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however, in the west, some see you as a criminal preventing crucial assistance to people in need. you are the 1st woman sanctions by the us treasury department. and now the you has also impose sanctions on your organization to get over to other entities, stating that they are quote, responsible for series and systematic human rights abuses against palestinians. what would you say to that? any time, as i said the, by the way, some of the show start by addressing what you said about us solve non blocking aid from reaching garza. and it's really important for me to, to respond to that. essentially the 8th goes into gaza, falls into the hands of from us. it's strengthened some us role in the strip. and this is not good for the goals and civilians either. so this means that this aid is not humanitarian aid. it is a that strengthens the terrorist strength and some us and therefore it is not good for us all for the civilians. we as a south 9,
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do not oppose humanitarian aid asia. we want humanity or in a to enter and reach the civil williams. only the civilians of casa, not the terrorist. and it's really important for me to address sanctions, because essentially, the sections mean that we are not allowed to protest in the state of israel, son, that's what it means. it means that is we all, we cannot protest anymore, simon is really citizen. i haven't done anything wrong according to the law. and still, as a citizen, i cannot hold a legitimate democratic protest in my own country. this is a very, very severe infringement that shouldn't occur quite and is the president of the united states. he can legislate things and impose them on his citizens. but i am subject to the laws and rules and rights of the state of israel, a free democracy. would you send repeatedly and you just now said that again, but the aide sends to gaza, goes directly to her. mazda is, is your opinion, this is why you oppose it. at no one will on your desk. partially, yes,
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how mouse ruled. they probably stayed in clay for 15 years before the war started. it controls many things on the ground. it's clear, but what is also clear and what has been confirmed by numerous international organizations, is that the life of ordinary gaskins, surviving famine and lack of water and medications deeply depends on this age as well. dozens of guys on children have died from malnutrition. doesn't mothers are unable to breast feed their, they kids and they see them dying. humanitarian situation is catastrophic. the age that self 9 is preventing from reaching garza, is that a that these mothers and these children need as a mother of 8? what would you say to that? at least to kind of the we need to look at the facts. today,
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there is twice the amount of goods passing through gods and there was in comparison to before the war, twice the amount. it's an amazing figure. you can't put the difficulties of the population inside gaza on the back of the top 9, because we only delayed the goods from entering. our action was a protest to urge the state of israel or neutral international body to take control of the aid take responsibility. so that the aid reaches the civilians. this means that we under top 9, did not prevent the aid from reaching the population. the aide is passing in high quantities into gaza. so what you were saying about mountain nutrition and hunger, it's actually falls on the ground. the footage coming out of cause that shows beyond any doubt the situation in gaza, the markets and goes up phone with goods, the abundance of merchandise and gaza to the point that food is thrown away as this means that there is no hunger in gaza. and this, there is hunger, it cannot be blamed on israel or on the action, the new top 9. so as if you see,
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is really army monitoring and controlling the delivery of humanitarian aid to those in need to mothers and children. then you will not oppose that. is that what you say? media? i feel what seems exactly. we want the a to reach the civilian population. because what is happening today? look, i live here in the 2 box very close to garza. i've been living here for 16 years, an all these years. how moss has been firing rockets? it's me and my children come off fires at us not only during more time. i mean, this is something that people around the world don't understand. the reality of rockets is a daily routine for me. my children suffer from p gsp. my children don't go to the bathroom alone. they don't close the door when they're in the shower because they're always afraid. if there's a rocket now, and there's an alarm, i need to run, i need someone to look after me. they grow up, always afraid. again,
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not just in war time, even in gauze, or they don't experience this because they experience the store in war. we've been suffering from rockets all the time as a man is really army has been a company, humanitarian in convoys into gaza and they have been several incidents when they was shooting and there was actions and casualties. because of that, do you think the army is capable of fulfilling the submission of protecting human hearing aid and making sure it goes to right hands? i don't know what same say we need to have control of a that gets bozza from top nines perspective. this can be done either by the ideas or by neutral international organizations. it's important for us to say this is that us maybe even a combined solutions need that we're not the government and we will tell them what's the best solution. we trust our government and ask it to come up with the
