tv Cross Talk RT July 5, 2024 2:30pm-3:01pm EDT
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so uncle has been more vocal and adamant in ensuring that the prospects of reproach mentioned discussions actually starts and putting an end to a conflict that has spanned, for more than a decade. the sentiment was shared by the syrian president bush on the left side as well. over the course of the years, of course, it has become more and more important to ensure that the state of syria ensures that as the sovereignty interprets or integrity is kept intact. and this is something that on kind of shows as well. and it also takes into consideration the importance that has been presented by the syrian president and the church of side essentially says that we will ensure that the territorial integrity of syria is respected. but discussions need to be held on based on what we understand. we and we understand that phone service currently in a position to ensure that the russian president is hosted into the care before the prospect or the discussions between 22 and sylvia could begin. but let's just playing a key role here as well, because we understand over the course of the last few years, for the most part,
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there have been a great deal of initiatives that have been led by to to that have been led by russia. iran has been a part of this process as well to ensure that the warring sides of the conflicting sides within the country within syria could essentially come to terms. and that is, of course, one of the many concerns of the syrian presidents, the militants in the northern part of the country, which is currently under the control defacto control of the target forces. and the fact that the syrian president has defacto control over that part of the country they need to ensure that the concerns of damascus are ensure essentially heard on the road map will be made available. but it's, it's a lot easier said than done. but the one thing that is sure all of the sides are calling for some form of approach meant that negotiations do take part in the unofficial word on the street, is that the meeting would take place in russia, which amplifies the position that moscow is currently in to ensure that the peace and stability in the middle east is to accept upheld or establish in the 1st place as well. that's the update. now i see you again with more stories that some of the
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alan by now the the hello and welcome to cross talk where hall things are considered. i'm peter live out. we may never know to what degree jo biden's obvious mental deficiencies have played in recent american foreign policy decisions, particularly when it comes to policies. but it is fair to ask the findings, dimension is leading a small into a global conflict, the
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processing dementia and wars. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal and media analyst in jersey city. we have sarah flounder. she is co director of the international action center. and here in moscow we have julia cast them. she is 11 east political analyst right across top rolls, and i think that means it can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated, sarah, let me go to you 1st in jersey city. so so much is going on. i mean, the last new cycle we have idea of general saying that there where they want to cease fire. now i do not believe that's for humanitarian reasons. they are most likely i'm 11 on which we will talk about. we obviously have the spectacle that joe biden presented the entire world which puts in doubts, any kind of decision making process coming out of the united states or multiple conflicts in the world. and most importantly and sadly, is that there is no push to and the genocide in, in,
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in gaza. and i'd like to throw in to the largest land on grabbing the west bank and the last 30 years. everything is going in the wrong direction. even though everyone is throwing their arms up in the air unsafe, what can we do? go ahead, sarah. well, what's really demented is the policy, the policy. and it is criminal beyond belief out of touch with reality. and this is true. and both by and trump, you hear that debate, there's no discussion of what they said. what they stand for, the only discussion was of the ability to succeed. and, you know, just a camera shot of who can convince voters in the us better of the lies. but both of them absolutely committed to a genocide, a war that as i say, it's out of touch with reality. it's a policy that has completely failed. a war that is dragging the whole range and,
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and the number of deaths, the, the brutality that everyone is seeing on their screens every day. they're not discussing, not, they're not discussing anything. we'll that is happening in the world today, nor did they have any solutions for it. so i found the whole program, the whole debate, totally surreal. and i found even worse, the coverage of expense and where it's, it's simply sticking on. well, biden's ability to answer questions. he sets none of the policy and the policies for both really or set by corporate america, by their need to control the entire region. and israel can no longer performed that wrong for them dryer than face. and this totally failure, they want to talk about personality. so you're at the material, sir, you're absolutely right, because the biggest winner in that debate was the of these really lobby in the
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united states. they were the big winner because they're not talking about what's going on in the region. and julia, what also is, is interest seem to come to um, to reflect upon is how the idea of generals are. what was uh, calling for a ceasefire. they have lost, the adf is lost, it is lost, it's a, has not achieved its goals, and he never is indirectly, a mouse has one. and that's something nobody in western media wants to talk about. go ahead, julia. yeah, absolutely. resigned. is the entity, as we can see, other than sputtering civilians which has been lost. so that's a activity throughout the course of the stand a fight. a war only has hit any kind of a master for the law meters or commanders and in the context of civilian targets. and this has been response to the destination of military bases,
