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tv   Cross Talk  RT  June 30, 2024 10:00pm-10:31pm EDT

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the, the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to the prospect bullhorn time peter a little. here we discuss some real news. the american presidential debates, demonstrated job, i'm is unfit to continue in office. the question arises and as to who is in charge of 2 major military conflicts. also will elections in france and the u. k. change the course of neo liberalism to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess towards samuel way in budapest, he is a pod cast throughout the goal, which can be found on youtube and locals in america. yes, we have martin j e as an award winning journalist and commentator, gentleman cross type rules and effects,
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that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. right, let's kick it off with george in budapest. i don't want to rehash the debate here. i think everybody's seen it didn't had commentary about it. but in to a fundamental things that are close to both of us here, all 3 of us here in our audiences. and number one, george, about 11 minutes was devoted to foreign policy considering the times that's very little. they basically agreed. but it's something that you and i talked about later . course running american foreign policy who is behind these 2 major military complex, that they could only escalate the, considering the administration. this is really worried me is a who's in charge george. it was a very good question for you. just because the shows is the, nobody's able to explain of who is indeed making the decisions. and the fact is that the united states is now very actively involved in 2 very serious conflicts,
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both of which could easily escalate into major uh, global wars. and ways we saw this man, the man who was active, but in this debate, and this was quite shocking that this is the person who's making the fundamental decisions, you know, and all the things that we have talked about, you know, week of the week about the the escalations in ukraine, the dangers that way, you know, we were getting step by step into, into a very real conversational the nuclear superpower. and this is the man who was making these decisions. and the reading was, you know, quite sure. okay, because he wouldn't be want to say that if america was like in the 1990 is one that didn't seem to be any problem at all that anyone needed to worry about. but now there's a great deal to worry about. and so, you know, the issue isn't just simply well, well, by him if he's re elect to get to complete his tongue. but what's gonna happen over the next 5 months?
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i mean, where, you know, until january, i mean, is this man really competent to make fundamental decisions? i mean, we really get, you know, what we were talking couple weeks ago about, oh, he's signed off on the ukraine using america and miss silas on russian territory. so that's fine, but that's the man who, who made that decision because that decision, which we shocked all of us. that was the man who made that decision. well, who was it? who, who made that decision? was it, was it his wife jail? was it the sullivan to, you know, we, we really need to know because he's a big, big decisions are being made. we want to know who actually made those decisions. well, also charge it does is by does, might have the capacity to understand that he made that decision or the teeth i get, or words just being put into his mouth. and this is very serious or you know, more than, i mean he again, you know, looking at these 2 complex, you create and then israel palestine. this would only in bold and someone like
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benjamin netanyahu to this kind of traits is way into american domestic and foreign policy. and of course, if you're the russians watching that you're thinking of who is in charge, who's going to make the decision? who do we need to talk to? melissa, this is a sent a chill down. everyone's fine, because in the event i've titled this program of the west drift and that's what it looks like, martin. yeah, but i think what i've been thinking about some months seems to seems to be ringing true. i've always said that i thought the trunk was going to head towards a big victory. how come not being, don't know off to that performance, but bite. and when you look at a guy who is rapidly losing his sense of, of reality and he operates awesome days between rents have elusive to detached, is kind of the on off switch. what we see on the public stage on the time of the following day, is our campaign, right? excuse me, you seem to be more lucid. but you know,
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if you're missing yahoo or your boost and you're looking at this guy and you're thinking if this guy is gonna stop, if he really is gonna make it to november the 5th. so i think this is, and we're looking at a lot of slides from trump. i called him mentioned a lot of democrat them folks is wanting to buy it from a lot of them i think which is not the fluids. and i think the, i type i put a guilt edge around the furnaces by simply watching the scene analysis on the night . they will do all of these democrats and circled on screen, you know, experts upon this. and all of them said, this is just too much just to pat the guy's going to be replaced. and after the democrats on cnn a saying that, but the problem with that, i think nominally speaking you're absolutely right. but george, these 2 wars, a decent biden's wars is administrations wars and they don't want anyone to interrupt what they're doing, whoever is making the decision. so the possibility of the greater possibility of
