trunk presidency, much of which was completely and thoroughly debunk by habit, instead, continued to serve as throughout the trump administration. now, after a 14 year long grueling legal battle julian assigned, she was forced to plead guilty to one count of violating the espionage act. he is now selling in the united states, but he has been released to return home to australia. and many people around the world are looking at the case as a pretty late example of hypocrisy. when it comes to western leaders and their calls for transparency and human rights, and the protection of journalists and freedom of the press, etc. the u. s. embassy in ukraine has confirmed the depth of one of its stuff. first in key of the body of the all named diplomatic katasha was

found in a hotel room on tuesday. the american embassy has not disclosed any additional details. i discussed the story with us investigative journalist edwards, all who said the death raises many questions in regard to where they found the body because it is odd the very, very small information. there was one piece of information that did release which started kind of ridiculous. they said the man had high cholesterol. i don't know about you, but i hope they are find me dead in the hotel room. they don't say well and were just, he just wasn't very healthy. i hope they do it on the top. see how they do it of us because it's very peculiar on the, on the fact is whether edward but he actually just arrived about a week or so mid june. you know, if somebody is chronically ill on his health, i suppose in the jeopardy work where he could die. and it just raises so many questions as to why he would be there for them. and i'll go down that route 1st of all. sure. one thing i found the hotel he was staying in specifically is known to

have sound proofed rooms. now this could be nothing. okay, but there is this discussion of, there was no violence found on the body that was one of the apart from the uh, the statement put out officially by the state department, but it was also family sound proof the room and there's no discussion about the cameras hilton's made on notice, maybe you do, it's a very expensive hotel, very, very high class. they have cameras for each of the hallways. there is nothing about any visitors that they made very clear to not make talk with any kind of his actions before the night before the day after possibly this man. he died for natural causes because he was looking at the great mass that he was about to have to inherit as natasha chase and united states. so you're trained, i want to know more information about this stuff. but in regards to the corruption and the state of the relations been to us and ukraine, why would they put someone so unhealthy in the wars up? ok that's, that's what, yeah. this, it's a, it's a force um,

what is your to put one of your best people? so maybe they don't have many good people that's. that's where some people might go in their, their logical analysis of us. well, that's where we leave the news runs off for now, but remember, you can have your say on any of the stories we've been rolling today over at the r t dot com, you'll find plenty more there to keep you informed them, to entertain the

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the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle, viewers of this programs. i've certainly come across the observation that ukraine is on its last legs. indeed, ukraine's battlefield situation is grim and worst by the day. however, it needs to be asked whether nato is on its last legs. the answer is certainly no the cross. how can you create? i'm joined by my guess, carla nixon in washington. he's a political analyst in lebanon. we have angie wong. she is a journalist and co host of the final countdown on scrutiny international and assemble. we cross through fedex a real i'm are, he is a historian and political commentator, right across our girls and the fact that means it can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate where we get started folks, you know, i,

i want to express my great happiness. the julia sanchez finally got his freedom back and the bomb a nation of justice. the never should have happened. julia sanchez, free. that means the rest of us are free. so now on 2 business study, you know, and i was, i was thinking of doing this program last friday before the events that happened over the weekend. the attack on civilians and crime in and then terrorist attack and august on. and you know, i keep coming across you crate is on its last legs last legs. i've been hearing this now for quite a few months now. indeed, it may be on its last legs, but that's not what this is all about. this is about nato trying to inflict a strategic failure on russia. this is what it's about not ukraine. go ahead and assemble. yes, i think that is the main issue and that's why it's very difficult to predict when this order finally, and if ukraine were on its own the what would the end of it for ukraine and defeat a long time ago?

and i think we should even be more comprehensive. this isn't just about nato. this is also about us, has turned itself into. so for nato appendix, and it's more generally about of us than gender, that i'm the, the, the, the shape of the united states. but it's a contract often to going to shake off. and unfortunately, if you look at various moves that have been made in you concerning the financing concerning readiness to try to keep this will going for us if they can. and if you look at various moves that has been tried in the usa, of the situation is actually less stable. but the comfort dick is this will succeed . but what i do see in the past is an intention to keep going, if necessary, from their perspective. for years, they all cause the issues fixed. this, for instance, that you claim you,

that the european industrial base is just not sufficient for it is not the right industrial base for roy economy even if they've been using the term now for at least over a year. uh, the european armies are actually not very good at turning money into comeback battalion, so into complex capabilities in general, this is very but known, even the economists acknowledges of the cap, so money, it's a problem that doesn't make them necessarily more powerful. they have recruitment problems, and of course my last point would be that what ever the collective rest wants to do, listed in your brain, they have to worry of issue crazy and manpower at least one. now if they don't want to escalate even worse and ukrainian man how is limited and has been strongly diminished. and that's a, as the context in which we see already discussed and being initiated in ukraine. certainly to prepare people of lorenzo mobilization age once again. it's a $25.00 now. now we get talk about 21,

and i've seen people to try to lloyd even further. if the collective rest, this half is weird, then ukraine is going to blend right. even worse than has already happened before. this is over. yes, and it seems say is, if that is not a major concern of its western backers. remarkably, you know, and see what we can see when i, i started seeing this when they took the height of the comp like became quite obvious. and russians favor the terrorism would be use and we saw that over the weekend, particularly in the, in the russian authorities and made it very explicit. the, the defense ministry is usually very, very, it's a mom they, they don't like this talk a lot. they, they give a lot of numbers, but they don't give context this time they gave context. this was an american military. um, uh, and munition missile that was guided by americans may be a ukrainian press the button. but this is something the united states as a part of the war,

and they've made it very clear that they will react to it. i didn't use the word retaliate, but they will react to it. go ahead entry. yeah, and this comes, this term, most recent terrorist attack comes only a few weeks after the big terrorist attack up city hall. if you remember that in russia. so you're gonna see this more, more often because clearly the ukraine is losing its ground. remember, it was just about a week or 2 ago that's the lensky had his. suppose that piece on that right. uh, that really ended nowhere. and then immediately rushed or came out and said, look, we're ready for peace and put in did his asian tour to make sure he assured his allies in asia. so all of this is push pull. and the late is, you know, being a terrorist attack, it's been identified that us military weapon tree has been used in that terrorist attack. so the us has a lot to answer for in that respect. and you know, we're, so the fog of war,

no one's actually claimed responsibility for the latest russian attack in crimea. but the problem is, you know, you have an incoming, uh, new secretary general of nato coming in marked roots. right. and he is a ukranian kind of a sympathizer, so it almost feels and he comes in and in october of this year, it almost feels as if nato is kind of a ukrainian proofing itself in the event of a trump administration. coming in the following january. should trump wins because trump has already said he is not for this, and he is certainly not for nato continual. i'm not sure that i'm not so concerned about that m g because they did m p to him while he was not president. so carl, and what's to stop the congress from impeaching him before he becomes president? i mean it's, it's neither here nor there. it's the, it's the entered a departmental consensus, the account, sir. unfortunately, democracy doesn't,

