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is of what they need by the, in the entity and, and in all honesty, they can only also have doctors. i will not get any way if we do not resolve the issue of the land. if we do not resolve the issue of his day to bank, if we do not resolve the issue of the financial status, that i explained to him, our consumers in south africa. and if we do not resolve the issue of industrial that is ation and finding all the industries in south africa, which i'm going to create employment and deal with the issues of poverty as things didn't have that they didn't, may not know. so if it can be working on the way, i think the quote of this, the district is a in terms of unemployment was pinned to the small businesses can no longer that should be given to small businesses. government government support is not any way. okay. and so you could find the,
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i mean these will obviously historic collections because the amc lost its majority for the 1st time of us since 94. what is it about and sees policies which are currently not winning the votes? very quickly. i don't. if you listen to a to accommodate the epic charter, i say again to read the answer money for us to and you'll read this science statement of freedom. the best of luck to turn into the same perspective. investors are planning again that has been the position of the and so yeah, and she would know that is a position when we're members of the n c or the formation of it. yes, i think we'll be able to with the day and get those points. phones is because we tend to be able to test the parts and the weakness implementing part of those things. one is the coordination of those about the big because you'd want to instill windows of instructional outside have made the point. the $2.00 is a bunch of issue in paul, a implementation so that they're kind of brought out on the part of the blueprint point of view. the answers get has,
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and i prospect through the majority before the logic, somebody, they don't, they talk to the people of voting for the, for finding, for the m j 5 to essentially 4 people goes by, the parties are the starting point. so there are other options that are defined for the federal but the weakness and continued vision and looking for the subordination . we appreciate your time. your inside your experiences thought was difficult for them to amc deputy national spokes pos, a member of any c on for a foot. veronica meant to national chatbox from economic freedom fighters party. thank you both. 3rd, sorry much you're very much for giving us. i'm not this to buy from us that our original we will be taking over the tops to stop my life. so i'll see you soon. i the
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hello and welcome to prospect bullhorn time peter a little here we discussed some real news. the american presidential debates demonstrated job, i'm is unfit to continue and office. the question arises and as to who is in charge of 2 major military conflicts, also will elections in france and the u. k. change the course of neo liberalism to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess towards samuel we in budapest, he is a pod cast or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals in america as we have martin j. e. as an award winning journalist and commentator, gentleman cross type rules and effects, that means he can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it. right, let's kick it off with george in budapest. i don't want to rehash the debate here. i think everybody's seen it in had commentary about it, but to a fundamental things that are close to both of us here, all 3 of us here in our audience has a number one george. about 11 minutes was devoted to foreign policy,
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considering the times that's very little, they basically agreed. but it's something that you and i talked about later. course running american foreign policy who is behind these 2 major military complex that they could only escalate and considering the administration. this is really worried me is a, goes in charge. george. it was a very good question for you. just because the shows is the, nobody's able to explain of who is indeed making the decisions. and the practice of the united states is now very actively involved into very serious conflicts, both of which could easily escalade into major uh, global was and with we saw this man, the man who was, it took part in this debate. and this was quite shocking that this is the person who's making the fundamental decisions, you know, and all the things that we have talked about, you know, week of the week about the,
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the escalations in ukraine, the dangers that way. you know, we were getting step by step into, into a very real conversational the nuclear superpower. and this is the man who was making these decisions. and he really was, you know, quite shocking because he wouldn't be want to see if america was like in the 1990 is one that didn't seem to be any problem at all that anyone needed to worry about . but now there's a great deal to worry about. and so, you know, the issue isn't just simply well, well, by him if he's re elect to get to complete his tongue. but what's gonna happen over the next 5 months? i mean, where, you know, until january, i mean, is this man really competent to make fundamental decisions? i mean, we really, you know what? we were talking a couple weeks ago about, oh, he's signed off on the ukraine using american missiles on russian territory. so that's fine. but that's the man who,
