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let's do that next. peters here. let's do the the the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered on peter lavelle. jo biden's, catastrophic debate performance, and the attempted assassination of donald trump. i shuddered. many narrow escapes about american politics vitally. it isn't as sharp as attack and trumpet isn't an ex essential threat. officially sanctioned narratives have collapsed the
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cross talking narratives. i'm joined by my guess, ray mcgovern in raleigh. he was a former c. i a analyst in pittsburgh. we have done college. he is a professor of law, an author of the case for palestine. why it matters in why you should care. and in new york we cross the line on he is a legal and media analyst or a gentleman cross type rules, and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate, i'd like to ask all 3 of you. essentially the same question, i'll start out with re, um, the establishment more broadly, more specifically, the liberal ecosphere. they have all forfeited the right to be believed. correct. you know, the big one people, when, when people tell the truth, they are immediately branded. you know, what conspiracy theorist now i welcome being call that because turns
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out the, the conspiracies that i pointed out on weapons of mass destruction on hacking of the d. n. c on hunter biden's laptop on said rich, have all turned out to be a conspiracy. theories are really interesting puzzles and probably true is abuse of the range. so right where you want to compare with ray, which you throw in the attempted assassination attempt considering what we know at the moment. ready well, peter, one always has to look for motive. yes. a look at these folks that the disabled truck, the 1st time it made, it made it possible for him to do the things. he said, the one that you do with respect to russia and other places, they not only have that on the record where they have all kinds of other things which safe self to empower to do. that is call me said the has
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a we are at the time i was working in an environment where we were sure that hillary clinton was going to win. haha. so you do extra legal things? well, you know, doesn't really matter because you're going to get praise for that. you're doing it promoted. you're not going to go to dated. now. if tom wins, you know, he's got the goods on these guys. so incentive. mojdeh is, uh, opportunity. my god, just a couple of days before they are and see before your version. uh, you know, the time was running out. it seems to me that if you need to look at most of which you should know when you see that the very, very real people are very danger of losing their freedom. if the truck becomes electric. yeah, because like the same question to you, dan and black like to throw in, again, looking at the assassination attempt to negligence or malice or malicious negligence. yeah, we'll certainly get lease negligence. what, what,
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what's been coming out is that they, they knew that this guy was posing a threat at least what 20 minutes before he started shooting mate, and they knew he was there. and he was there with the, the scope, right? they, they, they could tell how part, you know, they could read how far away he was from donald trump. they knew that for at least our people were pointing to the roof, saying there's a shooter up there, long and short of it is minimally, this is the greatest uh, you know, act of negligence that we've seen on the part of the secret service. since the candidate is dan, or are you being generous here? well, i am at a certain way. i mean, look, i don't have any theory, okay, at all. it just it. one of the things that i find really remarkable about this is that nobody needs to explain what i saw. okay? you don't need filters anymore, okay?
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they filter, you know, biden's health condition from us. okay? so they, you know, they've hitler, donald trump was the next hitler, then you turn around and say, i hope you get better how. who wants hitler to get better? i mean, none of these people make any sense. and none of these scenarios make sense. i'm sorry to interrupt, keep going down. no, i mean, you're right. i mean, but we have to ask questions. and the problem is, one of the questions are asked. the secret service director answers gives responses that just raised more questions. the idea, they didn't have a government on the roof because it was too slow. it was from you on the one train guy gets there and is able to fire shots off it. pretty good ones too. and he's even tell that he doesn't fall through one's gotta ask what's going through the minds of the secret service that they did not have that room cupboard. what
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again, what do you know, dan? but you know why they didn't have it covered? well, maybe they weren't covered lionel, because in cnn started saying there was a shooting incident. shots were fired again. this passive voice, they always use. there's no predicate. ok. you know, why should we believe these people they have forfeited that, right? why know? first of all, i've read a double that in my ends the olympics because i, i can't believe what i'm seeing. i, this is the most exciting thing. first of all, very quickly. as gorb, it all said, i'm not a conspiracy theorist. i'm a conspiracy analyst. and number joe, speaking of which isn't, it's funny how all of these people who all of a sudden called me a conspiracy, there is parentheses the truth. now i heard something and i don't want to mention by name, but her initials are joy, read on m. s. b, i c o said, and i quote listen to this one who said, you know, what's interesting, how can we compare and 81 year old man who contracts cove did they with the cpr
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good works pretty well. but who, who was covered with somebody who, who miraculously had 9 minutes to i guess for jord, create some photo op. i'm thinking, you know, that's good. and also they said, i think maybe the year might have been a tele prompt or that smash or maybe and i'm thinking you're calling me against very, very at least minus the just by the side kotik. i mean, get, well, i mean, live, oh, i wanted the absurdity of it is let me throw it back to rate the absurdity of that is that people actually died during the event. so, i mean, if you want to say, you know, you know, it was a, a rate, a cut that he got, what, shaving it, but there are dead bodies. i mean, these people, they take more fools re, uh yeah, uh, i know it sometimes you can answer very briefly. yes,