but staying with you, uh, garland. i mean, obviously what nato wants is russia to react very harshly of to the attack on cry. mia, over the weekend, they're not going to get what they want. they're going to be disappointed. it will be a symmetrical. it may not even be in the region, but one thing i can give my opinion um, i think that to western drones should be driven out of the blacks the altogether that may be what they may do. garland to. yeah, i think that, um uh, what's that will um take action? i think the buy of our meeting or helping to supply in advance the military interest of some of their allies and us is adversaries. i think that's for sure. and i've felt all along, you know, that russia is winning, and they will maintain course and speed and they will continue to win. the reason they understand that the reasons that they're getting this desperation from us empire is specifically because they're waiting. and the us empire is trying to do

something to throw them off there again to get them to react in a way that's different than they are reacting now. because of what they're doing is working. i do not think that the russian leadership understands that, that the way they fight the they're fighting this war is to exhaust their adversaries to destroy the capability of the west. to utilize you to continue to utilize ukraine as a, you know, as a, as an, as a weapon against russia. and they're going to continue doing what they're doing. understanding that if they keep doing this, that they're going to have success. the only thing that can, that can slow their success is if they react to some of these prob occasions and alter those, that successful course that there are one right now when you great. well, it's headache, you know, going back to something you said earlier, i mean, this is part of a much larger plan. you know, i, if you look at russian history, i mean, it least has modern history of threats, of always come from the west. okay. and this is just the continuation of it,

this time, it is the entire industrialized west. that wasn't always the case when we think of the 3rd reich, or napoleon. so this is a, a western design. we have to remind our viewers. when you look at western imperialism, there's only one great land mass. they never conquered. it's called russia. go ahead 30. you know, i, i think that is using to in terms of the, the power that unfortunately is leading the west to migrate with black. i think that you're paying for the e u u p instant main to your pins for long have for bath against tonight at states. but if you think about the united states as needing, but it's west wide for them, it's not only about about so although their focus is now on russia, they have 400 years of these sort in terms of you raise your right and they have a very clear conception of a yeah, if misguided conception of geo politics sees you raise of the location of the

pieces of history of the hop land right and know how it is supposed to be able to execute jam. i mean, in you raise of this, they apply to russia. they also apply to china by the way, right. and then the united states has now pursued again for at least a 100 years of now the more by now is strategy of preventing any regional head gemini, anywhere else on the cloak, right? not a global hegemony any reach the exam on it. and russia is one of those powers that is capable of building the region that had gemini, and this is a desperate attempt. this ukraine was on the side of the west as a desperate attempt to degrade most of you politically. and to the private of the capacity of doing this, especially in the fact or lines of china, which is the worst possible nightmare. and i believe i feel that the rest is this time fading. i mean, obviously the future is unpredictable. i don't have christopher boy,

but from every same that big scene over the last 2 years, a little more than 2 years. this western attempt hasn't worked on any plan. it hasn't worked militarily. it hasn't worked economically. it hasn't worked manically, they haven't shredded the bus and economy, which they try to have isolated most internationally and the proxy for and ukraine so to speak. the competing aspects of would have had to do feature rational, really one of the better for you hasn't turned off, is they either. and right now i agree this investment and stuff differentiated recently. so there's a few days ago, right now process, and this is initiative. all along the front line, and i do think as long as you said, i'm sorry, i can't remember who, but i do think that there is an element of exciting panic creeping into best and reactions, bottles, costs for all the thoughts live on this planet right together that inside and panic on the sides of the rest is

a very dangerous phenomenon. it makes some even less rational. it makes some one predictable again, yes. and particularly when you see your own head gemini, the diminishing right in front of your eyes, in a very rapid rate. this is something that also engenders a lot of panic. i'm going to jump in here, folks, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine. stay with our team, the,

the, the russian states. never as, as tight as i'm one of the most sense community. all sense and up the the speed you want else hall's question about this, even though we will bend in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on rochester routing and supports the r t spoke next. even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the student services for the question, did you say to stephen twist,

which is the, the welcome back across stock? were all things are considered? i'm curious about your mind you were discussing. you create the, okay, let's go back to entry, you know, and one of the things that i find very frustrating in the western coverage of this conflict is all the or missions. well, all of us and our viewers are aware of the address they've put in, gave to these diplomatic corps last week. and it's, it's very interesting if you look at it, it's, it's long and was something he actually read and was very serious. but what was focused on most which got no coverage in the west, is it searching for and establishing

a new security order in europe. and this is what this is all about from russia's position, lot about land, you know, it's not about expansion. is he always here is a how or how can all of us live here together, where we have security, that is indivisible. i know that it was a popular term when i was coming up, but you almost never heard hear it now. and there's something that the west willfully ignores. they want victory, they want to crush. they want to destroy rushes as we need to have security. and when we have security we can have peace. that is an element you never hear in the west, angie? no, absolutely. and by i put in saying that a completely destroys the western narrative that rushes the bad guy, and we're the good guys and we're helping ukraine to feed the bad guys. they need to create this narrative, mainly for the military complex, right? the industrial complex that they keep feeding congress keep speeding money to remember us so much money has gone into

a lot of these defense contractors and military producers of that. you know, a lot of these equipment and, and things that we're buying won't be produced until at least 2029. so, you know, it's, it's unfortunate that the western media is not giving the coverage to put, and that's why he himself gives these press conferences, reads them out loud and put some online wherever he can. but you know, this is a propaganda war. and at the moment he doesn't have an outlet for the world media. yeah. well that is, that's, but it's called western censorship. okay. i mean, as i was going to the studio, it looks like the you is gonna try the band telegram. okay. another alright. and the issue is becoming more, more like the soviet union every single day. a garland, one of the things again that i find really, um, worries some is that, um, it seems like the current to leads in the west uh, forgot how we used to be afraid of nucular war. they, you know, the russians won't do it. they, you know, they, they're too timid,

they'll back down. well as topic has already told us they, none of those things have happened. none of the things that the west thought would happen has happened. and so they, we all should be very worried about a nuclear exchange because russia is, it has a huge conventional force. the west that's a go ahead. garland. yes. and what's really dangerous is that the, um, the military capacity of, of the west has declined to a point where they don't even have, they're not even capable of defending themselves anymore. the neo liberal scam that it is, that is the western economic system has hollowed out everything, including the military industrial complex. so now the leadership of the west, if you want to call with that, these bundling hapless pools deal, they're powerful, not because their military can do anything, they understand that their, their, their ships are now, you know, subject to easily being attacked by hypersonic weapons, etc. but the only reason they feel strong is because they have nuclear weapons.

