and he had various russian universities and russian officials and young people who were interested in russian culture are always welcome. before we wrap up this ours program, it's freezing and practically a no man's land, but one indonesian scientists studying paleo geography. as in petersburg state university, garrett often travel more than 30000 kilometers to get all the way to antarctica and back. and so right now he shared with us the details of his journey to the bottom of the war. i am a participant in the 69th russian antarctic expedition. i would like to say that i am now leaving for my journey to antarctica. most people never even dream of reaching the entire tax. but for getty, with alma, an invitation, scientists studying polio geography at st. petersburg state university, just journey to the south school is one he will never forget. so the philosophy of the world is all already insight on thought the audi historic color,

but it was well civilization of what nature. alrighty. and on saturday. so went on something that has the problem there we'll, we'll get the problem. most of jerry obama made his name as the youngest innovation scientist who reach me and tar take the journey was made possible by joining the 69th russian antarctic expedition. the team left from st. petersburg in march and exploring to reach in one or 4 months expedition. for jerry, as a scientist, the trip turned to be a lucky ticket. he had already set foot on the arctic. so this journey was another check on his bucket list. his expedition was full of surprises. when i was in the station of progress, everything is easy. uh, going very easy and what realization is really easy. what is the most is really easy class because i'm a human and also deal to just an average region is really open range and like soon

so we can, i know it's very of us. what do i, what we did it once i think we've gotten to what uh, sensitive program we did is really working very well and, and then the last stage and uh, challenging, also like no was epsco station. you have to go by have a couple of almost like 14 minutes. 14 minutes is really one of the longest direct from medical center. i had to go through fairly, sending a scientific, a pull of scientists to answer. and think of jerry's presence in the group is a new page in the media and rushes by letter of alicia. the mission is the 1st research trip from indonesia and awesome countries using a russian government facile a journey. jakarta has got behind you through the government, the government on behalf of the government. we support jd expedition. we see that it is still ratifying the needs of the students so, so just to collaborate with russia, why don't have the indonesian embassy helped facilitate communication in between.

we also joined research lab and there is an open cooperation with russia. obviously consult research center on campus in indonesia. during the expedition gary dug deeper into the shape of the earth's surface and the process is that formed at the information will later be used in the new of russia. at last of antarctica. it's a unique opportunity gear. he gives usually proud off, but for a man who grew up in a tropical country, the real shock, what's the weather is really challenging because who you are and that the, where is the situation to play with that then perhaps it's really is really cool. maybe the cold as a can, i can imagine. so he's really challenging for everyone who wants to be the visa out of the region. and the most important things that is really good experience because you can handle in the extreme climate. and we how you weren't, we just presume is usually an extreme claim, which is

a really good one. now gary is back in st. petersburg to continue his education. and even if he doesn't want to admit it, getty has become an inspiration for many young innovations in following their dreams. they're big and i think the whole reporting from jakarta for r t. yeah. that so it continues online right now it's uh, 2 adult calm for the mean time, wherever is joe biden. everyone's trying to find and we will tell you what we know when we were to the top of the, the, [000:00:00;00] the, from july 26th until august,

the 11th 10500 acetates from all over the globe will gather to compete in the summer olympics. and paris france, however, present crones snap decision to dissolve. parliament has not only raised the risk of political unrest, but also security concerns for those involved with the games. this could not come at a worst time as the international olympic committee is being called hypocritical, and their banding of russian and bella roost athletes due to the ongoing conflict and ukraine, while ignoring the conflict in the middle east. at this point. well, an event which is supposed to unite the world in the name of sportsmanship and showcase the best of a country leave a tarnished and disappointing reflection upon france. i'm sky now hughes and this is perspective. the

france is known for many lovely things. but when it comes to protest, the french set the bar for creat trinity in expressing frustrations. and currently, there are many frustrated french people, frustration at the national government chaos is paired with prisons, anger, and all of their tax dollars being spent on the games. and not only helping the needy or the poor areas within the city to bid this frustration, prisons have planned a massive flash mom that would fill the river scene with a human waist. at the exact moment, present macro and french mayor and hidalgo are supposed to swim in the river in honor of the game on the plan to soil. their leaders has gained so much momentum on social media. that elliptic officials are worried, the olympic events which will be held in the river will have to be delayed, as there is no plan be for those events. this is just the tip of the iceberg or frustrations and controversy surrounding this year's games. so i thought i would

