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establishment less party is leaders only commit also said earlier this week, the maximum is quote, always there to set things on fire here in france. so each of these advised stablish parties on the right and the left have very drastically different agendas from each other. the one thing that both the tie, stablish me right and left parties do have in common is their focus on friends. our goal is to market clear break from a manual microns policies to address people's immediate needs and set our country on a vitally important environmental path. if anything was in c max, hold there. now realizing that there's a real disconnect between the leads, running the country on one hand and the everyday realities of the people that they're supposed to be serving on the other. so what we're starting to see now is some of these folks self serving we scrambling for life graphs, for instance, here is his interior minister duty to fix this issue. the lease has the seated, the people who, who no longer live among the people for me, i don't need a survey or an excel table to see the difficulties of the people there. can you
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hear me far back home? prime minister, a la city projected out of the prime minister's job during the cubic price. as in july of 2020 didn't minutes words about where he figures the responsibility lies. it please don't have to because he was the president of the republic who killed the presidential majority. he dissolved at one point that established was supporters routinely bring up is how one of the anti establishment parties govern without any natural allies. as this power hasn't always attracted gold, the opportunity, i still think there will be a problem there. seems that the bigger question though, is how many mac co allies will even be less on the team. after all, the dust settles on the selection that could very well end up going down in history as an entirely avoidable unforced error of his own, making. the same as are to international f next on cross plots. peter lavelle and his guests discuss president biden's is really wars. i think the
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the we are in a rush or southern regional on where the mighty boulder flows into the caspian sea, forming of the largest as to where in continental europe, which means it's a great place to learn about the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross talk we're all things are considered. i'm theater. lavelle, jo biden's,
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whitehouse continues to insist it has little leverage over the israeli government to bring a halt to the fighting and gaza, or living on this is obviously an absurd claim. at the same time, it appears to us has resigned to a wider conflict that includes webinar and beyond the cross talking power site. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal and media analyst. also in new york, we have stanley cohen, he is a human rights lawyer and in rome, we cross the romano roberto. she is an author and managing editor of the palestine chronicle right across cycles. in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate stanley if i go to you 1st in new york, i'm, i'm really getting very, very sick and tired of these claims that the white house has no leverage over is real. you know, we're supposed to resign ourselves to a genocide that we can all watch in real time. i find that pathetic and i find it
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criminally liable. but also we have a us official them that have the kicker. is really citizenship by the way, me going to lebanon saying, well, if the israelis go to work with has blah will be on the side of the israel, is why was he there? where was the diplomacy? why do we have to resign ourselves to just more bloodshed in a wider war with a one telephone call from the white house could change all of that? go ahead stanley. well, it's called the election. it's called uh, a package for the a, b, l. it's all at this point 5, you could care less about the morality principle, international law about work crime. she wants to wait. he's waited long enough and he's made a decision that is more important. port a past and it's more important. port designers wing of the democratic party and the independent party. then he is concerned about losing the young women and men who are in the streets or rightly so saying, genocide, genocide, genocide,
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and you're absolutely correct. one phone call. the sense because under the arms export controller, which is real, there's been clearly in violation of for generations now. he fits up a phone, he says that's the end of it. you're not in compliance with the act of congress put ended as well because they are the only person who can weigh in on the arms export control act. judiciary has said it's a separation of powers issue. so biden, as he's done through his entire career, has made a political calculus. how do i get more involved? so what do i have to worry about, in this case? the slaughter of bowman yesterday of, of, of the, of the, the electoral, of the a pack ownership. really friends, if i can watch when he knows he can't shut down. here's wheels for a while. we tried to walk outside rope where he, for every dollar he gave, he made a terry navy. it tends to kill people and to destroy it community. so this is all about the election as it is with nothing yahoo affairs,
