to end the conflict in new crate, if he takes up presidency again in the oval office, but will he follow trim has promised that the president global issues are dealt into next month. going under broad. the i'm action or ton said welcome back to going under the rule, cussing all around the world from you a. i mean, it's the ongoing u. k. u. s. you um, because of genocide it's been a week since the likely next president of the usa survived to show up to the head and suspicious. second stance is the pennsylvania assassination attempt on trump came off the years of u. s. military industrial media censorship. complex attacks on him for being an

unpredictable 7th. i've only got a power, as opposed to the faithful demented lap dog binding will either make any difference to the slaughter of ukrainians in palestinians in the us proxy was, or in the streets of protest rather than the elections. they owned the peaceful means, open to americans, wanting an end to us international was on the pool. a reason why i supreme court decision is defective band political protest in louisiana, mississippi, and texas. next week the onset coalition will try to surround the capital building in washington, dc. they will dive on the arrest all of these really pm. net and yahoo! as the address is the us congress. brian becker is the national director of the onto coalition and joins me now from washington dc. brian, thank so much for thank you. thanks so much about coming on, you mean organizing demonstrations in the streets, publishing against the powerful for, for decades. i mean, how does it come to this, you needing to protest the idea of a netanyahu accused of genocide addressing your corrupt politicians next week and

the capital in dc as well as the 1st time that netanyahu was addressed both houses of congress when president obama was pursuing the iran nuclear arms deal so called netanyahu came to both houses of congress and basically trashed the most important foreign policy objective of the den, sitting president of the united states. and again, he received standing ovations from both sides of the aisle. it's even more disgraceful, though this time much more disgraceful because the whole world has watched in real time in real time. a genocide carried out by netanyahu orchestrated by netanyahu. netanyahu is a singular person who has done the most to prevent a ceasefire from taking place, and for netanyahu to come at this moment to speak before both houses of congress to receive a hero's welcome heroes. welcome from both of the establishment parties. it's

a real disgrace prior to his address to congress, you will be meeting with buying in the white house on july 22nd. so we have protests going on for all 3 days, but on july 24th, when he speaks before both houses of congress, tens of thousands of americans, of all walks of life will be surrounding the capitals, a note of genocide and saying yes, no, you know who should be arrested, as a matter of fact, we're going to have a giant arrest warrant, which people can not only observe and hold, but sign on to. and again, this is a mass movement that exists in the united states. it's something really different for palestine. it's been going on since october 8th, the day when the is really massacre is really began. and we see a see change in consciousness at the grass roots in america. but in congress, it's the same old congress, the same old, polluted credit congress tied,

and they have a to the is really war machine. yeah. polls throw 64 percent of us. the us public one day sees 5 despite to biden's own boy to the you and, and it's almost greenfield, putting a hand up to veto the ceasefire at the un security council. famously as to the different and it's by pauses and those demonstrations you are helping to organize the best through the difference between trump. uh, the expected president in november and by b would, is the full cost that trump would just speed up with a genocide. whereas buying and we'll keep it at his current pace, or would trump do something to save the lives of all those millions of palestinians who now face death for uh, salvation or a life changing injury? yeah, i think the, the variable here is what's going on in the ground in gossum and what's going on in the ground throughout the middle east. and i would include their 11 on the left to their own druthers, so to speak, both buying and trump would,

would want netanyahu. they have a full, all our military victory, destroyed a mouse and the palestinian resistance once in trial. but that's not possible. and so if the aspiration of trump or binding is to completely eliminate the palestinian people and they're just struggle for self determination and freedom. um they're, they're kidding themselves. that's not going to happen. even now after 9 months by this powerful is really military under the t being re supplied with tens of billions of dollars of weapons, including 2000 pound bonds, $1800.00 pound bombs by the pentagon. and they haven't secured their military objectives of the defeat of the palestinian resistance. they have succeeded in killing a lot of people. they've succeeded in killing a lot of children and their mothers and their grandparents. they've succeeded in