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they take us for full because they have, uh, they have most of the media repeating whatever needs to be said initially. and finally, how long did it take, or that'd be um, the, to be, to be revealed? well, we said 2 months before, it was reveal 6 years after when they couldn't find that one weapon of mass destruction. how about this? how about russian hacking of the d n. c? that was the f b. i looked into that. all right. it was revealed on december 5 and almost congressional testimony, december 5, 2017. and most americans, though no one worried about that there was no hacking at the end, so you'd have to pay that versus not by anybody else. so all these things take a little bit of time to, to flush out. unfortunately, we only have a couple of months now with binding saying on wednesday, or that you know, all a,
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a sickness or an illness, could you make them 3 thing? and then on, on thursday saying, i got covered that i can't really walk row even worse than before. you know, you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist says, hey, well, maybe he got the word on wednesday. it may be some, somebody was breathing near uh, nearby, you know, who had the virus you know, and bite and typically had no mask on for god's sake. so what all the other people on that plane, you know, they got a good test right away because they probably could attractive. it is really bizarre . i'm not seeing the like of it been around quite a while. you know, dan, you know, the, the, a line on, i had a bit, a bit of a heated discussion on the x spaces yesterday about, you know, how this is going to sit with people and how it, what kind of self life it has the, the read towards what mistakes were made, that's not gonna hold water. it doesn't know that's not gonna hold water this time
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. go ahead den. well, how can it? i mean, they had one jack, you know the line. you had one job to do, right? you had one job and they blew it up. heads have to, well, i mean they had the secret service will have to resign or be fired. and this was an incredible, again, minimally minimal like an incredible lapse in, in doing their job to the point that again, it raises the question, was their attention behind? and obviously those are the questions that are being asked and they have to be asked. they should be asked because everything that has happened leads to that question. uh, no matter how you look at it again, as was mentioned, it doesn't matter what the press says, it doesn't matter. there tends to, uh, you know, sugar coat is. everyone is see the video, they're hearing the testimony that it got b, b,
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c. who said he saw the guy in the room. he told the cops about um what has been seen to not be on saying and thank god we have things like twitter. ha, i mean, but, but then again, you know, i'm not a ballistics expert, i'm not a gun person at all, but i mean i, i just can't get my head around it. so they're watching the guy on a roof with a gun. he a started shooting and then they showed him. okay, well, you know, i, i don't think it's a civil rights matter who at this point, you know, i mean, you got to take the guy out. the guy's got a gun. he's on a roof. what can you explain to me in any rational universe? why that sequence work that way? no, i can't. and i can't either because they didn't station any one on the roof. somebody? no, it wasn't there guy. right? i mean, you shouldn't be there. and then now for a battery of, again,
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it sounds like it sounds like, yeah, but my, i mean that's what it sounds like you're trying to convince is a guy on a roof with a gut. well, that's not our priority. that's their bill. it's somebody else is because, i mean, that's what it sounds like. we're gonna leave it to the butler police. the guys in police, the fair grounds. i mean it's, it's in comprehend the court. what people are saying is they knew long enough of the problem that they shouldn't have been even let trunk take just a job. that's what they want to do. they want it, they want to shut them down. alright gentlemen, and we're going to go to a hard break and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on changing narrative. stay with our to the the, the claims of the king of the belgians liberal. the 2nd to the congo were finally
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authorized by the leading european countries in 18. 85. in the very heart of the african continent states under the rule of the belgian monarch was declared. since the beginning, the congo free state was total may him for the local population and function as a universal concentration camp. the majority of the population, including women and children, were poor still work on the rubber plantations. those who failed to fulfill their quota were beaten and mutilated to keep the congo these people under control. the king set up the so called forest bleak which were punitive detachments that cast terror on the cab should country and its inhabitants varying that their subordinates would simply waste bullets hunting for wild animals. the officers demanded that the soldiers gave an answer for every bullet use, and as proof presented a job hand of an african,
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it was not uncommon when trying to justify the use of the munition. the calling is to have your date of the hands of not only those who were dead, but also of those who were kept alive. the atrocious exploitation of the congo turned into a real genocide. you know, late 20 years, the policy of the belgians laid into the depth of nearly 10000000 people alongside the holocausts. the genocide of the congo population is considered to be one of the greenest pages in the history of mankind. the more to present what is been the honey this is the most of us displayed on the 2nd, but to fully out and give them the say the most value of what would have done most