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3 trials that are waiting for him to put them in prison. well, you know, yeah, a sense violent is already been mentioned. i was going to do that in the 2nd half of the program, but i'll throw it to line. all right now. well, i know you're on the program quite a bit. we went through the forest called rush a gates, you know, works. a russian meddling in the american elections. stanley just brought up the most glaring meddling and american elections all out in the open here. i mean, every cent with that was spent. i mean, this is, you know, a foreign government israel, through its conduits in the united states and its satellites there in the us determining outcomes politically. i mean, this is just outright meddling, but no one will call it that line. oh, well, aside from that, you know, was really interesting, is that and, and i have been doing a radio did talk radio for, for 35 years. and the word a pack or is real. the lobby was 3rd rail. kryptonite. you just,
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it was like the n word, this was the a word. and you're yet yesterday, for coverage thing. a pack back, the bowman loses and the now the own. and just like there was this transition. so i don't know if that's deliberate. if people have finally a wage and but you're absolutely correct. how can you claim, how can anybody claim that external extra duty shall extra governmental influence on our sovereignty is okay. and very uh, finally, how does anybody speak to secure the position of power with their voters? by saying, i tend to do what do you think about this? what is there a gun that you don't understand? i can't control where your money goes all by the way. vote for me. yeah. much better or amanda, this is the of america's democracy is at stake. that's what everybody says here, but they, they miss the point here. i mean, it seems that both major parties,
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they will curry favor with donors and not with voters, certainly not with what's right. okay. it's all about money and how much you can get to run your elections here. that is probably the most pathetic soft power message america is sending the world right now. go ahead in room. yes, i think i'm all of the various things that garza is exposing to the word there. we have this concept of liberal democracy as a whole. and we see that these as structured crisis, it's notes and contingent prices for, for, and meaning that these lobbies are so powerful that they can actually be a superior interest. and then people in the treat, solve charging for sure. we don't have a representative democracy, democracy, but we have its best and we good key and not a democracy,
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but i think that's yes. what can seem completely irrational here a abc russian or the up to a certain point? yes, for sure. uh, the united states is treating as well as an intern of from not as a foreign policy. so, and it is doing so also because each task of your motive for the united states, it is essential, especially following the people to asia. and so the fact that they actually next to me that if you do the essentially step essential for them, that is what maintains each determines the ease, what maintains its military. so to really, to give you a review over the region, i think that the united states wanted is, were to win and wanted is what to win fast. you just lucky in the interests of course, the confident that spends but they cannot afford to be as well not restore the determined bedroom. and that may, but the problem with maintaining or re recapturing deterrence,
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for israel's and it might cost the 3rd world war that is certainly not in the interest of anybody, including the united states. now that a package written written brought up stanley, can you explain something to me that i've never really understood? we hear all of this investigations about how much a pack a gets involved in elections, who they have bought the of minders and congress of were all we know is really as americans were, all the same were interchangeable, is really sees the american flag. well, why am i spending so much money and so much effort, and so much intimidation on something that should be obvious that were the same. but apparently we're not because they have to keep pressuring people to convince everyone that we're. busy all the same, i don't have to share those values. i don't believe in genocide. i believe in bringing people to account. i mean, it's counter intuitive. i mean, you wouldn't need a pack if we would really actually shared these values. stanley, well, you know, the 400 thousands of the registration acts fire,
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which was designed years ago, to force microphone for foreign governments to register to put the country on. notice that i am working for is real. i am working for a country x. i am working for country wide, which has rigid rules in terms of what you can do. how would, why was pastor, should have been past with this real and it's not. we know that fara has been applied when it comes to lobbyist and folks that have supported brush over the years. we know that fara has been flag when it comes to people with a charge, with the fences. they're speaking or working on behalf of a rock. when it comes to israel, it comes ultimately down to, you know, truman said 48 when he initially was opposed to the photo, quote, the establishment, the state, it is real. truman said eventually i'm not interested. i don't think it's a good idea. but after discussion, she made some comments which remain true today. palestinians don't have money and they don't vote. use of america have money and they do,
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but look at allison's white. late allison gave hundreds of millions of dollars to the israel forever. has been sitting on the fence because she supported the opponents initially against the trump. and the last few days you said i'm giving you 100000000 dollars that you what you want with it just makes your use real, has no headaches, as no problem. rooms come in as much genocide as possible. so you have, this is the push of the where on the one hand you have laws, you have actual procedures. you have limits that in theory or pass to level the playing field to try to keep foreign governments outside of controlling domestic policies in politics, in the united states, you have the arms export control act. you have the, you have the allow react up. you have all these laws that have been passed to maintain theory, that democratic integrity and i be able to be that states which when it comes to israel, politicians point it comes to israel. they have north. yeah. but you just barely got money yet. but so if i go to this, the line will be, you didn't spend,