making people and guys a homeless and succeeded in and causing famine, but they haven't succeeded militarily so in terms of whether trump or buying will be a decisive difference, it's not all up to them. yes, they have a lot of power. yes, they have a big military, but the palestinian resistance has shown by its resilience that it's not able to be conquered at this point. but where is from clearly and is vice president norman edi vance clearly favor a ceasefire agreement or piece agreement about the war in europe of things daddy von to said, let alone what trump has done and said, it shows that it any expanded war into lebanon, into iran, syria rock would be more likely under a trump presidency than under by ministration, or it doesn't really make any difference. i should have the biden is feeling the race at the time of this recording. well, let's think back just we can,

we can. i prophesies, based on some reason history uh, by a trump ordered the execution of general. so a money in the big there airport, january 3rd, 2020 of pro ronnie and forces in the region and around itself, retaliated and struck us military bases, interact. they struck 12 of them, and after that, trump, instead of retail heading back actually stood, stood down. because the us realized that if they went forward with this, you more are full scale war with iran. us forces would suffer very heavy casualties . they're very vulnerable throughout the middle east. so again, if it's, if it was just up to trump, i think trump would be a you know, glad to be a partner in genocide, a real, a complete genocide of buying a, maybe not a full complete genocide to complete the extinguishing of the palestinian people in

guys a but certainly embracing that, yahoo is objectives of all our military victory. so i think in that sense they're both the same. trump is more less prudent. let's put it then some of the us, other policy makers more reckless. i'm are open to publication, but i think it aspirational either about the same and i can, i think their power, though is limited by the blinking sullivan. they've been clear that these was a good for the us economy. quite brazen about the idea that hundreds of thousands of ukrainians killed on the battlefield. and the proxy war on russia is good for business and good for ordinary work is in the united states. how do you way up the what it means for a blue collar workers, the american cottage. famously, as the expression went in the trump integration speech, how do you compare them both because the head of the teamsters is at the are. and

so you convention, i'm will be at the democrat national convention. well, i think this notion that unless war is good for working, people in the united states is not only false. it's basically rejected by most american workers. if you look at the surveys and the pause, most people want to cease fire and guys, and most people, including many who vote republican, but many of the democrat too, are disgusted that the united states is sending hundreds of billions of dollars to for analysts war against russia, a proxy war and ukraine given to us the 3 cycled through so that it ends up on main street usa rather than it is a landscape of voices or to netanyahu's as well in most as that's true. much of the money never leaves the united states is really just contracts being signed with military industrial, complex contractors. but those are, those are the, those are capital intensive industries. there's not many workers there are actually,

most of most cities in the united states do not have large numbers of industrial enterprises pumping out weapons. it's a, it's a very high tech industry is very capital intensive. it's not labor intensive. and a lot of the sub contracting actually is taking place outside the united states. so the idea that this is a great boon economic benefit sort of a sort of a poisoned benefit that accrues to american workers is largely a fiction. but it's part of the demagoguery of the 2 parties. who is, who always say, as you mentioned, blinking solomon those, oh, it's good for american jobs. um, this is the same thing. reagan push george though. you of bush bush. that's what i don't. clinton bush, that's basically not true. the american people are spending $1.00 trillion dollars . that's real military budget. by the way, it's about 900000000 in the defense department. but heading in the budget is another $600000000000.00 is going for the manufacturer of

a weapon systems and the the maintenance of the us military industrial complex. that's good for wall street. that's good for the banks. that's good for american capital. not really a great benefit to the american working people. yeah, because bible is continuing to repeats these talking points of. he's a friend of the union's how you might have to remind us of what, what he did. enacting legislation against the railway, transport workers to stop a nation wide rail strike. i mean by that is not pro you can you, this is a, a no is not pro union at all. i mean, he's slightly less able then the trump national labor relations board. but he's not pro union, as you mentioned that, that uh anti union legislation wasn't enacted by buying. it was an act that a long time ago. but it was implemented was, it was imposed on the railway workers unions by buying this time because frankly,

