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on information that is not realistic. so midweek visit to the cross talks to do is next counts peter and guess enrollments. and i'm here again in 30 with the big stories effecting your world today. bye for now. the the hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle be attempted. assassination of donald trump appears to put descriptive american politics. trump, once unified democrats and divided republicans. now the democrats are in disarray and trouble rule. supreme within the g o. p. the debates and the shooting have
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changed everything. the cross talking trump, i'm joined by my guess in high wouldn't beach. we have greg passenger door. he is co host of the congo couch and in san francisco we crossed to scott bennett. he is a former us army officer. alright gentlemen, costs up rules and effect. that means he can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate pasta. one of the most interesting things that we've seen over the last couple of weeks, particularly the assassination attempt on trump, is that everything has changed. and who do you trust? those are the 2 things i've drawn so far? go ahead. okay, well i mean everything has changed, right? i mean he is saying if he was once jesus on earth, he is now god in heaven. i mean, everybody is just flocking to him every single time they try to indict him or, you know, arrest him for something. he just raised his numbers. so you can just,
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and with this assassination attempt is doing for him, i mean, everybody is continuously flocking to him now, so it really has changed the landscape. but the, i mean, after yesterday, seeing him come out at the r n. c, with the tape on his ear, coming out to see him proud to be an american. i mean, this is going to be really hard to beat him if this was a fair election. so, i mean, the states have risen. it seems like he's gotten everybody to come to his side, but for me that makes me skip 3rd about what will happen moving forward if he does become elected well, passed the same with you here we're here. we seen when it comes to trump, his opponents go up the escalation ladder and the, the, the highest point we've read so far, is this assassination. but there are still many wrongs in that latter as we go up. i, i'm afraid to say we're in a very dangerous, unstable time. scott, you know, how are we to get in? except what happens here? it, the secret service is going to tell us what happened the f
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b i is going to tell us what happened. so i'm a person in the d o j, i mean, really? i mean these are the people or at least the d o j have been going after trump. now since he left off is, are you reading argue video j? when after him, when he was in office here, we can't believe these people. they've lost all credibility and legitimacy. yeah, you're exactly right peter. they have lost all legitimacy. they've lost all trust. of course, these are the agencies that betrayed the american public by hiding the ones you're buying laptop story and inventing the propaganda of russian hopes and the election process. and the american people know this and the american people despise these agencies and also the nazi merit. garland, department of justice going after the trumps reporters of january 6th and going after women, you know, who challenge school boards because they don't want the l g b, t, agenda, ramrod at down their children's throats, all of the american public for the most part that is a brain has taken
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a position against these agencies for their to, for their tyranny. and now we're seeing once again, the department of secret service do a kennedy potential assassination setup. there's 2 possibilities, either they're a drug test playing confident because of their diversity equity and inclusion montoya, or it's worse, or they actually conspired to assassinate donald trump. and we'll see if the congress has any integrity by mentioning that word. did you do to trump what you did to kennedy or, or try to, if they don't mention the kennedy assassination in the parallels? then of course, we know the congress a suspect to, but you're right peter, this is elevated and advanced donald trump into a position to victory. you're also right that the democrats or like drowning man. and i have predicted for a long time that they were going to assassinate joe biden, to create a martyr card, and then move in,
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galvan newsome. but i think now with trumps, near assassination, they are probably, and i hope i'm wrong, but i do believe they're going to assassinate kamala harris and then move in gavin newsom into that position. and then he automatically becomes president before the election. and if they do to assassinations and blame it on a trump supporter who is of course, a deep state agent, then they can do some sort of a suspension of the election like so. well, hold on is a, but you know, that type, you know, considering what scott just said there are pub passed to the if we don't get the truth from these authorities, then any kind of conspiracy theory is going to, i mean, they're all over the place. right? now, it's not because they're invented out if they're of course, some people will. but it's because if we're not told the truth about something that were left alone to decide ourselves, okay, it is, you know, either the malice or the neg negligence of the authorities. you're going to get conspiracy theories positive as it was. the problem is really when you look right