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we just said, you know, here's all the money, a mixer. israel doesn't have any headaches, but it actually creates a huge headache for, for the united states. and it standing in the world in a far worse than a headache for the people of gaza. lionel, you know the well, that's a great point and i was gonna say tell them before i forget, have you noticed that of course we have to thank god for digital streaming platforms and or alternate citizen and civilian and alternative of news, which basically have they have transformed the subject matter, but now people are starting to pay attention as to what's being said, because all i tell my friends is pay attention. recently. there was a statement by, i believe it is rarely official whose name escapes me. who said something like, you don't, you really can't stop how much you really can't it's, it's like an idea and that, that well, well, well, well wait a minute hold. that was the $1000000.00 statement because the,
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the argument is that we do this money in order to stop this. we will not stop until they are crush. if you have somebody who just eliminates that is a possibility that defeats the entire series. yet it's now percolating through and it's permanent, it's breaking the blood brain barrier. in these debates, people are saying this is a lot like terrorism business. this is like when we were going after people around the world because they embodied some kind of ideology and they really weren't actually a corporate real threat. and people are getting it. and that's why somebody had some bored, they've got about a 130 something days until the election. they've got the for the to stall, the american electorate, because people are figuring out right now and narrative doesn't make any sense. and the way you have a better deal, but pray and couple of people do face consequences if you don't go along with the narrative, you know, long before this happened, we had a academics all across the western world have lost their positions because they were contrary. and, and now it's the case of death that mean you have to,
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you have to get in line it this, this is a liberal liberalism is really, really damaging folks. i have to jump in here. we're going to go to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine state without the a hi, i'm rick sanchez and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. search like why watch something that's so different opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please do the have the state department to see i a weapons bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead, change and whatever you do. don't want my show stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, it's not. we don't want to watch it because it might just change the way and
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the water is part of the. the employee would post isn't the defense you of us and that in the word part, is it something deep but more complex might be present? good. let's stop without cases. let's go out of of the local next across the top where all things are considered on peter the bill to remind you were discussing palestine. the ok, let's go back to our guest in room. remember one of the things i find very disturbing . well, all of us are watching the events on folding real time on the lebanese border on
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the west bank and gaza. well, i'm watching main stream media. they're kind of normalizing genocide. it's like, well this is what's going on again in, in gaza. and of course, the, you know, using the passive voice and all that they're just normalizing of. that's part of our everyday experience here. with the reason why i bring it up because they didn't rages people like us even more because, you know, you, we point out this, this is a no charge of stand with genocide actually is you, we see these pictures here and you're not going to do anything about it, that is one of the most alienating experiences and feelings i've ever had in my life. go ahead and room. yes, absolutely. and the, this from immediate point of view and from it pretty easy code point of view. let's think what happened with rough, uh, and the rough operation. we have us of fee, so going every single day on television. say, no, we don't want israel to carry out
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a major operation in rough east where it doesn't have to cross the red line. then we saw it and literally babies burned alive in the 10s. and um, as we saw the cafeteria babies and we saw a major going on television and thank yes true, it is very sad because it is very disturbing. we are inquiring what we do not think is, was cross the red line. we would like to ask them, what was these red line? but visa has happened, you know, so many times with each work in the united states. let's think of what happens with all the seas fighter discussions on may. 31st, biden says, or penalty o e 's was presented a ceasefire proposal, and then it was fed up for a few hours, or this is a surprise for us. and the united states were willing to go ahead and give you the top part and not an honest piece broke here as we are used to here. so literally, we are used to the i think the words keep talking to end up with standards.
