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live in so when people do not think much about the consequences, stone in front minister kind of carlos is now likely to take you somewhere else. place she to said last week, that rush, it must be defeated to prevent boulevard frequently. so their hands are in a very special place, i think they're very disturbed by the major changes in the international arena. international relations may not be moving away from western and american gemini so quickly, but they are moving steadily and surely toward a multi polar world. and this worries them a lot and they see our country as the locomotive of this process and are trying their best to preventing negative scenario for them as much as possible intensive such states and scheme of technical slogan. and under what conditions can frustrate really use the tactical nuclear weapons and we'll hear that if they go 90 to the support something we'll definitely have to be done by z like but the west gibson flame. and the situation was, is the via the russian nuclear doctrine, contains the answer to your questions, both tactically and strategically. we are ready. we can see a red,
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ugly use any nuclear weapons in 2 cases, if weapons of mass destruction are used against us. and if russian state hold itself is threatened, so there is nothing like that at the moment. so i think that the possibility of using tactical nuclear weapons in ukraine, within the framework of our nuclear dolphin, can be ruled out completely. another thing is that as an our president has pointed out several times, the nuclear doctrine is a living document which can change. and in all probability it will change. we will know when which direction when the relevant decisions are made. we'd be also got such a set of what the, what is it like to why can western countries now because of how has everything that is happening now, especially diplomacy? what does this, i don't think what's happening has had much impact on the centers of multilateral diplomacy. which are new york, geneva, and vienna. of course, some things have changed with these changes are not as big and dramatic as they could be. as is sometimes the case with russian bilateral for admissions,
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in some countries which are working under very difficult conditions. we still have a normal process in many respects, similar to what we had before the special military operation before the pandemic. of course there has been some changes, but in general we cannot complain. it seems to me and i hope i'm not deluding myself that we are more or less in control of the situation to i repeat, we are working hard as before. russia plays a very prominent role in the activities of the international organizations in vienna. and everyone recognizes this, so it has become a bit more difficult, but we are managing it all. i think that the audience will be interested in such on the stands and the little bits. what has changed in the house? we're going to use a, some things have changed a little bit in which way, you know, we, the most striking example of this is that meetings of specialized bodies, such as the un commission on narcotic drugs, the international atomic energy agency, c meetings of the governing council and others usually begin with western
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statements of a political nature. the statements that have nothing to do with the mandate of the bodies in which these statements are made up. of course, we have the right to respond and we have rather intense heated discussion serious but strictly speaking, our work in the work of the western countries is not about this. such a political discussions are more appropriate at the you in general assembly. perhaps the on security council, but this happens, i repeat within those bodies which is by definition you should not get involved in big politics close to helping to this not. i'm curious about your opinion about what some into wasn't impressed. i calling to tear find stuff, something marine refer, institution key launch russian nuclear submarine a hung guess i'm good. how do you sing these demonstration of russian military on navy power influence? just the one to 2 months to upset the court movies. oh, stupid special. well, i don't know how much affected can house, but the fact that such a demonstrate it is useful and necessary is absolutely certain,
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and we need to remind them that we're not playing silly games. this is a very serious situation. so the west is entering into a confrontation with the largest nuclear power and it is probably a good idea for them to remember that that is demonstrations are useful. but it is important, of course, to plan them very carefully and to conduct them in such a way that they do not escalate uncontrollably so far. i think we have been quite successful in doing that, but the most those up, i did say yes sir, because in the west it is also an interpreted as russia is to prepare. and then it's happened by the distorted and you don't want to be there. but this is their world view condition and we should also bear in mind is that of course we are dealing with information warfare, which all means are good and their opinion, the yeah, there was. but let's move on to this is tory su, crane paste some indeed what the issue of nuclear security was discuss. uh, what do you think of this event to which are tools?
