pouring onto gaza un special roplenger on the right to food michael factory has already declared massey's riley salvation of children assignment because of u. k. u. s. a. u armed israel on the pretext of october, the 7th. joining me from london in the u. k. his former palestinian diplomat. f e stuff. yeah. he was below representative to holland the u. k. the vatican, the us and russia. he's being deputy had of the piano delegation in geneva and to the un about to thank you so much for coming on every out of the sports, it continues. could israel continued to commit genocide without britain where you are the united states, the european union, supplying the weapons? you know, often commentators have said that this the yeah was shop this time himself in the foot and it seemed to me that nothing him seems to have many more than 2 feet to shoot out because up to now he gets, it keeps getting away with it and it's unfortunate because in international relations, the international,

when should we should proceed on the emission and when the, or a person or separation swim. i personally believe that he's at the using the international system. and i believe that he has an interest in prone being the war, the slaughter of the cottage, because his policy couldn't survive or depends on it. and because he's either info or elizabeth or he's in j, because so with respect to the charge respect, i've asked that i wasn't asking about that. the of i was asking whether the genocide could continue without britain, the united states and the european union nations are coming in at yahoo. as you know, the united states personally, i consider that they are responsible for the self inflicted impotence of the international competing. you know, the u. s. administration has been the cost of the shipping isn't, are in the united nations veto. you can get, you end result roll shows as even 0 over the total concerning the ceasefire. and nothing here has succeeded so far in several times. you can get the ending date and

get the u. k. good news might be coming soon because the new government, the left of the if you days ago, is reviewing that british aptitude visa view, the international criminal court. the previous conservative government, the venue sheepishly towards these are a v i, c q and has challenged the international criminal court and says it has no jurisdiction to indict and stuff nothing. you know, by the way, good news was the thing you know would be interesting because they liked the states at the end of this month to speak in the congress. i said that you would not make a stop over in europe because he really feels that europeans might find the cottage of apprehending him to deliver to him for regiment at the time being or of the internet to your full power to do i 2nd, but just on this britain just you, you mentioned britain, this awakening. ok. okay. you mentioned britain, your optimism about brenton, i mean, fan, there's no one really cares about the international criminal court and you believe

they've given the so long for the genocide to continue. sexiest. um, oh, i have met on a bbc program actually said israel has the right to withhold power and water from palestinian civilians. he's the new prime minister of the country where your in right now is also said that your flag, you'll palestinian flag may encourage attacks on british jews. maybe it shouldn't even be allowed on the streets of london. why do you have this offer to me? is what about the case tom o, there's just a point of a cabinet of people funded by his randy. nobody asked it's a very cautious optimism. but does it tell you, sir? i personally believe that we have room to maneuver with a labor government in london much more than we had with the conservative government . forget not that a very high proportion of the labor and peas and eventually pro palestinian historically for the last 2 decades. number 2 of the unions,

which are maybe the foundation and the supporters of the neighbor 5 to you all know them, you know, it was the had been calling for the ceasefire. continuing funding, the you a, the on the which is really wants to consider as a terrorist organization can you imagine? so i really, we have needs to pressure to the government, the liberal government, much more than you have means to persuade a conservative government, but it's cautious, cautious, optimism. i'm of the mistake or sorry about that. you do realize it as i guess from a kick, jeremy coleman out of the party for being. and i do see, might consider, is anyone who talks about zionism, i noticed in a week with just in the past few days metro, the big facebook silicon valley for them. it said, using the word zine isn't the george of lee is a to be banned on facebook and who knows? maybe uh, what's up in the problem with a p l. o you have this cautious optimism and now you are hated organization across

the world. it my friends, i think you should be aware of this. i'm lucky, big fan of sort of keeps stiver. but as i told you, we have friends within the labor party that i close enough to be assets. number 2, i think that she knows how wonder, but he is because the rest of the strategy in the u. k. no, that's he has a sweeping majority environment, but there wasn't a landslide in the electorate. he got 3000000 volts less than what germany called, been bought in 2017 by the way. and they all know that the most of the seats where there is a substantial it up. and most of them community is that was a bit in the whole thing for the labor of at least 20 percent. so i believe that during the last evictions, the palestinian, the add up at the most in community has shown more maturity than in previous evictions. they have more sense 6,