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down at it is, that is the fact that both parties, democrats and republicans, even the trump, people don't want to get rid of the c i a, the f, b i, where the d o j. they just want to reform it, right, but when they say reform it, it's the same old same all these agencies cannot be reformed and they will never, ever change. they need to be a bowers, like get a j f k said they would be, but i think people are a 3 camps right now. peter, i think some people believe in the marking that's what's told and then what they see on m. s. i b c. what they see on the television, and then you have those true, there's out there, the conspiracy theory, right? that they're called cruisers. now because they see the truth and ever since epstein and a little bit with 911, they now believe that most conspiracy theories are kind of true out there and they are coming true. it is especially with the victoria normally the situation when it came to the bio labs in russia. i mean, before she committed to that, that'd be what we're saying. this is just a bunch of conspiracy theories. but i think most people are in the 3rd camp from that is they believe their government is lying to them and they don't know what to
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believe. so that's where we're standing right now. and nobody's gonna be able to tell us anything because it's like a triangle in our discussion right now. if anything's up for grabs, it's interesting, scott, i mean, the reason why the comic imagery everyone. i know you and everyone knows what picture i'm referring to. but the importance of, you know, you can, you know, it's another, you will g, my image and all that. that's fine. i agree with that here, but you know what it is, scott and pasta is that it was on filtered. nobody had to explain to me what's going on. i don't have to listen to pundents. i don't want to listen to spin for nano 2nd, we all saw clearly what's going on. and this is what puts the establishment in a bind because you can't lie to me about what i just saw. go ahead. scott: a brilliant observation. peter, it was wrong, it was media. it was very simple. it resonated with historical significance.
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it resonated with present animosity which the media and the democrats have constantly sniped at donald trump since 2016, which is given the american public a political indigestion, if not nauseated them. and now this was the fruit of all of that hatred and victory, all in predatory, rhetorical slander. and we know the democrat lunatic leftists do this. we see them making their tick tock, videos. the american people are appalled by it. their, their center const, right conservative. that it's not a liberal left his country. uh and, and what you describe is exactly the shock moment of people going down the roller coaster and there adrenalin kicks in. and now, and it's still not over peter, this is, you know, it's a combat situation. this takes a week to process out of your system. so we're sir,
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we're still going to see the evolution of this and the public's minds and trump wearing the band is, like i said, as a brilliant prop. now he's pick j d vance or former marine. another brilliant choice that sets the long term control of conservatives, not g o, p establishment. conservatives exact arriving the american public. you know, past the i, i, you know, you have to be careful with the kind of words oversight lee. and then we're in a very unstable, dangerous time, but i really just wanted to like see joe scarborough of basically say hitler has been shot, but we hope he has a quick recovery because that's the, the did the narrative mode that they're in right now. and i don't feel sorry for them go ahead past well i, i repeat it, i don't wanna listen. i don't want to get away from what possibly could be going on kind the scenes, right. i mean, i think what your other guests is alluded to is what they want people to think that this is a left versus right battle. isn't that a possibility that trump can be
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a mature in mandatory and candidly of sorts? i mean, when you sit down and you look at the policies, especially when it comes to foreign policy, they're not that far off. it's trump is not going to pull out of nato. he definitely is. we've been saber rattling with the chinese. and when you bring a guy like ged vance and yeah, he looks good on, on the surface. but when you dig deep, this is a guy who's been funded by peter steele empower and tier. and it trump kits into the, into office right now with everything that's taking place. let's not forget about the patriot act. right. i mean, conservative didn't care about your freedom of speech and your privacy when it was, you know, airbags attacking us or muslims attacking us. they let them just run a mock, that's the conservatives in office. so a trunk gets in the office like that and everybody wants to do whatever he says, we can look to move towards your digital ideas, credit scores, those whole things. so we have to be careful when we see what's going on over here . we'll pass that. i'm going to stay with you here. i absolutely agree with you when big money likes you. there's always a quid pro, quote, okay, let's be honest,
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everybody. alright? i mean that's, this is the way he's unified, the party is unified, the building, their class to at least part of it in his favor right here. so i agree. what's not, you know, it's not jump up and down and do cart wheels. okay. i mean, but scott, a bit more to your point and then, and you know, this is where we have to kind of distill it down. it is, it's also this cultural more the civil war that we're involved in right now. and this is where lines are being drawn. and that's exactly why the american public, they're going to choose donald trump, is they want their attention and energy and tax dollars focused on the restraining of government and the resurrection of the american 1956 these renaissance. they are not interested in war against russia through the proxy ukraine. i don't think neither. donald trump is interesting and interested in israel waging war against iran and turkey and syria and jordan and malaysians, audi ray b and every other muslim country. i don't think donald trump is and,