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russia was not invited you just to and i will give it enough for a solid effort for that as far as discussing issues of peace without the participation of one of the 2 parties to the conflict is nonsense, absolute nonsense. okay. it is a p r. stunt completely pointless or rather hurtful. and that is how the international community saw it. as far as i remember, the invitations were sent out to 168 countries. out of those $92.00 delegations actually showed up many of them far from the highest level do mean joined, communicate released at the end of the broken stock meeting. there's only signs, white and 80 countries. 12 of the most influential countries in asia and africa and latin america refused to sign the documents that issue. and the day after the summit ended, iraq and jordan withdrew their support with one of the following suit a couple of days later, that gives us a total of $177.00. if you read the joint statements in the drawer, communicate, it is hard to hold back tears, no thing was not worth the bothering so many delegations for should use. it is
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a trivial documents, a very little political significance. ask for the discussion of nuclear issues at this meeting level. they are these discussions and the documents itself. the relevant section of it are very, be no indeed, and no revelations, they're telling lee and i a director, general rafael grossing for refused to attend the event of the explained his decision in an interview with the printing mass media saying that the i a a performs very serious technical tasks and who stays away from political matters far from the agencies mandate. i think this is the right to position. i feel i've never met and obviously this i was just about to bring up this because the situation at this approval, she nuclear power plants, the which is a hot topic right now, of course, because this worries roche just cooperation with the i a in particular with direct to grow, say to me, just mention to supplement, know, we're going to move this to, you know, our relationships with mister grossey looks quite constructive. should enter
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business like to me of course. and now we're pinions. assessments and approaches do differ from time to time, which is normal behavior support. anyway, grossey believes that the agency should maintain relations with both ukraine and russia, especially with russians, which is a major nuclear power as a country with a powerful nuclear energy industry. we have the country that builds numerous power plants abroad. we communicate regularly. mr. grossey has regular meetings with alex, say, lee hatch over the head of los angeles. besides mr. gross, he has met twice with the president of russia. the last meeting took place on march 6th instructions. in other words, i think our working relationship is very good. this however, does not mean that we have no disagreements on certain issues here from this, i repeat, it is absolutely normal. the main thing is that both we and mr. grow, so you have a spirit of business cooperation and in my opinion it is working out in general go through that with the others. guardlick. i can't. the problem was done this
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agreements cause any problem. yeah. do this test out corporation in any way, and it's just going to be, well, of course they do, for example, we're not satisfied with the way mr. gross. he's a regular reports on nuclear safety and ukraine are prepared. they describe the situation at this approach and you for power plants and the facts lead forth, and these reports and the assessments in them so sometimes leave much to be desired . more recently, including thanks to our ongoing work, certain misrepresentations has been gradually corrected and the reports are becoming more honest and objective. so i do not see anything really dramatic in disregard. see me coming up. there has been a lot of discussion and was simply about the possibility of for launching this up for auction house planetary. i will tell the chances to go to that is a good question. thank you. the thing is that i'm not quite sure why, but there have been some strange allegations in the western press. allegedly, the russian federation decided to bring the reactors back online. he never had such
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an intention. in fact, this is this information. the issue was discussed between mr. grocery and to me for the last time on may 28th in collision grant, where the director general met with the russian intergroup delegation as the outcome of that discussions. both sides confirmed publicly just in front of the press, the common opinion that it wouldn't be premature to restart the separation of their power plants. reactors. no, it wouldn't be too dangerous, given that ukraine never stopped attacking the power plant. if operating nuclear reactors get damaged, as a result of such strikes, the consequences could be terrible. so we're not going to rush the relaunch of the power plant. will produce liberty, the looks of nobody men with dogs in the same time as well as the senior frame trying to deprive russia of its membership on the board to govern this in the international atomic energy agency, bought them. what did they try to do that to week or so? it seems to me that you crane has largely lost his expertise. and from time to time,
