the, the the know energy is a fundamental indicator of how well you're going to be storing. probably when this does vision of india is of a board and of any and vicious group. and i think the more the government things

back up today, we've all become victims of fire stick. politics brings a logic kind of us. that's all russian federation. cooperation is an exceptionally important visit. go buying a so much i said, do i buy from whoever says we have the most competitive price? why does it bother the i don't think it does the hello and welcome my name is unable to make them do my show better for the next half. an hour we will discuss all the things in the motto to be the very special guest is a season diplomat and a prominent politician who served as india as a permanent representative to united nations and had 4 administrative positions today. subbing of india minnes dropped petroleum and natural gas. they completely put it. here are the party was born in delhi in 1952. he got his master's in history from del university and joined and used for in service in 1974. during his

remarkable diplomatic career, she has served his joint secretary to the government of india in the ministry of external affairs and ambassador to brazil. pardeep corey also served as indians permanent representative to the you and in geneva. and in new york, he joined the bgp in 2013 and was 1st appointed the minister of housing and urban affairs in just 4 years time. from 2019 to 2021. he held 3 mister o positions. at the same time. he is currently serving, administer petroleum and natural gas. thank you. it's an honor to speak to. i 1st i met you in new york and now we had, here's chatting about life. you come from a diploma family, the low disability in action, a joyce that to me to get into this. i don't think i ever exercised a choice as of 12 in terms of career. and i wanted to be diplomatic because my

father was in the ministry of extending the 1st. so that's a life i was born in to me. as a 4 year old child. i accompanied my father when he went on his 1st boasting to born in germany me. when i was 16 years old and joined the university. i was exposed to student politics. i floated with both the left and the right. as we understand it, the normal language and yes, i was elected student leader in 1971. so after i finished my diploma, that could be a of 39 years that it's not that i exercise the choice of the most and that sort of lisp into the next phase of my life, which was the b zippy. i had made my intentions very clear. there was in fact,

an instance in 2008 when i just come back from brazil that i was invited to. and i would say country and daily. and i wanted to consider joining politics even then. i remember i went to the then leadership of the body and expressed an interest in uh, of contesting the 2009 elections from bailey, the party, for whatever reason. very difficult to say with the benefit of hens. hindsight, they decided not to give me a ticket. that was a good thing then i went on to new york where i became permanent representative. and i had the privilege of presiding over this to go to pick onto the deal was elected to the council of in 2011 and 12. and i remember when you and women was established, my very distinguished host was one of the 1st he for she's yeah, who was appointed time of the planet of the brand best design advisor that also so

it was a very fulfilling of nearly 5 years in new york, when, when i came back in 2013 uh, what i had wanted to do, i almost fell into a slot again in 2014. i wanted a little extra, a ticket to fight the looks of i election. i would have thought it did not find it right. they didn't, didn't give me a ticket, but i didn't also know before that i just expressed it comes up. but then before i knew what is happening, i was pointed to the council of ministers in 2017, and that's with nearly 70 s plus the main difference between being and deployment and a politician bigger. but i'm just a movie. and as a cabinet, as unbelievable. lee brilliant diplomats done into ministers and it speaks about his acumen also to choose such a loan as people. but what is the difference between that i, i don't know and i perhaps have not been able to find the answer. i,

i get nice about this, i usually get nice carefully, you know, just into the, i agonize about it, what mix a bus and able to navigate a diploma is just a look at it that i use ition. but i think a lot of civil 7 audio, an academic audio, or if i made respectfully submit a highly successful person in the world of and agree if it was a cinema this on streak that which is a fundamental requirement which has to be able to get on with people put your point of view across, sit fanatic to reach out to your audience, and that's part of the problem is what that's also part of what it takes. i mean, i was reminded when i was very young as a 77 and we lost a very senior civil 7. and he said, you know, that my knew how to navigate when he sideboards politicians. he could use his skills as a civil servant done as a diplomat to talk to them. and yet when he was with the dye, had bureaucrats,

he could also use his skills as a politician to navigate to. so i think these are interchangeable. these are the other facets of the same personality as to some people and never make the transition. and the time seeing, you know, somebody, but i think if you've been in any profession for 39 years as i was shortly, there must have been something we have to learn by way of knowing how to relate to people knowing how that and the wonderful politics brings a logic kind of what starts on, i mean there's a diploma you had accredited from one country to another or if you're into you and you are dealing with the member space. but political gotten was is much larger. so i think it also provides good training now, but i'm going to some movies in the i can become energy independent by 2047. how do we get this? i think we try when this does vision of india exhibiting

board and emily and vicious grouping because he also wants india to be a developed country by 2047. so what do you, what you're talking about is india with an economy of $25.00 trillion dollars as against. busy trillion the fortunately and all that. now, no energy is a fundamental indicator of how well you are going to be doing a nobody. if you ask anyone a question on any countries, consumption goes on, energy rising, are the declining at this table. it can give you a fairly good idea of how the economies in india today, i've been, this is show rapid consumption please. i don't want to start early with the facts, but we are today consuming 5000000 barrels of crude oil. in a day. we're just going into our designs, 5000000 bottles in a day. this was a figure in about a few days ago, yesterday or day before i had to appear on a show like this. and i did my homework and the figured has come up to 5330000.