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and that really is going to uh, take over the, the, the orientation of the compass. donald trump made a lot of mistakes. in his 1st turn. he hired a lot of the foods and traders like tom, john bolton, and mike pump ale and nikki haley who pushed him and it was fascinating, sullen money. how does it feel now when you're in the early assassinated? how would your daughter feel? mr. trump? i know i met general saw him on his daughter when i was in a ron, and i had been very critical of trump on a lot of different material. but moving forward, i think his evidence, that is, if this is more a commentary, i think on the failure of the left and the liberals here, we're going to continue with that discussion. when we go back, we're going to want to go to a short break right now, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on donald jones trump to stay with our team. the
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in the year of 1950 for the united states of america engaged in warfare against the people of vietnam. the white house supported the corrupt above the governments of southern vietnam. in 1965 americans began their invasion following the aim to defeat the forces of vietnamese patriots. defend the gun was conrad meant that the victory would be on the american side, due to its military superiority. however, the vietnam eastern days wore into total health for the occupants. unable to cope with the guerrillas, the american army started blanket bombing alongside using chemical weapons and naples, which burnt all alive. the village of my lay, where he 1969 american soldiers killed 504 civilians,
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including 210 children, became a tragic symbol of this war. all and all. during the whole period of this conflict, the usa dropped on vietnam more than $6000000.00 tons of bonds, which is 2 and a half times as much as on germany during the 2nd world war. in 1973, the american army under the pressure of the rebels, withdrew from vietnam, and only 2 years later did the pop and regime. and so i got involved. however, the vietnamese paid a high price for their freedom. more than 1000000 in vietnamese people became the victims of america in the dressers. the
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welcome at the cross stuff were all things are considered computer lavelle trauma and you were discussing donald trump. the okay, is this one of the program? i'd like to bring in clayton morris. he is in colorado. he's the host of the redacted news podcast, and he's a former fox news anchor. welcome to the program. clayton. you know, in the 1st part of the project, we were obviously talking about the reactions to the assassination attempt. but i'd like to kind of stress, again with you a part of the disc us. and is that i, can you think of a, another moment in recent history may be 911. but this was the moment that we all experienced collectively. and i think it was a very visceral experience. it was irrespective of what you think of donald trump. but seeing this is part of our po, very violent, political culture are very violent foreign policy. it was kind of a, a window into ourselves and it wasn't pretty, go ahead. clayton. yeah,
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and i was speaking to friends who live in other countries and we're trying to understand and wrap their heads around. exactly why there was this sort of catalytic moment. why were so many people sort of rallying around him, whether you were a supporter or not? it seemed that there was this uh, there was a unifying moment over at least for, for a 24 hour period over the past few days. and there's this sort of cowboy bravado, i mean that's what exists in the united states. there's this cowboy bravado you get knocked down, you stand up, you've got blood on your face. i'm going to fight for you regardless of the nuance of policy. regardless of the nuance of what he failed to do in his 1st turn, draining the swamp. all of those things there was this unifying moment. i can't think of another moment in recent history. you go back to 911. when flags suddenly popped up on every house in america after the 911 attacks, regardless of how that unfolded. regardless of the foreign policy of george w bush, seems like americans were able to look past that and come together and seeing the neighbor to neighbor down each street. and i think you're absolutely right about that. unfortunately, that moment have come, rod returned into the war on terror,
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which was the exact last year for it least though not those that were earning money from it, but what people are in the other end of it, um it positive. one of the interesting things is we, when we were finishing the 1st part of the program is that, you know, looking at what donald trump thinks, what he wants to do with his past mistakes. but i'm not gonna let how we got here off the hook and is the, the liberal media, the democrats. i mean, they're there, but they're being punished. you know, they played the victim for so long. and then we saw an image of a victim, and they just don't know how to handle it. okay. and also the image imagery is everything right now. look at j. d vance and look at joe biden. i mean, it's a split screen right now. go ahead. pasta, i still believe what we're seeing, what we're witnessing is kabuki theater. mean clayton mentioned what happened in iraq and a whole, you know, a 911 situation, but i think the people remember what happened and they,
