the, the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered on peter lavelle. jo biden's, catastrophic debate performance, and the attempted assassination of donald trump. i shattered many narrow escapes about american politics. vitamin isn't as sharp as attack and trumpet isn't an ex, essential for us. officially sanctioned narratives have collapsed the cross talking narratives. i'm joined by my guess, ray mcgovern in raleigh. he is

a former c i a analyst in pittsburgh. we have done cuz alex, he is a professor of law, an author of the case for powell assigned, why it matters in why you should care. and in new york, we cross the line on he is a legal and media analyst. alright gentlemen, cross up roles and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate, i'd like to ask all 3 of you essentially the same question. i'll start out with re, um, the establishment more broadly, more specifically, the liberal eco's fear they have all forfeited the right to be believed. the correct, you know, the big one people, when, when people tell the truth, they are immediately branded. you know, what conspiracy theorist now i welcome being call that because turns out the, the conspiracies that i pointed out on weapons of mass destruction on hacking of

the d. n. c on hunter biden's laptop on said rich, they've all turned out to be not conspiracy theories. are really interesting puzzles and probably true is abusive. what would raise your rate rate went all the way. what's your throw in the attempted assassination attempt considering what we know at the moment. ready well, peter, one always has to look for motive. yes. a good old look at these folks that the disabled trump, the 1st time it made, it made it impossible for him to do the things he said he wanted to do with respect to russia and other places. uh, they not only have that on their record where they have all kinds of other things which states tufty and power to do as call me said the has a we are at the time i was working in an environment where we were sure that

hillary cook joe squared away, haha. so you do extra legal things? well, either it doesn't really matter because you're going to get praise for that. you're doing a promoted, you're not going to go to indict it. now. if tom wins, you know, he's got the goods on these guys, so incentive motive opportunity. my god. just a couple of days before they are in c before conversion. you know, the time was running out. it seems to me that if you need to, so look at most of which you should. then you see that the very, very real people are very danger of losing their freedom. if the truck becomes electric. yeah, because like the same question to you down into that like could throw in again, looking at the assassination attempt to negligence or malice or malicious negligence. yeah, we'll certainly get lease negligence slept or what, what's been coming out is that they, they knew that this guy was posing a threat at least what 20 minutes before he started shooting mate,

and they knew he was there. and he was there with the, the scope, right? they, they, they could tell how part, you know, they could read how far away he was from donald trump. they knew that for at least our people were pointing to the roof, saying there's a shooter up there, long and short of it is manually. this is the greatest uh, you know, act of negligence that we've seen on the part of the secret service. since the candidate, dan, i, are you being generous here? well, i am at a certain way. i mean, look, i don't have any theory, okay, at all. it just the, one of the things that i find really remarkable about this is that nobody needs to explain what i saw. okay? yeah, i don't need filters anymore. okay. they filter, you know, biden's health condition from us. okay. and they, you know, they, hitler, a, donald trump was the next hitler, then you turn around and say,

i hope you get better how, who wants hitler to get better? i mean, none of these people make any sense. and none of these scenarios make sense. i'm sorry to interrupt, you've gone down. no, i mean you're right. i mean, but we have to ask questions. and the problem is one, the questions are asked. the secret service director answers gives responses, but just raise more questions. the idea they didn't, they have a government on the route because it was too slow trying guy gets there and is able to fire shots off it. pretty good ones too. and he's even tell them he doesn't fall through one's gotta ask what's going through the minds of the secret service that they did not. i have that rules covered what again was, you know, dan, but you know why they didn't have it covered? well, maybe they weren't covered lionel, because in cnn started saying there was a shooting incident. shots were fired again. this passive voice,

they always use. there's no predicate. ok. you know, why should we believe these people they have forfeited that right line? first of all, i'm going to double that in my ends the olympics because i, i can't believe what i'm seeing. i, this is the most exciting thing. first of all, very quickly. as gorb, it all said, i'm not a conspiracy theorist. i'm a conspiracy analyst. and number joe, speaking of which isn't, it's funny how all of these people who all of a sudden called me a conspiracy, there is parentheses the truth. now i heard something and i don't want to mention by name, but her initials are joy, read on m. s. d, i see who said and i quote listen to this one who said, you know, what's interesting, how can we compare and 81 year old man who contracts co vid they with the cpr good works, but it was but who,

