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the, the the take a look what happened the old from civil lives in the past. the nation attempt was addressing thousands is which is during a volley in pennsylvania to any of that. he describes what happened. i knew immediately that something was wrong in that i heard whizzing sound shots and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin, much bleeding took place. so i realized then what was happening. god bless america . this you to who took a mcdonald, trump is dead. the secret service adds the suspect titans also lost his mind during the attack. however, joe biden failed to cool. it's an assassination attempt. i
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don't know enough to i, i've seen you, but i don't have any facts. so i want to make sure we have all the facts before i make some kind of reactions coming from across the us political spectrum. however, the question remains was this previously in with criticism, then you go to protest, then you go to in peace for now you go to indictment and know the work. what's next to me you to grasp it out, man. were speeding towards that nation obviously. and no one will say that, but i don't remember how you can reach that conclusion. the this is dorothy international coming to line from us did use in most go, thanks very much for joining us based our as well. we're going to start with the breaking news from the us. this is the time till the life of donald from that has
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taken place. and of course, one of his naturally escaped from take a look. what happened? well, he is a very moment that that happened. some speech stopped in its tracks. he was instantly done surrounded by his security service detail, providing a code to him for the former president, but beloved from the short piece to a covering the right side of his face and from then held up a face to pump it in the air in defiance. before laughter, the security guards school of the stage, the security secret service says the former president is now safe and we have of course heard from him. the one spec, tate that was killed and 2 others was critically injured during that shooting. the shoot uh was located and then killed by law enforcement agents. here's how
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a witness describes what happened. it's more like what we heard all. it's rattling around the grandstand, one hit. this would be through our 1st laughter or heard this just got fired then hydro in the line was spraying all around the drawing soon coming out of it and then another shot here. so i mean it wasn't the flag, right? because i mean, they weren't, they weren't super loud. they were, they were here as well as into the ammunition land and it won't matter. and then we just kind of took over behind us through the form, talk to them the
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saw him. ok. let's go to live 9. so you all these correspond to kayla more than uh, caleb, just want you to bring this up today with uh, what's happening in terms of the latest on the shooting. the says the attempted assassination of donald trump. and so at this point, we understand that the shooter is deceased, has died, died at the hands of us secret service. we also understand that one of the people in the audience, one of the spectators also died. now donald trump has been released from the hospital and the former president who was currently the front runner for president of the united states and the current presidential race set to take the nomination
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of his party in milwaukee in a few days at the republican national convention. donald trump, uh he did release this statement uh, on his social media outlet through social describing what happened, giving his thoughts i want to thank the united states secret service and all of law enforcement for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in butler pennsylvania, most importantly, i want to extend my condolences to the family of the person that the rally who was killed and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. it is incredible that such an act can take place in our country. nothing. there's no one at this time about the shooter who is now dead. i was shot with the boy, the pierce, the upper part of my right ear. i knew immediately that something was wrong in that i heard a whizzing sound shots and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin, much bleeding took place. so i realized then what was happening. god bless america . now the u. s. president joe biden,
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he addressed the nation very briefly in the aftermath of the events. and when he spoke to the country, he stopped short of saying that it was an assassination attempt. when asked about this by a reporter, kind of an interesting exchange brief statement from buying and condemning political violence. here's what we heard from the current us commander in chief to everybody. everybody must condemn it. everybody, i'll keep you informed and if i am able to speak to, to donald, i'll let you know that as well. so far it appears he's doing well. number one, number 2, that there's thoroughly investigating what happened to anyone else in the audience i have. we have some reports, but not final reports and every agency, the federal government, and i'm going back to, to my phone, to speak with the federal agencies that are being put together again to give me an updated proofing. and i, they happen. they learn any more in the last couple hours. so the nation is in