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best solution they see fit and put blaming the idea for a single incident. that was truly a one time event and 9 months of war. for one case of mistakenly shooting, an innocent person is wrong. this will push into that in the end, this happened even between ideas. troops within the id s, there were so many casualties, including hostages, were killed because it's a war. and didn't board people we don't want to be kills, get killed. this incident was very, very unfortunate. but again, such incidents happen. and they've happened to soldiers to my husband's friend who's killed this way by one unit mistakenly firing on another idea. you mentioned that the civilians also get killed this way by mistake, because it's the sad reality of war to me. dev could then you should be id, ask us. it's best to fight this war with as few casualties as possible and does more than any army in the world to achieve that, we see this because small sense children to locate where the idea of the troops are
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and to harm our soldiers. in the idea of never shoots it, the children flew with meeting these really armies considered to be one of the best in the world. shouldn't that mean that the idea is capable of defeating him as without restricting too many tear and supplies come us cuz that's it. and be a taylor phillips bi claim, a little control and a moss. their greatest strength is that they don't care about their own population . that's why they hide within the civilian population. and so this is what you made them, come in with them. they hide themselves, their weapons, their missiles, right, underwear, children study. that's the strength of the mosque. and to defeat them, we have to do everything we can, we need to target them. awesome. and the idea does this in a way that protects the civilian population to the highest degree possible. and it's a lot of obvious to how much does restricted humanitarian aid help. the idea in
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achieving its military go to fixing. hum us hiring genies masula as our soldiers, who went to gaza, saw her mazda is tara tunnels, filled with humanitarian aid. their warehouses stocked with chocolate cans and all the goods that come with the aid, the quarterly. they see this with their own eyes that come off as terrorist sites. so we need to look at the fact see that we need to consider what is happening on the ground and not the narrative. the world wants to tell itself. and this a bit, look at the steps on the ground there with you also said that you don't believe that children in guys are dying from malnutrition. although it was confirmed by international organizations. he also said that you don't believe that there is lack of food and there is risk of famine of feminist product, especially in the north. although again, this is what the wine is alarming about. what do you think is happening on the ground? what, what is the picture that you have of what is going on in gaza right now,
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and what are your sources specification about anyway, that's when i key. i see the full picture here because my husband was in gaza for a month and a half. and my friends are fighting there too, and we see the reality as it is. and we also see it on telegrams. there's difficult reality and goes to the websites ultimately. when a soldier sees thursday and hungry people, the ideas are the 1st to give some water in a scene we see reality as it is. it is true that moss and other terrorist organizations published statistics. but i don't think that those numbers should be trusted. because in the end, they're numbers that want to tell a certain story about the reality and goss on to advise the reality in gaza is an unpleasant one. we want the war to end in israel to we want the war to add let's get back to sanctions. as freezing is, i'm on the sanctions. how will it affect the work of your organization based
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semester? it's for the sandfield and i know to for the sanctions began, we had stopped taking action on the ground to solve 9 is not a legal entity. so the sanctions didn't directly affect us, but we had money collected through donations to operate. this money is essentially frozen in a fund and we can't access it to mean all our movements. social media accounts are blocked. quote, you can find to mos propaganda, an incitement videos on social media, calling for violence and the murder of jews. we who have released non violent, non offensive videos and the 1st we were blocked on all platforms. youtube, facebook and tape talking instagram, g mail. we were blocked everywhere, even though we never released any offensive or violent content after had, can you reveal how much money was was frozen for approximately $85000.00 us dollars? there were some they pay report reveals that is rarely groups blocking guys,
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humanitarian convoys have raise over $200000.00 through crowd funding signs from us. that is really donors with contributions being tax deductible. where do you find funding? lots of data. it's in a solve 9 has had support from all segments of this rarely society among us and solve 9 their families of hostages, and believed families as well as citizens from all over the country, including those were evacuated from their homes in the south, in the north same shape, even those who didn't directly participate in the actions fairly solved in their hearts that they were with us. it was clear to them that they supported our call to the government to take the necessary measures to achieve victory and to we can come us. so those are staying at home and couldn't join us, often donated money. they were the ones who said, my heart is with you. please continue doing this because it is our ability to live here safely in our country. there's a mistake. what about the nations from abroad?