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who made that decision because that decision, which we shocked all of us. that was the man who made that decision. well, who was it? who, who made that decision? was it, was it his wife jail? was it the sullivan to, you know, we really need to know because he's a big, big decisions are being made. we want to know who actually made those decisions. well, also judge it does is by does by have the capacity to understand that he made that decision or the teeth i get, or words just being put into his mouth. and this is very serious or you know, more than, i mean he again, you know, looking at these 2 complex, you create and then israel palestine. this would only in bold and someone like benjamin netanyahu to this kind of traits is way into american domestic and foreign policy. and of course, if you're the russians watching that you're thinking of who is in charge, who's going to make the decision? who do we need to talk to? melissa, this is a sent a chill down. everyone's fine, because in the event i've titled this program of the west drift and that's what it
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looks like, martin. yeah, but i think what i've been thinking about some months seems to seems to be ringing true. i've always said that i saw the trunk was going to head towards a big victory. how can not be in doubt now off to the performance by binding? when you look at a guy who is rapidly losing his sense of, of reality. and he operates awesome days between relative weaknesses to detached is kind of the on off switch. what we see on the public stage on the time of the following day, is our campaign, right? excuse me, you seem to be more lucid. but you know, if you're missing yahoo or your boost and you're looking at this guy and you're thinking if this guy is gonna stop, if he really is gonna make it to november the 5th. so i think this is, and we're looking at a lot of slides for trump. i called him mentioned a lot of democrats and folks is wanting to buy it from a lot of them i think which is not fluids. and i think the i type, i put
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a guilt edge around the furnaces by simply watching the scene analysis on the 9th. they will do all of these democrats and circled on screen unit exploits. the pundits and all of them said, this is just too much is too bad because going to be replaced. and after the democrats on cnn was saying that, but the problem with my, i, i think nominally speaking you're absolutely right. but george, these 2 wars, these are bindings, wars is administrations, wars, and they don't want anyone to interrupt what they're doing, whoever is making the decision. so the possibility of a greater possibility of a donald trump could come back into power. which mean we really don't know, we didn't, they didn't talk enough about foreign policy. trump is smart enough to basically stay away from it. but there are these people in power. they don't want to be interrupted here. i mean, you know this, this, this pest called bite and shouldn't get in the way. the reason why i'm saying that
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george is that it doesn't matter what voters think, it's about who has power things. then that's what makes this very dangerous. george . well, i think it is the end of the so long way to go before the election. and one could see also to the best next steps that can be taken to either to do something about trunk or to make sure the trump say is in line. so we, we know that in, in a about a week or so, the trunk will be in a courtroom in new york for sentencing is now being convicted of $34.00 a felon is. and, you know, he'll be facing a judge who's very, who's a democrat, very, very on sympathetic control. it's not only possible that he will impose a presence in person in charge of what do you, how more likely is it now? do you think? well, i think it is more like the sends him straight to riker's island and, and,
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you know, he wouldn't be doing anything wrong. he said, i'm, you know, he's been convicted to study for family gowns. that's, that's what happens. you know, you send the person on the straight talk to right this island. so that's a possibility. you know, you might go easy on them and say, okay, um, well i'll, i'll keep you in uh, in, in detention in your home. and you're not allowed to travel, or if you want to travel anywhere, you have to ask my permission or the permission of your probation office or so that's still a, a possibility. if we also know that the, if the, if the work out with the, the democrats, if things that work out in the house selections and the democrats are the ones who are going to be deciding whether to certify a trump victory. they've already made clear. we will never certify it from richard, so that's a, that's a we will never do it. you know, we'll say he's an insurrection and we will never do it. so i think there's, oh,
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there's a lot of things that can still happen to prevent. and i mean, we said nothing. and the other thing is we yeah, i mean, definitely no because as we go, i mean if, if people go to bullying, you know, all of these criminal charges, all the civil suits and everything. they're not just gonna go away and say, okay, well that's it. you know, i am not nothing we can do. so i give us the president trump, uh, they're not gonna do that, but they gonna still see it as of keep them up. but, but let's, let's stay on course here martin this again this, it adds to my concern is that in george just gave a few possibilities or a lot more out there. unfortunately, none of them very good. none of them very democratic by the way. but martin, if we see the, even the potential of a trump victory or let's put in another way of the lack of abiding victory. i know that sounds kind of strange because you could have the lack of, of buying victory and trump is in jail. so it even is more confusing near what
