people not, and most at all, miss sit in moscow house british diplomacy in russia failed as a proud, as great to see you. again. thank you very much for your time. and this is to get on some of the things some advice from you by now the last time we chatted, it was primarily about the case for in po assistance. these are the russia which borrowing from the title of your book sale. but to them, more interested in taking a look at the domestic politics across the west and also in the united kingdom. because we have had a number of major political events like elections in your own country or in france . the has been some debate in the united states, and i think in all of those, the political establishment is looking rather clumsily. i wonder if you see that as just, you know, unrelated sequence of, of vows or do you think it signifies some sort of a trend, perhaps the turn of the tie, the political type?

well, i mean, they're the 2 aspects of that space. one is that, so it takes moves and cycles anyway, and what we're seeing in the u. k. is it just a natural kind of a name it to that cycle test from given if the government has been in pa, for 14 years, and that's kind of, you know, that if flows up and down in terms of kind of the nationalist, more international movements. uh, i tend to think um, but you know, the other aspect, it's a specific nature of what we see today happening, where there's quite a shop can move away from the consensus, the main political parties in several countries. the u. k. being a being born, obviously the late in the body will gain power in the u. k. but we're seeing the rise of, of the mon message bodies of the reform party sort of gaining motivates and of course, in the fall. and so in the back if the cons decision was created for the 1st time actually kind of hand uh let's see what the 2nd line of waiting says, but to moving depends that's, that's potty the. so i think there is a to embrace,

um, i so sense of the kind of shift away from to the mainstream kind of physical bodies which are already on seen the questions people worried about stay on the cost of living clauses on as far as i'm concerned as an internationally some example of something new training and other kind of complex. so and well, i think that's concerned that connects these traditional policies and nobody's saying anything different from each other on these big label challenges which any seem to be getting was pulled up even though studies horse thing, slightly different things they have. they tend to do uh, the same things when they come to power. and uh, you know, the last time we discussed your book, one of your arguments was the west and the leaves have become sole cell sensors and because of perhaps so arrogant that they couldn't be bothered with starting the reality. you know, establishing facts on the ground objective facts on the ground and, you know, making the decisions whatever they may be based on those realities on the ground. and i wonder if that applies to domestic politics as well that you know, they,

they press a certain course which may be totally avoided from what the reality actually calls for. yeah, i think that's probably by oaks on the think. well, he also sees it is less of a separation between can estates and media now as well. you know, like what you see. so in, in the you k, in the price, when you took by ukraine for example, somebody, i'm going to think about it pretty much every day. this part of the difference between what a full, the, the, the 2 main political parties say. and what kind of media say it, is it almost kind of a complete cancellation of debate with fact so relevant to kind of, you know, the narrative, the think what the purpose parties are doing is they actually, i mean debates and they try to introduce kind of stuff with the government and this with major media on when you talk about nothing that's kind of new, particularly because the people i'm based on a day to day basis they and these are for quite middle class here. people are in good jobs, but have a just a little bit of information about what's happening and also say joyce and so and

the world. and even though in countries so they can catch the it's popular is made is getting people told more by will facts and mill events and nothing. that's a good thing. that's mr. proud. i think there is also there a very important distinction there between again, preaching and practicing because it is true that the populace parties are addressing bread and butter issues. but sometimes i get an impression that they're doing that just for the sake all 5, you know, populism or um, you know, for vacation, do you think they actually uh, me and do you think they actually in time to put that into a real policies for the people because from all the examples we have have up until now, even with trying to reach was a major example in the united states. you know, getting those ideas. realized is a huge challenge. i'm not even sure it's ria like, it's a, it's possible bestbuy to come to the specific drug going to the end of, of the onset. but of me, i think i'm a no, i think there's