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you only mentioned is really donors. but it's in a professional combined use. we launched a fundraising campaign, and this really is as well as jews from around the world join the campaign a to buy them to me cause there was support to our cause. and we received messages from individuals overseas. who did the we cannot exactly locate the origin of each donation, but the funds raised from private donors are frozen in the j. g is funded and were never inaccessible to us to mean. in fact, it has been locked up illegally and we cannot access the money to keep the earlier side of that. the assets of $85000.00 having frozen may i ask you, what is the total amount of money that you have been able to raise in 7 months? said base. i'm a school associate and need a that's the amount. the amount that's locked is all the funding. we had
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a new success team. besides that, we've stopped fundraising because part of the sanctions means i can't even collect donations for my own legal doubt. that comes with this, i want to hire lawyers to help me get through this period to help me resolve this. so that one day i can enter the united states, the senior. i have a husband who's a us citizen, and i have children who are us citizens. i need lawyers for that. how i mean, i can't even collect money now, even from people who walk to help me, i can't receive any money that would help hire these lawyers because according to the presidential act that it says if i'm some kind of criminal, but i'm not allowed to collect donations key, let me pull shot me a source of to me is just to clarify $85000.00 is, is a total amount. mm hm. and it has been frozen, but you have been using money all these months, right? as limits a winnable. so there were organizations who supported us. there was, for example, an organization that allowed us to use its p r services and advertising
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a divorce. but for instance, i and others in the organization are simple volunteers. so if people paid for flags or shirts for things we use during the protests, it was paid from their own pocket because they truly supported us. and other times it was thanks to small donations from individuals is a new for me. but just like i put my own money for my gas, for my car, and for things i use, there was a lot of axes kind this from people. many people agree to walk and help us with payment in return for their efforts in a but some are still waiting for us to be able to pay them for what they did for top 9 o manage inches. mm hm. so as far as i understand, you didn't spend a penny from the money that you raised through crowd funding based on that kind of stuff like this of k a, a, a. we started collecting money when the activities sob 9 began to receive significant immediate attention. but there's something more i really want to say. i
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volunteered all along because i truly saw it in front of my eyes. our hostages, who my so desperately wanted to see for you said it's, we want them off to release our hostages and i was ready to volunteer to do everything, to invest my time and effort for this to happen. we truly believe that has come off, had an incentive to do so. they would come to the table and make a deal with us. a mazda is not willing to make any deal to release our house drugs, but there's one more thing i can a firm. we are ready and willing to do and sacrifice a lot for the sake of our country. however, with what i'm going through now, these sanctions against me, it's something i cannot remain silent without. i want my children, my friends, and myself to be able to express our opinions freely in our country. these sanctions are silencing us and then the legal manner. and you said that many times in your interviews and you repeated now that from the moment i found the top 9,
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these are your words. it was solely to bring hostages home. but as far as i understand you oppose the hostage, still they exchanged still between israel and him. us. so how do you seize really hostages returning home? what is the way the best way? and we want our hostages to come home and they can return with a deal. they can come back with the military operation. however they return, we are happy and grateful for it. we and south 9 want the hostages back home by some of the members of the top 9. they oppose the exchange deal, now casually met them. it's very important to me. i don't just refrain from sharing my private opinion for no reason. i'm representing a movement here that encompasses a wide range of opinions. if i, as a leader of the things that express my personal opinion, it can create an uncomfortable and unplug as a space for the people within the movement. and assume that there are people who oppose a deal, and there are those who want to deal at any cost. we include everyone. everyone is
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a part of the movement. truly. this is a movement of the people of israel and everyone is a member. so officially, the position of the organization of top 9 is that you support any mean that will help bring hostages home, including exchange deal between israel and how much i need position me. now, i simply believe that the starting point, the fact that we're strengthening him off and then expecting him off to come and accept a good deal for us is a mistake and approach for us to reach the best possible deal from us needs to wants that deal do think at this point, there is not enough pressure on him us a diplomatic military. political no doubt in the end is here. i am sitting in front of you and you were interviewing me about sanctions. are there sanctions on come off on how most supporters is there,
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a pressure on them from the united states? all we hear about is how much of bite and is concerned with sending them a seat. equally concerned with applying pressure on him off to release hostages, is he applying the same amount of pressure on them to stop their terrorist activities. but how mazda is considered a service organization by, by the us navigation as a son and crime it from the moment. israel started fighting him off, so us has repeatedly hindered and interfered with our ability to act and defend ourselves. and if it is true that a mazda is a terrorist organization, then, so was on the right. it went to then it's time to present them to the world in that light and saw treating them as this. there anything else? there's something here that needs to change. so at least level my last here in israel, we understand this because we experienced october 7th. we understand this because we saw the atrocities and heard about the baby's bond, and the women raped to death, their bodies, mutilated. but the world,
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the world prefers to close its eyes and not look at the facts. they stick a little. how many people do you have in 129? is it like a fish? oh, i can become a member, the image, a, a see know a how the what we didn't really establish formal membership and solve 9. because it's an open grass roots movement. a people can identify with movements values and participate without registering, and either the same at the, to the court. you can simply take a flag, join the activities, and become part of the group with others, unless we have around 15000 active se. but so i have 9 and joys a much broader support and more than i, i know, seeing that we carried out many actions and receive support from combat and font and gaza. and as just to continue show me dental, we receive support from all parts of the nation without requiring each person to formally register and say, i'm a member of top 9. again, i need some elements of to be referred to your organization as extremist and the