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the donald trump could come back into power. which mean we really don't know, we didn't, they didn't talk enough about foreign policy. trump is smart enough to basically stay away from it. but there are these people in power. they don't want to be interrupted here. i mean, you know this, this, this pest called bite and shouldn't get in the way. the reason why i'm saying that george is that it doesn't matter what voters think, it's about who has power, thinks then that's what makes this very dangerous. george? well, i think it is the end of the so long way to go before the election. and one can see all sorts of the best steps that can be taken to either to do something about trunk or to make sure the trump stays in line. so we, we know that in the end of about a week or so, the trunk will be in a courtroom in new york for sentencing is now being convicted of $34.00
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a felon is. and, you know, he'll be facing a judge who's very, who's a democrat, very, very on sympathetic control. it's not totally impossible that he will impose a presence in person in charge of what do you, how more likely is it now? do you think? well, i think it is more like the sends him straight to riker's island and you know, he wouldn't be doing anything wrong. is that, you know, he's been convicted to study for felony going. so that's, that's what happens. you know, you send the person on the straight talk to right this island. so that's a possibility. you know, you might go easy on them and say, okay, um, well i'll, i'll keep you in uh, in, in detention in your home. and you're not allowed to travel, or if you want to travel anywhere, you have to ask my permission or the commission of your probation office x. so that's still a, a possibility. if we also know that the, if they didn't work out with the, the democrats,
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if things that work out in the house elections, and the democrats are the ones who are going to be deciding whether to certify a trump victory. they've already made clear. we will never certify a trump richard, so that's a, that's a we will never do it. you know, we'll say he's an insurrection and we will never do it. so i think there's, oh, there's a lot of things that can still happen to prevent. and i mean, we said nothing. and the other thing is we, yeah, i mean that's the no, because is the, you know, i mean if, if people are going to bully, you know, all these criminal charges, all the civil suits and everything. they're not just gonna go away and say, okay, well that's the thing we can do. so i give us the president trump, uh, they're not gonna do that, but they gonna still see it as of keep them up. but, but let's, let's stay on course here. martin this again this, it adds to my concern is that in george just gave a few possibilities or a lot more out there. unfortunately, none of them very good. none of them very democratic by the way. but martin,
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if we see the, even the potential of a it trump victory, or it's put in another way of the lack of abiding victory. i know that sounds kind of strange because you could have the lack of, of buying victory and trump is in jail. so it even is more confusing near what worries me is it people in the state department, the c, i a, the defense department, say we gotta speed up our timelines here. we have to continue to push our agenda because we don't know if we're going to be doing this in a few months time accelerating and that will create some more risk. go ahead, mark. if the scenario is george's on the line all seem to point to chaos on november, the 5th, november the 5th. you lots and set yourself in a similar question with a trunk full witness. whether the establishment will allow him to win. but aligned that she acknowledged those dates in those states to also jo, this question i think is pretty clear now from the debates. i'm from on the video
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footage. the to buy to is wanting america. i think i think she is playing much, much more on the role. so we gave her credit for and you know, a but it doesn't have choices. i mean, as a general is i can say immediately when you do that to pay it within seconds, i can see this guy. there's not a media advisor does not have an extra list of 30 years experience. normally, who is advising a media, takes them into the tv studio, does the practice run? doesn't the questions and gets his image has missed? what doesn't have to be there by so he doesn't meet advisor. i mean, many of the other advisors he doesn't have. i think jim is filling in on oh well i mean martin, i think that i think it's pretty well clear that he was given a lot of prep it just that if you have that, the lack of mental acuity you day, all the practice and prep tools and get to help you with all. yeah, but i think i actually think so i'm of to work in television news for most of my life. i think. so what he was doing was he was being read a script through his a opinions and like i'm telling you that is physically impossible for any to be