a genuine desire to kind of do something different from the main streaming creating on situations like you know, you kind, nobody's talking about this kind of ridiculous situation where we think you any way to come to succeed in ukraine is to send billions and billions and billions of weapons and nothing but he seems to be improving any training so gladly losing nobody's talking by an alternative to that. and i think that needs to be that's a baby. so i think might be point knowledge of flaws and others, including civic dual band took by the need for the negotiated separately. i think that's a genuine sentiment. i think people generally think, well maybe we need see something different. you know that, and i think that's a good thing then we should encourage that now. and trump, what happens that i mean when you go back to insulation back in 2016 is coming in in 2017. well, it's different than was that i see the, the political establishment in washington, including with this, within its own fiscal positive of pumpkins, was totally set against him. having any improvements of relations with russia. i think that the and i make, may saw the have changed. now,

when in congress and get it in some of the media more generally, there's a much more open debate about what i see is a good idea of just pumping billions of weapons into ukraine. so i think that dynamic that political dynamic in washington dc is different now than it was to the years ago when the age of law, sudden the election campaign that he won. so i think i think if we were to get empower and let's face it, if joe biden stays in the vice and the likelihood increases day by day. the thing the political dynamics of dc will be different for trump and it would, he would have, i think more space to have to pay to buy that. she kind of changing that particular state is going you could now uh you mentioned something about us through crane and one budgeting transfer we see across the entire west including the u. k. is an increase in military responding us. russia being used as a primary pre tax, and it's suppose as aggressive motives,

and that's pretty understandable. after all, there is a conflict ranging in the rushes increasing its military spending as well. but one thing the kremlin is very cautious about is making sure that they are also putting a lot of resources into uh, the quality and availability of public goods saw that the public doesn't get to test. and that's ultimately what the politics is, or has always been the balance, you know, managing your foreign policy concerns against the, the domestic challenges and with put you on the police. it's very, very clear. she makes that statement in eh, and every of use pretty much every of his speech is that there is a priority of domestic politics above any uh, war and adventures. do you think it's the same in the west? do you think the politicians in the best actually put that priority on the well being of that own people? northern speeches, but in actual policies?

well, i mean there are 2 aspects of that. first the, i mean, certainly if you look at the code election and you tell you guys dominated by domestic issues, no one's really talking about what's happening on, on the world stage. that's focusing on things like the cost of living crisis. yeah, you have to go into somebody a bunch of these ballooning, you know, and i know i know, i know, you know, they've made a commitment. they've made a commitment to increase defense spending is $2.05 of gdp by to like putting the consented punch. but the point is, nobody is talking about that. that debate is just being, you know, based on that debate that, that's just been accepted. this given but the, the debate itself is really bad. domestic issues that's, that's at the specified aspect. that's the 1st aspect of my response to a question. the 2nd aspect is, even though they don't talk to you by the all the actually really make us any save . you know, by having a phone policy, it is actually increasing the likelihood of a must be a general conflict unit in europe. but the thing that they absolutely on helping the domestic constituencies, because even though they,

they refused to debate to the actually the policies that actually make the outliers much more dangerous. yes, you know, we're worried about the cost of living causes getting appointments in the hospital informal way to buy a new table. frankly. now there is an argument in british politics that, um, you know, your political environment reached its big back in 2016. i mean, the, the big of population reached with the breakfast. well done. that if the labor winds this time around, it will signify the return of british political life back to, to the center and the bread and butter concerns which they secondly press rhetorically. but do you actually by do you think there is a sort of this either mentioned within your political leads to actually get to the, you know, mundane and boring, work of governance? politics is puckered just by its nature, democratic politics because one side have motivates then the other side that by

snakes when was politics ever know populace? i'm going to take on this issue with you in the next question. good. yeah. can you of the ask about my 1st question, but i think we just stuck in a bullying mundane middle when everybody has kind of flesh ideas on the thing. that's a real problem on the think. actually, that may be one of the reasons going back to what we discussed at the top of this session. why nation is policies are starting to gain popularity because you know, they actually are offering something different now. some aspects of what they offer, you know, they and the immigration and stuff i plus they don't support that because i'm po, i've been told isn't and that sort of thing. but the old and a button, but you know, so why did that sort of bigler things? they'll say no to do bite is and i think guys, you know, that is going to give you more appeal. now you mentioned a minute ago that uh, pop politics is popular is by definition i'm just wanting some i agree with you and i think we can see about right now playing out in the u. k with the sort of a lot of alpha says being pulled by the torres on the tactical aspects of voting

