just always you can throwing up with us. let's just sponsor, excuse me, just go out. i don't even want for you to go where you need the course to just going into the see it is done with this. i think 0. this was was self employed. so sort of the, the hello and welcome to cross like bullhorn sign peter a little here we discussed some real news giving peace a chance. and ukraine, why does taking this position in rage, members of the european union, also the u. k. labor party studying victory at the polls, or maybe it wasn't so stunning to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan, send me while we in budapest, he is

a pod cast where the guy go, which means on youtube and locals. and in mirror attached we have martin j. hughes and award winning journalist and commentator a gentleman cross that goes in effect. that means you can jump any time you want and i would appreciate it. okay, let's kick this off with george in budapest, i'm. the unspeakable apparently was done last week that you're around the prime minister of you, of hungry went and made a visit to care of uh, gave his thoughts on what's going on. a new kraber ukraine with the, i don't know the interim or x or whatever the title mr. zalinski has now. and then he went and visited moscow and that the european union, or many voices, almost identical voice is short circuited. you're not supposed to do that. you will have no right to do that. well, you hungry is the president of the rotating presidency. but from what i can tell you over went there as the prime minister of hungry in wait in. and did he in

a big way, george, your thoughts on the whole fiasco, at least from the western perspective. what do you think you're actually on the right the that it is quite extraordinary that we were living in this time when an aspiration for peas. and this has been the consistency name of or binds from the beginning from february 2022, which is this is a rule but makes no sense and it needs to be brought to a land as swiftly as possible. so this the tend to act maybe as a mediator, maybe to facilitate some kinds of negotiation, some sort of a piece compress the this should arouse futile rate. that's me. and basically this range, i mean, it's all just simply saying, well, it isn't, you know, this, but with the time isn't quite right or whatever. it will be just in range then them the, so much. so that's from the german foreign minister on the you know, bad luck was scheduled to visit hunger

a on um monday as her visit has been cancelled hungry. i said we don't want you here the mail, no major loss. so maybe like a, we don't want to listen to a harangue from do because she made clear that if she was going to be rate hungry is leave those and, and so now with it and we were coming in next week to this a big need. those 70 parents, the birthday party. and what's going to be said there is we are the usual belligerent, so we have to stick with ukraine up to do more for your brain. ukraine will be a member of nato, the same claptrap that is going to nato and the, and, and the, well nowhere but that, that's the program. so, you know, you've been somebody who is that you're trying to do something they favor that is or not, or let's just do everything that we've been doing before because it's been so successful. yeah, well i mean more than in the counter veiling trends that are going on here. we have this, we ridiculous far city in switzerland,

the ukraine peace conference or whatever it was called a complete fiasco. we then we have other, but i'm going at the very least, the talk to both leaders. so it means that there's a channel of communication even that is up for into and george is absolutely right . you know, with the upcoming nato concept 75th birthday and you know, things that are 75 years old, usually retire by then, but not nato, not joe biden, and they're going to tell you, claimant can join the alliance. so i mean one person, one adult in the rooms stood up and said, how do we make sense implicitly, how can we move forward that gets them into a lot of trouble. martin? yeah. how do we make sense of it? um, through dialogue and that's the very thing that a you claims that it likes to support the agrees to and very much encourages on the one condition that the dialogue is framed within the same amount of as his own ideas. my deal is, you know, olden is broken ranks. i mean only the 6 months presidencies in brussels, you know,

they are on to promote exercise really. i mean, the country that has the presidency says with main meetings, whether it's finance with this agricultural one about and administer as a ship to. and they usually take advantage of that 6 month period to do some horse trading to sign a spotlight on some of the draw drunk directives which are being amended where which should be amended to an gina to the needs and requirements. nothing like this . is there a home before or been has really broken or rang, sees thrown, the rulebook, you know, of the window now is behaving really like a leader of a silver in country and putting his own country 1st and to take this initiative, which he said is just told general is i think that no other country is in this position. you know, i'm probably the only one there. the hunger is in the country can do this. but to take the initiative to try and at least at least get a ceasefire, agreed and then see if we can move policies for the tools. you know that it should