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somewhat shocks. uh, there has been widespread media coverage of today's occurrence. there are many witnesses that were there, and so it happened. the image of donald trump uh, you know, being taken off stage by so so uh, secret service uh, wiley's pumping his fist with blood all over his face. that's certainly going to be i conic. that's an image that will go down in american history. no doubt. yeah. definitely, and i conic image kayla, but i just want to ask about the reaction. obviously we've heard from joe biden. well, what other reaction has that been from across the political spectrum in the us? well, it's worth noting that tucker carlson, the former fox news host who had the top rated television program was getting the most viewers before he had his jo removed from fox news tucker carlson, made a prediction roughly a year ago. it's something like this might happen. these are tucker thousands words
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a year ago that sound almost prophetic to song. and are they going to let trump be president? of course me look. if you know they protested them. they called the names he won anyway, they impeached him twice on ridiculous pretences. they think fabricated a lot about what happened on january 6th in order to impeach him to get it didn't work. he came back, then they indicted him. it didn't work, he became more popular. let me advise him 3 more times and every single time his popularity rose to begin with criticism, then you go to protest, then you go to a piece right now you go to one diamond and now the more what's next. let me let you know, grass it out, man. were speeding toward assassination, obviously. and no one will say that, but i don't, i don't know how you can reach that conclusion. so at this point, we have
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a lot of questions that are being raised about the shooter and their possible motivation. and at this point, we have to highlight the fact that many of donald trump supporters rally around his logan drain the swamp. and there's talk of what a lot of dump donald trump support is referred to as the deep state where the government apparatus that is on elected the security services, the intelligence agencies. they view this deep state as being at odds with donald trump. and donald trump as protecting the interest of the country against the interest of this deep state and despite whatever surfaces and whatever information comes out in the next few days or coming months. it is likely that a big section of donald trump, supporters are going to view this as an attack from the political establishment in the united states. the establishment of they see is already indicting him, the mainstream media that they see as working against his presidency. so the context of this is likely to be one of an inflamed division within the united
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states. feeling on the part of many americans that they cannot trust the government, they cannot trust the political establishment. distrust of mainstream media distrust of the narrative of big events like the one we just saw. there are big divisions among the american people at this time. no doubt about it. today's events are likely to intensify those divisions. okay, let price, we're bringing this up, today's and all of that. and that's all things corresponding caleb move in for us in new york. let's get into another discussion and delving to this now would full month c, i, a analysts, laurie johnson, and also for my intelligence of son, host of the whistle blowers, a john kerry echo genuine thanks very much for joining us here in all to international laurie. i just want to start off with you and what's your assessment of how the secret service agents dealt with this incident. so either in confidence total complicit. because the secret service agent who was in
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charge of setting up security for that venue failed to do their job. or they were complicit in, allowing this assassination attempt to commit to occur. there is no, there is no other choice. and let me explain when you go out and do the pre site survey as a secret service agent, you go around, you put somebody at the podium, or donald trump is going to stand. and then you move around both inside the venue and then the outside the venue. just find out where are the potential lines of fire . once you identify those potential lines of fire, you are then suppose to pose 6 are security per se. so now there with counter snipers, they didn't do that. and in fact, there are reports, credible reports from bystanders that they warrant police that they saw this guy climbing up on the roof and no one did anything. so the secret service agents that were inside the venue, they did their job. they moved immediately once the shot started uh to protect
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donald trump. but the overall officer in charge, and i don't know who that is, but they failed in their job, and that's either incompetence or they were complicit in a plot to have donald trump kill. there's no, no other way to look at. john, i saw your note in your head said, do you agree with laurie's just said about failure from the security services or complexity? uh yeah, i do. i agree with what larry uh, just said. this has to be one of the most bumbling in competent events in recent history as it concerns the secret service. but it is exactly right. it's not just the venue itself where the secret service goes, hours in some cases, days in advance to make sure that there are no open lines of lines of the site or available lines of sight renewal from eye witnesses. now that this person,