that is, you know, it's, it's a mass of how we are going to in the next few. we are to look at them in google and consumption of $6000000.00 barrels per day, plus us in the next to tickets. next 20 s 25 percent of the increase the in global demand is going to come from india. so your question is a very specific pointed question, and i apologize, we're giving you a long waiting it on so it will come from several things. one, a massive increase in expiration and production. what happened is, for a long period, we just taught that if crude oil is available at reasonable rates all over the world, why do you want to know explanation and production? even when i joined this one is 33 years ago. a lot of people in the place of the

why do want to import? oh, i do want to spend money on prospecting, but no, i think the multi government things better and we have released out of the $3500000.00 square kilometres of supplementary basing would to be at 1000000 square kilometers, which was no go area has been released for prospecting, we've taken all the data and put it on a repository in the university of texas. all the major oil companies in the world are now coming. one thing to invest here in the job was, you know, the government invest and if you find the oil and then we started to solve and right, this is us. so the investor would say, why should i come in reason? now we're really in incentivize the invest upcoming and we're willing to even go finance the the, the, the, you know, the operation to look for it. we're going into biofuels and a very big we list them all the assumed responsibility to,

to biofuel blending in our energy mix was 1.4 percent of that about today we are doing 15 percent last month. we did 50 percent. we had a thought of april 20 percent by 2030. we're going to do it by 2025. we're going to go with the green hydrogen in the big way. but having said all this, it's my understanding that at least for 20 years from now, you will also be dependent on fossil fuels, which is, i mean, they got got into if you're doing 5 and 5000005330000 bottles a day. it will go up to even save and all that about is it going to be all done domestically? domestic production will go up. the rest will be imported and the up limited, but the self sufficiency is that you will not be dependent on external sources. now one good thing that does happen is that because you're allowed to buy, it also gives you some leverage in terms of how much you buy at what

price you buy, et cetera. i think the 2047 and a do. so for efficiency coming from solar, a big with green hydrogen, like i think green hydrogen is a fuel of the future. now what do you need for? what do you need to get green hydrogen? you need to be able to use clean energy at a reasonable price that the solar we've already demonstrated that from 25 cents a unit, we brought the price of solar down to $0.03 a unit. then you need an electrolytes that we put that on the the lice game. so today i would say that all out estimates of green hydrogen for the next 5 years, 6 years 2030. all right, i'm gonna estimate. i see green hydrogen exploding. i see biofuels with a 20 percent target. i see that going to be 40 percent 40 percent in mall. so your energy will be interesting. you will be able to solve the agricultural problem

proven with a 10 percent blending. we give off almost $41400.00 gross because you save that money due to inbox. now, when you do 20 percent blending, depending on the global price, it will give you a promise more. today the biofuels that's an old feed is coming from sugar. okay, and it's coming from is it's coming from broken food green, it's coming from agricultural waste. so be self sufficient energy in. yeah, part of that the prime minister in the side is it's a large gun was including all this. what is it that you think is right now happening in part of that is making audit survival? i think what is happening in part of this is something which is a combination if i minutes submit of 3 factors and we have gone from being apologetic about our development. the space we will under develop, bieber wondered,

looked at it devices for and there's something remarkable that this happened. is that the boss, the honorable prime ministers in spirit, in us, a pride in our historical and civilizational boxed as a thing to say. and i think he believes that it's only countries which have $310.00 bride in them says japan being a case in point of have the ability to grow. and i was severely and strongly believing that because, you know, if you are going to buy into the wisdom that at the one that's an additive, i was brought up on a new budget. and i, when i went to school, when i went anywhere, you know, they were locating the, as is as a country, which is, you know, maybe to be with the different art despise and you have a long way to go. maybe we had people who were displaying in just as a snake country upsize smith. i'm live in elephant and, and so the buyers of people buy them up in the high position. absolutely. so then came along mr. toby had a bunch, but i do my them