bring in a panel of experts to give a preview of what to expect, both on and off the field. we have our very own sports analyst. steve per stock has been holden who works as a sports caster and how lisky is a professor and we're just uni toronto and author of inside the olympic industry, power politics and activism. thank you so much for joining me. thank you, ben. i want to start with you on this. do you feel like the lympics that the olympics are still just as relevant today and important as they have been in the past. and i really don't, you know, i went through last night doing a lot of reading and research. no, and we were doing this today and looked back at some things. i mean, i can honestly tell you in 30 years and being in sports and, and play by play in various roles. i can honestly tell you the last time that i actually was heavily invested in the olympics. i would say on more invest in the

winter olympics, and that's because of my love as you guys know for hockey, but i don't think they are scotty. i think it's changed so much. and i think specifically in our country here in the us with all the pro sports, i think that's where everyone's attention is and, and i just don't get as excited as i used to get about it, let's say. and i'll, i'll tell you my age, i'm 53 back in the eighty's and even in of the ninety's when i was really into the olympics. but in the last 20 years, i really haven't been that into the olympics in general, the summer olympics, or how would you know the olympics have always been seen as a source for diplomatic relations? however, do you feel like it's now becoming kind of more of a punishment if you do not go along with this a world wide agenda versus a motivation for everyone to get along as well. the olympics are full of contradictions on that front and one president will say, politics has nothing to do with the olympics. k 2 and 6 people that college x l z olympics. and then another president will say, a,

we're going to recognize taiwan or we're not going to recognize taiwan or we're going to recognize russia. we're not going to or whatever. and it's pretty arbitrary. it's in the hands of the i o. c. there answerable to nobody. so of course the olympics of political and sort of on the big geo political level and also at the macro level embarrasses we're seeing right now. oh, that's the thing steve. because over the years, i know you've covered several different ways, whether be the window, the summer events, as well as other monumental sports events around the globe. you know, there's supposed to bring this huge economic benefit to city, especially obviously booth tourism, but obviously show the world how great the city is. but it also costs the city a lot of money as well. do you feel like that it's still the economic benefit today that it once was, and our city is still trying to attract, it may be as competitively as they have been in the past. oh,

cities are definitely bidding for and bidding words to host the elliptic still. however, i don't think it is a to an economic benefit always depending on the city like real. for example, in 2016 a famously lost a lot of money. they were in the whole, i think, a couple of $1000000000.00, and that's partly because they didn't really have the infrastructure to begin with . but if you're, you know, you have cities like in, in france for example, like parents or cities here in the us. that will host the coming up. the infrastructure is already there to an extent, so they will probably break even though, because historically most cities have not profited from the olympics. but it is still prestigious and an honor to host them. and it brings a lot of attention and tourism to, to local businesses. however, in terms of the city itself, they do end up either breaking even or losing a lot of money. been this could not have been much of a surprise. i mean, everything that's going on within the french government was sort of predicted they've obviously had lots of protest over the years. do you think however, that currently because of what's going on in parliament that the french people have

been able to or the french government have been responsible and carried out all of the problems that they made, which initially attracted the olympics to their land for the summer of 2024. when they made this bed years ago that i wish i had the answer for you on that. i mean i, i certainly have my own opinion and i'd say no on that. it watching a lot of the things again last night watching, you know, the way that the village is set up and, and things going on with the river. i, i don't know that they are, and i just think it's such a massive undertaking to bring all these things together. i mean, if you look back through the course of olympics, i have other cities done what they said they were going to do. i don't know the answer to that either, but i sure am looking forward to seeing how it all goes there. i mean, one of the things i really thought was great was the eiffel tower in the backdrop, the volleyball courts there. and i think a lot of the things they have set up are cool, but in terms of your question again, i would say no to that, scotty. i don't think they have well and how and you know,