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all in security infrastructure, military infrastructure, and paid weaponry. the attack by the law in the north pocket by telephone and gods, but have been precise and they've been calculated and they followed a very control, passive escalation that has destroyed that not only crippled but we destroyed the design this on the army the way. so right now, you know, and response of israel's never had a strategy even has but decades ago that was only asked that has been in military technology and attendance air force. now, as the law has effectively basically challenged and dispelled the midst of it's the air superior already now is really just on for the last 2 or 3 weeks has been turned back in response to has the last deployment of not an anti aircraft
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missiles and, and really the successful striking of is really targets with, without israel, so successfully intercepting them. uh so, so the, the, the whole facade of time is really military superiority, including air security has been completely ca shattered. in julia, i would, i would submit the only strategy the, that israel has this week to bring the united states into an escalated war. that's their only strategy. that's the, the, and, and the line. all a lot of fine go to you in light of what we've already heard on this program here in considering only 11 minutes of the debate last week, covered foreign policy and even smaller than 11 minutes dealt with what's going on in palestine. and it would have been a wonderful opportunity for both of those candidates to explain why the united states supports a settle or colonial project that would be use american terms,
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a gross form of jim crow. why do this in the united states support that if the united states, in fact supports a rules, rules based order, lionel? either way, i love you, but i want you to think about what you just said. you were wondering whether joe biden could have, perhaps, explicate it, or expatriate is the pluses and minuses of similar colonialism. but we could, when they were just trying to get food this, it was it i, i don't see anybody truly can understand how horrified or, and horrible that was. and now nobody's talking about it now. and course, as you know, peter, i'm in the fiscal, you or if you, you weren't immersed in this, were it not for the internet? is someone once called it, i would know nothing because when it comes to regular cable news,
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this particular sock puppet media. nobody's talking about ukraine or anything for the matter regarding israel, the question that we have is closing charge. is it better to have the, the blank check signed, and now while we're all worried about jetway again appearances, or does this week have it on this, on the, the cause would mister netanyahu, for example, one to stand next to mr. biden? and therefore, could somebody suggest that this, this plan must further be models and, and, and they'll advise, because this man is agreeing to it. i mean, the, to come, the calculus of this is incredible. but as far as the american news goes, nobody's talking about, well, i mean it, well sarah, what, what is, what was most terrific about that debate is that the genocide continues without comment. that's what's most disappointing. and in horrifying, i mean,
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for anyone that has any kind of moral compass whatsoever, that's what's really tragic about a line on the right. you can go talk about all the optics all you want. i mean, it should be everyone's getting clicks off of it. it's really quite pathetic and i agree with you. there's no difference between the 2, sarah. well, they really only want to discuss c optics because they can't discuss what they're doing. except to say they fully support this genocide or war. and every step of the way they know that israel is failing, they know better than any of us know what they know who the inside track, but they see the resignations of folks leaving those who aren't showing up how they know it. the reservists who are just checking out 900, i think it's, it's an incredible and the as rallies with dual citizenship who are leaving, they know the ports are shut down. they know it very, very well. all the actions of human, they know it's strange global shipping,
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and they know that the iron don't no longer really exist. oh, it has below whose figure it out piece by piece by piece. and they know every single inch of it has also been charted by of some very interesting has blood drawings that they sent to the whole world. they sent it to the home world. the actual coordinates of all different vital is really the technology. oh oh, the tire electric grid for all of northern israel and how they are the exact coordinates, hollywood targeted, they sent a message and it's they can't discuss any of that now, but the, if it was not. yeah, but julia, that the message they were getting from from israel to it's and it's being telegraphed to being added states is that they want to, if they essentially cannot win against him, us,
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they want the united states to go fight, has blah and put in iran. in directly on their behalf, go ahead. julia will move in level from the beginning, especially when we'll have a crazy rpm like nothing. yeah. where the future of for the buying us for occupation society in general need no exception. but someone just so, so long and full arrogant that he believes that we have the pro long ation of this done recital working. um, basically he come out of jail and he has a lot of phones pending corruption charges when they was going to be thrown in jail and go to court one. this is all over us. so there's, there's very little time that he can buy left at this point as to save time. he always, basically campaigns on being the, the anti iran guy, the, the one who's going to know and destroyed, and iran parton's, rails,
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of security and prosperity of course. um, it looks like the resistance, the unified resistance forces are doing the opposite because of the school. pity and the the or what, what, nothing. yeah, who right now it's, it's basically still trying to buy some more time. but of course, it's been unsuccessful in getting the support from, from the us to, to expand into loving non because the, the us knows what israel, which is moving and gaza has the problem up against and loving our. that's the lar, from strongest and largest non state resistance, military for to know in the world as a large arsenal. okay, so yeah, i have to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on dementia and war. stay with are the
