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a new, i'm terrible way of war. that is here to stay for i'd guys the of odd sees from i to the to the then the people's republic. or i go that route, so this news always good to have a company with us here on all season i. so let me back in about 20 minutes or so this hopefully out we'll see you then the hello and welcome to cross top boulevard and john peter a little here we discussed some real news. we're trying to really be able to bring the conflict in ukraine to it in given the forces arrayed against him from says he

would end the conflict before being inaugurated. what would his deal look like? to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, george samuel, we in budapest, he is a pod cast forensic apple, which can be found on youtube and locals. and in merrill tests we have marble. jay, he is and award winning journalist and commentator for a gentleman cross up rules and the fact that news can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated quite, let's kick it off with georgia included as well. it's becoming real, george. i mean, you know, we've heard the trouble say throughout the campaigns that he would end the conflict and ukraine in 24 hours. he's even given a coffee out recently before he was or not. i'll get rated if he's victorious and november. and in looking at the convention, there's a, there has been a lot of, there hasn't been a lot of commentary about few wasn't there. and a lot of the old neal cons, very well known individuals lives, chaney and bill crystal ball, ryan, and many, many others. like pens,

they weren't there. jamie vance was there. mike pompeo was there as well. i think you get my drift here. you know, trump is his election prospects are looking good. um and so we have to think hard about the reality and then he may inherit this for the binding started as well. that's exactly right. and um, trump has been quite skillful in maintaining an ambiguity as do well in the 1st. that is what exactly america 1st really means, but in the 2nd place, how you will resolve this problem back in ukraine because it goes and yes, there are other people like a j d bands. they take it to me in the very 1st we focus on america's problems. we don't waste our resources on the peripheral issues such as your crime, but they're all is well there and such as we get

a powerful congressional chem and like michael, my cool and their idea of america for us is what we go in and we own like bite me give you credit in the tools to finish the job. so that is that yeah, yeah the you know what the trunk will do is very different from the little button book. he will actually help ukraine when this will. well, that's completely the opposite of what trump has been saying that sir trump has been gliding by without having to exactly spell it out. i mean, they've been various papers written by people associated with the american 1st policy institute, like getting frederick flights and uh keith kellogg. um, but the trump is not working those to any of those plans. so yes, he says he's going to end this in 24 hours, but it's never any given us, some idea of how exactly that will be accomplished or what exactly that in, you know, final kind of, uh,

anything of the will will look like. yeah. line you with uh, i think it was on friday that uh drum had a conversation with uh the, now it legitimate president of the grange, zelinski and the readout from both sides was kind of boiler plate them. it was an excellent, perfect tell about all of his with his drug, like sikes, to say that they made it sound like there was a lot of agreement, but nothing, nothing, nothing was specified, no details. whereas best, like, for example, endorsing the, the china and proposal or a of an african proposal or reacting to a boot. and you said repeatedly about how negotiations, cuz i know these details were given except really weren't agreement. that's, that's not encouraging. well, they were in agreement to the idea of trump waiving his magic wand, encouraging a solution for everyone, including the landscape, but nothing, nothing for us as much detail as because i don't think some part of the details at this point. you know, random,

i think it's good because if you're influenced cuz position, probably a very wary of trump. you know, it's a, it's, it's a little bit like shaking hands with the devil. you know, one minute from can be of for the next minute. you can be your biggest enemy if you just don't react the way you was needed to direct all the time and respect his particular requirements when it, when it comes to media or whatever. so i think i'm probably with as an excuse trying very carefully amazing. simply had a conversation, because or, you know, everybody is now just assuming that we're gonna have trump in the white house. and he's now going to have to live up to this, this declaration you made a long time ago. these gonna fix your credit and in 24 hours and nobody actually really believes that, you know, the russians have been taking very suitable restore approach to it that i think the official statement was let us know. they were gonna stick, you know, and trump made the statement before about fixing them, at least when he was president. and in fact, you know, it's sort of them hacks like me who actually look at them at least and say,

well actually, if you have not done what you did with this well, and i'm given israel the, the impetus and the status that you didn't go and show in the drum counter. it was in regards to a brown, the codes and shifting the capitals and ignores you. listen to how in north dakota all these things, you know, perhaps the october 7th events wouldn't happened because link the to, you know, think when you go back to and you're going to pick a picture. i think october, the 7th was a huge circuit breaker sitting for, for the palestinians. i'm part of that was that they go sold down the river with the obama coach by everybody, including the harps, you know, so i think to, he's in a pickle and i will in myself to his proposal, months ago or wherever it was. years ago that he was so ukraine wouldn't die because he would just turn up and say, right, you know, i'm getting more might the end of the us funding and not more or less would be the