and trying to get as many bo, uh, voters out to you and the baton bolts as. and we saw the same thing and during the previous election contained in the united states with the democrats going out of that way. and you know, as trying to facilitate the procedure to the, to an extent when some concerns about the credibility you were raised above. you know, that's done everywhere, but after the ballad, bulk, so, so the, the polls close you need to get to down to work. and by that that, that's what happens if you have a good leader. because at the end of the day polls 6 is supposed to be about the delivery rather the delivery of the resolved. so rather than the delivery of boats . so i, i wonder if, again, i guess i'm asking the same question in a different way. either an athlete or is from your side at least, who genuinely want to change things around, maybe the controversial way,

but we genuinely want to bring change about not themselves into the office or that you know, even political interest, but actually change something for the people. yeah. i mean, i don't see any kind of genuine fresh idea is coming from any, any physical body in this campaign, some areas of interest. i suppose that i'm giving a body's more independence by the office, a bunch of responsibility and things of that that i see. male is what kind of tiny bug government did in 1997 when it came to the bank of england independence, which is one of the best things actually they have happened. then they'll have use of government meddling and they say so macro economic phase. but in terms of the big ticket issues, i didn't really see any sort of size will change. you know, the k is a country with massive debt law. she caused by caving the unprecedented simple and gaudy tools made people, j and k. but, but you know, we have to use that. we didn't have a, somebody to spend, even though actually it was spending another note with 5 cent of d. p on dependency. but nobody's even talk to you by that. there's no money to kind

of come up with some fresh ideas. and that would be like the idea of cutting public services, you know, cutting simple 7 stoves making. is it under that sort of thing? so, so we kind of stuck, we've got new money, we've got new with the idea is people just fed up with the toys that we're gonna end up with of a bullying labeled prime minister said. but that doesn't really say necessarily signify, we'll change as a product. we have to take a very short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments. stay tuned. the the

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a form and british diplomat as also ralph missed it in moscow. have read this diplomacy in russia for you, mister pal. they've been this very active watcher and commentator of the conflict in ukraine. and we partially discussed already how it may be affected by various political developments in the west. but i want to ask this question specifically, do you think there will be any change uh, after the results of british or american elections are out there thing they'll be any change on the back of the police selections, because i know the conservatives of the labor party seem to have exactly the same policy, which is a policy not to discuss the own ranks and those who spoke to ukraine. but the 2nd point is we didn't really have any power any way because new policies almost completely decided by the united states of america. and on that, i think actually any result from the east presidential election that led to some of the trump examples of game power. you know, could substantiate shifting impulse to where he's being quite open in saying that

he would stop multiply by trump, you and thing. i mean, you know, whether he could do that as another massive. but i think boy, he has that is a, he would say to and this kind of non stop pollution of billions and billions were just having apps, you know, effect and any kind of making you create more in depth said losing motels, you're losing more lives. you know, from this kind of touchy point as well. so i think that's what trump essentially kind of would like to do so that we know that i imagine i would really but either way, but uh, but it may, i think that that will be the key change of what happens if the truck comes to power and the cost is by and stays and device and the other side of the area that like it seems to increase every day that you roll before that open award between the ukrainian or russian became inevitable. so as soon as the biden became the 46 president of the united states, did you reach that conclusion based on uh, biden's own political world view, or perhaps the lack of there? oh, well, i mean, you had a bite and was a bit like a, you know, george

w bush when, in a sort of roadside legal invasion or if we walk in in 2003, there's a real kind of sense of unfinished business, you know, for george w bush, you know, back in 2003 and by and when he came to pass for me is really old by this, this really deep seated reading. the them kind of positive being cheated. see a from the election rate to back in 2016 oil risk and have time maybe in your band . so if it is by the russian intelligence says, and all those kinds of things that they were complaining about. and so the thing that they much kind of, uh, brought into his world view when he came to power and he boil back in the whole, the between it. and so it takes, it is so booms and then people are that had been in the will. and this under the, of the drum and is just a complete but 10 to the can available is us policy that had been placing this is the stuff the ukraine quite so said everything that he did. did you know when he came to power? i said, well, you know, i was going to finish business to the washer. i did likes to the page news. so last, so what's happening?