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literally not enough to describe what is happening now even in terms of how they present the genocide, a city you know, stanley that there's uh, i think it was in hot out. there was a, a letter assigned by a prominent is really officials asking the us congress to resend disinvite benjamin netanyahu to speak to a joint session. and, you know, nothing that, you know, he's policies may be popular among who is really citizens, but he isn't okay. and they point out and these people are, most of them are pretty hard liners too. rather than me. i have to make sure that's clear. but you know, this is not the message they think israel should be sending the, he's not the right messenger for the world. right now for us to make israel's case . so all, all people in washington are talking about is how many standing ovations this man is going to get this is this a so real stanley? everyone gets to use as a parents to their own. and it's a political jester, it's a political presence, it's
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a political gift. you will get up there. he will speed on one hand, he will find those. so literal leaders, those political players, those entities that are supporting israel, right, to be just peace and safety. while they murder a 100000 people and civilians lively women and children. and on the other hand, he will then say, and here's this man by keeps threatening us. and it keeps telling us he's gonna, he's gonna roll back to weapons. is, is going to impose be a pac sanctions. it's the biggest political show in town. it will serve the purpose of joe, by a whole time that by we turn around and say, i disagree and he shouldn't be involving himself the whole time. the bible says i'm writing them then they're not. they're continuing to pour money into it. you know, just giving you the reference to genocide. people have argued for years that genocide is built to find him lots of lots. well, this genocide statute has nothing to do with the amount of damage. yeah, so i didn't spent, what does the incentive stomach show for years is real and is really supportive
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said there's more palestinians than ever show us the box. and now that you've got the bodies, they turned around and said, it's a proportionality test. well, the original proportionality test and whatever happens and october 7th, as absolutely nothing to do with the results of genocide that are playing to say with the i c, c. and the i c j with report to go after anyone else doesn't that doesn't have the political power that israel does blinks and triple play stuff. or maybe we'll get to a warranty issue. or maybe we'll move to intervene. and biden turns around and he makes a speech. it'll be interesting tonight for him to raise the, the american effort, his effort to try to rain in the end, the genocide, while he's writing a check daily, which keeps it going. the red line has become a period of dots that doesn't matter what you want to call it. when you've got every day, thousands of women and children and civilians, better displays that are targeted better as athens that murdered by and can say, well they will. i'm opposed to this. meanwhile,
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these winking is fueling the system. and here comes as you started out this, this particular segment. and here comes nothing yahoo the good standing ovations for what for american dollars to slaughter women, to slaughter children, to displace millions to destroy. and as you pointed out, to create a norm as form for the american body politic when it comes to the vision of the world, because we see what's going on in the middle east, we see what's going on elsewhere. and while everyone is apparently focused on all what's, who's meeting with whom, where and when the bombing continues, the funding continues, the difference continues and it's all at this point. how do i get more votes? and that's what you're going to see tonight. yeah, but a lot like, oh, i know, i can't see how a bite and wins at all. he pays painted himself into such a corner. and i saw, i think you saw the image when that he was that are fundraiser with a brock obama and brock obama had to leave the past the stage. i was wondering if that's a matter for it's time for you to go. jo, you've served your purpose,
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go ahead. and brock obama, by the way, who was the verbally and theoretically man handled by mister netanyahu during his visit. let me explain another aspect to wait, which, which is so interesting. you know, peter not, you will not have talked about how i am side eating passionately with people who before i guess i told her i just spies. i just there were a massive me to me know here's something very interesting. freespace and expression are, it is under attack all over the world. very, very briefly, we had this thing on january 6 where people decided to ard to, to riot in washington. okay. fine. and they were charged with the dish, just conspiracy, and rebellious and instruction because they all conspired to interrupt a governmental process and they were put under the jail and these then these star chambers, okay, fine. when mister netanyahu arrived, you're going to see protests as well. many of them manned by and led by people who