silver bullet. but it's actually a bit more complicated than that. and i think i think what we're seeing reality is that he will pull off a seesaw in his 1st week and office. but taking it further from that, it's going to be very, very difficult. because there are a whole bag of complications the which one that initially when he made those statements, one of which this has been mentioned by georgias daddy bones who doesn't give a tooth hurts about ukraine. i'm but is 6 thing up the rest right now to will say, well, i'm in china. and so that complicates things you feel as a, was russia signing any sort of a piece deal in ukraine. you know, there's lots and lots of news now, and that's always a good copy of that we mentioned on this program and you can have as many ideas and proposals as you want, but there for us, it isn't at the table even then it just say, hey, let's just do 2 of the georgine unit i pointed out in the past. and maybe it's

a um, a material detail. but when trump has said, you know, he wants this resolved before he is. and now get ready to this kind of interesting to me and maybe it's a reach, but i've always felt and i've always felt that there was a mistake on the part of his movement. is this the call this by whose wards in the distance and south of from it. and he doesn't want this war on his watch. he has a lot of other things he wants to do. it maybe that's just read a reach and reading into something that isn't their thoughts. well, i think that's right. i mean it was famously. i think daniel patrick moynihan told richard nixon just as he was taking office in january 1969 the unless you bring this lauren via to it in, in no time. and so this will be known as nixon's war. but until then, it has been johnson hall and i was going to be nixon's well, and that's in fact what happened. the nixon wasn't able to bring this war to in the

media conclusion. alex was, he then got blamed for the war. and i think trump consciously or unconsciously, it is thinking along those lines that are in no time a tool. and the democrats are very, very good at the political marketing will say, hey, this is drums war. trump has made a hash of this trunk problem is that he would bring this to an end. he hasn't brought it to an end is actually even worse than he was. it's trunk floor. so he, he wants to get this office planes, but it's very easy to send them down now. um the, the issue of, well, you know what? and then their suggestions of this from being the boss and their suggestions of this from this fred flights. and that keeps cat local road was paid before the merge of thought. and so, as far as it is, is that, well, what they're going to do is go to the lens and say, well, unless you show up for a peace conference with russia, we're going to cover of your assistance. and then they go to the russians and say, well, unless you show up to the strong presence and clearly indicate that you want to,

uh, and this will, we're going to double our assistance to ukraine. so i think that that being very queued um, but then the, even if this happens, even if the, you know, and that's a possibility of, of, i get this conference going and that's pro. and so that's getting realizes that the days of each piece going process without russia are over. i think you've come, willing says that if we have a conference and roster has to attend. but even if that happens, then where do we go from here? yeah, you may want to put a ceasefire in place, but what would be the points of that? the one selling point that i think trump has the, which is all involved, fish from buying that he doesn't care about nato. and so that whole issue of, oh, where you know the door to nato for you. great. you know, every country has a right to decide the joining a control doesn't care about that. so that at least could be both on was yours all the get hold of more. so george of the market right now,

nato is going to do whatever the us wants at the end of the day at the end of the day. that's what it's going to be, they can, they can have all of their p, r and they're complaining and trunk proofing and all that. but once the word is out from washington, nato will follow. but that doesn't make things simple. go ahead mark. now, i mean, we'll next, we won't be around to, i mean, since you're pretty small, people certainly much smaller people to me, photos of them. so i'm out running this up. it's the same. that is main service on a self destruction cost. i think um, i don't think some would have any problem me going don't history being the capitalist who bought that about you know, he, the product from school is that whichever way he lose, he's going to come from a full own collision with you or is there is so many signals now the americans are heading to the trade will in europe. trump on funds now want to, um, hike up tires with china. effects on a whole lot of goods right across the will. not only would china,

but with the europeans as well. and it's, it's done that wiggle room that doesn't have the leverage. so you said that, you know, america basically is nathan nathan was america. if he has a massive time from and sense to present scalar, you're not only having nimble aid from america. you have a mental aid from nato and you from the big class individually in europe. that could be a huge game changer that could, that could be, you know, pretty amazing that could stop every say and get people to focus. mine's got in those articles that i think you're referring to, but the meetings on the phone go sorry. between to lensky and trump. there were a couple of tiny details and gentlest for the 10th. one of them was the full key regions, you know, which are and, and, and the disputes and was a, so then you would give them up. it's written the message, this is out of the question. those lensky in no way could get those readings up, which then throws the spotlight back on so lensky and how he come over night in my view, go from being a friend to so with, from,

and the reaction to that was going to be, well, you are the problem now, so you have to go, you know, and, and the problem is lucy's golf course is that it was due to me see, you know, you mentioned earlier, there is not the person anymore here. how much lower than that go on for when you have these international piece conferences and where russia, what are the video bridge showing our viewers very clearly health problem. ag drums problem is i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on from and you can stay with our to the hi. i'm rick sanchez. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. you do not watch my new show. seriously, why watch something that's so different. several opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do you have the state department c, i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. i changed and whatever you do,