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while he was just outside the, the actual security zone had a perfectly clear line of straight from the roof of a building to the president. and so, having been rewarded by other bystanders, for as long as 2 or 3 minutes, there was a man in the room with a rifle. the secret service did nothing about it until shots were fired to i prayed that this was not complicity. we don't know because it, the investigation is just getting started. but at the very least, this was just disastrous incompetence. laurie, we've heard from donald trump, he's posted on his truth social media account. he's trying to oversee the security services that were with him. those guys who could come to me immediately after we heard those don't spanning funds. i'm lots of people. same people around the world will be delighted that donald trump came through this relatively unscathed. do
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think so that this will in bold in him is a can vision. how will it involved in him? oh no, absolutely. i mean he's going to, he's going to be seen as, as a hebrew, not a coward. the fact that he stood back up as soon as he got up with blood streaming on his face. he raised his hand and yelled, bite! fight! in the crowd, the crowd reacted to that. he. trump is part of a pretty select club. now. he joins the president feet, saw a slovak you as a politician who's been, uh, they attempted to kill and missed the only reason donald trump's a live tonight is that he literally seconds before the shot came in, he turned his head 90 degrees roughly to the right and that movement, literally through the shot all plus the person who shooting that looks now like they were using an, a, an auto like, uh, you know, they,
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our platform and m for something like that, which shoots around that is a $2.00 to $3.00 or 556, that's a very unstable at that distance. yeah, a lot of things can go wrong because the, the bullet itself, once it's fired from the gun, is going to move in an arc. now you've got wind. that's going to affect the movement. the heat affects the movement and when the person is trying to do rapid fire. i mean i, i say this because i'm a firearms instructor. i train rifle instructor as a turing, coastal instructors, and take anybody out to a range of a 100 yards and say fire all 34 shots, quick. a lot of the shots that we heard going off were all by this assassin. they were the counter sniper fire going after the assassin once i think he got off maybe 3 tops. busy or rounds tops before they started shooting and took him down. yeah, obviously very close che you for the, for my president. but let's don't forget that one individual has lost their life.
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they're all the others still courts, if you injured, don't to ask you about sort of this sense of political violence. laurie was talking about that. hey, we heard joe joe's bite and coming out to the podium. i was off to the incident and making a very brief short statement saying that political violence wasn't acceptable. he refused to cool this, an assassination. a bite in himself, just in a phone call a couple of days ago. this being, warranty reported said it was time to put trump in a bullseye. now, you couldn't interpret that in lots of different ways. but when you talk about putting somebody in a bull's eye you, you're essentially making them a target. so is joe boys and himself, also guilty of inciting political violets, or perhaps inadvertently uh yeah, so he didn't mean a literal oil side. but this kind of thing has happened in the past that happened with the republican vice presidential nominee syrup, hailing back in 2008,
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where she released the campaign advertisement that had i forget who it was. brock obama perhaps intervals like it's, it's poor for him. it's, it's a stupid thing to do. it just like it was a stupid thing to do for, for job. i'm not to say, well, this certainly seems like an assassination attempt. so there's no loss to him to, to just state the obvious like that to say to say, well, we don't have the facts yet, that's fine. we don't really know what's going on yet, but it sure seems to me like an assassination attempt is what he should have said. yeah, lori is not the 1st time i'm we, we've had a from one of biden's mega donors. this is a read hoffman. he just said 2 days ago, but he wished that he'd made a trump an actual more to i mean different now what's happened in the last few hours is acceptable. that we hearing comments like that some powerful people or yeah, it was going to turn on. i'm just going to rip them apart, frankly,
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because what's gonna happen now this week, m s n b c and cnn 2 of those uh, the cable channels in the united states that have gone out of their way to avoid covering anything that donald trump does are now, going to have to cover and because of the assassination attempt, there's no way that they won't be able to cover when donald trump delivers his speech. that the republican convention next week. you think they're going to be a few viewers. i, i predict. you'll probably have more people watching that speak to that convention . they were watching the tucker carlson interview with lot him or prove which was the, you know, several 100000000, you know, over a 100000000 easy. so that's going to be a big draw. you can also expect trump, he's going to move out and he'll be going to the funeral of that supporter who is killed by this. because when those bullets were fired, they must trump, but they hit people down range. and so trump will be going to their funeral, i would expect to see trump's going to be making