who was covered with somebody who who miraculously had 9 minutes to i guess for jord, create some photo op. i'm thinking, you know, that's good. and also they said, i think maybe the year might have been a tele prompt or that smash or maybe and i'm thinking you're calling me against very, very at least my the just by the side kotik. i mean, get, well, i mean like, oh, i want to be the absurdity of it is let me throw it back to re the absurdity of that is that people actually died during the event. so, i mean, if you want to say, you know, you know, it was a, uh, a re, uh, a company got shaving and, but their dead bodies. i mean, these people, they think were fools re, uh yeah, uh, i know sometimes you can answer very briefly. yes. they take us for full because they have, uh they have most of the media repeating whatever needs to be said initially. and

finally, how long did it take, or that'd be um, the to be to be revealed. well, we said 2 months before i was reveal 6 years after when they couldn't find that one weapon of mass destruction. how about this? how about russian hacking of the d and c? that was the f b. i looked into that. all right. it was revealed on december 5 and almost congressional testimony, december 5, 2017. and most americans don't know one word about that. there was no hacking at the end, so you'd have to pay that versus not by anybody else. so all these things take a little bit of time to, to flush out. unfortunately, we only have a couple of months now with binding saying on wednesday, or the, you know, all is sickness or no unless could you make them 3 think. and then i'm on thursday

saying i covered that i can't really walk row even worse than before. you know, you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist says, hey, well, maybe he got the word on wednesday. that may be something that somebody was breathing near uh nearby, you know, who had the virus you know, and biting typically had no mask on for god's sake. so what all the other people, how does that play? you know, they gotta get tested right away because they probably could attractive. it is really bizarre. i'm not seeing the like of it been around quite a while. you know, dan, you know, the, the line on i had a bit, a bit of a heated discussion on a expenses yesterday about, you know, how this is going to sit with people and how, what kind of self life it has the, the read towards what mistakes were made that's not going to hold water. it doesn't know that's not gonna hold water this time. go ahead den. well, how can it, i mean, they had one job, you know, the line you had one job to do, right? you had one job and they blew it. a heads have to roll. i mean, they had,

the secret service will have to resign or be fire. this was an incredible, again, minimally minimally any credit to, uh, you know, sugar coat is. everyone is saying the video, they're hearing the testimony remaining, that it got b, b. c. who said he saw the guy in the room. he told the cops about um what has been seen to not be on said, thank god we have things like twitter. ha, i mean, but, but then again, you know, i'm not a ballistics expert, i'm not a gun person at all, but i mean i, i just can't get my head around it. so they're watching the guy on a roof with a gun. he made a start shooting and then they showed him. okay, well, you know, i, i don't think it's a civil rights matter who at this point, you know, i mean you've got to take the guy out. the guy's got a gun. is that a roof?

what can you explain to me in any rational universe? why that sequence work that way? no, i can't. and i can't either. because when they didn't station any one on the roof, somebody? no, it wasn't there guy. right? i mean, no, it shouldn't be there. and then now for a matter of again, it sounds like it sounds like, yeah, but my, i mean that's what it sounds like you're trying to convince is a oh, a guy on a roof with a gun. well, that's not our priority. that's their bill. it's somebody else's book, i mean that's what it sounds like. we're gonna leave it to the butler police. the guys who put least the fair grounds. i mean it's, it's a comprehensive record. what people are saying is they knew long enough of the problem that they shouldn't have even let trump take just a job. that's what they want to do. they want it, they want to shut them down. alright gentlemen, and we're going to go to a hard break and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on changing narrative state without doing

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resist the welcome back across black. we're all things are considered. i'm peter roosevelt. to mind you were discussing changing narratives the you know, line. oh it, one of the things i have come across it was someone i don't remember because it was so i've been watching so many podcasts and watch and whatnot. but the phrase accusations turn into confessions, which is something that is very interesting. i wish i could quote the person that said it, but that's exactly every accusation that we've been. we've heard against the enemies of the narrative, the by the normative narrative, you know, it ends up being itself a confession. so, by the way, whenever you don't know the source, you say solve a lensky and people say, oh yes, very, even though they have no idea who he is,

