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hello and welcome to cross like boulevard sign. peter lavelle here we discussed some real news, giving peace a chance. and ukraine. why does taking this position in rage, members of the european union, also the u. k. labor party studying victory at the polls? or maybe it wasn't so stunning to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess door to send me well we in budapest, he is a pod cast where the goggle, which means on youtube and locals. and in mirror attached we have martin j. hughes . and award winning journalist and commentator a gentleman cross that rolls in effect, that means he can jump any time you want and i always appreciate it. okay, lets take this off with george in budapest. um the unspeakable apparently was done last week. the driver on the prime minister of you, of hungry, went and made a visit to co uh, gave his thoughts on what's going on, a new cray, but uh ukraine with the i don't know the interim or x or whatever. the title mr. zalinski has now and then he went and visited moscow and that the european union
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are many voices, almost identical, voices short circuited. you're not supposed to do that. you will have no right to do that. well, you hungry is the president of the rotating presidency. but from what i can tell it to arbor, went there as the prime minister of hungry n. wait in. and did he in a big way, george, your thoughts on the whole fiasco, at least from the western perspective. what do you think you're actually on the right feet that it is quite extraordinary that we were living in this time when an aspiration to piece. and this has been a consistent stream of or binds from the beginning from february 2022, which is this is a will that makes no sense and it needs to be brought to a land as swiftly as possible. so this tend to act maybe as a mediator, maybe to facilitate some kinds of negotiation, some sort of a piece compress the this should arouse futile rate. that's the,
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basically this range. i mean, it's all just simply saying, well, it easy to use the, you know, this, but with the time it isn't quite right or whatever, it will be just in range, send them so much. so that's from the german foreign minister on the you know, bad luck was scheduled to visit hunger a on monday as her visit has been cancelled hungry. a said we don't want you here. they all know major loss. so maybe like a when we don't want to listen to a harangue from do because she made clear that she was going to be rate hungry is leave those and, and so now with it and we were coming in next week to this a big need. those 70 parents, the birthday party. and what's going to be said there is we are the usual belligerent. so we have to stick with ukraine. have to do more for your brain. ukraine will be a member of nato, the same claptrap that is going to nato and the,
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and, and the well nowhere but that, that's the program. so in any time somebody who does that, you're trying to do something, they favor that. there's a lot of, let's just do everything that we've been doing before because it's been so successful. yeah, well i mean more than in the counter veiling trends that are going on here. we have this ridiculous bar city in switzerland, the ukraine peace conference, or whatever it was called a complete fiasco. we then we have other, but i'm going at the very least the talk to both leaders. so it means that there's a channel of communication. even that is up for into a and george is absolutely right. you know, with the upcoming nato comes up 75th birth birthday and you know, things that are 75 years old, usually retired by then, but not nato, not joe biden. and they're going to tell you claim a can join the alliance. so i mean one person, one adult in the rooms stood up and said, how do we make sense of bliss and how can we move forward? that gets them into a lot of trouble. martin? yeah, how do we make sense of it?
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um, through dialogue and that's the very thing that a you claims that it likes to support the agrees to and very much encourages on the one condition that the dialogue is framed within the same amount of his own ideas. my deal is, you know, olden is broken ranks, i mean only the 6 months presidencies in brussels, you know, they are going to promote exercise really. i mean, the country that has the presidency chairs with main meetings, whether it's finance with this agricultural one about and the ministers are shipped . uh, and they usually take advantage of that 6 month period to do some horse trading to sign a spotlight on some of the draw drunk directives which are being amended, which should be a meant to, to an gina, to the needs and requirements. nothing like this is there a home before or done is really broken or rang, sees from the rule book. um you know, of the window now is behaving really like a leader of a silver and country and put in his own country 1st. and to take this initiative,
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which he said he's just told general is i think that, um, no other country is in this position. you know, i'm probably the only one there. the hunger is in the country can do this. but to take the initiative to try and at least at least get a ceasefire, agreed and then see if we can move from the seas for to tools. you know that it should be encouraged as a sensible thing to do. but um, nobody in the, in, in the wall machine, you know, the corrupt western lee as long as this. and um, i have a feeling that he's going to take advantage of the 6 month presidency and do this on a weekly basis. i'm assuming he's going to really hijacked the entire you at least machine and for his own purposes. and we'll see where that goes. i mean the night to birthday party one way we want to cool it is already looking like a fiasco. yeah. um, because we have question box, we have a with a button is gonna make it to um, to the it, to his own presidency. and now we got a new labor government in the u. k which,