a great respect. i had the privilege of knowing it for a long time, and we couldn't get it out. the nuclear tests, which gave you a sudden edge in terms of ones who have a nuclear. the tenants before they just like me mostly is. but then the last 10 years have been remarkable in terms of the kind of beacon nomic product. the forces which have been unleashed is a government can only provide a small catalyst. they can provide some ideas. i don't, no matter which way you would add, what used to happen is there is to say that that i 7, i'm in the as out that that is the flow and india, which is um, you know, very way to do. and then that is a very poor and i, it would be more deep than yours have succeeded in doing. and this realization is we have not been able to get that negative across me. is that he has said that good governance is also good politics. so sort of all day until day and he's taking the

develop the folks of development or the benefits of development to the buddhist to the farthest by which was by the way, the agenda of the sustainable development goes 2030, which came into being, i think, the 2016, but more than you'd already started in 2014, which means what ford could order for the 13 of us who is not. and i was saying version another 3 cro. if paper didn't have cool thing guys, he would give them cylinder. would you like 10 grow or 28 black cylinders given under that? would you want to ask him? the metro system? no. india is a country on the moon to day on metro system is getting one drawer people, passengers, but they but today are open. population is just over 30 percent and we had 1400000 people is a 30 percent. by the time we do 50 percent of a population that will be 800000000 people living in india. so you would need an open transport system. so the metro system in the next few years will be the 2nd

largest in the world a little bit. take to south korea, japan and the united states, which is that 1560 kilometers. the point i'm making is it's not one thing you bring an ecosystem. and today look at this digital evolution. financial intrusion. and we can, wisco was all segments of society. i mean, look at the handling of the pen to me in and of itself. we have one country in the word, which declared the loved them quickly. also, because if it's a choice between life and livelihood, your con, the end of it will save lives, we will do congress light, and then we came out of it all to quickly, but resides all indigent needs to be manufactured. vaccines. not only provided what something like 220 or the vaccine, those as 2 people in india motor most feet. but you also supply to 100 other countries. so today you're not only doing this, but what you're doing yet. i know, but g is a replica both on a larger scale in the global south, in,

in africa and latin america, even in parts of centrally shots such as and central europe also. so india has come up, you look at your automobile and do the, but more than that, i would say you come to the cutting edge technologies when it comes to the nitrogen, we don't need it because so in all these areas, these are the 3 things. civilizational fast, they think development now and then embracing technology, digital and all that with a religious, well, i'm facing. do you feel that in the see the list and the word from a huge economic model known in 2022? absolutely. how you see when the military operations to friday. so if you're talking about 5 of the $22.00, let's look at the hard fact. some the hot facts that these i shouldn't regulation produce, 13000000 bottles off accrued light in a day. if you what i'm gonna say, hope hypothetically, if you were to pick the position that or there will be no imports or purchases from

the shop, then it's done. so he's been thought of putting wheeling bottles which was being produced and consumed. whatever to be purchased from somewhere else, where was it would have been purchased from, from the other supplies. so just imagine if the doors were supplying the global total was about a $120000000.00 bottles of it would take $13000000.00 barrels off. it is the other matters, it will be a more pressure on that, which means the price went up sort up to $25300.00. so one popular misconception was that, uh, you know, people have said that, uh, you cannot buy uh, oil from russia. so i was one of those upfront, but i see that with great uh price i question, does it wait a minute? wait a minute. what are we discussing? the oil, which comes through a pipeline from the russian federation to hungry is exempt from any such stock. the oil, which goes in a pipeline from the russian federation to china,

is exempt sales from the cycling through japan and the parties that exam. so why this intended again then slowly everybody said no, no, it's not that it's best that you should buy them. they impose the price gap. i have been saying to a lot of my friends all over the world, i don't want to name any country. you said go buying a so much. i said, do i buy it from whoever sends me at the most competitive price, because my or marketing companies. so they provide 19 percent of the country store to revenue. so they will be short and up. and they will say we want to disagree, or devoid anyone wants to compete can complete them, but then the in february, the 22, our purchase is of a good eyes and rest. so that only 0.2 percent me only 0.2 percent from today. last month it was over $35.00, nearly 40 percent. so why does it bother the i don't think it does the rest. it doesn't bother the bank. $20000000.00 in the us. why? how come? nobody mentions that please. the political diploma didn't move or is know it is i

it's, i really need best more. i have been saying, if you have a large farm and let them america lodge oil farm and who have suddenly find toys that we know. and if you can provide it cheap, we will so know these things will go up and down. however, the imports were allowed to the from. so the end it'd be, uh, the edits go with it out. well, i think that keeps coming up and down. i don't think it's really bothering anyone. well, they have their problem solved. i. they would say that i wanted us to buy an oil at the competitive rates, but that's an entirely different discussion. and i know the construction is under before the new reactors in contact with them. how important is this cooperation that i show any reading i can tell you, we've been to a very fascinating phase in our approach to energy doing them. one more thing is we had the, you know, this design because new euclid energy ideally shouldn't be a source of providing