you don't in our particular cuz the rhetorical are ago, a lot happened. my hop, let it happen on purpose or make it happen on purpose. are perfect. and gentlemen, what i want you to understand in the peter, when you, when i talked about this all the time. i was 5 years old for kennedy. i didn't see it as a prude or film until night, the 75 or so when when hernando came along, we now have we have remember? yeah, i don't need it immediately by virtue god bless eli musk. i'm a trial lawyer by profession. i've got a 1000 expert witnesses like that? retired c, i a retired secret service. don't don't ray mcgovern. you at people who come out of the woodwork, snipers from every conceivable country immediately. and me. well, some porsche mock at 7 o'clock isn't cable news. that's what am i going to do? it's already been done. we know more now,

then i have for and what information are created pretty goal is that information is the currency is not really quick, don't it's information and data you can't pull the will override anymore. and yet the heritage legacy media still believe this is the age of, of, of, of cronkite this ted baxter. they honestly think that by gigi some ridiculous narrative that nobody believe we're already on the next page. everything is changed . peter, you want, i talked about all the time. every biggest change up is down, left is right. people that i never even liked before and quote of social media platforms. now i'm going to end the people who i thought you helped me with pretty good are hacks are nothing but show. there's a reversal of what we are doing right now. gentlemen, it's so revolutionary because we're not,

we're not impeded by the usual interrupt is from people trying to say don't, don't, but the fact that i agree with you line and let me throw now back to re, well, i'd say it's funny that these people still have power, okay. this they, the secret service is still quote, involve protecting donald trump. they work for the regime. um, you know, and then they, they come out with always different stories and, or what's true and what's not true. it seems like they're trying to flood the field right now. i think it's try to confusing people because in, in my position hosting this program, i want to be careful what i want when i say, okay, i'm not just going to repeat anything i heard. so it makes me very careful. go ahead, right? well, you put your, your finger on it. who's in charge of who's running this mess, who is giving orders to the secret service? my god. there are so many anomalies. so many deficiencies,

too many accumulated for my taste. now, lionel just mentioned of the twitter guy must, okay. he was interviewed yesterday and somebody said, well, you know, i, it sounds like it's a conspiracy theorist theory and much as well. you know, there are a lot of conspiracy theories that come come true. like for example, hunters laptop get about just a little more than for less than 4 years ago. that the i had the laptop for years. okay. they, they had like up to you for a whole year. okay. now that any of those $51.00 former intelligence directors check with the of the i before the issue to say about this, the tax. all right or bar, what did they always do? they are marks, they always pull the credentials all over. these people have credentials. okay. you know, you know they, they're, they're um, regina approved, okay,

that's what they're trying to do. was the, to us all the time. you know, they are then, you know, one of the problems that, you know, i, if you look at this on the 30000 feet in the air, there's an enormous amount of institutional rots going on. it says, not these people in the media. they get paid well to be disabled, they say, but i mean, the secret service falling apart. i mean, you know, none of us are young on this program. i will remember the f, b i the series tv series, you know, i mean, likely that was something you looked up to. it's something that i'm afraid of now. then. yeah, no, it seems like, you know, the secret service is now turned into the keystone cops. yes. but you know, is the, is the russian say the head rods from the are the fish rods from the head. right. and of course we got the highest did our commander and she, we serious cognitive deficiencies, which again maybe is tried the denied for months and for years. and again,

just by what we see and what we're big for us. oh, easy. yeah. he's fine. he's a star and here in ages it's really live a little bit if you question is cognitive abilities. but then finally again, it's now impossible to deny. now the media's trying to backtrack and this is what happens all the time. you know, ray, of course, benches the weapons of mass destruction. you had the new york times, judith miller, the new york times. who pushed that line in the course that came out. she was just repeating c, i a talking points and, but it took a long time for the new york times to finally kind of sheepishly say, wow, i guess maybe there were weapons of mass destruction, you know, 1000000 lives later or whatever. and by the way, judith miller, i think, is now working with cnn. i was on some sort of panel of why i know she made appearances on fox. but when i stopped watching fox, when they fired tucker,

but um, she was on fox now she's on cnn. great, okay, great. now let's put that back. i was on a panel they introduced, here's jude poland, surprise, one in judith miller from cnn thing. and, oh, she did some other things to do. you know, the matter doesn't matter. right. uh, she has the credentials, as you say, no matter what she did. so now the washington is assess full. the main stream price is assess full and the people are saying that they, they know line of the, you know, again, i don't want to do it on this program to attempt to defend definitive understanding of the assassination attempt. but these people are still in power, and trump is still a candidate and we have much time ahead. i mean, if he is an ex essential threat, there's so many of his enemies claim then he's,