be in cairo is just a sensible thing to do. but them, nobody in the, in, in the wall machine, you know, the corrupt western lee is warms this and, um, i have a feeling that he's going to take advantage of the 6 month presidency. and do this on a weekly basis. i have a feeling he's gonna really hijacked the entire you at least machine and for his own purposes. and we'll see where that goes. i mean the night so, but i say probably what if you want to cool it is already looking like a fiasco. yeah. um, because we have question box, we have a with a button is gonna make it to um, to the, to his own presidency. and now we got a new labor government in the u. k, which, which has ordered a hopping on about not respecting the previous agreement of 2.5 percent g d, p for defense spending. that's going to be a real fly in the ointment full for nato leaders. what are they going to celebrate? so, you know, you know, but george, i mean, again i, i, it's very few places. so this is one place that we talk about peace,

how do we get to piece that that, that discourse is non existent. ok. and, and, and again, we had a president vladimir putin. he presented a starting point for negotiations. it wasn't the end point is we can start from business position, we don't go, we need to go through all the points right now. well i, i'm just completely bewildered why nato slash edu slash by the administration and say, okay, we, well, we'll pony up. this is where we want to start going. okay. they won't even do that . they just go back to this r k, a 10 point plan that apparently is zalinski is i'm sure was written in in london or washington. um, uh, you know, they, this is this, this defying any kind of attempt to resolve this. i mean, and we're all to that, went through the elections we had with the, in the, within the european union, we don't see or talk of mobilization war economy. these are all craven choices or

hey, you get episode or anything either because um the position of the you and they to the united states, there is an absolute as well. and i mean the position is uh, written down to the pre 1991 borders. but how are they going to achieve this? i mean, that means it will forever. i mean, either it is just a total forever. and that was the tool from macro and all those. okay. and the germans and the british to attend to that. and it's of conscription and, and so sending more remove weapon rate the ukraine, although as you're planning to for this, for the next decade or so. and it's quite remarkable how when it comes to this, really when you guys are, but with a sincerely or no they will talk about c spy. what we need to see is what we have that was seized by a we have a slightly over a few minutes earlier than reason. they haven't achieved it. and you can doesn't wonder whether they've been this sincere about it. but i believe they say we need, we need to cease fire. we need some eel on the go. said that outcome to save the

solution, whatever. here it's just an absolute display, which is regular. we need, you need to keep this war going. no matter how destructive is the, this is and so, you know, it's just some vague and you know, aspiration that the stolen book declared has a news conferences just to show, well, nato is a p 0. well, the more we weapons we send to you grand in the file, so we get to the piece of storks if you don't totally know empirical bases whatsoever. and then what's your say or bottom is also written an op ed in news we in which he has said may though he is a war machine though they said, well, we joined it because we thought it was a piece of drug defense and so on. so, but it is now a goal making machine. we get them. we have women, amber's other will making machine and that, and that is exactly of the night when and at this birthday party. that's what the major is going to be celebrating. that's, you know, we're, we're going to keep us will going in the, to

a day. the respect of us that you need to be don't, you're right, judge the main thing, you know, with the latest reason why you quit and won't be given. membership is, it's, the country is to corrupt as if they suddenly realize that, okay, i mean, way, before all of this the, the, the levels of corruption were legendary as the buying family. they know a lot about that. okay. so, but, you know, it's the martin, this is like a birthday party celebrating somebody, an intensive care. okay. and there's no lifting that her glasses, you know, you know, we don't have the patients to die, but we're not going to do it. we're not going to do any kind of intervention to save it. it is really quite pathetic. and again, why the training and leadership goes along with is the only reason i can make really explain is that they're lining their pockets. and i'm too cynical martin, that doesn't you're right. it's going to be right. that's the only logical reason, you know, in the last week, missing reports. now, as of, as his wives spending,