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which is already hopping on about not respecting the previous agreement of 2.5 percent g d, p for defense spending. that's going to be a real fly in the only month full for nato leaders. what are they going to celebrate? so, you know, you know, but charge, i mean, again i, i, it's very few places. so this is one place that we talk about peace, how do we get to piece that that, that discourse is non existent. ok. and, and, and again, we had a president vladimir putin. he presented a starting point for negotiations. it wasn't the end point is we can start from business position. we don't go if we need to go through all the points right now. well i, i'm just completely bewildered. why nato slash edu slash by the administration and say, okay, we, well, we'll pony up. this is where we want to start going. okay. they won't even do that . they just go back to this r k. a 10 point plan that apparently is zalinski is i'm sure was written in in london or washington. um, uh, you know, they, this is this,
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this defying any kind of attempt to resolve this. i mean, and we're all to that, went through the elections we had with the, in the, within the european union, we don't see or talk of mobilization war economy. these are all craven choices. a hey, you get upset or anything either because the position of the you a nate, so the united states risk is an absolute as well. and i mean, the position is written down to the pre 1991 borders. but how are they going to achieve this? i mean, that means a will forever. i mean, either it is just a total forever. and that's one of the tools from macro and others of and the germans on the british to attend to that is of conscription and, and so sending more and more weapon rate the ukraine a little as you're planning to for this, for the next decade or so. and it's quite remarkable how when it comes to these
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really looking gaza, but with a sincerely will know they will talk about c spy, what we needed to see what we have that was seized by a we have a c. so if we have a few minutes here and reasons that haven't achieved that it and you can doesn't who wonder whether they've been this sincere about it. but i believe they say we need, we need to cease fire. we need some, you know, a negotiate that outcome to save the solution, whatever. here it's just an absolute display, which is regular. we need, you need to keep this war going, no matter how destructive is that this is. so you know, it's just some vague and you know, aspiration that the stolen book declared has a news conferences just to show, well maybe it was a p 0. well, the more we weapons we sent are you great in the file? so we get to the piece of storks if you don't totally know empirical bases whatsoever. and then once you're safe or bottom is also up with an op ed in news. we in which he has said may though he is a will machine though they said, well,
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we joined it because we thought it was a piece of drug defense and so on. so, but it is now a goal making machine. we get them, we have, we have the numbers, other will making machine and that, and that is exactly up in the when and at this uh birthday party. that's what the major is going to be celebrating. that's, you know, we're, we're going to keep as we're going in the, to a day. the respect of us that you need to be don't, you're right, judge the main thing, you know, with the latest reason why you claim won't be given. membership is, it's, the country is to corrupt as if they suddenly realize that, okay, i mean, way, before all of this the, the, the levels of corruption were legendary as the buying family. they know a lot about that. okay. so, but, you know, it's the martin, this is like a birthday party celebrating somebody, an intensive care. okay. and there's no lifting that her glasses, you know, you know, we don't want the patient to die, but we're not going to do it. we're not going to do any kind of intervention to
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save. it is really quite pathetic. and again, why the training and leadership goes along with this. the only reason i can explain is that they're lining their pockets. and i'm too cynical martin, as to think you're right, it's going to be right. that's the only logical reason, you know, in the last week missing reports. now those incidents whose wives spending, what was it $5000000.00 and they've got to, you know, i mean, these kind of reports that come through just keep on us of them and unassuming, loveless money. and of all this equipment is going missing. and honestly, what's the latest now or even denying this anymore? you know, i think they basically, except to this is, this is both of the course. you know, you have to accept the good part of this, this, this, this bounty is gonna end up in the pockets of, of the, of the cabal of, of us let's these people on himself. so i think uh, you know, in that respect, nothing changes but you know, the idea is the ukraine company, gr, onto that drawn to membership of late. so, because it's too corrupt is,
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it reminds you of that scene in casablanca, you know, where the police chief is closing down the hotel. and as it, as always chaos is going on behind him. you know, a, he says to rick is disgraceful, you know, temper and going home, you know, and then somebody comes up to him and gives them a lot of cash is bungie, you know? and it sits on the same saying, isn't it, you know, you go to corrupt, to join made. so by the way, here's another $100000000000.00 to carry on. you know, it is a lot of confused mixed messages. and really, as i said earlier to you a few, a couple of months ago, you know, when we talked about the nature, but they brought to, you know, a lot of a lot of b s. and let us take news now is going to be presented to throughout this entire subject. but you know, where do we go? where does this will this leading it was? i'm, i'm george, i'm looking forward to biden's. um, um, um speech at the, at the con, con fab go ahead. george spent 40 seconds to probably go to the right. well, yes. done. but interestingly, the, there's this issue that, well, we can't um, bring a ukraine in. uh denise at this moment because then he raises an expression. well,
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when he few cones, then why don't you just bring this war to an end? i mean, if you call and if you ask, what is it saying? would you call and realize your condition? who will talk about, you know, the road too late, the membership is open, then bring it to an end. what is the point of continuing along with it? well i, i just showed out, well, what we part of ukraine will eventually get into that a to, because of it's just, it's dissolving in front of our eyes and they're watching it. and obviously the boss of, of, of soldiers is the risk big gentleman, i'm going to jump in and here in a way to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion of some real new stay with our to the the, the