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when you look at the statistics, when you look at poles, how many people now believe that there was something funny going on and $911.00, that number increases every single year. so i think what we're seeing right in front of us right now is nothing more than kabuki theater. and at the end of the day, i reject this kind of notion that donald trump is an anti war candidate. absorbed every year, the military budget went up and it was still stuff going on in syria, and yet he didn't start any new wars, but he didn't the end of the old wars. so i mean, i think people are starting to get their, their finger on the pulse about what's going on. but the unfortunate thing is that the majority of the people, the people when we aren't in our political echo chamber, they bought this and everything that clayton said as far as the bouncing back up. i mean him coming out yesterday to proud to be an american. i heard the other choice was the guy of the tiger, but people just said yesterday that was one of the most startling moments they've seen in politics in quite some time. yeah, i mean it's for me i'm, i think it again, this moment of kind of clarity of being sober of seeing something on filters and
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all of that. and it's got that says a lot more about our political society. we need to be shocked into sobriety. a yes, in a military sense, you have a call to action, you have a attention and men stand up and i think this is the call to attention moment. and the most interesting and potentially positive thing was when trump shook his fist and said, fight fight on the podium. well, those can be translated into every soccer mom. fight the pushing of the transgender agenda in your schools by going and making speeches every uh, you know, an ordinary citizen fight any kind of oppression through diplomatic means through political means through the balance through running for office through legal maneuvers, not through guns or weapons. that's what the liberal left is, lunatics do, not conservative republicans. so the fight fight, fight can be reach,
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reject her eyes towards orienting people to become more, engage, more learned, more studious, more aware that uh, everything that has been said so far about, you know, the criticisms is accurate. but what's most important? and the only thing that matters is moving forward. how does america move forward in the light of the bricks world and the reorientation of, of, of the dollar? the world is not going to tolerate anymore american militarism. so donald trump has no card to play on that. and the american people don't have an appetite for it, but they do have an appetite for reformation of their own country. and the fight fight fight slogan can be a very positive thing to get people really engaged and, and fighting the media by watching alternative media and watching other programs that they actually are nourished by and not turned into skits of frantic spy. it quite and did we, with, with the assassination attempt that we see the latest chapter of the political
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civil war, cultural civil war in the united states in the west, in general? i think so, but i think i what you're talking about here is a, is a fight against past 3 years. seems like we have a short, we have a short memory. and i think in the united states right now, over the past 4 years, we've seen a massive cultural shift to what you guys were just talking about. you're seeing, i cannot remember a time, you can go into a public library in the united states. you're seeing books on transgender isn't. absolutely right. and so this fight fight, fight mullen, for the soccer moms. these individuals who are in these crowd these hard working americans, they might not have that respected understanding of a deep foreign policy connection from president from how much money has been spent yet, you know, in, in ukraine and a funneling of, of billions of dollars into ukraine but they do understand the cost of milk,
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they do understand the cost of bags. and the sticker shock in america right now is absolutely staggering when they go to the pump and they go to fill up their car. and so i think you're, you're seeing this mass of awareness and the saying, yes, we need to go back to where we were 4 years ago in the united states of america. and of trump represents that, that i'm with that sadly, foreign policy in america for voters is always lower down the list. yep. it's always those the kitchen table issues. it's always what it costs to put dinner on the table in america. it's always how much money am i making it, my job. it's those wallet issues. it's the morning and america moments is ronald reagan's ad. so famously talked about waking up waving to your neighbor, seeing a neighbor who's friendly to you, not worrying if you can even unlock your door in the middle of the morning to walk your dog. are you going to see some massive and you know influx of illegal immigrants in your neighborhood snell? intent encampments down the street in your local parks. so those are the things that really resonate with americans. i think. and i think those moments now, or there's a reminder of where we were 3 to 4 years ago. and,