railway workers, if they go on strike in 2 weeks, could shut down the entire capitalist economy in the united states. that's how important rail is doing these really important industries that are decisive in that would give working class people strategic leverage over government policy. those strikes are illegal, the same and different other key industries, including public service, government, workers, transportation, etc. so the trunk i mean buying is pretending to be pro labor because he wants hundreds of millions of dollars of labor donations. more and more workers, by the way, are turning the guy said they're saying, let's stop funding either the republicans and the democrats. let's use that money to organize on organized workers the and in 50 years ago, 33 percent of the us workforce with union today. it's 6 percent in the private sector, 6 percent. it's one of the least unionized workforce is in the country, which means workers don't have rights. you can be fired at will. you don't have

benefits. you can be laid off on a moment's notice and your wages can be driven down. so, bite and has done nothing for unionization except like miles some, some sort of talking points for labor, but he's done nothing brand back or i'll stop you that more from the national director of the onset coalition and host of the socialist program. paul, guys, after this break the, the, the,

[000:00:00;00] the, the welcome back to going on the go ahead. i'm still here with the national director of the onto coalition and host of associates program focused. brian becca, brian, at the end about one you were talking about how easy it is for workers give lead to shut down the united states. how precarious is the united states system right now? many people saying that uh, if uh, the bullets had, uh, hips, trump a few millimeters one way or the other, and trumpet being assassinated. and they might have been civil war. how,

how unstable is the republic? or it's just below the surface, very, very, very unstable with tens of millions of very angry people. some about democrats, some about republican, some don't vote at all. that wouldn't be the majority. in fact, but there's a lot of anger, there's a lot of discontent. a lot of alienation, you know, when you think back to the 1963 a, j, f, k, he was assassinated november 22nd 1963. after that, the mass of escalation of us involvement in vietnam took place 5 years later, his brother rock robert kennedy was assassinated after he won the california primary. meaning, he would have been the democratic nominee, and very likely would have beaten richard nixon and he had pledged to end the war in vietnam. he was shot dead. and then richard nixon continued to work for 5 more years. a 1000000 more vietnamese died 503-0000 more americans died of george

wallace who was contesting with nixon for the far right vote in 1972. he was spelled by in assassin's bullet. you are the killing and martin luther king junior and 1968 malcolm x. 1965 medgar evers and a boy a c p and 6. the court assassinations are typical of a period of political instability in the, in that time it was because of the vietnam war, in particular, a war the us couldn't. when we are now in the new period to a declining empire, everybody can see the us empires decline. americans, soft powers and decline of the american economy is really been ravaged by 3 major economic recessions. they give them different names. there was a 92000 a wall street meltdown or the 2020 pandemic. where 60000000 americans lost their jobs. but you know, about 30 or 40000000 people in the united states have been, have lost their jobs to mass way up since 1996. so you have big parts of the

country that are hollowed out. at the same time, young workers in america can't afford to buy a home the american dream. that was always, you can buy a house, you can do better than your parents. nobody believes that now. so we're entered a period of extreme political instability, right? if that bullet had not simply struck donald trump's ear, but had, would have actually killed him. i think we would be in a very, very different state right now in american politics. i think every thing is so boy is, and so combustible for sort of a social explosion. nobody knows exactly what the outcome would be. but we are living on very thin ice here in the united states. you would never think it if you're overseas, you think? oh, america is the richest country in the world, the biggest military in the world. well, people once thought that about doris, russia 2 or other dynastic rules that had gone on for centuries, and suddenly you find out the soft underbelly of those governments are revealed when there's a shock to the system or

a triggering event of the system. and sometimes, and assassination is something like that, cause the gracious threat, arguably right now is not even the threat of climate catastrophe. it is world war 3 because of this war against russia. the need to warn russia through ukraine, trump. it clearly wants to address that. so just on that issue, a tool because they'll be no change on dividing. trump uh says he will end that war and they would open up the peace negotiations. they'd be george or no war. does that mean that um, the western europe will just follow the united states as usual as its vassal vessel states, or will western europe drew away from the united states and want to continue a war or did it just follow washington's orders as well?