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worries me is it people in the state department, the c, i a, the defense department say we got to speed up our timelines here. we have to continue to push our agenda because we don't know if we're going to be doing this in a few months time, accelerating that creates more risk. go ahead, martin. if the scenario is george's on july all seem to point to chaos on november, the 5th november the 5th. you will have to set yourself in a similar question with a trunk full witness, whether the establishment will allow him to win, but aligned actually acknowledge those dates in those states. to also jordan's question, i think is pretty clear now from the debates and from on the video footage um the to buy to is wanting america. i think i think she is playing much, much more toner role. then we gave the credit for and you know, a bought it doesn't have choices. i mean, as a general is i can say immediately. when would you like to pay it within seconds? i can see this guy does not meet your advisor. he does not have an extra list of 30
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years experience. normally who is advising on media. takes them into the tv studio, does the practice rum, doesn't the questions? and guesses image has messed. what does not mean advice? i think there's a media advisor. i mean, many of the other advisors he doesn't have, i think jim is filling in on, oh well, i mean martin, i think i think it's pretty well clear that he was given a lot of prep it just that if you have that, the lack of mental acuity, all the practice and prep doesn't get to help you at all. yeah, but i think i actually think that a um of to work in television news for most of my life. i think that what he was doing was he was being read a script through his a opinions and like i'm telling you that is physically impossible for any to be present at some repeated up by some of the same space. i know, i know it's on the 5th, virtually impossible to you know, the best, you know, george. so i, i think the martin is on to something here, but it seems to me and you and i just discussed this. i, i get in my bones. i feel this was pre meditated, you know, he will,
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if he really wants to run, let him, you know, stand his own to feed and give it a shot. he failed, interestingly enough, because it's, this is an obama project to these obama. so i'm very proud of, he's continuing to back him, but i think that everything behind the scenes when it comes to policy, that apparently joe biden isn't really involved. and that's what's the issue here, and we don't know who the decision makers are. no, we really don't. and it was surprising that you had this debate because when we talked about this many times, um uh, you know, when we were discussing the election, we were convinced that that would be no debates because ignited by who will say what i'm under a debate and interaction is really, you know, each one of that one, and that's the, the, i'm not, i'm not going to do it. and that would have been obviously the sensible thing for him to do because rebels or media type solely. joe scarborough was a and the rest of them was same item, the so sharpie,
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so acute is so bold young besides the menu say as well as the young man, you know, i'm, we know this because we talked to him in private then you know where the end is i think, so now i think dollars, i mean taking this step come and say, hey, you've been lying to, as you've been selling us a bill of goods all this time. so it does now become a little bit difficult. however, the media a so in the tank with the buying and then once they realize that he's not going anywhere, you know, obama has said he's saying that's i, george, you know, i agree. i think we, we, i think you've already talked about it uh, 4872 hours to get us figure out what they're going to do. one last thing gentlemen, before we go to the break, remember there is the democratic convention, could be a lot of fireworks there to are a gentleman and to jump in here, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on somebody on this day with our to the
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executive. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show
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seriously. why watch something that's so different whitelisted of opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do have the state department to see i a weapons bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't want marshall state main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, we don't wanna watch it because it might just change the way you the welcome act across that bull's orange and peter live out here, we're discussing some real news. all right, let's talk about the, the election, the distorted in friends here in, in a few days. it will be the election in the u. k. mart. um, why didn't the chrome pull up called in the election? because i, you know, when i think about this guy in high politics coming from nowhere, i know it may be, is put into the presidential powers. this guy,
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his weren't nothing about politics whatsoever. this guy is erotic, and bind being told people on the ground that if they as they go through the selection cycle here, if his party is wallet, there's going to be pressure on him to reside. and we, and getting rid of a french president is virtually impossible. martin is the same person, but i think we will see some new policies. and so we'll see a new landscape and from so when the defense policy wins, the lens language is what the, this but as a big thing, and the rollers micron would be very much as a, as a ceremonious president. you know, like the german presence of all the town and presidents, he, you'll just be required to turn up. are you still have some pals on the phone policy, of course. but you know, he's made a huge mistake and he's made the same mistake that she sent it made, which is the, if you call that's not election very quickly, then in syria, you really more support from your own side, from your own floating voters that might, we thinking of leaving, you know,