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scale new will by she really is you still looking the i want them to me like what the did you name will see i will give you like what the sheet, a little guy know are you the diagnosed you go in and people throw both of them good for the size of the level of again the go into a subsidy days, i mean the guys that, that should have go into the low ceiling rather than will be. i know me, they've been dealing with nearly many bits of shoney's face or to see we don't get up and get a little just for the monday or they go and it's good. they will gasket on monday. did you want to give us a community dock? a part of this you by law got one and 2, but she's the committee goes empty. i'm the, i mean the must have gone through. i'm we a multi danielle and she be that will be i one of all the go on beyond what he did not. so now let's get close it. give us a good. oh it does. it will be the
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welcome back to across like, were all things are considered? i'm peter roosevelt. to mind you were discussing changing narratives. the you know, line. oh it, one of the things i have come across it was someone i don't remember because it was so i've been watching so many podcasts and watch and whatnot. but the phrase of accusations turn into confessions, which is something that is very interesting. i wish i could quote the person that said it, but that's exactly every accusation that we've been. we've heard against the enemies of the narrative, the by the normative narrative, you know, it ends up being itself a confession. by the way, whenever you don't know the source, you say, saw a lensky, people say, oh yes, very. even though they have no idea who he is, you don't in our particular cuz the rhetorical r ago, lot happened. my hop, let it happen on purpose or make it happen on purpose. are perfect. and gentlemen
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what i want you to understand in the peter, you and i talked about this all the time. i was 5 years old for kennedy. i didn't see it as a prude. or film until night, the 75 or so when when hernando came along we now have we have remember yeah, i don't need and immediately by virtue god bless eli musk. i'm a trial lawyer by profession. i've got a 1000 expert witnesses like that retired c. i a free tire secret service, the re, mcgovern you at people who come out of the woodwork, snipers from every conceivable country, immediately and meanwhile, some poor schmuck at 7 o'clock isn't cable news. that's what am i going to do? it's already been done. we know more now than ever and what information is a pretty pretty goal? is that information is the currency is not really quick,
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don't it's information and data you can't pull the will override anymore. and yet the heritage legacy media still believe this is the age of, of, of, of cronkite this ted baxter. they honestly think that by changing some ridiculous narrative that nobody believe we're already on the next page. everything is changed . peter, you what i talked about all the time. every biggest change up is down, left is right. people that i never even liked before and quote of social media platforms. now i'm going to end the people who i thought you helped me with pretty good are hacks are nothing but show there's a reversal. and what we're doing right now, gentlemen, it's so revolutionary because we're not, we're not impeded by the usual interruptus from people trying to say don't, don't, but the fact that i agree with you line and let me throw now back to re, let's say it's funny that these people still have power, okay. this is the,
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the secret service is still quote, involve protecting donald trump. they work for the regime, you know, and then they, they come out with always different stories and, or what's true and what's not true. it seems like they're trying to flood the field right now. i think it's try to confusing people because in, in my position hosting this program, i want to be careful what i want when i say, okay, i'm not just going to repeat anything i heard. so it makes me very careful. go ahead, right? well, you put your finger on it, who's in charge of who's running this mess? who is giving orders to the secret service? my god. there are so many anomalies. so many deficiencies, too many accumulated for my taste. now, lionel just mentioned of the twitter guy must,
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okay. he was interviewed yesterday and somebody said, well, you know, i, it sounds like its conspiracy theorist. clear hurry and muscles and, well, you know, there are a lot of conspiracy theories that come come true. like for example, hunters laptop get about just a little more than for less than 4 years ago. that the i had the laptop for years. okay. they, they had the back up to you for a whole year. okay. now, did any of those 51 former intelligence directors check with the of the i before the soonest. they ever this the tax rate or bar but so they always do their work. they always pull the credentials all over. these people have credentials, okay. you know, you know, they, they're, they're um, regina approved, okay, that's what they're trying to do was the, to was all the time. you know, they are then, you know, one of the problems that, you know, i, if you look at this on the 30000 feet in the air,
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there's an enormous amount of institutional rocks going on. it says, not these people in the media. they get paid well to be the say what they say, but i mean, the secret service falling apart. i mean, you know, none of us are young on this program. i will remember the f, b i the series tv series, you know, i mean, likely that was something you looked up to. it's something that i'm afraid of now. then. yeah, no, it seems like, you know, the secret service is now turned into the keystone cops. yes. but you know, is the, is the russian say the, the, the head rods from the are the fish rods from the head. right. and of course we got the highest did our commander and she, we serious cognitive deficiencies, which again maybe is tried the denied for months and for years. and again, just by what we see and what we're big for us. oh yeah, he's fine. he's starting and here in ages you're a really live