what was it $5000000.00 and they've got to see, you know, i mean these kind of reports that come through, just keep on a firm and unassuming level as money. and a lot of this equipment is going missing and i don't say what's the latest now or even denying this anymore. you know, i think they basically, except to this is, this is bulk of the course. you know, you have to accept the good part of this, this, this, this bounty is gonna end up in the pockets of the, of the, of the cabal of, of us. let's use people on himself. so i think uh, you know, in that respect, nothing changes but you know, the idea is the ukraine company, gr, onto that drums and membership of late. so, because it's too corrupt is, it reminds you of that scene in casablanca, you know, where the police chief is closing down the hotel, and as it, as his own, is chaos, is going on behind him. you know, he says to rick is disgraceful. you know temperament going home, you know, and then somebody comes up to him and gives him a lot of cash is bone, you know, and it sits on the same saying, isn't it? you know, you go to corrupt. there's only nights. so by the way,

here's another $100000000000.00 to carry on. you know, it is a lot of confused mixed messages. and really, as i said earlier to you a few, a couple of months ago, you know, when we talked about the nature, but they brought to, you know, a lot of a lot of the apps and let us take news now is going to be presented to in trout, this entire subset, but you know, where do we go? where does this will this leading a logic i'm? i'm george, i'm looking forward to biden's. um, um, um speech at the, at the account. uh. com. fab. go ahead george. but 40 seconds we probably go to the right. well, yes. done. but interest thing the, the, there's this issue that, well, we can't um, bring the ukraine in. uh, just at this moment because then he raises an expression. well, when he few cones, then why don't you just bring this war to an end? i mean, if you call and if you ask, what is it saying that you call and realize your condition and who will talk about, you know, the road to nato membership is open, then bring it to an end. what is the point of continuing along with it?

well, i, i just know now what, what we part of ukraine will eventually get into that a to, because of, it's just, it's dissolving in front of our eyes and they're watching it. and obviously the boss of, of, of soldiers is the risk. i gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here and we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion of some real new. stay with our team, the, to take a fresh look around as a life kaleidoscopic. isn't just a shifted reality distortion by tell us to do vision with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse really one say better wills. and is it

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twist, which is the welcome mazda, across the boulevard in san peter little here, we just have somebody on this. let's change gears a more. we had a, an election in the u. k. it was widely expected that labor would do very well. it did very well, but i did the scratch just a little bit into the numbers here. it's not the kind of big tree, but um, obviously labor is claiming. and of course, the other center of a sudden you're of, and the united sega, this is the way it's gotta be done, okay. but if you go to the 2nd, 3rd, 4th layers of the numbers,

it's not their victory that it appears to be, pardon? it's no and that's because we have this outdated, decoding in and frankly, a weird voting system in the u. k, which we call 1st post opposed. and this particular system allows labor to win by quite a huge majority, but actually only took 34 percent of the and time loads. so um, you know, it, it, it's, it's outdated, it hasn't worked very long time, but it creates these cooks. so in this particular time, i come and get a kiss, thomas, sorry, got to actually list those in. jeremy colburn in 2017, which is good. quite remarkable. and we were hoping that it would open the floodgates for number of smaller policies. um, i think the live dentist did incredibly well, but in terms of french parties, you know, fairly well. he's got 5 a seats. this is very, very low number of seats, but it's a critical amount of votes, a shed, some light, 14 percent, which the new kinds of government is basically forced to work with him now. so you

know the timeline now really is to look 5 years ahead. unexpected coalition between so just bucks and the conservative a new conservative policy in the meantime, really, we can't really expect so much change you've, you know, you've got that the policies between these 2 policies were really not that different. when we looked at a bigger scale, international stories, you know, foreign policy, in many ways, the cigarette paper between the 2 of them, you know, perhaps some i might be forced into reducing and defense spending. i'm putting back on ukraine simply because it's going to over spend on just about everything else and means what labor comes do they get into power in the 1st 100 days? they just spend to spend to spend them, you know, like lunatics without and yeah, but i mean, one of the things, i mean from a far here george to mean what is so conservative about the tories these days and what it is. so i'm left about labor in the u. k. i mean it's the, i don't see the ideological okay. you can have, you know, um, um,