between personal crone actually dissolving parliament and throwing this government to chaos. as well as some of the terms we've seen on green friendly policies which they have actually fronted. the one that comes on mind is this installing ac units . when they said at 1st there was going to be no air conditioning because they did not want to put the carbon footprint. and then obviously all these countries, including the united states that we're going to bring our own up. do you think that the elizabeth committed the i a see actually deserves all of the controversy that it's being that is being given right now. so yes and most, oh absolutely, um and it's from my perspective, it's a good thing to see increasing critique got, i've been getting for this for more than 25 years and as have a lot of other little bit critics. and every year we see increasing numbers of protesters, of grassroots groups that are organizing on environment issues or any poverty

issues of the, the criminalization of homelessness, all sorts of social issues, social impacts and economic impacts the, the cost of tax pay us. so yeah, more, more is good in terms of protest and raising go to awareness of the downside of the what fix? well, but that's the thing, does it take away from the assets? so that's why i'm, that's my question to you. how end is because do you feel like in any way? well, yes, those causes are probably very, very well deserved. does it take away where people are more focused on those that have nothing necessarily with the assets who have spent years training for? is it fair necessarily to mix the 2? i think the view is around the world can do 2 things at the same time. i think they can be, have their awareness raised about social and economic environmental issues and at the same time, appreciate and value the works. it's gone. the dedication of the athletes, and that will save. you've talked a lot of these assets when you're doing your interviews with them,

do they often bring up some of these issues that are being protested or do they more focused on their support when they're talking with you as well? i think it depends on what the issue is specifically mostly they're focused on their support. but when it comes to, for example, uh russian athletes and bella restaurant ethics being banned from participating in terms of the ceremonial aspect in terms of having their flag in their anthem play. they have to participate as new travelers. they have a lot to say about that and then a lot, lot of other rapids are also, you know, kind of for that as well due to the conflict going on and you created. but that's very hypocritical, because we could say the same about a lot of other conflicts going on where you could make the argument that us or is real, shouldn't be allowed to have their flag, or anthem plated as well. if we're gonna, you know, it should be a blanket rule. if you're going to be, can, you know, if you're going to enforce that, you should be consistent. but personally, i don't think any of that should be punished due to what their government or leader

does in terms of uh, being involved and conflicts. because sports and, you know, conflict such as war should not be a mixed it's, it's a totally separate issue. so yeah, they're very vocal about issues such as well that and what's interesting about see, i know a lot of, uh, x, a sports coverage of it. sometimes try to avoid the politics at least in years past . but this year it seems like they cannot avoid it. hence why we're going to go to break, and when we come back, citizens are calling on the olympic committee to ben israel while this author and guys, a continues plus after complete ban of the 2022 winter olympics, the russian delegation will once again compete. however, will then be treated fairly and accepted like all of the other athletes. so we'll continue our discussion as our panel experts after the break the the is it possible to get lost in time? well,

come to kentucky and see for yourself. here several groups are remaining in their own bubble of sorts, surrounded by the beautiful last is of the ancient traditions and culture. and if we come this far, we know that it's going to be worth the journey. the welcome back. now there is really been in olympic game, there was not affected by conflict in another region of the world. however, this year the international olympic committee has ruled, the athletes for the russian or bela version at passport must compete only as individual neutral athletes. teams of athletes with a russian or bela version, passports can not be considered as a to actively support the work cannot compete. this seems highly targeted,

considering russia is not the only country currently abroad and conflict. so let's bring back our panel to discuss sports and the list, the per stock of sports cash or bin holden, and how long netscape professor am are just as unique, toronto and author of inside the olympic industry, power politics in active and thank you so much for joining us again, i will start with you on this been and let me talk about how the fact that in the past, like i said, sports broadcast has never gone into politics. you cover sports, but more and more in today's society, you're having to get the politics, especially if you're an international sports broadcaster, you're right in the middle of it, you're still have to become very much influenced or know what's going on g a politically. so let's focus on the athletes 1st. been, do you feel like those athletes from countries that are in broiled and regional disputes are being treated fairly by the i a see this year? no, i don't. and i, i don't know that they have been since all this started. i mean, you,

steve and i were to gather what all this stuff started and we know what happened to us and in an aspect of our lives. so i don't agree with it at all. i, i've said it going back to 2022 when the winter olympics were going, when the russian hockey team played, they play in the winter olympics as the olympic athletes of russia. all the other winter olympic athletes for russia were able to play. and i don't think it's fair because of what their president is doing. they have nothing to do with this. i mean, if they're over there taken time off to go fight and get involved in that, i have a different opinion. but now i think it's completely unfair think, but, and i'm an american, i got a flag on my told i served in the military. i love my country, but back in we were in afghanistan. how come there was no pushback for us? was that is the something my thought about last night was that because of social media and because of what you talked about, scott, it's the geo political stuff and how everything's tied in now. and in a lot of people say a stick to sports. but sometimes we can,