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it takes some exotic stems, events that are either under feasible or completely unjustified. and we see this and a number of international organizations, including the i a, a board of governors. so the cranes began to promote the idea that rush out. so as an so called aggressor and occupier, the country that sees this approach and you for power plants. if you cannot have a seat on the board of governors, what they were saying goes against that by a statute, according to which doesn't countries are not elective, but pointed to the board of governors on a permanent basis every year. and the only criteria for a pointing a country there is that a country's level of nuclear energy development is sufficient to be sure to extend . russia is among the leaders can disregard, which is why it hasn't been on the board of governors. never since the i a was found, it was interesting is that keeps for least thought opposition was strongly opposed to by all members of the board of governors and all the $34.00 countries, others and ukraine, including western countries like the u. s. western countries are admitted, clear,
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and so what if you crane keeps pushing the issue or brings it to a vote. and the western countries themselves will vote in favor of rush around, but not until then the ukrainians, back down. they had an excellent chance of getting themselves into a very stupid situation, additional things. so there's a stubbornness, lack of common sense and necessary expertise. do you do feel comfortable? so what are your thoughts as to what's next? like you print engine ask you sometimes do things without running them by washington says, what are your thoughts to say oh, we better pass the washington and keep about that. we probably do coordinate most things, but there are situations when the tail starts to wag the dog and things like flying expression. i don't know what they were counting on. i repeat, it was a very poorly thought out initiative that was doomed to fail. but apparently, kids level of understanding of the current situation is not sufficient to make reasonable conclusions. they almost push themselves into travelling, for instance,
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it. imagine if all these 34 member countries of the governing council doesn't accept the crane group and voted in favor of prussia against the craning approach. it would have been an embarrassment of epic proportions and ukrainians had almost created themselves. curtis gear had that's right. and now the whole issue of the nuclear energy, which on the age of most, yvonne and its nuclear programs, we had on the side of the i a recently adopted in on to you ran into resolutions here. can you talking to us to little bit more about this, discuss why this b, i a, a choose to go this way. let me just go to sleep. well, i can tell you that the board of governors is composed in such a way that my sheer arithmetic effusion majority belongs to the western countries and all western countries. the corners from washington dc harris, london, tend to berlin. once the order is given relief following, without thinking much about the consequences, this is just the way it is. because in this case century,
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the 3 major european powers of germany, france, and the u. k. for some reason decided that it was necessary to send a strong message into t. ron and the timing was really bad. here's the 2nd country. barely finished morning, the depths of their presidents and foreign minister. so the vote didn't know was plan through the door over, showed that the resolution was adopted by 20 volunteers also, but during a previous vault, november 20 2226 nations voted in favor of the resolution was as opposed to only 20 this night. also in 2020 to 5 nations, abstained tennessee. while this year she a total of 12 countries did. so russia and china voted against the resolution. the title was sufficient. why? because the resolution is meaningless for more. this is a typical example of megaphone diplomacy because it's not to reopen, let me see. and this resolution built a serious blow to the relationship between the i a and iran ration by the sheer fact of being there, even regardless of it's content to you,
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our approach is completely different from what we are betting on real diplomacy. this is a more promising track to follow him, but we have failed to prevent the resolution from being adopted to the tend to run has already responded to this resolution by taking a number of steps to ramp up his peaceful nuclear programs and see if this is what they are paying powers wanted, then we can congratulate them on their success for a cox, so they can more side as it is. and how can this disagreement between the i a, a and the runs to be resolved by of, or as long as the west insist on not talking to a wrong. roughly speaking, everything will continue. and the same thing. is it showing us the most with? well, it's really hard to calm their relationship with a ron a dialogue that's more of an attempt to dictate the west as well. and iran as a country that does not respond well to dictate. therefore it and this line of action is doomed to end up in failure. the vienna talks on the nuclear deal and went on for almost a year and was from april 2021 to march 2022. i was the head of the russian delegation here. and so you know, it was
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a tough negotiation. but by march 2022. the deal was almost completely ready. unfortunately, it's hard to say exactly, but i believe it was like 95 percent or even 98 percent ready when we were in the home stretch. when the negotiations were broken off. and then by the fall of 2022, it became clear that this was a conscious decision made by the european powers and the us in the meantime, get the garage from china and russia worse and, and remain ready to continue talks. and then it's going to go sion process isn't ever resumed once there is political will to do so. there is still every opportunity to restore the nuclear deal to everyone's satisfaction. by the way, if this were to happen to the questions and all of these claims, almost all the claims submitted by the west against the rhonda would be cleared in a matter of months and years all of them. so in fact, in the west positions is hypocritical and has no leg to stand on because the powers of the west on the one hand are driving a wedge, which and i eat and run,