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present. that's a repeat of that by some of the sound space. i know, i know it's on the it's virtually impossible to you know, the best, you know, george. so i, i think the martin is on to something here, but it seems to be in united, discussed is i, i get in my bones. i feel this was pre meditated, you know, who, if he really wants to run, let him, you know, stand his own to feed and give it a shot. he failed, interestingly enough, because it's, this was an obama project to these obama. so i'm very proud of. he's continuing to back him, but i think that you have everything behind the scenes when it comes to policy that apparently joe biden isn't really involved. and that's what's an issue here. and we don't know who the decision makers are. no, we really don't. and it was surprising that you had this debate because when we talked about this many times, um uh, you know, when we were discussing the election, we were convinced that that would be no debates. because in the bible say what i'm
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under a debate, answer extradition, or you know, you try one of the one and that said, you know, you the, i'm not, i'm not going to do it. um and that would have been obviously the sensible thing for him to do because we booked all the media type solely. joe scarborough was a and the rest of them was same item, the so sharpie, so a to do so on the ball. the understands the menu so well as the young man, you know, i'm, we know this because we talked to him in private then you know what it is and is i think so now i think dollars, i mean taking this step come and say, hey, you've been lying to as you've been selling us a bill of goods all this time. so it does now become a little bit difficult. however, the media a so in the tank with the buying. and then once they realize that he's not going anywhere, you know, obama said he's saying that's i, george, you know, i agree. i think we meet with. i think you've already talked about it uh, 4872 hours to get us figure out what they're going to do. one last thing gentlemen,
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before we go to the break, remember there is the democratic convention, could be a lot of fireworks there to are a gentleman and to jump in here, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on somebody on this day with our to the so that know of to point out to the student that showed us. cuz a couple of people don't leave for those long as we sort of loose. and for some reason that
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we're going to know what else about the future just start off with mature strategy. boom. does it deal to deal with? know if that was on the was the
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the, the man this will send me the welcome act across that both orange and peter will about here we're discussing some real news. all right, let's talk about the a, the election that just started in france here in a few days. so will be the election in the u. k. mart. why didn't the chrome pull up called in election because, you know, when i think about this guy in high politics coming from nowhere. now in b,
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b is put into the presidential palace. this guy, his learned nothing about politics whatsoever. this guy is erratic and by being told people on the grounds, that if they, as they go through this election cycle here, if his party is wall up, there's going to be pressure on him to resign. and we, and getting rid of a french president is virtually impossible. martin is the same possible, but i think we will see some new policies. and so we'll see a new landscape and from so when the defense policy windsor lens language is what this. but it's a big thing, and the role is mac wrong would be very much as a, as a ceremony, as president, you know, like the german presidents, what will be done in person to he, you'll just be required to turn up. are you still have some pals on the phone policy, of course, but you know, he's made a huge mistake and he's made the same mistake. the rash you select made, which he's not. if you call that's not election very quickly. then in theory, you really more support from your own side,
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from your own floating versus that might we thinking of leaving you, you know, they, apparently they quickly, you know, get focused and stay with you and that's completely wrong. let me know that. so really, so that is made just mistake. nichols made the same state you 5 is pushed a lot of people to was, depends upon and we are witnessing something pretty amazing. i mean, i've been saying to you for a long time. but the other thing elections, which i'm going to, i'm press the number of m e p as far away, i mean, please enter your pin palm, it will change the demographics and the functionality of the open union. but in addition to the far right groups across europe, office groups which are gonna take more power, all gonna change completed landscape. i'm entirely how the you are paying union functions. so you're going to have a new relationship now whereby the pen does as the leader of this policy and possibly even the president i would imagine into this time. what she will do is she will basically blackmail your opinion and do what britain couldn't do, which is the site. we don't have