that's all they have to rely on is to swallow a suicide pill. and that's the one that doesn't that tell us that you can go up the escalation ladder pretty quick, considering what you just said, right? because when you have nothing else, when you have no other way to defend yourself, that's the only thing that you can go to in the event of a conflict because you're going to lose on day one militarily. so what do you do one day to use while it was so suicide, when i might add this, that the ruling elite is now co totally and completely, it streams from the masses into a working class. you need only look at what's happening in the elections in the united states and in um, in europe, you know, in the u. k. in france, etc. the understand that the people have had with these people. yeah. but the topic i, i agree exactly what garland says, that that's all the more reason for the quote unquote war economy giving more power

to brussels. degrading the sovereignty of the you, members of a nato directives about being able to move troops through uh, e u. countries, i mean, this is part of the project to this is the creation of the united states of europe . that so many people want and most in europe don't it was, you know, the thing about, and so your opinion is that from its inception really in the 1950s, it's been the very latest project, right. and s my latest project, it's done certain things effectively. it's boot the common market. it's good at the rock of c a as far as on can be good at it. but at the same time, it has always not been democratic. your opinion is simply not a democratic. a setup, it's been designed to give much more weight to it and it's the come from the various member countries. but that was actually a democratic accountability that they may have still at home once they've become

european union delete so that substrate goes this whole thing has the same time. what we have seen recently is that it has become an x. that should be brazen and shameless about subordinating incest to the united states to washington. right. and let's, the left on the line of cause is the key figure here, but she is by no means alone and use it for red is not much better even if it sometimes strikes a slightly different tone, right? so these are 2 ways in which the new union is institutional, the s u n. a it's, it's quite systematically from the european, so actually live in it, right? it's an inhabitant, it's the citizens who live in it and you'll see them. but again, it's against that, but the part is what happens is everybody onions, you know, valuable is intentionally and is left to the likes and of maloney. and by now we have to be for maloney fire, right, which stands for you get somebody from the smallest file right?

getting into power and they are then absorbed. yep. by going along with all these prenatal pro american policies, the next big case business might be the question that they don't know how to put and could be funds right at the end of this month, very shortly. they have very important elections. there is funds goes to the most not right. so this all right. then these are questions visit big with long 5. right? maybe not maybe. well, you know, you know, when you mentioned maloney or you know, yeah, they all worried that she was going to be the next. mussolini. and she ended up being the next tony blair. so i have not really. i'm not with the. yeah. i don't put a lot of stock into that, but i see your point now. i mean, but, you know, angie, this is one of the most interesting aspects of this. and it's something that, uh, i've had my many and my guess to discuss is that, you know, you have these european, a leads that are so subservient to the united states, what it is not in their security interest. i've always said, you know what, people say future historians will explain,

but i think it will be future psychologist that will have to explain how this happened. go head injury. yeah. i mean, certainly it's the legacy case. the ring of the us president, i don't know if that's going to happen anymore. i mean, we seen joe biden perform with european leaders the last few weeks and he's not performing very well. so i, you know, but it is legacy, it's tradition and i understand the respective countries. but i think my colleagues on this program is absolutely correct. i mean, you see all of europe and other countries around the world going far. right. and it's just dependent pendulum swinging from left to right. now, are we going to find a center, or we're going to find some sort of common sense. i'm not sure, you know, and a, i've always had a problem with the far right. but i, i get your point here, it seems to me more, more people just want to run away from behind the liberals. ok. i mean if that's fall right, i can go for that. ok. but there are many people on the left traditional left that

i see i on so many issues. it's these people in power and their ideology. i mean, i'm sure this is physically a convergence that's going on here. and it's actually a garland, we have to go back to what working people need. i mean, we, that's been absent for almost 50 years in the west. go ahead. yeah, i think we have what one of the things that's happening is in an ideological realign, i mean we are in the traditional descriptions of far right and far left and central are changing. we have what would i call an ultra liberalism before people would say ultra nationalism is fascism. i argue this let this, that this level of ultra liberalism that we have has really turned into fascism. i think what we're looking at now. people like me on what you may consider the far less than other people are considered conservative, who believes number one, 1st and foremost in international stability, which means independence, which means sovereignty, which means understanding that the us is now it's not

a us lid and they told it to us dominated nato, and it is brutally and co worth of we dominated, which we see by their actions in blowing up north streams. so i think we're seeing an oregon and we're seeing the 8 feet. so say, well, we can agree that our country should be sovereign and that we see how the problem is. we are allowing that they'll cover color revolution both of them if necessary. okay, well yeah, or worse, the worse in the case of how do i want to ask you center and assemble? does turkey stay in nato after everything is said and done? and i'm obviously thinking not only of ukraine, but i'm thinking of what's going on in palestine in the potential for war in lebanon. you know, i'm not actually an expert in texas politics. unfortunately, i don't speak text box, but as you have uh um i see, you know, signs that turkey is about to read. it can be changed. it's foreign policy. um, but at the same time, as you know,

even in size natal turkey has now for years very much insisted on its own interest and on taking positions off its own. i mean, this goes back to the s 400 issue of questions. for instance, it goes back as you rightly pointed on it. now it has to do with a busy as i believe, genocide, that is what it is committing against the palestinians. and that turkey has at least verbally and much more clearly contradicting for many states and other states and metal. i don't know about any plans to actually change its former appearance, right? this is a different issue, but i do think that turkey is insist on a sovereignty in a way that for instance, a country like canada does not or germany for that case. why it's very interesting in jail. i'll let you in the program here. i mean, we have the election coming up here. how much is ukraine going to play into the us

presidential election as well? you, well, joe biden has a problem with ukraine and also whether or not to support which side of gaza and, you know, benjamin netanyahu said to come to a joint session in congress next month. and joe biden, and democrats have a big, big problem here. i can't imagine a worst soft power event that you could have having benjamin netanyahu go as the entire global south is outraged with the way not only be as rarely as are behaving but more more, more, more importantly, how the u. s. is behaving and all of this, and by that's all the time we have. i want to thank my guest in washington 11 on and, and this is campbell, and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz. see you next time and remember across congress,

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the, you're very welcome to our, to international. my name's union o'neill. we begin with breaking news from bolivia. president lewis r k, and his ministers have denied spent a attempted army crew in the sites american nations. the fact to capital look of the companies leader has appointed a new military chief, who has ordered soldiers to return to the barracks. here's what president our case said. in his latest tell of my statement. today we are experiencing an attempt included south by soldiers who are staying the uniform to our attack, you know, political constitution of the states. but we also have soldiers who know that outcome, situation and respectful current regulations is most important. we are certain that all these events, the clean, the new appointments will appease the unconstitutional appetites of some military

hands. we call on the believing that people to mobilize while remaining comb. the earlier footage from the scene showed soldiers storming the presidential palace. an armored vehicle was used to run the gates military police units were then seen entering the building. parliamentary on governmental employees being evacuated from the early in the police. however, the soldiers have since left the palace according to local media, the incumbent, the libyan government has urged the international community to box the countries authorities against the military insurgents. the president of honduras has convened an emergency, especially of the c. like regional block one. they use, as well as cuban leader miguel z. as in else i've spoken out in support of the elected source. the government will be a part of the leader all the crew attempt. general one who was it was unique. it had previously refused to go into retirement over as the government position.