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a little get if you question is cognitive abilities. but then finally again, it's now impossible to deny. now the media is trying to back track and this is what happens all the time. you know, ray, of course, mentioned the weapons of mass destruction. you had the new york times, judith miller, the new york times. who pushed that line in the course that came out. she was just repeating c, i a talking points and, but it took a long time for the new york times to finally kind of sheepishly say, well, i guess maybe they weren't weapons of mass destruction, you know, 1000000 lives later or whatever. and by the way, judith miller, i think it's now work and cnn. i was on some sort of panel. why i know she made appearances on fox. i stopped watching fox when they fired tucker, but she was on fox. now. she's on cnn. great. okay, great. now let's put that back. i was on a panel they introduced, here's ju,
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pulitzer prize winning judith miller from cnr thing. and she did some other things to do, you know, but it doesn't matter. doesn't matter. right. uh, she has the credentials, as you say, no matter what she did. so now the washington is assessed for the main stream. price is assessed for and the people are saying that they, they know line of the, you know, again, i don't want to do it on this program to attempt to defend definitive understanding of the assassination attempt. but these people are still in power, and trump is still a candidate and we have much time ahead. i mean, if he is an ex, essential threat as so many of his enemies claim, then he's, he's fair game. i mean, by their very definition. lionel to peter, i'm, i, i told you i'm, i'm a trial lawyer and, and i go to the jury's and i have them sometimes rule on whether
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a neuro surgery was mistaken, or whether there was a drug interaction, you know, common sense is, is really the key or an ordinary people, if you present them, the facts can make a variety of, of, of decisions. i'm going to tell you something as an aside here. you know, it's funny how we live in these, these names and the semiotics and imagery. remember the young girl in vietnam who was running down the road, it covered a ne apartment, and there was the monk who was on fire just john john, saluting his father. in this latest incarnation of the mima which is completely just just remove the political cartoon. is this melissa mccarthy butterball a secret service barbie who was trying to get this whole stir her weapon who was too short to even protect anybody and other i remember she might have been an
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angel every person, but it doesn't matter. just like to follow a gentleman square when we log on to something and there is, there is something right now which may not make sense to most people. but this is the end of d, e i n d i was the, the mother studied version of affirmative action and quotas. and with the i, a lot of people are saying, well wait a minute. if the e i is wrong. what about b l am? i well line on line or pol pot practice the form of it also. okay. it was a different name, but you know, the, this is the kind of mentality uh, we have to face rate were on uh, in uncharted waters right now. are you worried between now and november? i am who's who still in charge? you know. there are 2 hopeful signs as i see them. one is that
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is my good friend, joe. now are you from consortium news rights? there are hundreds of separative homes and then that suppression for years. okay, that's one thing. the other thing, as elan must says, look about this conspiracy. there is look at hunter's laptop there that was suppressed by x by, by twitter at the time suppressed by all of these other people. it was suppressed longer enough for joe biden to win the election. okay. that's so i kind of half of them are watches a lot of musk, so you have those to help pull science. but you're right peter, to come back to reality and say, who's still in charge? well, we know how it schumer and rachel, matto warned. the president would be 3 weeks papers and all you're reading say, look, you don't mess around with the intelligence community help because they have 6 ways to sunday. the gift bag catcher, they'll be foolish and come with polish debt. then we have one minute
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left and we we often talked about the october surprise was the october surprise in july or we still waiting for october 1 minute. go ahead. i mean, yeah, there is a lot of time for more october surprises to come on. fortunately, and when i, i hope it doesn't manifest itself in, in, in increased conflict in the world. you know, because i'm afraid my crowds may want to expand the work, for example, i get not to to try to when i agree and it cool. and the crowds have been pushing this hate russia campaign since 2016. so yeah. why, why we see here is that we see escalation in foreign policy and we're seeing an escalation. and this is x and cycle and all of it is tied to violence and we see it abroad. and unfortunately, we're seeing it, it's rep, reminiscent of the 19 sixty's. unfortunately, gentleman,
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that's all the time we have a one, i think my guess in raleigh, pittsburgh and in new york. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our dc. you next time. remember process the acceptance. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show . seriously. why watch something that's so different. whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do have the state department, the c i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't want my show stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time. but again,
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it's not. we don't want to watch it because it might just change the way. instead, the look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings accept. we're so charters at conflict with the 1st law show alignment as a patient. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence at the point, obviously is to trace a truck rather than to the area. i mean with artificial intelligence, we have so many with the in the most protect this phone existence was on
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the plains grounded with thousands of passengers affected news channels off the bank. offline. a huge i t outage pulls is titled to global networks communication systems west following the developing story. also to come there was blood boring everywhere and yet in a certain way i felt very safe because i had god on my side the divine and to then said not to donald. trump says saved him from death as his support to continue to question how the secret. so i was allowed last weekend's, this fascination attempt to a copy and.

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