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little getting on the other hand, they're accusing it runs the moral sense with your, despite the fact that a wrong is ready to settle law issues through negotiations, iran will be willing to return to the original parameters of the nuclear deal, such as long as the usa withdraw associates illegitimate sanctions. and we almost got there. so i'm gonna go see ation of those racks and the last moment you can print some of the entire responsibility for that slides with western countries. these hands are the most dangerous consequence of this is that the resulting uncertainty is brought with uncontrolled escalation. we have a very explosive situation on our hands. now you can do it even useful. let's say we want again, why is that? what's the next for the, what us off the thing is if they can get 21 from a wrong and they know with you and you just said it was a prison march of 90 percent on jail bullock, almost avarice and was ready for news. so why not go for it? you have to believe issue of the, i think there are 2 reasons. the 1st is the i geology,
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underlying this approach gives you some very strong ideology and that is pretty obvious. and secondly, there are big problems with the level of professionalism, which is the level of professionalism has significantly decreased over the last 10 to 15 years compared to what we saw. and let's say at the beginning of a century, we're in the like 20th century. and that is really a tragedy if it makes sense for all the involved parties to approach negotiations from a rational positions or yet in the case of the uranium nuclear programs to the position of the west is in many aspects of irrational. in fact, by launching a massive campaigns against iran, the u. s. pushed around to step up its nuclear program and well ahead of its own financing. the responsibility lies entirely with washington. let's see if they did it on there or is it completely absurd situation? that is the reality issue. it was teacher possible the 1st meal it's been 6. yeah. since you west withdrew from the nuclear deal with a ronald lashania,
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what has changed? what i mean is the west and exclusive is the way from resolving these issues between america and the saying yet to, you know, i don't think supplies and administration has much to boast of mileage and in terms of international policy. and they don't have any major treatments decision, but this nuclear deal was at least one particular area where the americans had a chance to make a positive break through under bite. and they began negotiating the nuclear deal and they weren't quite actively involved in those negotiations. and i would say that the american was play to it rather constructive role. that 1st the are tough negotiators, which is just as the uranium is a tough negotiators to, cuz they weren't able to make progress together. but then the decision was made to be, i don't know whether it was for political reasons. so whether it was because some strong objections and the republican party, i don't know what happened there. because for a while there was hoping that the negotiations would resume after the mid term congress elections in the us and event for 2022. but no,
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they didn't. and in response to reporters question whether the nuclear deal was dead. whiting center. yes, it seems to me that this is a strategic miscalculation on the part of the united states. they have no backup plan. they have created a situation of uncertainty in terms of both regional security in the gulf area and international security. it is a serious strategic miscalculation the same can be said about europe since at one point the europe distanced itself from trump and his policy is yet, it has ended up being in the same boat with the americans as a current stage, as opposed to the you know that the issue it has, and finally, let's talk about russia so called isolation. see another boy. there was a narrative in the west, if that's loud. somebody who attended russia isolated because no one wants anything to do with them a score. so what other people are actually saying about that to us here in the do they believe that frustrates the truly isolated on this with this, or who do it is,
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you know, many people do actually believe this, though i'm not sure how many in the diplomatic corps things this way, but if we take the general public or far removed from, from day to day, international affairs and quite a few of them believe this narrative is an issue of mentality. they seem to think that the western world is the whole planet. but in reality, western countries only account for about 12 percent of the world's population, which is not that much really here in vienna. there are about 50 countries that have a strong anti russian position, some, and sometimes they must drop to 60 votes. but no more than that. the rest of the world has very little desire to participate in these 2 russian campaigns. many countries distance themselves from such a course which is also reflected in the volume in many countries abstain ends in the current context. staining is almost like voting against an anti russian decision. move to another indicators that we are regularly and successfully put forward. the various initiative centers will receive broad support, especially in areas such as drug control. since our approach to this issue has been