speaking all the live in tv earlier on wednesday, the general said quote, there will be a new cabinet of ministers. surely things will change, but our country cannot continue like this any longer. following the storming of the presidential palace journal, geneva reportedly health face to face talks with president r k. however, those negotiations are said to have stalls of a former bolivian leader. even what all is, has urged his supporters to rally against the who attends. he is in the same party as president r k, but relations have been spring on this video shows hundreds of locals and strings called in the post. the smallest has also demanded a national mobilization to tackle the a part of newton. they let us speak now to denny. sure, a former professor of less than american i'm tired of being studies at the city

university of new york down of you're most welcome am bolivian soldier. it's just been the latest news line have reportedly dispersed from the central square of la pause. does it look like the crew attempt has failed the readings unit? this, this is. this is a desperate moment. a scary moment. not just for believe you. but for all of south america, this is almost a carbon copy of what we saw are in 2019 a cool. the 2019, they were successful with the blessing of the organization of american states. when all of the paperwork, the paper trail comes out shortly. uh, washington's hands in the hands of general laura richardson and the southern command are behind this. the libyans have been warning now for weeks, months and really years of the us embassies and involvement in this cool. this is something that we've seen hundreds and hundreds of times through the years across

the caribbean, across south american, across the global south of neutral r c's. presidency is been an anti imperialist presidency. of course, we heard you on my skin, other say that they could qu in bolivia and they could cruise anywhere. did they want? so was seeing that play out in real time now. does it appear to be almost a half hearted attempt, so opposition, figureheads at did not ad bach what was happening as well. we also heard the e you saying that the their support was with the elected government as well. so why tardy this site? not, this is still not a 100 percent clear. uh, what we do know uh there are different uh, fractions within the bolivian. uh it leaves in the side of the cruise area area is a big present presidential showdown on next year,

april more dollars. they said that he'll tossing his head back in he's by far the most popular elected official in the country. we've also seen in the past 18 months, a division within the ruling party within the movement towards socialism. this is something that does not bode well. unity of the different producing sectors of bolivia is extremely important. so we hope that this moment this, this moment of attention. this moment of the showdown of the different class forces in the country brings back both pricing and i see in the former and probably future present. enable morales in a show of unity. we've seen the social movements come into the streets across the country to resist with what looks like and excited military cool. did at this point, does not look successful. just returning to your 1st down, straight down the why don't being and what the us considers. it's backyard. bolivia

has recently been leaning towards partnerships with russia and china, essentially making decisions for itself. do you see that that that's kind of swing in the concrete being an issue. i know question eunice, this is a big blow against multi polarity. it's no secret that washington has turned everything to all the throne, the democratically elected governments in nicaragua, in in cuba. now for 65 years, there's been a high, i've been war against that as well as since 1999 in bolivia has been a key country in this boulevard in our equation in momentum. we've heard both lopez over at ward in mexico and see, oh my gosh. so this allies in her door is denouncing this. who attends? if there is a military home, it comes in, it's a power. this will be to the chagrin of the boulevard in kemp,

and something that washington would try to take advantage of their already have the li, who's inside multi polarity and size south american unity in neighboring argentina . so what happens with the next are 48 hours in bolivia is key is you pointed out again, it's not just to south america but to the efforts of multiple, they're already across the world. and just finally the, the general who apparently attempted this crew attempt, he was very vocal. and what he said was the weakening of the army. um, general society life. what sort of changes do figures like, like uh, the general want what, what are they actually seeking here? in general, so need goes a long time, admirer, of the cool, with terms of the past of what was call, i get to see the dirty war in argentina invited. why or why? believe you and she, late of augusta opened a shea and of

a general rule that the 1973 cool i and she late, they seem to return these countries to an era of dependency. they want to make sure that the lift the resources or the massive gas resources in these countries are siphoned off r siphoned off to, to the multi to the multinational companies that have long exploded bolivia and uh and south america. so that's what the showdown is. all about okay, thank you for your time today. donnie shaw, a former professor of latin american and carnaby in studies of the city, university of new york to another over a headline stories today. then the voice of the kenyan people has been heard. those were the words of the countries, presidents and lansing, the scrapping of a tax hike, bill that spark days or protests in the country, a deadly one as well. at least 22 people were killed at

a 160 more injured in the unrest. here's what else william rudo said about the i am asked by bill during his concession speech counting to click on this one of to include permission, but i wouldn't have gone at the end of that plan has to be 2024. i left the journey for the paper of going to have started out but they wrote with nothing to do with these non speed of 2021st i'm going feet and therefore i really want to sign the trend, attentive to finance, building and subsequently been withdrawn. so often on president a few days of chaos and divide as president willing to have subject to the tech store while addressing the nation for the 2nd time since the quote is broke out to

the present state. so that changes due to has reduced by a tremendous amount of receives it has become quite evident that to members of the public still insist on the need for him to make more positions. she runs a government, but also these people and the people have spoken. those are some of his words asked me to see that she will not be signing the boat and to move. what do you mean by this city became in part of it costs to be controversial. fine is full. what's what have increased the taxes and price is a face of goods and as a says, so items of following that protest of rock to the capital of know b and police open fire on crowds around parliament. some protest is even managed to enter upon them and the

also ball to keep the demonstrations going until the high schools and i'm in those classes with and to ride for these in the capital off can yeah, the medical association even confirm that's at least 13 people have been killed in that protest. the move by the president could be seen as an attempt to try and de escalate tensions. but essentially, the presidency is kenya as in paul to missing it, states burden. we have pete. can those to be here? the better of the word and try to for us as the own government, make me pay them. nothing's done. mend of $500000000.00 last week today, found out that by the much left on the on the demo comes in front of the discount. but of that, that full really aim to integers,

unpopular attached proposals that to the reason for so much and the across the lease. and the proposal consisted off what tax reforms and increases on monetize digital content creation. tax increases on digital payments like bank transfers and digital money payments, which will can increases on bread and vegetables. and those are particularly hard teaching in the country this quite reliant on the mobile mind me and this is the reaction from some of those successes we are here to the best interests of our children. the problem we want to walk you through this is the pause this finance build. there will be demonstrations every day until the government gives us accountability of all texas. we just want them to be accountable for grading on this phase. i'm through the government, the government,

which kind of how people are not. we're not close to the president. the constant tax increases in can, you know, one of the many reasons why the bite and administration the i am if and i, the international financial institutions were quite happy with president's until at the same time he has been between the competing demands of, of linda such as the item it was have, it's the government of kenya to cut this is to obtain more financing and a hard to push the population. so it will be quite interesting to see and yeah, how deluxe will be if a move active to this move to guys, and we're at least 14 people were killed in school buildings this week by is really strikes that is according to palestinian authorities. a warning you may find the following. images distressing footage from the scene in kansas city shows people