i always think, based on the recent history that europe does seem like a, a semi colony of the united states, including some of the major, biggest capitalist economies in the world is quite something. when you think about the, the limited sovereignty that say germany, which all still has us military forces occupying it, which has been true since 1945. this sort of ability or willingness to go along with the united states even when it's against the interests of their own country, their own people, their own economies. i don't know if donald trump will actually follow through on his vile to in the us involvement in the war in, in the ukraine against russia. i don't know about that. you know, a trump empower, has more sanctions on russia. certainly then a bomb a did. he was tougher, in spite of all of the allegations by the democrats, that he was a puppet of the kremlin, actually trumps warner policy was quite, quite terrible against russia. so, you know,

trump was saying anything to get elected, we don't really know right now, trump only wants to win once he has achieved his victory, which i think will happen then the real trump foreign policy will be revealed. well he and the more i'm, it's hard to say. i don't think it's a matter of principle for trump. and again, i think that trump will do whatever the dominant wing or dominant force within the ruling class in america. and there is a ruling class, even though americans are told we're only just a big middle class society, or maybe there's a few rich people and lots of poor people. you know, we have a ruling class, it's a very experience. they some people on the right call at the deep state i just called at the state because since 1945, when the us became the dominant empire in the world, replacing the british empire. the state has really directed us foreign policy and politicians come and go. but the state of orientation is fundamentally unchanged.

uh, it doesn't really change very much at all. okay, well, obviously for you and your fellow americans, the future doesn't look so bright. but if you are a player, you don't like him, and it does have repercussions for vassal states in the us the empire. do you think we were seeing that when we saw victories from the left shouldered miller show in front and we're seeing some victories, a rubber aging in different vessel states as the instability increases in washington, dc. and in wall street, i mean, one way to hope i mean, the multi polarity that we're now witnessing, unlike the unipolar power that came into existence after the collapse of the soviet union and the socialist camp and 1991. the next sort of 25 year period where the us rule the roost. and basically russia and china, at least in their core decisions at the one where essentially

a p is in the united states hoping to sort of divert the word drive of the united states somewhere else, rather than against them. that period has ended the russian invasion of ukraine, signaled the end of that period. we now live in a period of multi polarity, many different centers of power, but it's the beginning of a new period. where will europe stand? i mean, europe right now, it seems to be completely co here around it's vassal status with the united states functioning as a us to pine junior partner. and i think the russian invasion of ukraine, which i think the by the administration deliberately provoked and wanted to have happen, was partly done to secure and fast in europe to the united states. and that at least in the 1st year or so did happen. where will europe go? i don't know. the french election is extremely important. everybody expected the far right to when they did not when the popular front uh grooves by the left. sort

of more far less than mace a moderate left the united wisely. by the way, both narrow was defeated in brazil. modi didn't do as well as he expected in india . the election in columbia where for the 1st time and a long time, there's a progressive government in columbia. there are signs of yearning for progressive social change that are manifesting themselves even in the context of a sort of a right wing shift in american politics. i would say both buying and trump of shipped and things to the right. of course i, of course, no murder thing. so focused is the, by the ministration on trying to destroyed the russian federation before china. who knows what else? uh, they've taken their eye off the ball from latin america from this a how in africa and areas is that these days or do you think a trump presidency? we back on board? i mean, he's not gonna make the same mistake as a pointing a john bolton type figure who is being on this show as national security advisor presumably. but we'll,