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they apparently they quick see, you know, get focused and stay with you and that's completely wrong. let me know that. so really soon i just made this mistake. michael's made the same state, in fact, was pushed. a lot of people to was depend, spotty, and we are witnessing something pretty amazing. i mean, i've been saying to you for a long time, the beautiful elections, which i'm going to, i'm pressing a number of m e p for, right? i mean, please enter your pin bottom. it will change the demographics and the functionality of the open union. but in addition to the far right flips across europe, office clips which can i take more power, i'm going to change completely as a landscape. i'm entirely how the european union function. so you're gonna have a new relationship now, went by the pen does as the leader of this policy, and possibly even the president i would imagine and to this time will she will do is she will basically blackmail your opinion and do what britain couldn't do. which is to say, we don't have a whole lot of new rules and exemptions for folks. i don't know. so i mean,
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you know, literally, liberalism is far more resilient than this. i should be said this, this young guy, jordan bar della george. what you, what are your thoughts on i, i did a little bit of research. i'm a guy, pretty amazing story out of nowhere. and he's 28 years old and he's technically head of the party. so i, i think so, and i, and i don't know really where the look at and spotty will actually get that 51 percent of the, um, uh the, the representatives in the and the national assembly is forcing my crown to name by the law as prime minister because it could be the that the national riley will get a plurality, if you, which case micro can stop playing all sorts of games as to who you will select this up as prime minister. because you know, it's, it's, it's very complicated. they, they have us to around the system. so we already don't know, you know, of to what happens. uh, a union the 1st time what happens then off the, in the,
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in the 2nd round people. so we'll start switching their phones. so i, you know, i'm, i'm not sure they will get that, that 51 percent. oh, so the national riley, i'm going to look, look, pans. that's kind of watered down all of the positions, all of that. yeah. that, that for rushes, anti establishment of abuse. this was a father, obviously it had but the she had to some the for some time. i mean, you know, all the stuff about the, to the fix it, you know, from, from meeting the, you mean from leaving the your, from. so you were leaving the nato integrated logic along, i mean, able to in ukraine, just kind of been all over the place on the no charge, isn't this the getting the maloney is ation of the, of the bar. right. exactly. i think it is so here, then you gradually become acceptable. as i said, yeah, i'm full of sanctions against the rough show, but as long as the sanctions don't vote from i, you know, and for sending a weapons the ukraine. but as long as the defensive weapons,
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no offensive weapons. so it's, it's a, it's very convoluted. you know, you know, if, if they're going to do well, and i think will be the case. other that will do well, it's more like, well because it's not my call. i mean, that's best to read this. don't think us as a business, particularly strong positive agenda. she's not macro and, and people sick. the death of i call, i used to be that we'd be the k, at least the penitent isn't left and now we have it. we have a smart and, you know, one of the things i'm looking at mainstream coverage here of the, the boogeyman words right wing it, you know, that's who they always love to invoke here. i'm a really convinced of that and they look at a lot of these parties. and so we have the european union. um you, europe and parliament elections. it's, it's more people dissolution with the meal liberal parties of the center and then anything else i don't see this lunch to the right or the right. now the thing is they love to say, so this is just a dissolution. and particularly when you look at the u. k, i mean, you know,
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i'm an outside or way outside or but when i look at these are the main labor and the tories. i just say what, what do you want me to decide? i mean, you know, these are just bankruptcy of ideas smarter. yeah, i think it's a little bit as to do with the shock with the new, you know, when you look at those policies, what, what is the main issue in the british election is probably immigration with the economy is a very close 2nd. and i think it will be the same thing with the french apartment selections. immigration is a huge issue, which those parties you talked about? there's my seem to, this is shied away from tacitly head on now. so 10 or 15 years. um, now, you know, the, the infrastructure started to crumble. yep. and people now moving towards the pen, i'm the principal motor views of georgia. that's the right. the pen has de radicalized over the last 10 years. she said she was smart. she can see that it wasn't very clear to move to be combining to, to remove from new york and union when, you know, the european union has so much the from so that would be a nancy votes. probably that would be a negative votes from
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a number of the key groups like farmers because farmers farms in the okay, for example, never lost a huge amount of money just because that code for subsidies which is government can't replace and the pen would realize that she did that, you know, it would actually cause more problems than the not she's giving her knees and leverage, but keeping in new york and here and here. give some more power. give some more leverage. gives her a board, a power base load. hang on, you know, she's here a skeptic and she's hinted recently to the front for us that you know, we can't rule it out for us. it becomes a referendum, and this is a little time to blackmail game which i'm absolutely so some will play out in the coming months. she will out to you for a whole load of exemptions, you know, giving priority to french citizens, indigenous friends, citizens for jobs, for example. a new role is on integration, border control, which is exclusive to frowns. and if you doesn't do any of that well, then we have a situation where by she will be forced to say, well that i can't do anything above this. i mean,