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and so i think there is a massive civil war. there's a massive cultural civil war in the united states. and i think americans want to get back to where they were. they remember that's what this morning in america. and i wish i really wish those foreign policy moments. those foreign policy discussions were much higher on that list. and i hope that a trump administration would pull back that money, but again, i am not, not positive in that, right? well, i have to, i don't think we really base force. i have to lock those separately on our shows, you know, score. so now we can spend billions of dollars more in space again, china. i mean, come on, i hope the people that are surrounding president trump this time around are, are smarter. and now part of this, this swamp the moment that we've had. but yeah, but passive again, you know, we, how do we interpret what we saw, what we saw was what, one of the fundamental problems with what's wrong in america. but it's a given, are they, there are collective discussion here with doesn't necessarily point us in the right
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direction. we know something is wrong, but we will, we go in the right direction because we, you know, we're all the demon is ation of donald trump. he was president for 40 years. okay. and i was less than satisfied with his administration for reasons that have already been mentioned here. and i guess all, all of us here today are far more concerned about foreign policy, then we would get in the mainstream media and, you know, average person go ahead pasta as well because we understand how much money is spent on foreign policy in the death and destruction it brings right people are starting to understand that when the soldiers american soldiers, when they go overseas, even though a lot of them might not die, they come back and they're mentally torn apart. they are addicted to drugs, they're constantly committing suicide on a regular basis. so people do see that, you know, but it was that once again, i mean, this fact is progress that you know, donald trump and you've got to give it up peter, to the social engineers out there, the people who are really running things behind the scenes, they understand what, what's on americans mind
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a lot of the things that clayton mentioned that's what's on their mind. so they understand they only have to move people on a surface level right now. what's in front of them and show them what's going on and get them in the right direction. i think they've been very successful at that, but at the end of the day, there's a lot of us like us who were sitting back. i mean, tom's kid, a trump presidency, ride me a lot of brock obama's presidency. he said all these things before he got it, but once they got it, yeah, the leads were driving the bus. scott were rapidly run out running out of time. it seems to me looking at the reaction, is that when the snipers bullied graze the trump's ear, his followers felt the same pain. i think that's why it was so this rule for so many people, they feel the per, the prosecution, the persecution. and it's in body than him and they, that's why it was a, a moment that we're all going to remember for the rest of our lives. go ahead. scott is very poetic, and very true. peter and, and trump is at the moment that obama was at when he made all these promises. he is
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a martin luther king moment. he is added john f kennedy moment. ask not what your you can do for your asking all what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country trunk can now set the narrative and elevate the conversation in the character of americans and all americans want to feel and think sophisticated and elevated and positive and happy and smiling. and trump can do that by shaping the narrative and the vision and, and not getting into the rancor and the weeds and the phil would, that symbolizes the democrat left. just an and there's, there's no way for and trump, there's no revenge. and he can infect that into the rest of the population. and the buoyancy of his opened optimism with ronald reagan, the animating, a lot of his thoughts carry them through to victory. and that will carry americans above the carbon monoxide of the mainstream media and the anger. well,
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it's really all it's got is i agree with you, but there's one caviar when you have a conversation. you have to have 2 people talking and listening. and i don't know if we're there yet. i know what horrifies us, but how we move forward. big question, mark sale. and so all the time we have gentlemen, i want to take my guess in colorado, i wouldn't beach and in san francisco. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our to see you next time. and remember across on the the 41 percent of us adults have enough savings to cover a $1000.00 emergency. if we have record numbers of americans who are on the verge of having their cars free possess more than
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a 137000000 americans are facing financial hardship because of medical. then in america, we do have a welfare system in place to help people who are struggling financially, but it's a conditional system. you have to prove to the government that you truly need help . the simplest way, like explain the basic income, is that it's like social security for the rest of us, a basic income would be a monthly payments that would go to everyone. just a $1000.00 a month. no strings attached. use i have, i would like them maybe. i don't know. i just won't go crazy. the reason that i am a fan of guaranteed income because it is this idea that everybody is deserve. and then just by virtue of your being here, the, the, the, to me, this one more to personalities been heard
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