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1000000 dollars, based on the corporations that we go bankrupt, the hello and welcome to cross dot com peter little. here we discuss some real things. there was talk and maybe only talk you brain is interested in and negotiated into the counseling. what does drugs have to do with this? also, what a harris administration take a different position on the goss a genocide? to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, steven guides in belgrade. he is a research associates at build rates, institute of european studies, and in lisbon. we have alexander guerrero. he is an international legal analyst or a gentleman, cross that rules and the fact that means he can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate that. i start out with steve and, you know, it's interesting over the last i'd say 2 weeks we've had a lot of different um,
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noise being made, people can call it that we had about it came up on via and void to p a. and so wednesday saying this more must come to an end. we had a picture of the photo band doing being a real glow drought are going to give going to moscow going to be using. and then to be son when he got back to europe. and then curiously, we have drum still saying that he can end the war and the war before he's, you know, upgraded if elected. we have precious a little information on that. and then we had some of the likes of mike and peo show up at the republican national convention, basically wanting to trail double down triple down while dribble down. completely at odds that went from seemingly has said, but, but there is something going on here and i think it has to do with the american election, your thoughts, it exactly. it has to do with the american election,
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but also with the american graphs strategy. because the americans cannot then he realized over wants to use the bacon not lead to major wars or be behind 2 major wars at the same time. so what we see with the possible trump return might be that they want to shut down the brain in the eastern european conflict for awhile and to complete the causal traits on nothing. yahoo was bland to conquer the middle east uh to spread the war. uh so what is really important is the message that the nav was sent to the congress. it is also improving boards of the to a lot of colors and did not very come, but still have the have she had a very warm welcome after 10 months of. busy of peeling but similarly goes in some diligence. so uh, i think the truck and the west in general wants
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a stalemate. and ukraine, which uh, i don't think the directions are going to 12 or that. uh, so their whole game, i think in a way is based on uh, several completely false assumptions. they are behaving like multi broker is assuming that surveys are going to happen. for instance, assumption number one is that the russell was to negotiate. first of all, we're also does not have we room to negotiate because after may 20th, it does not recognize the last key as a legitimate president after the 28th of august. that on the parliament to great also won't be a legitimate a body to negotiate with. so hoarding either to go see it with and why would they want to negotiate before the end of the goal? the bills that uh, they obsess. and so this is assumption number one that is based that it, or the one walk to the far from the racist thought that russia is going to
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bile to the white gods from capitol hill and brussels and then to whatever they like. and please, so that is one thing. what we hear constantly from people in the west is that the, the current flight of division is going to be the future border of 800 or sorry, the south korea kind of the supplement. where did they get this story from? so that is, there is one thing. uh, we will see what happens because i'm sure there's a lot of tension in into us, not maybe about the right strategy, but about how to do that. because you have for american dudley. yeah. that means coordinated. yeah. russia, china, north korea and he run and you have the american uh, mail it 3 as a potential. okay. can watch really things like delete this war. so i, i honestly don't though. what really funny, but one thing,
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one thing is for sure is, is that what the client state? let me throw this the alexander now the client state ukraine sees the, the real possibility that there will be a change of power in, in the white house, at least, maybe not in the bureaucracy. and that they're, they want to hedge their bets. i mean they're, they're obviously see themselves in a very, very weak position. would you look at the news about the financial situation that it isn't giving enough coverage and the west me, ukraine is broke. i mean, in bad we broke and that there is no. um, you know, you can, you know, you can have the interest from a russian ass that's, you know, 1300000000 here, 1400000000. that's not going to change their financial situation in your grade. but it's, it's really interesting to me, is it because of the potential change of administration? you have people that are saying this is biden's ward with wind it down and then you