the woke element and, and all of that with the labor and all of that. but they, me, but even then we have the tories, the, we had, you know, boy scouts and kind of channeling his inner femininity. i don't remember the exact phrase, but i mean, something like that. and the unified completely on foreign policy. what do you, is the difference? i mean, this is what i think voters are very discussing with because like i discuss it with the personalities of the, of the, of the conservative party. and they were, they were, you know, mean was almost like a, you know, high school cafeteria and, and i don't, you know, when the, when labor's coming in, you know, with their agenda and all that, i don't see it a whole lot of different. a no, is there a way that really isn't any really exciting the difference? there isn't any difference and, and that's why i think the label is going to run into a lot of trouble very quickly. because as monday and pointed out, the numbers suggest that there was no in susie as i'm whatsoever for labor. i mean

it cuz it's not just the labor one few of votes, then they want me to 2019 that that 2019 election would lead to the uh, the else the oh um jeremy cold and um and um and then so this book is because this lack of popularity and he went in and kissed tom as own constituency. 2019. and he had the majority of 28000. that's going down to 7000 subjects, 128000 of the 7000 majority. these are imagine a triumphant leader marching his troops into uh, 10000 states, and he gets this massive a vote against them. he and his own constituents, it. and so what's really happened is that, that uh, in the soho and right and, well, the bar is johnson putting on this fake populace conservatism and 29 c. and he broke through, you know, more or less of a traditional labor areas. and we are all, this is a new kind of populace conservatism in terms of what goes boston and all the way.

but in those constituencies, roof cool is now the same to late, but i, so that's something where, you know, if our ours is clever and skillful, that's where he should focus all the is the be very important here because of those, those, the voters who voted for breakfast, i'm not going to be happy with labor was planned to cozy up and make nice with the babble. and, you know, to push all the, the agenda, ned 0 basically getting, you know, taking a liberal stance on, on the immigration. then i'm going to go for the negative turn and that's what reform chip man. so that's what that's about a $105.00 constituents is that's a, that's a $105.00 that the reform should win. and so that's not a wrong, couldn't refund, would be a very significant up. that's the most important number out of the entire election is the number of times the reform party came in 2nd mark, who is the new prime minister of the u. k. um, so what it,

when i hear his name, i think of how he was part of the disgraceful campaign against julian. a, sorry um and and uh we had uh stab the jeremy carman in the back. and now he's just a deep stave. operative okay, do you? oh and he's like human rights. so advocate, you know, really, really what are actually actually he's the, he's the, let's is the center less new version of course, johnson and he is a prolific lyle. he actually goes back on almost everything to be says just as well as johnson does, did. so i think we're going to have to get used to that. but the 1st on today's office, and it was gonna be a massive anticlimax in the in britain. you said who is, who is this guy? you know, he's many things to many people, but what worries me is his proximity to as well. you know, he's really a puppet of design, is regime and we're going to see a lot of him focusing on his route. we're going to the,

they've already wheeled out to david, allow me possibly the most stupid man in british politics for a long time. who is in the say and stuff, and that's said somebody who is prep us time. i'm why is it been wheeled out? because i think that's going to be a must have a delusion solution here. we're going to pretend to be gunning for a series for an, an, a 2 state solution. but in reality we're going to be doing just as bind it is supporting design is even more to carry on with the, to, to work in the, in the genocide. so it's going to be a false, it's going to be a lot of fake news and people are going to be, i'm going to the believing that this is new come, which cares about. the other thing is when it doesn't a tool. but i think that the economy is not going to be boosted simply by a, a goodwill fact. you know, a good, a good feeling and button that we've got to change coming into people in person won't change, but they didn't really know what kind of change they wanted. and so you had a protest vote. a big participate was people not voting. a whole lot of people stayed at home, another protest, but it was the last to raise to vote. labor just to send