don't want marshall state main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, you probably don't wanna watch it because it might just change the way you the welcome after cross i pulled orange. i am beautiful though dear, were discussing some real news. okay, george, i need to go back to you. so come course in, in peace, don't worry too crazy. you might think though, we should remember that. okay. more of it, you know, it looks at it very with any varies with a very sober mind, but buying is entire ukraine policy has not been so, but it's been extremely reckless and people are attached to this. i mean, it's uh, pax americana. it is maintaining, had gemini, the, made the effort to inflict a strategic defeat on russia is just as real now as it was for years in charge. so

that's exactly right. and i think that's where the problems are going to arise. but come, because the republican party, along with the democrats, um, supports this war and i mean by their public and but being on big, large proportion of it. let me so like when, when that's 61000000000 dollar package where ukraine uh was passed um a few weeks ago. um basically, you know, the, the senate republicans softly congressional republican supported it. so that's really a trumps problem. that if he does go down this path, if he decides to bite the bullet, and this thing that goes along and says, well, this, this, what were you branded makes no sense. i think it makes no sense for us to wage war against russia. we need russia as an ally against china, which i think probably is what he really thinks, even though you're those of being consistently think that says way and 16. so therefore, let's you know, this has nothing to do with our america with our interest. let's just bring it to

an end. he is going to come into conflict immediately with him to the congressional republicans. and they are very unhappy about that because the input, the other was, well now say we need to do you agree and everything is needs to get the job done to the feed brush up. so ultimately he's going to have to build a good to confront this problem that his own party is deeply divided on this issue . and a for, let's do it with us. remember who's of his own speaker? you know, um michael, mike, but he doesn't, you know, mike johnson, he's the one to push that 61000000000 dollar package for ukraine. so he's going to keep him happy. is it so it's going to be very difficult for him. and you mentioned by the beach. well, yeah, that's a real possibility. i mean the lead people like lindsey graham and, and michael mccaul and all the rest of them. they're not just going to sit still and and watch. uh you ukraine, the space,

the oh we the craze being sold down the river when we're getting boot and everything we've. george, we see the russian gate rearing its ugly headache and they'll rush, it gave him a get. okay, this is already up in the mix, right. now martin, you know, it's interesting when we, when mike pompei o we actually spoke at the, at the convention trying to, um, uh, uh, take on or uh, uh, appropriate to himself what america 1st is, which is definitely the complete, diametrically opposed to what someone like from and, but from what we know of a vans but there are other people around johnny rad flip robert o'brien, rick right now. um i called so you can going along with um the uh, trunk vans vision here. i mean, we can say that it is going to be congressional resistance, but even within his administration, if he's thinking about mike pay or mark, oh rubio. oh i, i don't know. i would think that the, the, the,

the impeachment process would be set up in january. he's got some problems. he definitely has some problems which he, he couldn't possibly soto and visions around when he made this a re is over simplistic statements, but you credit your credit isn't going to be resolved in a day or a week or, or, or, i think and months. i think it's going to be a long standing issue, a sorta inside of trump and his new administration. what was interesting for me about the conference is the 3 brits who turned up. i'm not sure if i just trust them both johnson but what really shocked me. i really didn't open that. i'm a jewel. just let me father feel i couldn't not believe pizza. how much time trump gave to burst on some of the restaurants remote this with the british presses were on the articles in the independent saying, basically the lowest, johnson is more or less convinced from that. so he needs to can continue to campaign with ukraine against russia. i'm the front of the even gets press coverage,

but the, the lowest johnson got the time to talk to him. it gives you an indication, but he's not quite so gun. how and quite so binary. now on you kind, he was the full, he's prepared to work with the other people around the world to a very close to ukraine is i thought i still to the golf to be i was landscape. i really have to pick up. people just have one big, that's really how can you hide just thing boy, just, just to go around the well, just basically, you know, promote seeing your cravings. let's get these. not the old one. he's not going there, but where is that still going to and you know, i think it could go either way, but it's we, we might be surprised. we might be surprised, but actually jump, reaching out more to who's a lives you know, onto how to find a diplomatic solution which gives him still the price. i'm the and the, the, the international prestige they need to wear this thing about the whole thing of

your credit for me is you have this relationship between a trump and kitchen. and what has to ask the obvious question? what's it based on? is it based on from one thing to do huge business in the countries the pitching of that as a real control over we state whatever or is it just an operation, or is it the wrong by do the russians secret service? they've got all sorts of things on from the he's worried about age. it's really amusing how this continues, but i just don't see how it so i think, you know, george, i think it's kind of more common sense. i mean, why should the united states and must should be enemies? why over the well, yeah, of them short. so that's exactly right. and i think that instinctively trump understood that when lee colewell came to an end and the book but the well what, what, what's, what's this of the football? i don't think that there's any real um relationship between from and russia. and i