he's fair game. i mean by there, very definition, lionel to peter, i'm, i, i told you i'm, i'm a trial lawyer and, and i go to juries and i have them sometimes rule on whether a neuro surgery was mistaken, or whether there was a drug interaction, you know, common sense is, is really the key or an ordinary people, if you present them, the facts can make a variety of, of decisions. i'm going to tell you something as an aside here. you know, it's funny how we live in, in these, these names and the semiotics and imagery. remember the young girl in vietnam who was running down the road. it covered a nape. um and, and there was the, the, the monk who was on fire just john john saluting his father in this latest incarnation of the mima which is completely just just remove the part of

cartoon. is this melissa mccarthy, butterball the secret service bar b, who was trying to get this whole stir her weapon who was too short to even protect anybody. and out of i remember she might have been an angel every person, but it doesn't matter just like the solo, a gentleman square when we log onto something. and there is, there is something right now which may not make sense to most people. but this is the end of d, e i and d, i was the, the met a static version of affirmative action and quoted. and with the i, a lot of people are saying, well, wait a minute. if d e i is wrong. what about b l am i? well line, okay, final pol pot practice a form of it also. okay, was a different name, but you know, the, this is the kind of mentality uh, uh that we have to face res. were on uh, in uncharted waters right now. are you worried between now and november?

i am who's who still in charge. you know. there are 2 hopeful signs as i see them. one is that is my good friend, joe. now are you from consortium news rights? there are hundreds of supportive films and then that suppression for years. okay, that's one thing. the other thing as elan, musk says lot about these conspiracy theories look at hunter's laptop there that was suppressed by x by, by twitter at the time suppressed by all of these are the people it was suppressed longer enough for joe biden to win the election. okay, that's what kind of happened on my watches. a lot of my so you have those to help pull science, but you're right peter, to come back to reality and say, who's still in charge? well, we know how it schumer and rachel matto warned. the president would be 3 weeks papers and all your rating, say, look,

you don't mess around with the intelligence community help because they have 6 ways to sunday to get back catch it. they'll be foolish and come what's polish did. then we have one minute left to wait. we often talked about the october surprise was the october surprise in july or we still waiting for october 1 minute . go ahead. yeah, there is a lot of time for more october surprises to come on. fortunately, and when i, i hope it does it manifest itself in, in, in increased conflict in the world. you know, because i'm afraid my crowds may want to expand the work. for example, i get not to, to try to when i agree and it cool. and the crowds have been pushing this hate russia campaign since 2016. so yeah, like why we see here is that we see escalation in foreign policy and we're seeing an escalation and this is x and cycle and all of it is tied to violence

and we see it abroad. and unfortunately we're seeing it is rep, reminiscent of the 19 sixty's. unfortunately, gentleman, that's all the time we have a one, i think my guess in raleigh, pittsburgh and in new york. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t c. you next time. remember process the the me, this one more to personalities. been this is the most always displayed the loading on the, on the 2nd, but to pull it out and give them the same uh, the most value of the skin they will buy. she really easy to look in. yeah. with

them to me like what the issue the most the i will give you the thought, the a little guy know are you the other day you know, to go in and even throw both of them good place the the level of, again the, there's going, there's the guys that, that she to go into, the low ceiling buzzer will be, i mean, they've been dealing with nearly money bits of show namespace sort of see, read down could have been yet a letter was just monday, or they going if could, they will gasket on monday, did you want to give us a community dock? a busy by law. got a warranty, but she's the committee goes empty. i'm the i mean don't most the going through. i'm we a multi danielle and she be the be i one of all the go on beyond what he did not turn on. but kick was it, give him a go down to see what will be the look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a

robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except we're so shorter is that conflict with the 1st law show alignment of the patient. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence at the point, obviously is to trace a truck rather than fit the area. i mean with artificial intelligence, we have so many with him in the a robot most protects his phone existence was alexis, the breaking news. this our a major i t a t h, this ropes, global network communication systems with her port spelling flights as well as

on tv channels going on there users cannot gain access. we're following the developing story both. so there was blood boring everywhere. and yet in a certain way, i felt very safe because i had god on my side the divine intervention now to donald trump say say content from deaf supporters of the