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a whole lot of new rules and exemptions for phones. i don't know. i mean, you know, literally when realism is far more resilient than the internet, i should, i mean this, this young guy, jordan bar della george, where you, what are your thoughts on i, i did a little bit of research on that guy. pretty amazing story out of nowhere and he's 28 years old and he's technically head of the party. so i, i think so, and i, and i don't know really where the look at and spotty will actually get that 51 percent of the, um, uh the, the representatives in the, and the actual assembly at us forcing my crown to name by the law as prime minister, because it could be that the national riley will get a plurality, which case micro can stop playing all sorts of games. so who, who will select this up as prime minister? because you know, it's, it's, it's very complicated. they, they have us to around the system. so we already don't know, you know,
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of to what happens during the 1st round. what happens then off the, in the, in the 2nd round people. so we'll start switching the phones. so i, you know, i know those are they will get that, that 51 percent. well, so the national riley, i'm gonna look look pens. this kind of watered down all of the positions. all of that. yeah. that, that for osha's anti establishment of abuse that a father obviously had the she had for some, for some time. i mean, you know, the stuff about, you know, the fresh said, you know, from leaving the you, i mean the prompts leaving the, your friends even leaving the nato integrated electric along. i mean a with on ukraine, just kind of been all over the place. the no charge is just the getting the maloney is ation of the of the bar. right? exactly. i think it is. so here, then you gradually become acceptable. as i said, yeah, i'm for sanctions against russia, but as long as the sanctions don't vote from i, you know, and for sending
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a weapons to ukraine, but as long as the defensive weapons, no offensive weapons. so it's, it's, so it's very convoluted. you know, you know, if, if they're going to do well, and i think only negations other the older, well, it's more like, well because it's not my call. i mean that's, that's the reason this, i don't think as a business, particularly strong positive agenda. she's not macro on and people sick, the death of co i used to be that would be the case, at least the candidate isn't left. and now we have with river martin. you know, one of the things i'm looking at mainstream coverage here of the, the boogeyman words right. waiting, you know, that's what they always love to invoke here. i'm a really convinced of them and they look at the lot of these parties. and so we have the european union, um you, europe and parliament elections it's, it's more people the solution with the me, a liberal parties of the center and then anything else i don't see this lunch to the right or the right thing is they love to say so this is just
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a dissolution and particularly when you look at the u. k, i mean, you know, i'm an outside or way outside or but when i look at these are the, you may labor in the tories, i just say what, what do you want me to decide? i mean, you know, it's like, he's been there this bankruptcy of ideas smarter. yeah. and it, well, i think it's a little bit of to do with the show for the new, you know, when you look at those policies. what, what is the main issue in the british election is probably immigration with the economy is a very close 2nd. and i think we'll do the same thing with the french parliamentary elections. immigration is a huge issue which those parties you talked about, those mainstream parties of shied away from tossing head on now for 10 or 15 years now, you know, the, the, the infrastructure started to crumble. yep. and people now moving towards the pin depends on motor it views them, judges up to the right. the pen has to be ready twice over the last 10 years. um she said she was smart. she could see that it wasn't very clever move to be combining to, to remove from new york and union when you know, the, the, everything unique is so much the from. so that would be
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a nancy votes from that would be a negative votes from a number of the key groups like pharmacy because farmers farms in the okay, for example, never lost a huge amount of money just because that code for subsidies which is government contra place and the pen would realize that she did that, you know, it will actually cause more problems than the i'm actually giving her use and leverage, but keeping in the european union gifts. so more power came to a more leverage gives her a board a power base. but hang on, you know, she's your skeptic and she's hinted recently to the front for us that, you know, we taught rollouts for us. it becomes a referendum and this is a little part of the black, no game, which i'm absolutely so that's and will play out and the coming months she will talk you for a whole load of exemptions, you know, giving priority to french citizens and business friends. citizens for jobs, for example, a new role is on integration, border control, which is exclusive to friends. and if you doesn't give in to that,