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the welcome asked across the boulevard in san peter little here. we just have some really, really change gears. a more we had a, an election in the u. k. it was widely expected that labor would do very well. it did very well. but if you scratched just a little bit into the numbers here, it's not the kind of big tree, but um, obviously labor is claiming, and of course, the other center of a sudden you're of and the united sega, this is the way it's gotta be done. okay. but if you go to the 2nd, 3rd, 4th layers of the numbers, it's not their victory that it appears to be, pardon me, it's no and that's because we have this outdated, draconian, and frankly, a weird voting system in the u. k which we cool for us post the post. and this particular system allows label to win by quite a huge majority,
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but actually only took 34 percent of the entire vote. so um, you know, it, it, it's, it's outdated, it hasn't worked very long time, but it creates these cooks. so in this particular time i come, i mean a kid kiss thomas, sorry, got to. i'm actually less loose. and jeremy cool button in 2017, which is quite remarkable. and we will hoping that it would open the floodgates for number of smaller policies. um, i think the live dentist did incredibly well. but in terms of french parties, you know, search bodies got 5 seats. this is very, very low number of seats, but it's a critical amount of votes. so shed some light, 14 percent, which the new kinds of government is basically forced to work with him now. so, you know, the timeline now really is to look 5 years ahead. unexpected coalition between file just bucks and the conservative a new conservative bobsy. in the meantime, really, we can't really expect so much change. you've, you know,
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you've got the policies between these 2 policies. we're really not that different when we look at a bigger scale, international stories, you know, from policy, in many ways, the cigarette paper between the 2 of them, you know, perhaps style i might be forced into reducing a defense spending. i'm putting back on ukraine simply because it's going to over spend on just about everything else. i mean that's what labor comes. do they get into power in the 1st 100 days? they just spend to spend to spend them, you know, like lunatics without and yeah, but i mean, one of the things, i mean from a far here george to mean what is so conservative about the tories these days and what it is. so i'm left about labor in the u. k. i mean it's, i don't see the ideological, okay. you can have, you know, um the, the woke element and, and all of that with the labor and all of that. but they, me, but even then we have the tories and we had, you know, boy scouts and kind of channeling his inner femininity. i don't remember the exact phrase, but i mean something like that. and they were unified completely on foreign policy
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. um, what is this the difference? i mean, this is what i think voters are very disgusted with because they got discuss it with the personalities of the, of the, of the conservative party. and they really, we mean, was almost like a, you know, high school cafeteria and, and i don't, you know, when the, when labor's coming in, you know, with their agenda and all that, i don't see it a whole lot of different or no, it really isn't any really, it's under a different set that there isn't any difference and, and that's why i think labor is going to run into a lot of trouble very quickly. because as monday and pointed out, the numbers suggest that there was no in susie as i'm whatsoever for labor. i mean it, cuz it's not just the labor one fuels though it's then they want me to 2019 that that 2019 election would lead to the of the else the of um, generally cool. been um and um and then so this book is because this lack of
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popularity and he went in and kissed phone was own constituency. 2019. and you have the majority of 28000. that's gone down to 7000 subjects. 128th of the 7000 majority. it is up. imagine a triumphant lead to marching his troops into uh, 10000 states. and he gets this massive a vote against them. he and his own constituents, it. and so what's really happened is that, that the end of the sofa and right and, well, the bar is johnson putting on this fake populace conservatism and $29.00 c. and he broke through you know, more or less of a traditional labor areas. and these are all, this is a new kind of populace conservatism in terms of because boston and all the way. but in those constituencies, reform is now set him to late. but. and so that's something where you're looking for raj is clever and skillful. that's where he should focus. so that is the be very important here because the vote and most of the voters who voted for breakfast
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. i'm not going to be happy with labor was planned to cozy up and make nice with the bab of and you know, to push all the, the agenda. ned 0 basically getting, you know, thinking of a liberal stance on, on the immigration. then i'm going to go for the paper and then they go to turn and that's what reform chip man. so that's what that's about a $105.00 constituents is that's a, that's a $105.00 that the reform should win. and so next time around could result would be a very significant up. that's the most important number to add of the entire election is the number of times the reform party came in 2nd mark who is the new prime minister of the u. k. um, so what it, when i hear his name, i think of how he was part of the disgraceful campaign against julian. a sorry um and and uh we had uh, stabbed uh, jeremy carmen in the back. and now he's just
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a deep stave. operative okay, do you? oh, and he's like human rights to advocate, you know, really, really what are actually actually he's the, he's the left is the center left new version of course johnson and he is a prolific lyle. he actually goes back on almost everything to be says just as well as johnson does, did. so i think we're going to have to get used to that. but the 1st on today's an office and he was gonna be a massive anticlimax. and in britain you said, who is, who is this guy? he is many things so many people, but what worries me is his proximity. it's there as well. you know, he's really a puppet of design, is regime and we're going to see a lot of people proceed on his route. we're going to the, they've already wheeled out. david, allow me possibly the most stupid man in british politics for a long time. who is in the say and stuff, and that's said somebody who is prep us done. i'm why is it been wheeled out? because i think that's going to be a must have a delusion solution here,