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european castle. now, because of the sanctions, describes of 9 members as violent activist. would you agree on that goal eventually? of course not. and so, but you can, you can simply look at our activities on the ground and see that there was no violence. every time we arrived, we brought something nice to eat for the security forces. we never harmed anyone in the actions of solve 9 chevrolet on the contrary. when there was harm caused by other organizations, we were there to say that it was not acceptable to us. is a peaceful but videos. so in do assessor is attacking humanitarian convoys, searching vehicles on fire. i can drivers damages supplies, but so these are not, so i'm 9, i've got has been made a while and would have had show there was indeed one unique violent incidents that occurred after we were no longer on the ground. but you know, throwing away goods,
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harming drivers. none of the things you mentioned are related to the activities of self 9. and i also think that if we really look at how often such occurrences happened, i know only one incidents to that one incident where there was violence against drivers. and one incident where a trumpet was born. again, not during solve nines blockade has. this happened after we had already announced that we had stopped our activities and asked everyone to go home because it might, it happened several hours later. but truly, all the things you described happened only once. this why i ask you about the number of people that so i've known you nice and you said it's thousands and thousands. so it's really hard to control the behavior of all of them. i think it was in the is very difficult. so we managed to do it. the fact is, all the actions of solve 9 throughout the journey showed that we succeeded. there were many articles, many interviews and furniture all along the way to prove it. so you can see it
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actually happening on the ground. we managed to create a non violent, legitimate action, a beautiful family friendly protest. so even when someone to, to bring the boxes of teenagers and everything. we said no solve 9 is a family friendly protest. it's a protest conducted respectfully. and we said many times that our aim was to strengthen the government. we wanted to strengthen our people, not. we cannot move violent actions only weaken our position. can we say that they went out of control? got what i need to be like, got a let me get a little bit of added weight. maybe i should explain for those who don't, let's hear a minute. typically the convoys passed through different areas of the country a that by which this time the convoys passed through areas near different settlements, essentially coming from central israel. i mean, these were convoys that arrived from various sources, including from fattano, westbank to region, cause only
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a local people who lived there and who had no connection whatsoever to solve 9 before solve these trucks passing nations. them, it happens regardless to solve nines protest. it's not, you can see that even one solve 9 stopped effect to these. those people continued and locked the trucks and did many more things that they carried out several other actions afterwards. so because these convoys passed through this area, the people living there arrived and opposed them in this way. the said they didn't start because of 129 and it wasn't solved 9 action that caught out of control. it was actually the trucks that took a different route that brought in different people to block them. do you have an impression that maybe somehow, without one tonight, without willing it opened the box up and dora? i mean, any movie neither showed any movie nay. i don't mind, i understand the question too, right? i understand what you're essentially asking and the answer is no. a, to me this was essentially done under the radar and without the knowledge of the
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entire nation. assume that house. yes, we brought awareness to this issue and it was important to do so. it was important to raise awareness because it directly affects our lives. when someone in russia reads about these convoys arriving, it doesn't directly impacts them. i live here, and that's involved in the fact that a mazda is still alive, taking and so strong directly affects me a horse, a while it might be true that a south 9 had not existed at that specific incident might not have happened, but a south 9 had not acted from us would be much stronger than it is today. it was when you were sanctioned by the you, as you said, quote, i urge our government to do everything to protect me legally. so this, this can be stopped. what are your relations right now? with these really a for which is a new law that equates the toyota. i don't know all the developments, but i know and expect more precisely that the ministers in the government do
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everything they need to help me. because i'm not just asking them to take care of need organization, i'm asking them to ensure that all citizens of the country can live here with freedom offers the freedom to express themselves. freedom to protest, to voice their opinions out loud. and therefore, this should be something very, very important for my government that no one can apply this kind of pressure on the citizens of this country. let me the nozzle on friday, we expect the ruling by the international court of justice regarding the legality. it was written presence in the west bank and many say that the court might to ask israel to withdraw from israel calls today in some area. what do you think about that and about this possibility? i mean, what's that said, i'm sure that i want my government to have the independent ability to protect me without for an intervention. we don't need someone else to manage us just like the us has freedom to defend itself. just like russia has the freedom to defend itself,
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just like every country in the world has the freedom to defend itself. israel also needs that freedom, which this type of control should be the prerogative and decision of these really government. we're not talking about the countries we're talking about international court because they know me an international law. if someone starts a war against you, you can conquer territory. you can fight them a south 9 was established after october 7th, and it involved what's happening in the gaza strip. and in this war, what's happening in to day in samaria. south 9 doesn't need to express an opinion on that. and as i said, we give our government the support, it needs to do whatever is necessary to ensure that we are safe here. i mean, kind of thank you very much for your time for your thoughts, for your ideas. we really appreciate. thank you.
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