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parts. i'm are executive and i'm going to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different by little opinions that he won't get anywhere else? what could i please or do the have the state department c i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't want my show state main street because i'm probably going to make you comfortable. my show is called direction. but again, you probably don't wanna watch it because it might just change the way you the welcome, ect. across stock were all things are considered on peter level trauma and you were
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discussing dementia and wars. the okay is go back to line or in new york line, or in the 1st part of the program, you talked about the optics and how things are perceived and all of that, which of course i agree with you completely. um, but what being in the fishbowl, i what i would query you on your thoughts about because you already mentioned it as a benjamin netanyahu most likely will be addressing a joint session of congress seats on this before i think you probably would. once this is done on him, no other person who has addressed that joint session of congress has many times we know the number of standing ovations will be there and all of that. but the line of living in the face bowl, if you have any idea how the world will perceive that the oh, how the world of the, how the world. oh, i know, i know all of the networks are going to be slobbering,
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all right. and the usual stuff, the a i don't even want to waste time on it, but i'm asking is, do you have any idea how the rest of the world is going to speed? yes, i did tell you how the rest of the world feels right now, because the rest of the world looks as, as though we have some form of current events, dementia, we're unable to articulate and recognize what's happening. you know, peter, there was a time when a lot of folks would say we cannot fight wars against terror. terror, it doesn't exist. it's not in a place. it's a, it's like catching smoke with your hands. and yet, when you talk about home us, they think that how much is a play is with barracks and as garrison, and there's a, there's a, is there the come in genuine, there you go, which a country you have no idea. we completely, the world looks at us, i think and realizes that we have basically a band and everything that we said post 911 as though we didn't learn anything. i just go, we are fighting these mythical because if there's one thing i think the world knows we know is that door against there is always protects jewel. it's never forward
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that that is a reason for it. i'll tell you what very, very quickly somebody one time said, the judges of us ever going into a rag would have been 0, had there may next board been broccoli, or we know that. so we always realize what's the angle. so the words must be looking of us and thinking. do you have any idea what's going on to the answer is apparently no. well, i mean line on we went into a rack because that's what the israelis wanted. at the end of the day. it wasn't about oil. okay. i wish it had been okay. but the disney shows the shows, the demented foreign policy of priorities of the united states. you know, sarah, again, you know, the, the, there's the lock, it will, the diminishing sauce power that the united states has. anthony blinking is left out of the region. i mean, nobody wants to talk to that pool because he's israel's lawyer. they want to talk to you, they can talk to is directly, why do they need to talk to us? so he's the secretary of state. i mean that's how diminished the reputation of the
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united states. and, you know, you have all these liberal arrows in the, in the region, you know, they, they like western values that like going on. big picture, even thing now of a poor with the united states is doing, i mean, they've lost any kind of connection with them. sarah, as well as any connection because the u. s. policy, it's, it's corporate policy. they mustn't dominate the regions. and yet they're unable to, that is the reality. and there's people's movements that are so powerful and have developed to coordination, but also science and technology. ways of defending themselves, even though the casualties are enormous, are horrendous or terrible. but the israeli army, created by the us armed by the u. s. funded by the u. s. is unable to do the job it was created to do. and so, yes, they do want to expand this war to around today. we always think that will go
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better expanded to can to live in on is that a solution a wider war? i, i think the us their own aircraft carriers and what i say were reminded and in yemen with the answer lies, missiles. so every step of the way, then as a matter of fact, the us and raised it was i was rarely officials came and met at the white house claim. they were gonna get into logging on. they were given full support to support for this. and then 4 days later and general brown said, no way, no way, are we doing that and what happened in the meantime. what happened in the interim was as block released of that little video showing exactly the coordinates. and they could see that everything is already known, and the b is rarely would be a disaster. now it's not much different where they're on. so the idea that the us
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can, the military can fight some war. they can tear off the whole region pets. unfortunately true, but they are not going to secure their domination anymore. those days are passed and they can accept. that is really what's going on. at the most basic level you sold are into complete denial of a really good not only have popular see, but the idea of netanyahu speaking to joint congress that really has to normalize and to applaud genocide. and there should be opposition. every single city town area under us. when that happens, they'll be been demonstrations in washington dc. but really what i think is needed is everywhere in the country. for i shut it down to stay away or walk out. every conceivable kind of action against is normalizing and applauding of genocide.