pulling the bodies of children from the blazing ruins of the building. local schools, helping used uh shelters by scores of civilians. however, the idea of claims that target from us members has been using this site to cover for their operations in the nearby city of people here. authority say the idea has bomb the building with at least 40 people inside, including many women and children. rescuers, how being scrambling to find a poll survivors from the rubble down the across and the westbank is really true. soft car died a fresh series of raids, detaining dozens of policy needs. we discussed ongoing developments as well as some post more prospects with gals and journalists rami, i'm a, i think i must have things to take to the land altogether. like portal is likely for the 7th of october, the same time looking for another product. it really does a lot of assuming that sort of the left up on the senior movement. so of course is a, is thinking about the creating a new policy in,

in monday can come to. busy the photos from us for making these, these fire without good show that they will take the leads of the, in the future for the left. make sense for the, from a seem as or from her mouth thoughtful is that it just, you know, and this is coming with all the united nations, but the without any practice and then, and, and dig around because of that, how much accept this decision. but without doing anything, we want to make it happen also maybe as a accept any of this as soon as settling with those, the mother doesn't mean that they will make any useful things to end. this will. so the people are on the side of uh, of course the people inside the easy way looking for a few slides looking good for and attending the lady hostages through dan holmes. and also we are looking to attend so many. busy people inside the house because

also they have elected policy. and hosting is also know after a 14 year long legal battle and almost 2000 days behind bars, juliet salvage has walk free and is not home in australia. this is the moment he was met by his family, a camera report. the, the, the, the, you can imagine the emotion there, while the wikileaks funder meeting necessary pit stop on a remote pacific island, where he appeared in court on pled guilty to a single charge of conspiracy. as per deal struck with washington, the us judge their sentence and the time served the, the,

the yeah, as you heard there, it sounds could be seen leaving the quote with the free meals for over a decade of bustling extradition to the us. and while his saga is finally over, his legal team sees the case of his showing impact showing the lens. washington will go to limits, attempt to criminalize journalism, unprecedented in the united states to use the espionage act to criminally. prosecute the journalist for a publisher. it's more than a 100 year history of that law. it is never been used in this fashion. julian spent years in bill marsh. no one should spend a day in prison for giving the public news worthy and important information. in this case, information that the united states government had committed war crimes. underneath

that, there is an issue of, you know, how he changes for you. what do you have to do? how we have to bend disney if you like, to accept a criminal conviction. and this goes to the heart of the debate now. um, you know, uh, the united states will maintain that uh, judy and assign, just noticed as the 7 a criminal. this has huge impact on a journalism, on a global scale. the united states, of course, was the engine of the case against the julian assign, so it's understandable that amount with health problems with the young family who had spent you know, you know, almost 15 years, essentially imprisoned 7 years, the ecuadorian embassy, remember at, and then a bell marsh, while you security prison, anyone who knows anything about bell marsh or are security brew. this is a very green place, rapists and murderers and terrorist. it's a bit as secure a place you could put anybody have julia and such as a journalist with a gentle ok. so this did so the demand,

the brutality of the whole engine behind this one of his lawyers at outlining the reality of the deal on the impact that this deal will have going forward on, on global journalism for years. the us government has claimed that these publications do great harm to day in court of the united states. government admitted that there is not a single person anywhere that they can produce that was actually harmed buddies, publications, in order to win he's freedom, joanne pleaded. guilty to conspiracy to commit espionage for publishing. evidence of us will crime, human rights abuse, human rights, abusing us wrongdoing around the world. this is journalism. this is the criminalization of journalism. and while the plato does not set a traditional president, that's not a court decision. the prosecution itself, that's a president that can be used against the rest of the media for the process in a very dangerous place. it's not,

it's not evidence that it will move towards more protection, but rather less that would have been the, the only good outcome for the press in general. if, if the us government had to abandon this case is hardly nobody from the united states. a culpable in the crime is the wiki leaks expose the julian assign. she has dedicated his life to expose it. nobody has been charged with anything. you've got well over a 1000000 civilians dead in afghanistan, iraq, syria, libya, the, the list goes on and on and on. so the mind to expose the crimes is never criminal . the people carried out the crimes which he exposed are completely blame as it seems. so again, it's going to come back to the mechanism by which the max of taking their pound of flesh you feel like you most things you need to us your most accepted or criminal. and it's very difficult to see how anybody wouldn't have accepted this deal after such

a long time in solitary confinement. the most brutal conditions that he had to take the deal due to his health. but the big issue here is, what does this mean for global journalism? what does it mean for the pursuit of truth? meanwhile, interesting, and he had trouble with more than $44000.00 emails on the wiki. leaks website has mysteriously gone off line just hours after julia massage was released. now the files detailed hard leaving us democratic party figures. conspired to support hillary clinton over bernie sanders for the 2016 presidential nomination. r t correspondent kill up and in new york city, picks up the story. as julia sanchez, 14 year ruling, the legal battle reached its conclusion, we now see that thousands of hacked emails from the democratic national committee have been removed from the website. if you go to the website and try to look at them,

you'll see internal server error. that is the message that you will see. and these are emails that came from 2016 when wiki leeks revealed information, showing that the democratic national committee that leads the us democratic party was not acting and partially, and was actively working to make sure that bernie sanders did not get the nomination. and that hillary rodham clinton did get it, and wiki leeks was provided with 19000 emails as well as 8 attachments to show that . and they've all gone missing. in the immediate aftermath of julian hassan being released and the 14 year long legal battle coming to an app, now you'll recall that it was shortly after these emails originally were published by wiki, reeks that hillary clinton is reported to have discussed killing julian, a saw of the recall, why can't we just drone this guy?