and so i think it's completely unfair. you know, the, the world junior hockey team for, for russia, they were supposed to host the event. they got that poll. i understand that. i know it's a slippery slope that was in the country of russia. and so i think that's a different category of involvement. i think for these athletes to go participate in the olympics and represent their country. i think that is something they should be able to do. it doesn't matter to me what their president is doing and what he's doing to another country. do i favor it? i don't absolutely favorite. i'm against it. but yeah, we should be able to participate for all the work they put in their commitment to their country and the commitment of what they've done. and that's trying to, when it will impact metal was the thing helen from where you say, i know that probably you're more focused a lot on more of the social as she issues they've done having to do is the only big . however, do you think that some countries are treated differently when they're involved in that conflict versus other call other countries when they're involved? is there an equal standard across the board to know this,

a long history of that not being in a close standard and one of the classic examples going way back in history. the 1936, not see a lympics as they have now been called held in belvin and the negotiations between hitler and his buddies and the i a c and the american olympic committee and so on. and they all kind of got together and said, oh it will be okay. we want to go after the jewish athletes. everyone will be safe and then fast forward to search e and pollution. assuring the world that l g, b, t, q athletes and sustains, would be safe. and there's just so many inconsistency so many double standards as you mentioned. so that's why it's, it's hypocritical for the odyssey to say, we don't want to get involved in politics that up to the next in politics. oh, that's the thing,

steve. do you feel like the olympic athletes when you talk to them, have more empathy towards each other based on their countries and therefore treat them fairly compared to the general public in the attendance, as well as the ministration they lympics did they give each other empathy knowing that if well this year, my country might be beloved for next year. it might not be so therefore let's just compete against each other, $1.00 to $1.00 and forget the politics a. well, i think it depends on which aspect you were talking about where they come from. for example, i'm thinking about wimbledon, which is going on right now. and a couple of years ago, due to this conflict with russia and ukraine, russian athletes and bell russian to not compete at all. then the next year they decided to let them complete. but as new drap leads, again, just like with the olympics, no flag, no anthem, if they went um. but you know, we had players like no big joke. ridge come out against that, supporting the russian out, please. because he knows what it's like to be ostracized. as we know not just mentioned in from his, for a lot of controversy, but then we had other players like the world, number one,

the women's side. he goes to be on tech who's published say that will then, you know, did not they should, they should have held that ban up and then made the example out of these russian athletes. and so it depends on who you talk to. but again, i agree with both helen and, and then they have power seats is undeniable here in the double standard. and you know, all these out, these work work their whole life to get to a certain point. and they shouldn't have that taken away due to something they have nothing to do with just because of where they were born. what's interesting, we're talking about complex, obviously military conflicts or have any regions. i wanna talk to also specific issues that are happening been there's still a controversy that remains regarding the use of certain drugs by athletes. after several years of debates, we still don't have an answer. shy, kerry richardson was left off the us olympic team because she tested positive for t h. c, which is a chemical founded marijuana. do you think the sports community feels the rules regarding the use of recreational drugs, like marijuana by athletes? are outdated,

considering the continuation continued legalization marijuana around the globe. a that's a tough one. i mean, i think you that's why, why did you with it? i need you to handle it better. i understand that i don't know what the number is. got a, you may know, but i think it's in the 30s of how many states in this country in the united states were marijuana as legal. and i'm not, i'm not a medical expert by any means. sometimes i pretend to be when i'm doing games, but i say that tongue in cheek kidding, but i don't know that marijuana gives you a performance enhancing edge. when you're talking about competing in sports. i mean, i think it's clear the coal chain does drugs like that that are stimulates, cat stimulates can. um, but it's, it's something that i think is, is to me, it's almost patty for what they did to her richardson as you referred to. and i don't know that that's i'd have to see the list of banned substances. i suppose. i don't believe that. then all of that should, you know,