i was to order for me to put but is that the events as part of the is mission or the tissue. and i believe that, that we will be exploring the potential of the concept of multiculturalism, multiculturalism in sir, is a very important concept in the european eddie. now it allows minorities to maintain and reserve their identity and at the same time works to filter very degree sion identity and integration of no more incompatible. so you wouldn't be heating more of the at a community. do you pay? for example, we have looked, is that in the house of roads, every possible minority in the u. k, is represented in the house of north except the out of the bridge community. and i believe the visual beauty home guys busy. and i believe that the big jump popped is through the except that the entering the house of lords is easier than entering the

house of commons because is by no means i think labor somewhere has to be, i'm always out the roads. you know, i think that somebody needs, i think the house and lords needs to be abolished. that was the, the labor management as well. i'm a gravity. no, no, no, that's the check answer from you as long as it's exist. the reality is that data breaches communities, the only one i'm gonna be presented and as long as it exists, we should be getting ready to think that for a few members of that community, i recognize and intervene to the house of drawers, which is not unimportant in the british, what did you consist of? okay, well enough about britain. uh 1st was the 1st level. um. yeah. i think, you know, we have enough food enough fluids. uh, give me what do you think about uh, the fact that um, every time anyone talks about the genocide in gaza or at the state department press briefings, the statesman does say, 12 and smokes personal onto the blink. and we'll say, you know, we can desperately about the children of guys whose heads up being sliced off,

of course by the thousands with these us weapons. and british weapons by they did withdrawal a shipment of a 2000 pound m k before, but i'm shipment to famously used to mass kill civilians in vietnam. why do you think he paused one shipment of 2000 pound bombs used to mass slaughter people in terms of personnel missed to make it look good for the administration responsible for the general side taking place in front of our eyes. they in and they out and i really think that by doing it has already paid the price because he was shown to be extremely vulnerable if he maintains his candidacy. because he has drugs, many supporters within the youth, and my not, it is in the u. s. a and i believe that besides his physical pres, gbc, and etc, it says the execute of sheepish alignment on these randy presidents. even sometimes

contrary to the national interest today, you are unaware that the ability in the global south is at its lowest. and that's because of their position and that the to these are the disruptive and the cottage taking place. so i personally believe that it was end up with it by then withdrawing his candidacy and blinking is a success to the extent to is made your as any way he position seems as, as designed as term the very beginning. and he almost sticks instructions from nothing. yeah. well, after each of these visits but doesn't think that the english is now taking place, has turned into a fast and nothing happens. many predicting everybody. and everybody is the who is that where the whole month thing the end of this, an assisted adults and he goes to congress in defiance, by the way to, by doing and the democratic a distinction. interesting be, historically,

isabel was captivating the prose raise, you know, be in washington as a bi partisan about this. and they couldn't, it was both democrats and republicans, but nothing you know, for several years now, has shown a preference for republicans to win all types of elections and nothing, you know, a better t is waiting for trump to enter the white house again, which would be a disaster for the american society and american preferences. how can i get any worse than it was? how can i get any was on the trump then it was under joe biden and blinking and sullivan kind of get any worse than it is already for the people, because it's really bad, my friends, but i don't think that's the word moves from bad to boot and to back to them it can, it can turn worse and the anyway, if the democrats otherwise the, they were the river another can do, did they still have 4 months? it's may be late, but not too late. and i hope it all democratic contenders. i find is right next to

them and that they have many people who might be elected but, but the by about who, who in the democrats, the whole, who in the democrats does not support the sending of weapons to israel. even the squad has supported sending americans referenced and then you have to play american politics on this program. but i personally believe that the set or the voices would be raised on it either the motor diamond the same as the democrats. i'm not trying to cope with you from that, but it's send it to like a mr. van horton, a very distinguished senator who was not going to be proactive or appropriate as didn't you and have more that name was and they had problems with those with is there's interest 1st the presented in discussions and hearings, the nation or dignity that has been lacking in the debates or quoting from cathy told him, you know, to drop the capstone who is another, is radio

a few by 33 is the need one day to be the greatest. if ever you want to have even handed the american party to try to know the job, you know the job, that's why doesn't is really want to become the 51st state. and the answer is that they would have to content themselves then with only 2 said that there's ways not they can rely on $95.00. and it says, because of the power of a back end, the financial assistance of a passed through many politicians and in the states. anyway, i'd be games, as histories that dynamic process as things are moving, things are changing. and what are the factors that have changing is within the i'm open jewish communities, you've seen demonstrations in washington and new york where many thousands of drawers were taking 5, sitting up in our name. and i'm passing the master. i have all the stuff here and best jeffrey sophia, i'll stop you. the more from the former deputy head of the piano delegation geneva ends of you. and after this break the