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a significant financial contribution to that family. well, you know, along the lines of what they do when the soldiers are wounded and they buy him a new house or something like that. so, you know, i mean, they've got to milk this for everything. it's worth and it's gonna, the, all the democrats are going to look in at a minimum of their go look, you know, cheap, and todd dri, worse, they'll look like a people who are encouraging murder to. yeah, it's interesting and obviously trump mentioning in his statement setting, he's condolences to not just the family of the individual who was killed, but also to those who look critically wounded in the assassination attempt. i don't, i just want to talk to you a bit more about political violence. so it was the we've had this attempt on donald trump's life, but in the last few months we've seen of the political assassination attempts. we had well but feet. so the prime minister of slovak a not really i think he was shot to 3 or 5 times,
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some of the bullets wounding him in his chest and he's on, i mean, he was reading very lucky to, to come back to back to life. we also had an, a ask the politician in germany who was stopped in the back. there was violence against the national raleigh candidates in fonts in their elections over the last few weeks. is this something that is linking this kind of political violence that we really see targeted me towards right wing politicians there very well could be, you know, i've been in washington for 42 years and i tell people with some regularity that it's not the same place that it was 42 years ago or even 32 years ago. it's become very angry and very mean spirited very divided and it's not just washington as huge as correctly pointed out. we're seeing it everywhere. we're seeing it in france and germany and, and all over the place, usually targeting right wing politicians. i think that people, for whatever reason,
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feel emboldens now to take physical action against people that they don't like politicians that they don't like in my past career at the c. i a, and i'm sure larry is at the same experience. i've served in countries where, where disputes were settled with a bullet. and it's, it's never right never under any circumstances how we've allowed ourselves to get to this point is a mystery to me, but we have to work hard and work immediately. to turn this around, we can't keep going forward like this. yeah, larry, i just want to talk about the future. raleigh is that from. is going to be holding . it's clear that it. we have tens of thousands of people who already go to trunk brawley's. it's likely that we're going to see even more people wanting to turn up and seeing this guy who made that fest putting who and it wasn't uh, you know, pushed down even off to this assassination attempt in terms of the security in
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terms of those public wiley's now, how do you think they will change? well, the file. finally, they've got a secret service agent in there that gives a damn about their job and knows how to do it professionally. much i've, i had personal experience going tomorrow long ago, 2 years ago. it was in november to, to a dinner, and donald trump was there, and i, i carry a concealed firearm with me all the time. and, and my wife does to so we had our fire arms in the car. we drove onto the morrow lago property and we were stopped by a secret service agent who said, do you have any firearms in the car? and i said, yes we do. they're locked away here. he goes, oh no, no, you can't have those here. you need to get them off the property, so i dropped everybody off, went back, put the middle hotel safe, came back. and when i came in he goes, do you get rid of those fire on 0? yeah, he says, okay, go on through. no check. if i went to live during the 1st time,
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i couldn't carry those firearm sensors. when we went in tomorrow long ago, there was no metal detector. there was no effort whatsoever to check people to see if they were carrying a file. so what i'm telling you is, this isn't the 1st instance an instance of the secret service, not doing its job, sloppy, lazy, incompetent. and so i think going forward, the trunk folks will insist that they have somebody who squared away knows what they're doing. yeah, take control of this probably in the future. i don't. how do you think that this event might affect the strategies of some of trumps political opponents? somebody who's been a huge amount of focus on biden's cognitive ability over the last few week. do you think they will try and make something more of this? you know, obviously we haven't find a note saying this was an assassination. say, well, i've got my opinions, but you know, we're going to wait for the facts to think. perhaps they can try and spend this in some way against trump or against stroke. no,
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i think that trump is in the driver's seat on this, you know, when, when this news broke, of course we'll get these push notifications. our phones, i happen to be walking with my son, i'm in miami today, and we were walking on the beach and the image of trump with his face bloody and his fist in the air. that very correctly said is going to be v iconic image of our political age. it will probably when the pulitzer prize and i turned to my son. and i said, from just one re election with that photo. you know, joe biden. god bless them. he has trouble stringing 5 words together to form a sentence. he's not getting any younger. he's not getting any better cognitively. and then it. and then donald trump is only a few years younger, can pop up bloody to after the assassination attempt with his visited the air and charged forward. well that's, that's quite the economy, isn't it?