clinton openly inquired, offering a simple remedy to silence a sound and some other week you weeks via a plan to military drone strike, according to state department sources. now there's quite a bit of outrage about these remarks in us media after all, she was calling for the extra judicial murder of a journalist. now hillary clinton denied that she made these statements and this happened as mainstream us media went into an overdrive saying that the packing of the emails had been akins, we received from russia. and the julian assigned was somehow a russian agent. let's recall the media hysteria back in 2016, in the mc with that they believed by the russians. communications were likely sees by a group of tied to the russian government and cyber security experts are blaming the hack attack on the intelligence agencies of russian president vladimir potent russian state. actors broke into the dnc, stall these emails. now,

no evidence was ever provided to prove that somehow russia was involved in the events or the julian assad was working for russia when he published. i'm uh, but these claims were repeated all across us. the media to feed what became known as the roster gate narrative that hung over the trunk presidency, much of which was completely and thoroughly debunk by evidence that continued to serve as throughout the trump administration. now, after a 14 year long grueling legal battle julian assigned, she was forced to plead guilty to one count of violating the espionage act. he is now selling in the united states, but he has been released to return home to australia. and many people around the world are looking at the case as a pretty blatant example of hypocrisy. when it comes to western leaders and their calls for transparency and human rights, and the protection of journalists and freedom of the press, etc. of the u. s. embassy in ukraine has confirmed the depth of

one of its stuff. first in key of the body of the all named diplomatic katasha was found in a hotel room on tuesday. the american embassy has not disclosed any additional details. i discussed the story with us investigative journalist, edward soul, who said the death raises many questions in regard to where they found the body. is it a thought the very, very small information. there was one piece of information that did release which started kind of ridiculous. they said the man had high cholesterol. i don't know about you, but i hope verified me that in the hotel room they don't say well and were just he just wasn't very healthy. i hope they do it on top so you have to do it of us because it's very peculiar on the, on the fact is whether edward but he actually just arrived about a week or so mid june. you know, if somebody is chronically ill on his health, i suppose in the jeopardy work where he could die. and it just raises so many

questions as to why he would be there for them. and i'll go down that route 1st of all. sure. one thing i found the hotel he was staying in specifically is known to have sound proofed rooms. now this could be nothing. okay, but there's this discussion of, there was no violence found on the body that was one of the apart from the uh, the statement put out officially by the state department. but it was also found that a sound proved room and there's no discussion about the cameras. hilton's made on notice. maybe you do. it's a very expensive hotel, very, very high class. they have cameras for each of the hallways. there is nothing about any visitors that they made very clear to not make talk about any kind of his actions before the night before the day after possibly this man. he died for natural causes because he was looking at the great mass that he was about to have to inherit is natasha chase and united states. so you're trained, i want to know more information about this stuff. but in regard to the corruption and the state of the relations been to us and ukraine, why would they put someone so unhealthy and awards?

ok that's, that's what, yeah. this, it's a, it's of course, um, what is you wanna put one of your best people? so maybe they don't have many good people that's, that's where some people might go in their, their logical analysis of us. well, that's where we leave the news runs off for now, but remember, you can have your say on any of the stories we've been rolling today over at the r t dot com, you'll find plenty more there to keep you informed on to entertain the the, what is part of the, the employee would post to isn't the, the place you of us in that, in the word? or is it something deeper,

more complex might be present good. let's stop without cases. let's go products. oh, what else? seemed wrong. just don't you have to save house after kids and engagement equals betrayals. when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look for common ground, the the hello, everybody on bins one in for rick sanchez is an image. many thought we'd never see join a song. she walks free the would you like found or striking a deal with us authorities bringing it in to an over 10 years long,

legal battle. but there has to be a catch. what is the motive behind this? unprecedented move by the white house. we're digging into all the details, this is direct impact of the again julian, as long as it is free, that is the headline today, the founder of which he leaves set to return to his home country while straw yet very soon following his release from a u. k prison on monday, a san show shot to world wide fame and 2010 is a ledge by the d. o. j to of orchestrated the biggest security breach in us military history. they say, with the aid of chelsea, mannings, and bradley manning these revelations lifted the bill on the us military, industrial complex, exposing more crimes and atrocities. investigators say that assigned his actions broke law as men to protect sensitive information and put the country's national security at risk. julia massage long maintained that he was a journalist,

simply publishing classified documents that he received from a source. nevertheless, he was charged by the us unprecedentedly, under the espionage jack sparking affairs, legal battle against extradition that now after 12 long years as finally come to an end. now as part of this proposed play deal, because yes, there is always a plea deal with the us justice department of funds will plead guilty to one felony for conspiring to unlawfully obtain and disseminate classified information related to us national defense, the deal grants and credit for time served for waiting trial and the case bell, march prison. that means that the psalms will avoid any further present time. now it is not signed, sealed and delivered just yet. a song still needs to appear in court wednesday in the northern body on the island. so what is the catch here, the most persecuted journalist in the world, and so deeply hated by us lawmakers and the intelligence community. and now they're done. we have a full lineup. joining the show today, we're joined by international correspondent and over jan senior research fellow at

the global policy institute of georgia that where we and c i a whistleblower and host of the whistle blowers drunk here. yeah, because guys thank you for being here john. let's start with you, your initial thoughts when you heard this news, as i mentioned, there has to be a catch here. there is a plea deal involved, but what were your thoughts with julia sanchez? finally, free. my initial thought was that it wasn't a shocking development. what the shocking development was that he was moving onward to the federal district court for the northern marietta islands of all things. of course that is the the federal district court that is nearest the territory of us trail. yeah. we know that there had been negotiations on going between the justice department and julian's lawyers for at least 6 months. and this really came down to a fee saving exercise. on the one hand,

julian said very adamantly that he would not be responsible for any future prosecution. ever journalist under the espionage that that was not going to be laid on him. and then at the same time, the justice department had to placate the c i a and the f. b i which were deemed to be the so called victims. in this case, they finally came to an agreement, i think honestly, because this is an election year. this is something that the white house wanted to just go away. and there was great pressure from the australian government. yeah, yeah. what ridiculous idea, george. that the c i a and the f b i are the victims of what of being exposed by wiki leaks are being exposed by julian assault. and truly what they say is you, you release those important classified information of them. committing crimes around the world. and yeah, the only person who is in trouble, of course, for 12 years has been, julia thought you would say you, is it exactly right. and of course, as we know it during the sun is

a publisher, and it says, oh if it's been axiomatic and 1st amendment and law, which is that the 1st amendment protects the publisher. i mean the, the one who supposedly steals the information. he is legally vulnerable, but the person who actually publishes it is however, protected by the 1st amendment. that's always been axiomatic. and it was unfortunate then in the case of assigned that this was a change and they went off to him and therefore obviously threatened the 1st amendment. i tend to think that it is to do with this upcoming election of being uh by then wanted to get this issue. and also the agenda is riley is some of his, um, radicals. so i'm not very happy with him. particular over his stance on the israel and gaza and is going to, you're going to keep, keep them happy. well,

he's done something for of the cause of journalism. it's taking away an issue from trump as well. trump go to use that and embrace those kind of a libertarian issue a, well, we need to release the julian aside. so that issue has been taken away from trumps . so i think it, those a, there's political calculation on the, by the ministrations. but yeah, a couple of interesting things that by the way that you know, you mentioned, of course, that in the past, the person who is the journalist who receives the still the information is never, is never prosecuted. that obviously changed their course. the argument that was made by the department of justice is that he was part of this by actually coaching . bradley many now chelsea many on how to do that. but manila want to bring up go to this point. everyone is bringing up about election year, washington dc. now trump had been on the cabin pain trail and he was saying on the campaign trail that he was going to pardon julian assad. janelle, all of a sudden this happens by the way he could still pardon him because there is a police here where he has to plead guilty to work. right. so then we have heard