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the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here. it would be full of a palestinian diplomat. a master piece of you and basset or i interrupted to you and you were talking about the infamous is really low be and how it fails to prevent the jews in the united states demonstrating for palestine as they increasingly due. but to the policy, the authority you spend so much of your life representing the yellow around the world in your career. it's of course bankrolled by israel. is it very, increasingly difficult and impossible for the piano for 5 to criticize the united states, given that it's cash comes from the us. fire is ro it, i think you're using the word back, lord in a very comfortable position and the question of

a mentor. and the co pays though is, is that it is that rubbing the palestinians from their own money. the, you know, in the purchase agreement after the us know i cards is road, receives the receives on our behalf of the taxes of our import and export, and they give it back to us as to the doctor, 3 percent for the administrative role. now with the new government of the midst of nothing here who with small rich as finance minister, they had been with or did any more than 3 quarters of this amount of money. so using the word bank road from your side is a question of a way of addressing the issue of the comfortability is road is trying to stuff ok the palestinian authority. and i believe what they are doing is a general sizing, gaza and the out of doing it for the, the side in the west bank against the palestinian authority in guns up the strategy

from the very beginning has been the following. they want to make because i've talked to the liver to force the population to me, the young punk, somebody to my great s way into egypt, they had hoped, but the egypt is rocking good. thanks. that's where the or anywhere ends and they want the geography without the demography that has to be in the game. and this reminds us of what happened in the that's about 1948 when we get the israel level to the ground, they now might do the $518.00 villages. can you imagine that so that the palestinian refugees come up to exercise their right to return to their homes and home towns and the and villages has, as you know, i'm past this sufficient pull the process of rendering guns the i'm even happy to bu hoping the menu and choose these raiders and i don't see mentor, they use the word a bottom to the migration. what's will not do the about it after they had to be

investigated with those 2000 pounds. but that they got generously from the americans that the british has, you know, and best of that kind of a truthful history is banned defacto in the nato, propaganda or media or in any case. so let's just go to the resistance. well as important as it is, and as, as valuable information is that is what about reconciliation? to unify the resistance under the terms of un security council resolutions like to for, to why his, it time us and the p l. o. in fact, i have not all made friends again, despite attempts from the united. i remember it's where i'm speaking to you from saudi arabia, russia, china of jerry, i don't know how many countries have tried to put you together. why is it that i really supposed to be that 1st thing in the public opinion is very angry. i guess the 4 digit code is stablish, and most of i mess and thought they were, they love, i'm us according to read both of us and sat there for not having achieved

reconciliation. i believe that if not now, when we are having the method for our existence and our survivor, and it's no more thought, i better to tell everybody to tolerate this split that exists and diabetes. we need to open up the piano. so that's how much i had this lenny joining in the leadership of the piano. as i believe that with a national consensus, we should have a government that enjoys the support of all defections. what do we need to? the palestinians is domestic legitimacy and international acceptability. and i believe that for, domestically she gave me the c, we need the agreement, which means that they have how much and for international acceptability. i think you how much need some wisdom in knowing how to be discrete and accept the idea of a take a look at the government for a year or 2 before we can hold national election. so what are the speaking? i mean, if someone like you have solid like you who represent,

if somebody like you who represented that piano around the world, can say what you just said. what are the sticking points i wasn't in that would be for the tools here or in most go for those tools. i know that country to what you said, i'm honest, is getting more and more popular actually, according to recent polls, they wouldn't mahmoud abbas out clearly, according to the palestinians, end of a policy and survey research polling. so what was the speaking point from my boss is a people in the p l o in 5 to to not have a unified resistance. as you've just outlined is the favorable option. it is said i, i see it's got to be fab and the, and the objective one has to put the blame on the political establishment and the need to ship the entire be to ship and not on the on without bass. and so that's number one. number 2 said, i believe that popularity is something fluid. indications show that for example,

how may i spoke with that in guys that has been yes, it has written it and it isn't in the west bank, it cetera. and, but this thing is, would have, is difficult to difficult to go, how long it isn't does. the 1st thing is when i'd be more or less than a discussion once they've guns, have been silenced through the ceasefire. and i believe in rest, united community, i believe that's how much is that, where that's what we need to achieve it by this thing in state, withdrew them as it's copied the end on both wings of the better student. 33 in the west bank and gaza. i believe that for the has being on saturday through decides to to, to use, to as being the 1st to discover what is the seating of the possible and the permissible. and fact that was much more mature than others in discovering what this desire. but what this possible and what is acceptable, and i believe that's how most unfortunate they said with that is as though we are