a very significant portion of your requirements. we signed an india specific safeguards agreement, we did all these things, etc. but then it's always been what took off and then or not. but idea of the russian federation cooperation is an exceptionally important of cooperation with the slide soviet union. in many fields, i'm in defense, you know, energy now the nuclear etc is extremely important. that'd be great to evaluate. so what are the key objectives, what it's engagement in the architect collision in terms of energy, energy, as defined in the broadest possible, um, as broad as possible. and i mean new look forward. whatever energy you can get, we can all but today, you know, the new and new mexico going to be looking at, read some of those, all that. so like any country, but you know, this is a game in which some country is going off the market earlier, but i certainly believe that there's enough around everywhere. and that will be rationalized vision, production and supply lines. what additional lies and countries which have large

markets, what has the, the saw? so we'll also need to say, no buttons and give you an idea of where to stop buying, say, what 5 or $6000000.00 barrels a day. you don't, how much on while it would be and it wouldn't be the organ advised me. i mean, do i own large biased or to china and india? i knew about us. but, you know, with the advent of electric vehicles coming in with the advent of other, the hybrids biofuels coming in, green, the hydrogen, etc. the world is changing. but i still think for the fuel foreseeable future, this kind of energy mix is something we wouldn't need to be anchored in photo wise . how does, how do they put a, relax, a very good question. the question may have some really of oh, why doesn't have the ability to learn? so i mean i've, i've, no, i, i'd be late, i go to the next person when i relaxed otherwise, but the know by relaxed i think you had a very positive construct under like some is the switch off the switch off today

we've all become victims of technology before you see, but prototype in one at night, you're looking at the messages when you get up in the morning. first thing is you're looking at amazon. so i think taking a time off. well, that's not going to happen this now because you have a boss was completely dedicated to look. i don't think is big on a holiday and did you want, does it task master? done that's up to you. i mean, he has a lot of lot lot, a lot of people working for them. i don't think everyone shows what drives to respond to that lucas or letting me i don't think i've heard him take a holiday and see what a stephen is through the that out. and i received him in london and in geneva when i was living in trip executive. but the point is that, um, i think its gwen has progressed over the last few months, has been particularly hectic because it a lot of 85 b election campaign. actually we were working in the election more the one for 6 months earlier. so i think that does it, but i hope to slow down. i think what needs to before. i don't to use, you know,

i but i, i think it is, it's always a noble intent. so do you read or you watch a feeling or do you listen to poetry or do you listen to music? i listen to music throughout the day. okay. i mean, whether i'm in the car or even during meetings i have music playing and all the i'd go to terms that have on that, that's playing all the time. and then actually it was here. i would invariably watch netflix also. uh, you know what, a lot of movie and, and uh for both of us and both of us read quite a bit. thank you. of the 1980 and that gives you mike and thank you for watching. joining me next week, as we uncolored a new list and yet another debate and let's stuff out of i'm of them kid. good by. the

one with the political was normal and so forth. us national move the images on. so, crowns car ma'am from that's why little do you much really watch the words the which isn't going to do with me as well when i go and still able to still you still live with i'm seeing is still bothering you, but let me hear when you push up the issue of the unbox remodeled and we've got this to move 011 missed this. and when you go out in front of the deal is make up the bell. i don't yeah. post the budget was like, oh but i use the yeah. i was thinking it was i knew so i strongly feel ca, guy, maybe cause it please go ahead and always communicate that me through a couple of national minds. police are still the other you have such alteration mojitos to ya. you're losing a deal in space,

but i don't think he will just push cuz that's a little really tough. but your move, especially as he's putting a big news, the i'm saying is up and then you got thrown in. this is the one and then the other will be missing. the guns thing is some list of course the rubies vis. throw it in my hands, not old on the side of me, and just want them as up and that sort of the of wanted to come here since i was 121. my grandfather told me that his mom came from russia that we are. i was part russian. i didn't plan on staying as long as i was gonna look around. i was gonna see if it was for me, but then i came and then i was like, i don't remember when i go home. i've never been happier in life than i am here in most of the i've only lived here a few months,

but i wanted to tell you what fascinates me about russia and share the stories of other foreigners who lived here like jay who worked as a chef and now raises goats and mix cheese in the countryside series like chad who has been granted political asylum because he's being persecuted by the f. b. i. us, embassies. and for countries that come after me it's, it's wild, like an american family that recently moved to russia with 6 children. i've never felt safer atlanta higher life than living here. the take a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. fixtures, design to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented to this,

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