should factor into her not being able to compete me olympic. so i think uh, i think it was a petty thing they did and, and, and i think it away. i think that might have been political. i mean, we're talking a lot about politics and sports and, and she is one of the best in the world. so who knows what the, what the make of that, but i think they need to do something to, to have a you know, a change to that, that rule. well, a universe of what such as term, then the opposite, cuz you got steve, chris, talkers. there was legendary lynn figures somewhere michael phelps. i know he's her hero, told a us house panel that the olympic games may unravel if sports doping is allowed to continue. this session was followed revelations and reese weeks at the top. chinese swimmers are scheduled to compete next month at the paris summer olympics tested positive repeatedly for performance enhancing drugs. nothing's been done. do you expect the olympic committee to take the issue up and roll one way or the other, or just being done by to many countries who will fight behind the scenes?

yeah, i really don't have any face in the i a see to, to, you know, do anything about this, but because like, like ben said, it's very selective when they choose the band to carry richardson for something that is definitely not a performance enhancing drug. if anything it makes you a lot more mellow and i don't think she would ever want to smoke weed, you know, before a performance. however, what michael phelps is saying, when he talks about the chinese swimmer specifically, they were using a band heart medication i believe, which can help regulate their heart rate and therefore increase their performance. so that is a p d which should be punished. i think those athletes should be dealt with and the aisles he seems to allow that. but then ban secured richardson for canada. so it doesn't make any sense. the inconsistency is glaring and i don't have any face that they will do something about it, but i definitely agree with michael phelps in terms of something that is actually a p d. right, well and so how long you've been speaking of the progress, the that exist on both social as well as how each countries treated one versus the

other. what is the right way? is there a way that the olympics to do this? that would be fair across the board. and what would be your top suggestion? you would give the i a see to avoid controversies because the olympics aren't going anywhere. but to avoid future controversies where that becomes the story and focus on that instead of the athletes in the games that are going on as well, in terms of the doting that's administered by a lot of the world and you doting agency and then the list of ben drugs is by just as inconsistent and has just as big a double standard as every other aspect of the olympics. and so the other guests are right, but there are drugs on that list of band drugs that do nothing in terms of performance enhancement. and yet, athletes get bend sometimes one year, sometimes 3 years in outrages, decisions and they have very little re cause they can go to the code of arbitration for support, which i've written an entire book about intensive. it's inconsistencies,

it's pretty much useless as an arbitration truck, you know, because it does not rely on past decisions. a different panel looks at every different case. and i've documented dozens of unfair cases of us. canadian estimates from all around the world where one gets off and the other gets a band just so that would be a, a beginning step for the olympics to change so that the, the doping situation was cleaned up. literally. on the other hand, this, this moves to have the enhanced games where drugs are doping is actually allowed. and that may or may not happen next year. any one actually has publicly said that he's going to continue. he's a retired australian swimmer, but that sort of turns the whole thing on it's his like imagine having games where everybody is up to the gilding of whatever just just or on the new or offended

means or whatever. whatever enhanced is performance. and i think the sad part all of this is that all of these assets are mentors. these are goals that younger children are watching when they're sports. and what are they actually, what lessons are they learning in order to be successful in their support and maybe them to one day competing the olympics. the for soccer has been holding hell, let's do. thank you so much for joining us on our olympic preview. special. a thank you. thank you. the origins of the olympic games date all the way back to 776, b. c. at a place called olivia the site where worshippers gathered to honor the various gods . the olympics, in fact, were created 200 graces, most famous god, zeus, and continued until 39380. what, after 12 centuries and for the adapt is the 1st a christian band. all pagan festivals, it would not be for nearly 1500 years until baron appeared. de cooper, 10,

a frenchman would resurrect the game harbour today. i don't think the baron would be very proud of the hosting job his country is doing for the olympic games. as most of the controversy surrounding this year's summer games are man made and could have been avoided if only wisdom had been used by leadership. the games are supposed to be about the athletes involved have spent their entire lives preparing for this competition. the lack of respect to being shown for the competitors and by those in charge both with in the olympic organizations as well as the political leadership of the host country, is not only insulting to the athletes but to the rest of the world. but hey, that is just my perspective. that's all we have for today. for the meantime of find me on x at s and a perspective. and let me know yours by using the hash tag perspective. cnx on the,

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