ashamed of that acceptance of the that see being of the possible. we need statesmanship and maturity and on both sides, but to have him us, we'd be blamed by get it so you have an on. so what this particular point could i was be more would be, ma'am, do you have an answer? what possibly could be the sticking point from fast as side as to a unified resistance? i don't just i think there are certain topics that should be left to us. the others have been silenced and that we are a society if i typed in 4 hours, the existence answered by surviving let's the start of the weeks for the discussion is corruption. is it correct? but i mean, edward said if he was alive, i don't know what he would think that i'm us and he was a friend of mine and my friend a i understand that it, we match in him in a world where hamas was so much more populated than the hated 5 to the hated p, a low, all across the west bank up i don't, you know,

it was presumably corruption of the piano and the fact that movement that has created this situation said no, no fund of the underlying principles of how boss. obviously how, how is it come to this? and when will mahmoud abbas resign? my friend, do you see that we have the conditions today for elections in defense the, until the end and that's what they said. that's what they said 2 years ago. look, there are reports that i'm yahoo, nothing, you know, he says he could consider for the p l. o ruling gaza after this. what's left of of gaza. i mean proof in what those reports say that and yeah. who would favor a fast run guys? uh uh no, nothing. yeah. what does not say that one of my friends, you will be very biased and you are invited to have your own prejudices. but i think you are taking too much liberty and expert who is in the times of israel.

published means i know they're all over junior this. no, no, i'm sorry. you're expressing the types of to your opinion and to appraise. not i have no opinion. do they just say the times of israel said that the whole, as i told you, i accuse him of probably decide he wants to ex the better send you an end to do whatever it is. and there he will, he doesn't save the return of the palestinian authority in gaza. and if i will, how much support to him? by the way, that's the wisest course of action, very close to the issue was but the, and the, but a senior measure, according to the administrative tomorrow of the, the as 3. do you know how many videos that would be needed to be built? because uh, do you think that the, the categories add up and the others would be giving money if ever, how much is still in power? that by doing, oh, well, as long as apple per day, as long as it's democratically elected, the 1st thing you know, told as long as it's a democratically elected government, they are, you know,

at the moment people are friends with the taliban. they were the shooting. i corporation, organization meeting in the style, the reason being it just goes to uh your skepticism, understand it, but for whatever. yeah. anyway, just to uh, the you nations recognizing palestine in name only a lot of rich rhetoric. i notice whether it be that or i'm talking about the i c c, the use, the 2nd largest, i'm supply to israel. what do you think there's a lot of posing around? because they know that population to seeing these images of all sorts of children beheaded babies by the british g. u. and us weapons, that these politicians say will recognize palestine as a state. and on the, under the table pouring into weapons to kill the children because of what's going on in europe where you, we have been tending the europeans that it's is role that has reduce the potential enrolled in the middle east. europe, as wanted to be

a player they were and out by is, are on the to be a payer. and i kept getting the europeans that you, as europe asked, is an expert in search for the role and, and the individual needs to have a little research for the next to, but yes, up to now, europe has been disappointing. but 700 companies have had the ability to go to the city of recognizing the state of palestine to the displeasure of mister, nothing, yahoo! it's a different magic, but the undertaking a u, as in general, just to kind of use as to be taught to be skeptical. we as with the credit method, since we need to be optimistic or the hope can, will be nice people and not skepticism and best citizen. and just finding very briefly, given eva generation, if i left any and survivors will eventually retaliate against those who have armed israel to carry out the genocide we're seeing on a phones every hour when i hope that diplomacy will

prevail. and i hope that the international community would succeed in it has been the northward religion. in fact, is by pass bypass the scope like ration and the i prefer not to enter on august. whom should we be read that the in the future. yes, there is a lot of anger i keep getting is raid is that's we try to play with you winter when are you still want to play with us news or when the news or no society on earth accepts and want to be the 200 loser as men, you would have the samsung complex by saying if i am from them to be the toner loser to head with the temper and done with the painters, i am still in favor. so a winner winner. and as a thank you. and that's over the show of continued condolences to those bereaved by u. k. u. s. u of them. genocide will be back with the brand new episode on saturday

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