think it was the late, steven co and your supply. the trend is actually one of the few kind of leading business men in the united states or hasn't made a lot of money in roster a another. you know, he's talked about the various projects building of trump. uh, but it's never really uh, pull that off. i think that's what he does. see russia as a potential ally against china. he believes in vans, believes that china is a moving thread. and, and that's, and they basically have to have to mobilize really alliance the extensive, you know, if it's still worth having, you have to mobilize it against the china. i think he would like to downgrade the europeans in those as well. look at we, we will contain russia, but you do that that's, that's your task. and other idea of europeans that you know that, that's what you need to focus on. we will focus on china is that what we, we will reorient those. so those 2 contain china in asia. i think that's what

he would like. the ukraine is just as a mess it here with you. and you know, you can either way, it has to be resolved, but um, you know, the but it was like, so you know, we just victo or bomb and so far is johnson. so we'll go around goes to the trunk because yeah, yeah, yeah. trump told me he's going to bring this to an end, not full of confidence that even though he knows as though he's going to bring it to an end. um and then the bar is done so says yeah, i'm absolutely confident give a drunk those up to do with you craig. so what does that feel? isn't joseph like from just sent that tells you his name. so lock your does what they want to hit, or if i'm able to was going to come to an entity and just to bring it to an end, hidden in by, by the time use a in order to write the bar as johnson's as yeah prompt to go guy trump season. he's with us on the need. so he's going to do your draw is the made disappoint to everyone. and i think that somebody, if you don't mind me bring, you know,

so we've talked about what barnes johns and things and j. b. vance. and maybe what trump saying they came out and thought about watching the russians care about any of this conversation. yeah, that's a very good point. the other thing that the, if you look at the, i see all of the patient and you go back long enough when there was a possibility of russia in the european union, and america coming close together and even russia becoming the nature. let's think he's a deal. and so his rule ideology is that russia should be both aware. they should be integrated more, you know, so from a business point of view, from a group, this group point of view from a piece point of view, i don't, i don't believe put in there's a little longer. i know there was so many people in the 3rd and a small to me on social media for that, but i just don't buy it. i never saw a kitchen without you being martin. i mean, i, i, you know, there's, there's the anesthesia is to all of this. i mean, um, um, if you look at it at a distance, you know, i'm good was very kind of a much more liberal when he started out then in this chain. why? because the west is a club in russia is not invited. certainly thing. i mean,

what do you do if you're not invited? okay, you have to go your own way. yeah. but i think does include most of the time i go today, is there a way long? got a loan. yeah. well yeah, i mean your, we even had the, the, the, the foreign minister loved it off is that you can actually me something i said to you when the come with this in part of the conflict, then you agree and started. this is going to be a breach covering in generation generations. george? yes, i think that that's right. i do think, oh, the, the russians would like the, the to written to some kind of, uh, no mallet the normal races, but we'll trade. right. yeah, exactly. but it's not, it isn't going to happen any time, any time really in the foreseeable future. and i think that's because one of your has decided to do your business either to mobilize itself, mobilize that entire, go to europe in continents against russia,

is done it without any real concern for its own interest. but the, this way there's mobilize a style, going to be very, very difficult for all of this happen. i'll throw, you know, sending all of this military assistance in order to kill russians. it's going to be very difficult. oh, okay, what do you really mean it? let's, let's go back to the good old days of it. what good old days will be scale. elmwood colon, the bar is the old, you know, on give them the bill in the young boots and just isn't going to happen. and, and i think of that, so let me get them. i think you some ideas of your hopes along the lessons that well, maybe we can do that, but that's just not all. marvin finish it up. well, the last 30 seconds. go ahead. i think the take away now. so for me, for the last few days, looking at all these huge events is the holistic news from brussels that live on the land is now going to have another 5 years in part. what does that tell you

about health and stuff? that's a european solution to a european problem. good luck. and she's already re buying your fist on the table and talking about, you know, getting morgan, who were china and empowering more, but money off to good money into the same black hole. you know, it, it, so many people of said to me on social media, this is fantastic news because it means in a long time it's going to be some sort of resolution in the countries and much else more, you know, other, you know, what's, what's stuck with it unfortunately, but crops. all right, you're, you're a bit stuck and we'll see if the republican party is stuck on. we heard a lot of good things, but a lot of bad people still hanging around when i think my guess in budapest, in mary america, ash and i would course, i want to think i'd be worse for watching you. c r t c. next time we member across stuff was the,

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