a message to the right party that you've got 5 years to shape up, you know? but i mean, how long can stomach and keep the sign on this, you know, i imagine not much stronger than the 1st year in office when the policy stopped failing and labor results to it's tried and tested method in short to stay in office politics, which is the high taxes, and that's what we're going to see in the okay. you know, and we're gonna, we're going to be overtime. so going to be like an e u members stay like from so geometry, right? i taxes. and this will put more pressure for change to come about. it won't bring in basically raising taxes that just destroys business. you know, if people have got less money to spend an ice feed that to, to, to us, for an investors, you know, basically we, our economy is, is heading towards the best, george. i mean, again, we, the, we don't really, 6 is the policy alternatives are getting more and more narrow, even tory governments play or, you know, what, there's breaks it, you know,

that was bell basically because of the, mostly because of immigration. but since breaks immigration is just increased, i mean, it doesn't matter who you're getting quoting power, you get the same government, you do. and that's why the tories were rejected. so resoundingly, and, and of course, believe it has no plan for immigration. i need to be to research the sort of the biggest issue in the u. k. off are obviously the economy and we've done. it's just terrible because you know, the conditions are really, you know, uh, prices of grosses and everything else. but this is a huge issue and then leave, it has absolutely no idea what, what they going to do about it. and so that's why they're going to run into the numerous problems immediately. and then money comes to ukraine. let me look at how many times, just in the 1st 24 hours of the victory of style, and then they will allow me to bring up ukraine. why,

why they took my degree and it just me a general election year. you were saying, you know, you want to be the spelling of what are the top 5 things we're going to be doing for the british people. and it said that talking about your grant. i agree with, with my hop in david allow me is a very, very stupid man, and he is going to be the front man. i mean that, that's, that's what i think a james cleverly because his breed assessment spurn secretary. like you basically put them full when they don't, they don't people have any power over there, essentially to show, well, we're really committed, you know, to diversity. you know, we, we want to have such a wide range of people in the district. so her wonderful british life is and anybody can make it to the top. but basically the sama given his wife given he is a, his own background is going to be a very, very pro zion is uh, the prime minister. and, and they go to pursue this, you create policy, which is very, i'm kind of taylor and it is going to be immediate. i'm going to be the 1st by election in under the sky. the government is going to be

a huge rejection of style. and so he really doesn't have any real agend. i mean, you call me when you move, but nothing, nothing like totally blair in 197 or anything like that. there's no mandate here. and so it's just a rejection. and of the tories? well, i mean, martin, one of the, one of the thing good things that came out of the electra, the entire, almost the entire front bench of the tories are gone up. the young people i've known for years. you know, um, i don't know how to contact them and say so right now they're just sitting in front of the tvs now watching um, dates on television, wondering what to do with their lives. but powerful big people. people who really to make decisions and. and what game changes, you know, they, it's been, i think the public enough to reinvent. so i think, but i think, i think to pick up george's point about reform reform is certainly a punches a could grow very quickly in the next 5 years. and it could be something huge and, and in the next, in the next election and the,

it's inevitable when these policies start to fail on fail at a faster pace that for right votes increased dramatically. and uh, as george says, storm has got no policy, a tool for integration, thousands of people across the channel from, from seeing these bows. well, i mean, george from the a, the martin from the outside looking in the only thing i keep hearing about is ukraine. but that's it, as well. i think i have jumped on the media. so trick of you know, deflecting john is away from the game. it may be because they're packing their bags to go to the nato summit. ok, gentlemen, that's all the time we have one. i think my guess in budapest and america and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. all righty. so you next time? remember across apples the hi. i'm rick sanchez and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my

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