from donald trump explicitly saying as of late that he would part angelina song, which like you said, he absolutely can do if he were to win another term in the white house. we've also heard from r f k junior as well saying on day one that he would give a sons' not only the pardon, but have all those charges dropped to begin with and they would ultimately be nothing to drop at that point. right. so i think, i think here in the belt way, joe biden is so wildly unpopular, losing major numbers within minority groups, left and right, losing major numbers with progressive and certainly independence and people that are somewhere in the middle. because of, as george saying, well, he said he has stance on gaza at his stance on ukraine has lost a lot of people in the middle. and i think this is a hail mary attempt to try to boost those numbers. i don't think the bite in administration has some fear in that they care about this journalist. well being

this man being persecuted, they don't care about the 1st amendment. they don't care about journalist writes, they don't care about that because they continue to pursue him. piggybacking right off of donald trump's, administration's campaign against him, a piggybacking on then brock obama's campaign against julia and started. so i don't think any of this is sincere, and i feel like we should be looking out for a catch. yeah, i agree with you and john, even to that point, look, trump goes around saying that he would consider it. pardon, julia, massage in your in the white house for 4 years. you didn't pardon them during that time you didn't do anything to help julian assault and, and, and by didn't obviously didn't care. and as the middle of rightly says, obama didn't care either. right. and so what we've seen is for years, administrations have not cared. and yet suddenly in this moment, now they say yeah, but we also get a win here in that you admit that you committed a crime right now. you don't have to serve any more time in prison, but you admit that you committed a crime and the truth is john. julie massage did not commit

a crime. he did not break the law and he's been persecuted all this time. having committed no crime or yeah, you're, you're getting it right on the head and i'm smiling because, you know, i've been in washington for 42 years then, and i'm, i think i'm savvy enough to understand the way the city works. and what we saw today was really vintage washington. on the one hand, it was donald trump's administration that charged julie and assigned in the 1st place. now donald trump is talking about parking julian, decides were he to be elected president again? but he can do that. he can get away with that because his position is that he was under pressure from the likes of mike pump, peo and mike pence to move forward with the charges against children aside this morning, early this morning, mike pence tweeted that this uh this deal with assigned was a travesty. that was his word. it was a travesty. and that assigned should have been extradited to the united states and,

and imprisoned for his so called crime against the national security. but then you look at the strongest statements of support that we saw today on twitter elsewhere in public and supported children. and so they were from, they were from the likes of, of tucker carlson of ran. paul, the republican senator from kentucky, a congressman, thomas massey, the libertarian republican, representative from kentucky. so. so those on the right and those on the progressive left are unanimous in their support for joe the defense. you're also right though, about the fact that joe biden doesn't care about joining assigned, just like brock obama didn't care about julius on. they could have done something about this case over the course of 12 years, and they never did. but it's an election year. and now it's not an issue anymore, it's gone away. so in this funny way,

everybody except video conservatives and then the liberals wins the conservative a populist right when they're happy. the progressive left with is they're happy, julian is free, he's happy. and the only people who don't like it are the likes of, of general clapper, and mike pence, and i think official washington can live with that. george. we're getting close to a break, but i wanna throw another question to you before we hit. we hit that, which is simply this in one minute. can you just tell me what do you think is the reason for this in terms of the political aspects? simply because of it, i don't see this moving anybody in terms of the political cycle, no votes are going to flow either way over julian assault and i wouldn't think so what is a deeper reason in washington that they might have done this? well, i think the may be a few votes, but it will be a very close selection. and in a very close election, a handful of votes could decide if and if there are libertarians who might be

persuaded to vote for biden. or there might be, uh, you know, some radicals within the democratic body who might actually show up to vote because of this. it could be decisive in the election. i mean, it's a, it's a, it's a tossup which way this is going to go. and it is likely to be decided by a handful of votes and a number of key battleground states. i think it's a very interesting idea when you have such a, a small group of people who would actually be affected by this. and again, do those people even believe the sincerity of either candidate who's talked about a science. but we'll talk about that more on the other side of this, right? because when we come back, we're diving deep into the epic saga of the united states versus julian assault from confinement to freedom. what is next for this controversial figure? we're gonna talk about it with our panel. don't go anywhere. we'll be right back. the

only 41 percent of you have to dial tab and i'm savings to cover a $1000.00 emergency. we have record numbers of american friends who are on the verge of having their cars repossess more than a 137000000 americans are facing financial hardship because of medical. then in america, we do have a welfare system in place to help people who are struggling financially, but it's a conditional system. you have to prove to the government that you truly need help . the simplest way to like explain the basic income is that is like social security . for the rest of us, a basic income would be a monthly payments that would go to everyone. just a $1000.00 a month. no strings attached use i have i would like the main i don't know. i just won't go crazy. the reason that i am a fan of guaranteed income because it is this idea that everybody is deserve. and that's just by virtue of your being here

the and welcome back on bins one in for rick sanchez. so let's take a deeper dive into the explosive revelations made by julianna's sondra and wiki leaks over the years. one of the most shocking videos came out of a rack in 2007. it showed iraqi journalist including to reuters stuff, gun down in cold blood by us attack helicopter. take a look at this showing footage they uncovered and the response, the followed by the shoot them off buddy. my god. we regret the loss of innocent life, but this incident was promptly investigated and there was never any attempt to cover up any aspect of this engagement. yeah,

it was videos like those that had an enormous impact on the public's perception of the war in the rack. but the work didn't stop there in 2010. we. he makes release documents detailing the us military's actions in afghanistan and the rack, exposing over a 100000 deaths. most of them civilian. and in 2011 the guantanamo bay files provided a critical look at the operations and decisions related to detainees at the us military base. those file shed light on multiple human rights, abusive sparking discussions about the closure of the detention camp and the legal rights of detainees. take a listen to one survivor as he details the kind of treatment he faced. i was sleep deprived, i was beaten till they broke my added, i was not given food for a very long periods of time. i was situated the salt and on multiple occasions seem to provision the 1st 70 days. mostly. there's absolutely no question that we can leaks, and julio saw and absolutely changed the world in terms of the kind of reporting

that they were doing. the many didn't want to even call them journalists. so let's bring back that panel now. been able to change or to them willie and john kerry, yahoo! and guys, listen. i got to tell you, you know, when you look at the impact of julia slash and wiki looks had, there is a reason that they were so hated and certainly so hated julian hassan himself by powerful people in this country. he embarrassed them essential mili aided them. so the question is, what happens when a lot to join the functionality think is going to lay low or does he go back and work it when he leaves them release more information as well? you know, you would hope that he continues his work. i would say he's the grandfather of alternative media and this kind of investigative journalism. and so many people in this industry have been inspired by his actions and his courageous fight against the chilling effect that the u. s government was trying to implement here against

the 1st amendment and journalism as an industry it as a whole. but you know, then after almost 15 years of effectively confinement for 15 years, i think he's got a lot of healing to do. and a lot of trauma to work through, including missing all this time with his children. his children are about the same age as my son. and i couldn't imagine being away from my children never being able to hold them for this long. so i think 1st and foremost, i hope he gets that moment he gets to be with his wife, gets to be with his children. how does them hold them, do some healing and then get right back to it and whole power to account. but i think the whole world would understand if he had to take a step back and take some time lick some wounds and get on with this difficult task of being the godfather of alternative media. yeah, i think i think you're right about that. and certainly, george, i took too many of those point. there is a certain level of brokenness. certainly. then i'm sure julia sanchez endured the.