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supported by more than 40 countries, you can see how much the elaborate of it is. and i'm curious about what russia has to offer in terms of jump control. and then those countries, like most of the, the things we propose are quite elementary, really efficient. it's clear that you need a balanced approach to successfully fight drugs. first, you need the efforts of law enforcement agency that is the central aspect without which nothing will work or 2nd, you have to take care of human rights to the rights of drug addicts are an important aspect of it, though not the main one. and finally, it was well organized medical treatment is crucial for the this is the kind of comprehensive approach that we advertise to machine in the west. the law enforcement aspect is often was completely overlooked. and they believe that the problem can be solved by dealing with human rights loans. this, including providing drug addicts with drugs for substantial therapy syringes so that they don't pick them up on a street test. is it what get packaged,
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just as instructed syringes. so and check themselves to sure this is their way of looking at things because they said you obviously has had far reaching consequences . now in western countries, one after another, maybe a dozen of them so far are actually violating the legally binding you in drug conventions. and legalizing cannabis and marijuana, if this is a direct violation of legal obligations and in canada, they have gone even further in british columbia. they're starting to legalize harder drugs. that's why they doing this. i want to find out i need done. they see that there have been into a dead end list of so many boys, should they say they're fighting the black markets to be moving the drug trade from the black market to the grey or even white market to be able to get additional taxes. i think it is a preferred view of the world, but it is what is happening is even the human rights aspect has become a striking example lakefront. we started talking about the need to protect the rights of drug dealers and drug producers. that is rock bottom which it doesn't get
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any worse than that. they've put the slogan of harm reduction at the forefront. they have already given up as the leaving the harm from drugs is inevitable. and there is no need to fight it much, only to reduce the harm a little we and many other countries have a different view later so that the task is to prevent harm in the 1st place. and we see our goal, our um vicious mission was building and drug free society. of course, it's hard to do that in real life. but if we're going to set goals, then we should set them higher. you watch that they have already raised the white flags in advance and are only fighting to make the harm a little less suitable. so we have more than 40 countries under our banner, and it turns out that we have to do this is difficult for any other country that shares our approach to lead such a movement of view and they trust us. recently, for example, we initiated the adoption of a strong statement on combat in the summer phobia, which was called sponsored by 34 slamming countries. can this be called
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installation, of course, in order this assertion is very far from the truth to there is no installation, but there are certain difficulties and relations mainly with western countries being so slow for be was this we came in talking about multiple that receipt of us, so your colleagues and you see it, do they believe that the world is a really change and the dynamics of building relationships between different countries and on the friends. now that i want to lease and get some kind of fairy tale, that the kremlin to sit down and look at the table in reality as we sat and they're isolated and no one wants to do with the emotions in need of a me just a good is to be honest, i don't think we even discuss this issue with other delegations. our agenda is a very practical one because there are specialized international organizations, all kinds of commissions and committees. and we prefer to deal with issues that fall within their purview as to what they think in the west. i think there are different people in the west. some are able to assess the situation more accurately,
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in my opinion, is the trend towards dismantling the american had gemini, is obvious. we see manifestations of this trend at every step in this. so of course, there's not a single event. there are processes that are spread out over time, but the trend, this quite obvious and so in and it is quite obvious that new centers of power are clearing on the world map for russia is represented in many of them, such as bricks. most of the seo and other groups of children cheap there seems to be no arguing against us. but the most important thing is that's the reaction of the western countries to what is happening, which is sometimes necessary. colton. and their behavior towards the russian federation can be explained. it seems to me precisely by the fact but deep down western countries understand that we are entering a different era from where international relations will have to be conducted different place than to say in the 2nd half of the 20th century, the most to support him a it's good, the stand, the 3 and you know,
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it's for them to accept to the new, to accept it is the reality is life itself, the force of them to do this. thank you very much. it was me, hey, when get another for pama? there's representative of the russian federation to international organizations in vienna. so as always, it's very interesting to talk with you. thank you. thank you. the take a fresh look around. there's a life kaleidoscopic, isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as 1st?
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