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yeah, so i just want to stay with you a 2nd until course, some of the west and headlines that we saw in the aftermath of the attempted assassination. cnn suggested that it was loud noises, and it was a trump event that trump fell down on. how is it possible the big media organizations were trying to spin? this is some door during open folding over like we've seen with bite in, in the past. and that's exactly what they tried to uh, to lead us to believe in the very early minutes of this thing. i read every single one of those pushed notifications. he had fallen down. perhaps he tripped, there were fire crackers in the audience. as soon as we saw this very 1st report, i said to my son, i wonder if this was an assassination attempt. because i've been to rallies like this. larry's bit to rallies like this. nobody throws fire crackers in the middle in the middle of a crowd when a president or former president is,
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is speaking. presidents or former presidents in the middle of the speech don't throw themselves to the ground and then have themselves blanket covered by secret service agents was grasping their ears. it because they fall in or they've lost their balance. it was clear from the beginning, you know, this again it, it goes, it goes to the, to the disunity that we have in this, in this country that either what are supposed to be the responsible. national news outlets can't bring themselves to report the truth as it's happening. they just can't do it. well, don't we leave that to you and the whistle blowers. thank you for joining us as a homeless guy, unless starry jones and full met intelligence officer and host delta whistle blows which you can watch him on, on the seat. john kitty, how much obliged? great, thank you. well, let's give you the recap of the laser space is regarding the attempt on donald
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trump's life that's has taken place at raleigh in pennsylvania, which he naturally escaped. to take a look what happened. the speech was stopped in its tracks and he was instantly then surrounded by his secret service detail, lod schultz. from the a. the piece of his a covering. then the right side of his face, the trump held up a space in defiance, pumping it in the uh before. last thing, the security guards, school came off the stage in pennsylvania. the secret service says the full, the price of it is now safe, one's back pay to the was kills and $2.00 of us were critically injured. the shooter was located and then killed by law enforcement. an eye witness cap should the moments just take
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a look at this and some billing and somebody just started to boost the well, that's cost life now to retire the left hand of couldn't land international security consulting. l rasmussen. thanks very much for joining us. turn off international. i'm for so i just like to ask you for your thoughts on the job of the secret service. no, the guy is that we're surrounding from those who was supposed to be securing this area before the shooting. kind of speculate how somebody was able to get volumes. you know that, that i understand that the buildings are outside of the security,
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the secure zone, but it's only a 150 meters away, or a 130 meters away. those buildings are too close. they should have had a minimum, they should have been uh, checked beforehand and most likely should have had some type of secret service on top or under uh, under the i the counter uh counter snipers. um obviously this is a clearer security lapses. i understand that the, the security right around him reacted very good. but the, the color snipers didn't really react very good initially. and uh and definitely uh, definitely the, those buildings that have been checked and cleared beforehand there just to close and to open the, to clear shot it into the process that we would just hearing from a former c. i. a analyst laurie, don't see that this is the 1st time this perhaps be the lapse in security around
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from p talks about an incident where he was at mar logo. and he was asked about whether he had a gun that he suggests. and he came back and was asked to be rid of it and he said yes, but they didn't check um is it acceptable that there is this lack of proof of security around a former president who is standing for re election this year? yeah it's, it's um, you know, it's difficult to say on this and the, it, and trump draws huge crowds and i understand that everyone was going so there was in the, the secure zone was going through a security checks and everything like that. but i also from my understanding is that the trump, the team had asked for additional secret service protection security prior a couple weeks ago and they were turned down similar to robert kennedy. it was.

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