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people are saying that we should have a referendum, you know, where the front stays in the european union, alfonze, a founding member of the european union to mention that not being any longer in your opinion and is on think of with us the end of the european union as we know it . so i think what happens is, and i've been predicting this in my articles, i think over the coming years, we're going to see a streamlined new european union evolving to and from us we'll get his exemptions. jim, you'll get it's or, or, or george and they just k as to the status quote. i'm, i'm putting my money more on that position then the, um, uh, alternative forces getting their sway. because this is this, the, the nature of neo liberalism. they will crush any faith so you can put lipstick on a pig all you want. okay. but they crush you in the end storage. i think that's right. because when you think of immigration, i mean the immigration policy is said by the european union. you really come to
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stop play around with it. this in the europe in union decides immigration border control the side be gone to simply say, well, you know, we're not taking in anymore asylum. see, cuz we're gonna close the borders to asylum seekers. and you've been said, no, you can't do that, but to violate. so i'll rosa it will be say, well, we're not going to take in our quotes of migrants in the use of what you can do that violates a you buzz, we seeing what happens to fix or by media get they get hit him with fine off the fine off the fine because he's violating the e you fall as it is about as of we have set and that that's what happened to maloney, i mean, maloney or you know, which is or what i'm going to close the the border. no, no, let anyone else. so the needs of the same thing website and we're not letting anyone else because it's done very quickly. does he use that? you have to do it because those are the, you probably have the tools we have to do as soon as you have the you have to follow the product. the same goes for the budget rate controls because i gain the
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use and say we have very strict rules about that to g d p ratio. we have very strict rules about the, you know, how big the budget deficit is allowed to be used on the y lighting. these rules, you know? yeah, we're going to make life very difficult for your model is right. well yeah, but the end is gonna you know, the use of this in order to confront the you at some point i don't see it. i mean she's already is we should see how she caves step step by step. we're seeing what happened to maloney, i, i, you know, i have, i doubt that she's the, she's, well, it wouldn't go all the way into a confront be one thing. one thing i don't doubt martin, is that if my chrome is going to get wall up, i mean to what degree remains to be seen, okay? labor is going to the form of government. we know that. but considering the problems that both countries have, a default position is foreign policy. the russians are bad guys,
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we have to back ukraine, because that's in lieu of dest, a solving a multitude of port problems that they can't seem to solve either party, any party in the european union, go ahead work on a saturday. i think one of the, one of the things that the pen may will consider doing is meeting the 5 voice being there are various votes on old, pick your opinion and decisions to get our way to get help. policies rushed through . and one of those, one of those decisions, if it could be to, she could really make a huge um, noise about, is you funding of the claim? well, for example, i mean i think she is going to play the black male card with your fan unit to get her way. was a, she goes to that exemptions are not an ultimately it leads to around a french referendum, which is the ultimate site. because, you know, the, you can't really function without folks that city um, but you know, just point about, um, you know, uh all these a rules and, you know, you know, being able to, um, you know,
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make changes to the rules and immigration that they will make changes they will make exceptions. assumptions are already happening. and when to your opinion, it will 1st grade is one of the piece about some of one of the complaints of a number of big other countries was the fonts. i negotiated a set of rules for itself, which included a whole list of assumptions, and there's no reason why they come out of your power, full sounding foundation, like from the is there a reason why i count onto against a new exemptions? you know, the problem is, is where does that start and what does it stall, continue loss of the same thing, you know, but my point is, i'm sorry for the tools passes so quickly, and that's all, but we will have an opportunity a week from today to see if any of our predictions worked out. all right, i want to thank my guess in budapest and america. sion, of course, want to thank our viewers for watching us here are, do you see next time? remember us up rules, the
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ukraine security service claims it's exposed to plan by civil activists to storm the country's parliament and out the current leaders. the parents burns as the national rally party takes the lead and the french legislative elections. with president microns defeats on the tart, the nations prime minister issued a start warning the subject to declare our objective is clear to prevent the national riley from obtaining an absolute majority in the 2nd round from dominating the parliament, and therefore from governing the country within a serious plan, it has in mind this obvious event of the government definition of unity and.

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