the truth is that let's be honest. most of us, myself included. i thought the julia funds would die in prison. i thought they were going to kill him and they didn't even care if he ever saw a trial. they thought he was gonna just die in prison a waiting trial. and so he's able to emerge from that. what do you think happens with him? that's the issue, grieve with you. i also thought he would die in prison. i have to think that, you know, he's off the, he begins the physical and mental recovery. you know, he's somebody who is intellectually vigorous, he's intellectually curious. i would find it difficult to believe that he's just going to settle down to a quiet life, you know, just moving below on and populating around in the yard. i think he's going to get back into the work that he had done in the boss. so i think that he will be an important and influential figure. i mean, maybe not for about 12 months or so, but i think he will as much as a very major thinker and will be

a continually the influential and energetic proponents will alternative journalism . it'll be interesting to see how, depending on who wins the election, that impacts what he does. john, i gotta ask you a question here. listen, i love wiki leaks. i'm. i got nothing bad to say about him. i think they do amazing work and they've done amazing work for a long time. but can we be honest here? we can lease has not been we can weeks without julian hassan try without him. they've tried to continue through that same work, but it has not been the same. does julia, sons coming out of prison, make weekly leaks great again. i think it makes we give weeks greater again, you know, keep in mind though, so that we can weeks, it's not like you carry a membership card to be a member of wiki leaks and it's not just, you know, an organization based in iceland. it spread out all over the world. there are, there are people who are associated with wiki leaks in 2000 and countries around

the world. they have mirror servers all over the world, but you're right, they're not breaking stories like volt 7 today. they're, they're not breaking stories like the collateral murder video today. but i really believe that with julian free, even if julian is not necessarily directly involved in whatever forthcoming investigations happened, to take place that we came weeks will come back. also keep in mind that that wiki leeks has a great deal of money. now that money was intended, it was donated by people over. busy last several years that money was intended to be used to pay for julian's defense. that's no longer necessary. and frankly that's money that could be spent on investigations that i look forward to very much. absolutely. i think that's exactly right. but i also think and let me john, i'll stay with you for a 2nd, but i also think there is something else that's happening here too. which is that when you look at what's happened with wiki leaks, again, it's a different time,

201201120122014 right. video was different at the time the internet was a different place. i know that's hard to believe a 10 years ago, 14 years ago, the internet was vastly different than it is right now. social media was vastly different, but it is. so we'll have each one of you with this very quickly. but how does the change, and what does happen in just 12 years? in the time the julia font has been in prison jumpstart with you. how does that impact whether or not he has the same kind of impact, the ones that yeah, i think that that information is form or diffuse now. so it's not going to be sir. and around julia, such a strong of a personality as, as he is it just by its nature, your right internet has changed and by its nature it's, uh, it's going to be more diffuse. also, julian's going to be in australia, in australia is a 5 by country. the 5 bytes have an agreement that any citizen of those 5 countries, the us, the u. k. capital, australia, new zealand has been conducted of a felony, and it was spent more than 18 months in prison is not allowed to travel to any of those other countries. so julie,

it's going to have to do whatever works he intends to do from australia, and that's going to make it even harder to operate. yeah, i'll stray is not exactly a boston to freedom right now, but george, let me ask you. that's right. same thing. what do you, what are your thoughts on that? i mean, this is a different landscape. it's a different look. and certainly even the kinds of videos that were released at the time it's, it's just a different world. there was no instagram at this time at hard to believe i'm or and if it was, it was barely used. it's just a different space that he's coming back into. now, how does he just it absolutely is a different space. and there's also the issue that, you know, we, we need to talk about that the government has, in a way, succeeded in intimidating and terrorizing potential whistle blowers. and i mean that's, that was really the staple of wiki leaks. yeah. that people, you know, go ahead and read the information, would provide it to wiki leaks. but what they did to do this on to them before that

with the mining was really broke. i mean, it was a hit was been a for ripping what, what's been done through june and it's not that will be less. and so, you know, anyone who's got information to release them was the bosses and wiggly, you know, he's, is there anyone who is going to be able to bring any of these is going to think twice before. uh, you know, taking such a risk and you know, you were thinking about, well, why would want this kind of fate for myself? so i think that's a problem that the, which of these will have to address, and that's such a great point. 14 years is the span of time between brock obama becoming president . and today, one of the guy sitting on this panel right now was one of those who has been charged as a whistleblower right. during that period of time, there was an interesting fact, a lot of people middle of may not know which is that during his term as president brock obama, persecuted and prosecuted,

more whistle blowers than every other presidential administration combined. so to george's point, there is a and attempted showing the fact to wipe out whistle blowers to silence them and to create fear. maybe it's part of the reason that we can't mix wasn't a strong without assault, wasn't just the fundamental or maybe it was also the fact that they intimidated, harassed and prosecuted every whistle blower they could find and completely ignored was the lower protections. absolutely. then that chilling effect i would say, took place years ago, as you said, 1213 years go, nobody imagined instagram or tick tock, or all of these things in the world has changed. the landscape has changed since julian was 1st hold up in the ecuadorian embassy, but at the same time, this industry has changed vastly. that chilling effect took place years ago, the media landscape has changed entirely where everybody at this point in mainstream media is there to effectively serve the government,

serve the united states, parrot the talking points of the state department and, and move along and advance all the lines of whatever it is the us and we can call it the deep state are trying to achieve whatever those goals may be. this is where the, the place is of us mainstream media these days. and i would say the release of julian assigned, i would say, could be the trying the trial, but come back, i hope of real journalism. so that's the best we can hope for. once he does some healing, then about 30 seconds left. we can talk about whistle blowers without talking to the whistleblower. john, give you the final word and all of this. but i think this is a really wonderful development, but i'd like to leave our, our viewers with this note. this fight is not only, not over. it is just beginning. as you said, ben brock obama was responsible for prosecuting 3 times as many national security

whistle blowers as all previous presidents combine. the espionage act in the united states does not allow for an affirmative defense. you can't go in to court and say, why you did what you did. and national security was, a blowers are not protected by the whistle blower protection act. so this fight is really and the fight just begins john kerry miller chance joyce and wiley. thank you all so much. that is our show. i'm been swan and we will see you next time covering stories that have a direct impact. the i look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people.

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