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i mean it's up to the whole population, but there are you, we all know that there will be consequences for the, for that taking a moral position. there is very severe moral consequence, inquired the 2nd. no, i mean, i don't know. i mean, i don't, i had always been on the, on this journey with me houses with people. i the, you know, line has been on the early with me since october and you know, line was a long term, a guess on this program. and we had said some pretty rice of things about the blue haired kids on campus and all that. but when i solve the last you months before graduation, that is high, applauded them. i mean, there is a moral compass with the younger generation and we should all respect that julia. i mean, the, we are, by the way, that is, there is a moral compass and they were surprisingly affected. and literally, and, and that is what cit riskier as is so well known. but for the younger generation, they have no care for either of these candidates, no matter how much they build them up. oh and they're opposing these fundamental
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policy and they're doing it putting their lives, their future, their career. yes. yes. they have. uh, it's because of the navy, the entire political system in east coast has offers them nothing. nothing, nothing. okay. they have been rocked okay. of their future by these people, by the donors and all of this. so julia, let me go back to you, you know, is israel proceeds with its genocide in gaza and it's land grabbing it on the west bank. it puts itself into an existential position up to be or not to be. i mean, this is really the stakes here. and the israelis, they believe that the united states is going to come to their rescue. well, as there is already pointed out, aircraft carriers can be sunk to go ahead. absolutely. and while all israel seemed to be able to view or is wipe out, you know, massacre in hudson, so they're in the river. this light has been attacking their,
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all of their military structure land in air. precisely. and every time it's but they wants to escalate by, for example, you know, killing commanders like they did yesterday. the resistance response through, you know, designating their, their military base sense and the military and some structure. and this so far as belong to only use a fraction of its capability in this long term, more of attrition and us through all of this to already israel's, the by the military and let's on leadership is divided right now the war cabinets completely dissolved and there is the stand off between the launch and nothing yeah . whole and you know, the war cabinet, of course. um and there was she was uh before it's resolving with the, with the disagreements with the malackle contact and the lack of vision within this genocide on machine that, that is providing this entity. so right now there's a,
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there's a complete collapse from within, with the resistance really having the organized buffer hand um without even giving it to all that they've got. so right, so of course the, there's not much, not more time that they can buy at this point. um, with the resistance, consistently revealing new capabilities and new equipments and for a, for, and this will extend the course to the us as well. no longer has uh the, the security um its military up, its ever expanding formally ever expanding military base in the middle east, which is now off crumbling from within. yeah, lionel as a, as a way of this brouhaha over the debate continues, i mean it's non stop here. but you know, the gravity of the issues that we have already discussed on this program in a very short amount of time, shows the direction of where things are gonna go. and we're all left with this man in the white house. tell me, there's hope. well i, you know, i,
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i think there is hope and the hope will come by virtue of and i keep saying it's a very civilian and citizen and alternative media, which is bigger than anybody can ever imagine. people, the cable news world don't understand. that's number one. number 2, it never ceases to amaze me peter, that when people involved themselves in war, we never learned number colin powell one time said, you called it the pottery barn rule. if you break it, you own it. people think that somehow they're running against that of hezbollah, unmatched. there's a bunch of rag tag, spear, shocking natives who have no sense of sophistication and they're, they're, they're mobilized by hate. and that could be easily quelled by this massive military with this incredible intelligence and the use of modern warfare. it is, i know, 1st of all, did anybody think this group, what was their plan in front of that? you say something very quickly about genocide, the part that i keep telling people and we have to remind people,
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genocide in the words apartheid and ethnic cleansing. these are not projective. these are statutory definitions that are clearly enunciated, clearly prescribed and clearly indicate what is going on. know people still being peter, that the word genocide is being mean or they conjure up something about role or to which it was or cattle cars and disseminate that by of, of you know, uh, the holocaust. yes, that's a part of that, but you don't necessarily have to go there for you to meet all of the criteria. and i wish the international chords quote for the window chase bank also. it doesn't have the same kind of punch because the people that are being genocide and now we're brown people. i mean it, it's, it's built in racism as well. okay. it's genocide with people we can identify with . but if we can identify with them, well that's just ok as well. the chance of this happening is sweet and they are nice to none. and we've always understood, as we saw this during world war 2, we had a real hard time with the germans because they looked like us and the value they
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look like us. but no problem with the japanese. that was different. they weren't human and it goes. but it's, it's, it's credible, it no matter what i mean at the end of the day, you know, when we taught when it's a genocide is a modern term. but the container who has been committing genocide against other people, lot of it happened in europe. and it's now in europe and settlers in, in palestine are doing exactly the same thing as all the time we have one, i think, my guess in jersey, city, new york. and here in moscow. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are days. so you next time we member process rules the same wrong. just don't safe
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the for the last 2 and a half years we have learned that we cannot achieve peace without dialogue and diplomatic channels. honda res, prime minister, big the old bon poles for. i get the magic resolutions in the tree and conflict he met with moscow with like the put in who said that the other slot appears. i'm willing to stop the violence. there is still an unwilling to seem to abandon the idea of waging war. nevertheless, we are grateful to the prime minister to see this as an attempt to restore the dialogue. a new offer shows us shutting up on this trip to moscow. say that he doesn't represent the block a, somebody even suggests that hung area and from ministers the tree, the principal we believe that it undermines the you.
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