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we are going to pretend to be gunning for a series for an, an, a 2 state solution. but in reality, we're going to be doing just as bind it is supporting design is even more to carry on with the to, to work in the, in the genocide. so it's going to be a false. it's going to be a lot of fake news and people are going to be, i'm going to the believing that this is new. tell me which cares about. the other thing is when it doesn't a tool, but i think that the economy is not going to be boosted simply by a goodwill fact. you know, a good, a good feeling and button that we've got change coming into people in person won't change, but they didn't really know what kind of change they wanted. and so you had a protest vote. a big purchase vote was people not voting as a whole. lot of people stayed at home, another protest, but it was the low to raise to vote. labor just to send a message to the right party that you've got 5 years to shape up, you know? but i mean, how long can stomach and keep the shine on this. you know, i imagine not much longer than the 1st year in office when the policies start
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failing and labor results to it's tried and tested method in short to stay in office politics, which is the high taxes. and that's what we're going to see in the okay. you know, and we're gonna, we're going to be overtime. so going to be like an e u member stay like from so geometry, right, like taxes. and this will put more pressure for change to come about. it won't bring in basically raising taxes that just destroys business. you know, if people have got less money to spend an ice feed that to, to, to us, for an investors, you know, basically our economy is, is heading towards the best. george. i mean, again, we the, we don't really see it, the policy alternatives are getting more and more narrow, even tory governments player. you know, what, there's breaks it, you know, that ways bell basically because of the mostly because of immigration. but since breaks immigration is just increased, i mean, i mean, you know, it doesn't matter who you're getting put in power. you get the same government you
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do, and that's uh, behind the tours were rejected. so resoundingly, and, and of course, believe it has no plan for immigration. i mean, literally shows the sort of the biggest issue in the u. k. offer obviously the economy and we've done, it's just terrible because you know, the conditions are really, you know, uh, prices of grosses and everything else. but this is a huge issue and i believe it has absolutely no idea what, what they going to do about it. and so that's why they're going to run into the, you know, most problems immediately. and then money comes to ukraine. let me look at how many times, just in the 1st 24 hours of the victory of style. and then they will allow me to bring up ukraine. why, why they took my degree and it just me a general election year. you were saying, you know, you want to use the spelling of what are the top type things we're going to be doing for the british people. and it said that talking about the rent i agree with when my hot and david allow me is a very, very stupid man,
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and he is going to be the front man. i mean that that's, that's what i think a james cleverly because his breed assessor as part of the secretary, like you basically put them forward. they don't, they don't people have any power over there, essentially to show. well, we're really committed, you know, to diversity. you know we, we want to have such a wide range of people in the district. so her wonderful british life is and anybody can make it to the top. but basically, um sama given his wife given his his own background is going to be a very, very pro zion, as a prime minister. and, and they go to pursue this, you credit and policy, which is very, i'm kind of taylor and it is going to be immediate. i'm going to be the 1st by election in under the sky. the government is going to be a huge rejection of style and so he really doesn't have any real agend. i mean, you call me when you move. i love nothing like totally blair in 197 or anything like that. there's no mandate there. and so it's just the rejection and of the
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tories. well, i mean, come aren't one of the, one of the thing, good things that came out of the electra, the entire, almost the entire front bench of the tories are gone up. the young people i've known for years, you know, um i don't know how to contact them and say, sorry, you know that just sitting from the tvs now watching um, dates on television, what do they want to do with their lives but powerful big people. people who really to make decisions and, and what game changes you know, they, it's, but i think the public enough to reinvent it. so i think, but i think, i think to pick up george's point about reform reform is certainly a punches a could grow very quickly. in the next 5 years and it could be something huge and, and in the next, in the next election and the, it's inevitable when these policies start to fail on sale of foster pace. that for right votes increased dramatically. and uh, as george says, stumbles got no policy, a tool for integration, thousands of people of crossing the channel from,
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from seeing these bows. well, i mean, george, for the a, the martin from the outside looking in. the only thing i keep hearing about is ukraine. that's, that's it. well, i think they've jumped on the media. so trick of, you know, deflecting john to this away from the me and maybe because they're packing their bags to go to the nato summit. okay, gentleman, that's all the time we have one to thank my guessing in budapest and america. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our to see you next time. remember across apples, the the
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