that'd be great at dangers now. you mentioned columbia and not exactly a pink time latin america, but this certainly has been in progress in africa, west africa, of trump good signal, great dangers for liberation, movements in the developing world. i think she could because one trump is very reckless. he's not prudent. he feels is that he has a messy on a personality and he's willing to do anything he thought per share. he could destroy them and dural government and venezuela, they pronounced wind white though is the new president. who do i use that? i should just read your of that right and say, he subsequently said in from john bolton's ma'am, was we understand that actually he favored negotiation with my daughter and venezuela. obviously venezuela heading to the polls in a few weeks time, but it was bolton who was a you know, public hearing trump. i don't believe that both. we both is

a self serving you know, fire right, militarist, you know, whatever. and he's very, he's falling out with trump, trump was all about bringing my euro. he wanted that he wanted that feather in his cap. and he also saw that he could overturn the around nuclear arms deal, which he did. he also thought he could reverse obama's normalization opening to cuba, which he did and bite and continued both of those policies, both in iran and cuba. so i don't believe bolton on that. i think trump, trump is all about bringing down with euro. and i think that what, what we can expect from trump is that if trump feels that he can achieve anything, anywhere, a like bringing down an independent government, i think he'll go for it. i think he, he's very likely to pursue a reckless policy. at the same time, you could see what he did with korea. i mean, when he went to singapore into a noise and met with kim jung own and issued the single port summit, for instance,

in june 2018 trump for his own reasons. he wanted to get a nobel peace prize the way obama. well, exactly. you are, you might want to gain and want to taunt with all these different countries in his final exams that have been like in the case of the 3, a bold and it was the obstacle and he was the one who sabotaged the 2nd summit in hanoi both and really did play that one, but uh, but trump will feel like a greater sort of a freedom to do what he wants to do. so it's very unpredictable because he is an unpredictable figure. at the same time, my point being that the machin ations are the machine less part of the machine of the state of the imperial state. it's a very deeply developed and well practice have a trump knows it because it's the 2nd time around now for elizabeth, he knows how that worked against him as he sees it last time around. i mean, how, i mean you're saying like many other people's that it's very difficult to predict, which is quite a thing to say about

a president who's being present before. how should they should i know, i cooperation, organization and the brakes the institutions cope then given he's unpredictable because they need to predict and full cause right now given bite and clearly demented and unable to win a another to yeah, i think i think in terms of the shanghai cooperation organization and all things related to china that the trunk policy is going to be extreme against china. i think a trample focus more like with a laser focused against china. and it gets the associated organizations that are considered to be organizations with china as an anchor light brakes like these a shanghai cooperation organization. that's where trump and his team are going. they feel that a truck, the china must be stopped and how it would be stop. they hoped of ultimately due to

china. what happened to the ussr, the dismemberment of a very large government, a. a by a communist party to bed on con, jin chang, uh the, the areas in china that are not considered part of the main stream of china. i will be that the struggle to separate them will be accentuated. i think that the militarization and the deployment of us naval and air force assets against china, which a binding is done already, but we'll go with great intensity under trump. so i think the will the graber word danger now will be in the pacific. i think the pentagon is preparing for work. the contrary, old pentagon report in 2018 when trump was president, was that was the one that said were changing u. s. military doctrine. the war on terror is no longer the priority. major power conflict is now the priority and that has been sustained, so i think trump is coming back there in terms of this foreign policy focus. brian baccha,

thank you. thank you. that's it for the show. i continued condolences meanwhile to those bereaved by u. k. u. s. u, i'm genocide when we back on monday to ask veteran is really negotiate a go shouldn't baskin with back channels to him, us whether the days of israel and the numbers until then keep in touch my role as social media, if it's not sensitive, we'll country that had to a channel going on the guaranteed po number, they'll come to watch. new and old episodes are going undergrad. see monday, the deep season. the deep sort of the west on the west, on those there is the septic not to be got to be the only delegates of good and just

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