ukraine will be in the old spot and we'll go back to square one. and that's where we all today. no further thoughts. i'm sure your have caught some glimpses of the us presidential debate. what impression did it make on you? it was, but it will side. i mean, for any old man. right. i mean, my dad's old, he's exactly old and by and i is really sad. see, you know that, that happen happen. but i see that, you know, the question for me is that has, nobody noticed this before, you know, but he's actually an old man and he's the oldest kind of us present getting into getting into the election campaign. he clearly can't cope anymore. he doesn't have the mental 5 faculties to do isn't that very much came across in the, the device. so they didn't get a duty looked like somebody who is just too old for the job. and i see the other big question is policies like that. now what would you be liking for years time if he is still present there he's not going to be any benefit then then he is now probably he's going to be worse. so may have been cash sheet as much as the devil

got potty try to kind of cover all over this and say well he just had a bad day. we will head but have bad days. mean i have bad days too, but, but i think actually it would be a mistake for him to continue. you know, we all have bad days and uh, you know, i think your reference to your dad and you know and pursue that. you may have felt for biden, describing this whole situation. besides, you know, it's understandable on a human level, but i sometimes wonder if there it is being exploited because he's not some old ankle. you know, that the, you have to sympathize with. he is actually, you know, running for the very powerful office, you know, office that requires a lot of responsibilities, a lot of judgement and apart from it being an elder and in our case of elders abuse, i mean, it's pretty clear that the man is suffering when his sounds on that on that stage. i wonder if um, 7, this is the right emotions here. and because of the out of the day,

it's not only that, you know, he's being exploited and manipulated. but this whole idea of empathy. why should we emphasize with anyone who is running for that kind of off as this person needs to be sharp, she needs to be, you know, really conscious of both sides of the responsibilities and the risks associated with it. why is empathy at all relevant here? well, we'll, we'll humans, i'll be but i mean my, my main concern actually is a, you know, that the, his policy is he came as being a complete failure in know, just a new crane and obviously bus a button is, well, god. so, you know, the relationship with china is getting any back to north korea. you know, it's, it's a name, a phone policy challenge with things and go based on is under dave by miller, then thank you bills name and he finds the that's just my personal opinions that so as somebody who thinks about the phone policy on a day to day basis, i think he's been exhaustive for the week, but the us, the thing that's just accelerate to this kind of discussion,

this global discussion about, you know, multi part of the world and how that sort of all the new and some of the staples. so they're looking through the page itself is, is uh, i mean, as, as of a hard hearted kind of list, look at the debates at the black. if he carries on, that makes it more likely he's going to lose nothing on that basis. you know, maybe he should continue a bit longer. but i mean, you know, i certainly hope it's a change of us policy. i mean, i'm not saying, i mean it's a fable trunk, but you know, i certainly had good to biden's not going to be elected. now speaking about the used cars, dental debate, i guess it was a sort of predictable, but i think still shocking. be this your absence of any substantial policy discussion because i think it was all about i'm the best and your the worst from both speakers. and none of them really bothers with providing, you know, detailed analysis of what they're going to do or what was wrong with the opponents policies. now, i guess it's sort of what the americans have uh,

grown to expect. that's what the about the british public is the level of a debate on par with their expectations of an educated choice. i think in the you k, if, if we had um you know, a leader of a political party who is a basically suffering from the size of the dimensions. and then actually the transfer me, i'm not sure it's early at all. i have it right. whatever, whatever savings and that'll be under a different right, other medical expert, but it may, i think the physical system in the u. k. would that she kind of moved that person out and by agent a can of a it says that they can have a tie and actually still have a rest in the end of the the end of the day. so, but i mean, i do, i mean, opposed to going to get as you see, probably called debates, you know, well as the new k ida, um, because you know, the 2 major parties a safe place close together. well, they really all do badges kind of small things on the ages of what happens because they don't have any money to spend anything by the new. nobody can spend