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well then we have a situation where by she won't be forced to say, well, i can't do anything above this. i mean, people are saying that we should have a referendum, you know, i'm with phone stays in the unit now fast founding member of the european union. in less than that, not being any longer in your opinion and is on think of with us the end of the european union as we know it. so i think what happens is nothing predicts in this, in my articles, i think over the coming years we're going to see a streamlined new european union evolving to and from us will get us exemptions. jim, you will get it's or, or, or george they just cave to the status quote. i'm, i'm putting my money more on that position then the, um, uh, alternative force is getting their sway. because this is this, the, the nature of neo liberalism. they will crush any faith so you can put lipstick on a page all you want. okay. but they crush you in the end storage. i think that's right. because when you think of immigration,
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i mean the immigration policy is said by the european union. you really come to stop play around with it. this of the european union decides immigration border controls as like you're going to simply say, well, you know, we're not taking in anymore asylum seekers. we're going to close the borders to asylum seekers. and um, yeah, the given scenario being said, no, you can't do that, but to violate. so i'll rosa it will be say, well, we're not going to take in our quotes of migrant since the use of what you can do that, that violates a you both. we've seen what happened to fix or well, i mean you're going to get hit him with fine off the fine off the fine because he's violating the e. u. bol is, it is the positive we have set, and that, that's what happened to maloney, i mean, maloney or you know is or what i'm going to close the the border. oh no, let anyone else. so the needs of the same thing website and we're not letting anyone else because it's done very quickly. does he use that? you have to do it because those are the, you probably have the tools we have to do as soon as you have the you have to
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follow the products because the same goes for the budget rate controls. because again, the users say we have very strict rules about that through g d p ratio. we have very strict rules about the, you know, how big the budget deficit is allowed to be used on why lighting these rules. you know, and we're going to make life very difficult for your model and his right. well yeah, but the end is going to the use of this in order to confront the he you, at some point i don't see it. i mean, she's already is we should see how she caves step step by step. we're seeing what happened to them alone a but i, you know, i have my doubt that she's the, she's, well, you get one of the will the way in a come from the one thing. one thing i don't doubt martin, is that if i'm missing the chrome is going to get the ball up, i mean to what degree remains to be seen, okay? labor is going to the form of government. we know that. but considering the problems that both countries have
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a default position is foreign policy. the russians are bad guys. we have to back ukraine because that's in lieu of dis, a solving a multitude of problems that they can't seem to solve either party, any party in the european union. go ahead work on a saturday. i think one of the, one of the things that the pen may will consider doing is main. besides the voice being there are various weights of us on old, pick your opinions and decisions to get our way to get help. policies rushed through and one of those, one of those decision to see could be to you can really make a huge um, noise about is the you funding of the claim? well for example, i mean i think she is going to play the black male card with your fan unit to get her way. was a, she gets that exemptions or not. and ultimately leads to around the front referendum, which is the ultimate site. because you know, the, you can't really function without frogs, that city but,
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but you'll just point about, you know, all these a rules and you don't, you won't be able to, um, you know, make changes to the rules and immigration that they will make changes. they will make exception, the assumptions are already happening. and when to your opinion, it will. so it's great says one of the piece about some of one of the complaints of a number of big other countries was the fonts. i negotiated a set of rules for itself which included a whole list of exemptions, and there's no reason why they come out of your power, full founding foundation, let fall into the reason why i called onto again for new exemptions. you know, the problem is, is where does that start and what does it stall, continue loss of the same thing, you know, but my point is okay without sorry for the tools passes so quickly and therefore, but we will have an opportunity a week from today to see if any of our predictions worked out. all right, i want to take my guess in budapest and america sion. of course what i think our viewers for watching us here are do you see next time? remember,
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