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are called the left, the left who didn't care about january 6th, who didn't care about it because it applied to donald trump neck, how they're going to be reaching out to their brother's across the aisle and say wait a minute, you know something about this. is this the dishes conspiracy? no, this is a corruption and the collapse of free speech all over the world where you have to pledge field, teach why? the allergy. and if you were to ever interrupt this, this, the spot, you are crushed criminally. there is nothing. i've never seen anything as boyton does this in my life, either as a lawyer or a complicated around the. it's really i think that we've talked about this before. but it zionism is an ideology, is corrupting all of the west with all of these acts that we're seeing right now. and you know, there people like joe biden, you know, who, it's difficult to know what he knows these days. but you know, when he says i am as i in this,
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i wonder what he know what he thinks when he says that. ok, because it has a certain meaning to me and it's about any quality, bigotry, etc, etc. but for him, it just is real. and that's really damaging, go ahead and room. we have to be to, to be clear as joe biden has, or with said, you don't have to be induced to be as honest and i am resign. if this is a line that she likes very much, she has repeated that like so many times over the last decades we can say, since she was very young and you are absolutely right. zine, everything is permeating every aspect and even europe, even in any uh here, there are, for example, we impose 10 kids, i think kids because they're very young in their early twenties. and they were detained because they were supposedly sharing resistance propaganda material. nobody is talking about that, but this is basically,
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they are doing so in the name of the is really and the see you need any not to speak about germany today. the news was that a germany, we have an east what lawyer to test to grant the seek of and ship the trim and see doesn't ship to the people we are really, you know, crossing every possible line. of course, like as i said before, the bread democracy wasn't me, that has already been dismantled. i am speaking from bro now and actually i cannot access russia today. i cannot access r t and there has been a wide spread censorship over the last the years at months and years. so yes, there is zionism as a concept as the superiority in a sense of the west. and they don't want to let it go. yeah, stanley, you know, and questioning the israel of the, in the way of things are going now. we'll probably see a war against has belie 11,
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which nobody knows how that can turn out. it could be a huge regional war. the united states has already pledged, how do you, well, kind of countries that it's in advance, you know, we're going to back these guys. okay. but we are here to a to my, to rate that is a to so absurd. here we're looking at a, a regional war and it would be very serious if it happened. stanley, well, you know, it's interesting when you, a few moments ago you referred to, to, to, by the saying these designers, the proud signs, but he's for justice. it reminds me of decades ago when, when biting settings of civil rights act, because when he tired of legislation that ended up sending millions of people who go to prison for non violent defense. so they're just double standard pursuits between do not as i do, but just follow what i've said to get back to your, your question about his blow at this point of the world is generating support that's not been seen before and it's appropriate and necessary. so let me see if i understand this, as well as elected as
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a community in the community. we're not talking about 7000 miles away. we're talking about place letter now that has been invaded and multiple occasions. we're talking about the homeless officer dealer. we're talking about the occupation by israel's, we're talking about the use of phosphorus, weapons and cluster bombs in violation of international law. we're talking about is really torture chambers in the south of 11 on which we're talking about israel, which is bombing syria, which is bombing 11 on. so let me see if i understand this, please provide you with the united states are funding genocide on the ground in palestine. you in the united states are every day supporting is really a taps on syria and lebanon on and elsewhere. and for those countries on the ground in the region, forget about for the positions the whole, these, the principal position saying we're not going to be silent neighbors. so the neighbors o r c, i mean i'm a provider, i'm afraid i have to, i have to jump in here, we run out of time. we're happy to heart break here. i want to take my guess in new york and in rome. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time and remember prospect rolls,
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the 41 percent of you as adults have enough savings to cover a 1000 dollar emergency. if we have record numbers of americans who are on the verge of having their cars repossess more than a 137000000 americans are facing financial hardship because of medical then in america, we do have a welfare system in place to help people who are struggling financially, but it's a conditional system you have to prove to the government that you truly need help. the simplest way, like explain the basic income, is that it's like social security for the rest of us. a basic income would be a monthly payments that would go to everyone. just a $1000.00 a month, no strings attached as a user here, but i would like them maybe. i don't know. i just won't go crazy. the reason that i am
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