a lot more money and that'd be also to save a lot of money. so they kind of stuck in this kind of middle ground and kind of ongoing eventually, as i said earlier, of what whole comes down to is actually people setup with the conservative party. they've been in of too low and it doesn't matter if kids does bookcase um with bullying, he's probably gonna with anyway. well, uh, i think being stuck in the middle ground is not that bad. i mean, at the end of the day or then there were people are always there and you do something with the little resources and lots of challenges that you face on a daily basis. and i don't see why ballasa full edition should be any different, but i that would be, that would be true if you would also have, you know, debates about some misadventures. adult, you know, if we, if we one day a bachelor's degree would be 100 percent, but of course and beyond that space. yes. let's say speaking with the british politics, it's true that the last few prime ministers in the u. k. i mean they, they all have different appearances, but the policy is,

they pursued or rather they failed to pursue, were uh, pretty much the same. and he has the british politics maybe and just by parents of it makes an impression of being or more open or perhaps more representative of, of wider political choice. you have a number of bodies in the running. what are the chances of long done if not dis, investing itself uh, from the this western uh, very uniform flow into, towards the disaster, but then at least trying to in or steer the boat in a way that would maximize its profits or perhaps minimize the disadvantages for itself, that would be easier if you had more in place in the welcome you have now. i mean our ability to stay or anything is being diminished significant. the last thing about the even steering the, the balance in the world, steering the events within your own country. i mean, diverting a little bit of that attention, rhetorical attention towards you know,

domestic issues that will make you stronger domestically. and perhaps brand is more revenues as well. yeah, no, exactly. i mean, but the company is actually starting to look stronger. now i see what often happens when a government comes to name is a new coverage. inheritance inherits it's at the time when the economy is just starting to improve and get so that he benefit from the economic go, i'd say, i mean outside this on. so that's not a great disney pull and go on the new child sled. i'm grateful these i think it will in the wind. how to, you know, by this into the better shape than it was. but they're still massive challenges that they'd be face. and you know, let's say, i don't know if the dates you know, how well they going to do. i wouldn't buy for conceptual life, but anyway, but so, but let's say a snell. uh, as the rest of them clearly biased and ill will towards the western politicians. but if we look at the reactions to the debate, as well as to the general discourse and the west, coming from the global south, it's pretty clear that people around the world find this style and the substance of politics quite debates. i wonder what influence do you think it may have on the,

you know, international relations more generally? well, i think, you know, what's happening. so even in the break sleeping is very, very important because i'm like the g 7, which is just an explicit club. by the end you talk to kind of the most wealthy countries in that kind of west and the us dominated group. i mean, bricks is trying to kind of go and add this discussion to include all the old countries in the, in the developing world. and the thing that so very interesting area right now in terms of bank street is making sure that so people mask a, you know, less than america, you know, parts of asia, a more involved and these kind of big discussions by go, i mean, that's all you as well, don't worry about this question. so i think the focus is primarily on practical uh, working projects, something that yeah, and i don't deliver rather than being something abbotsford, of course it is. uh, but the point is involved in that why and they have, have a saved and all kept as these kind of small, exclusive clubs. you know, a lot of the do. so the thing that simple and movement as you know, uh,

united people's thoughts going to wait and selves of the belief that we have it in the us. we trust them. we don't need to worry about anything else. and i think, you know, that's, that's a will set me break. so they get is they must of want to walk, said when it's going to 2 decades. well, even if they wanted to trust in the united states, i'm in the have great if they are to do that. i know you're saying the, i'm just saying that, you know, well, and then at the end of the day, i mean, it's uh, sort of the, the exact reverse of, uh, the american soul spyware. i mean, even if you one that'd be associated with it with the west, it's, you know, your own self preservation instinct doesn't let you do that very easily. anyway. it's a proud, it's been great talking to you as always. thank you very much for that. thank you, it's on it. let me see you again and thank you for watching. poke the sir again on the was a part of the, [000:00:00;00]

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