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have like people like my mike from day oh that, oh, this is really what we, we want to go back to a reagan foreign policy. there's a lot of different things going on at the same time. what are your thoughts exactly . so 1st let me and let me remember once again that to bring is not only broke financially. is world politically, demographically, is no longer a southern states for a say some time ago. and at the present moment it is more than a failed state. it almost looks like somalia is the same style, but in europe. so it's not, no more, no longer a matter all financially plus or shape. it has nothing to do with it. it has at the present only to do with the future of a country. and what country are we going to have in the matter up to 3 years? so what your brain are we going to have if any, so this shouldn't be the point to be discussed presently. then at the same time,
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i think that we should focus on the very specific aspects of american politics. because as we all know, the president of the united states has limited powers. g bad. he realized a lot on the congress, and i believe that it was due to this that mike on bail came to public to give this guy the interview. started with the blood pressure pressure in donald trump. but at the same time, if we remember sam, some of the donald trump speech, little as 6 to 7 months ago, she was defending and supporting the decision of a land lease to you break. no, he wants to put and then to this. but what kind of and this you want to put to, we know that she can approve. she can adopt several executive orders. but no more than that. you will need the support of the congress to make the best any kind of plan or project for you bringing war presently, which i have to remember. it's a long term war in your brain since 2014. so it's not the only concerning the
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rest yet. this plan must cover at the same time, aspects of all the spring and resistance, which is presently no longer luckily active. but this way too strong, in order to evolve gimme zalesky against the wall and makes seem at least accept any kind of peace deal in the west. just steps aside, leaving your brain alone. so no longer your brain has enough power to have award to have a se on discounts like so. i don't think, i just think they've had this, let's say for a very long time. you know, steven the, the, the variable or people like to say the 800 pound gorilla in the corner is quite visible in, in people, in the west, in policy makers ignore it, rushes already presented numerous times. it's a starting point for negotiations. no big deal with the the lead me obviously the ukrainians aren't happy about him. it's wilcox,
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their patrons and the west are not happy about it, but it is a starting point and that is a way this conflict can come to an end. but until up until the west recognizes the terms and conditions of starting negotiate next, this is up in this is danny day. go ahead. stephen ross. so it doesn't have any incentive to believe that the west is going to stick to any word or any deal because they have missed one and these 2 and then the number to the girl by that. but i mean, every thing, all the are, all the body arsenal was out there. and uh, i mean its starting with the deal that the, uh, the general go, which the son of the lost it far away with the, the western countries or the last it for less of by 4 hours. so i don't think the dresser is really motivated at this point where he's has a really huge leverage in the conflict. what i don't get is this
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discrepancy between what the west wants and what it can do. what the collective data, let's say was that what do you happen to have kids can do. so maybe co um let's say, uh, change in washington from by the drum from uh that across the republicans is to uh, to have a fresh start black and say in this ongoing global war i had the same. yeah. did you meet with stephen? i, i think i agree with you in the fresh start. let me throw this to alexandra. now the press start should be read. framing this conflict completely in that we naming is pan european security architecture that, that's actually a base saving measure as well. if you think about, it's like how do we, okay, we can all disagree and how we got here, but we were at the end,
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we have an in game where everybody has the indivisibility of security. i know that's a hard sell for western politicians because they don't even know what the word indivisible, in indivisibility of security means. but i think that is a starting point of alexandria. it shows the bus is please remember that we have the so called rules based order. one that you about, according to western concepts and ideal of use means that whatever washington says it must be followed by all other western european countries. so it shouldn't be an inability, it also shouldn't be to prevail, the brief people celebrating the quality. this is not only a customary paysimple in international law, it's also enshrined in this out there of the united nation. so therefore, i think that all this should be taken as an, as a starting point. but when we listen to the speech is of course live on that lie. and even during this week, suggesting that you want to harass them to sell into the,
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to deliver all the money from russian assets to, to support your branyon military efforts. i don't think that we are getting any, any place like that in the, in the meantime. because they just want to pursue their just want to feed the war machine. and when do we, in the same time, listen to the democrats, the democratic party, the alternative to which allegedly should be kamala. first, she likes galleries and then she likes idea elegy, she's changing her opinion depending on where the ball. but alexander is that the perfect vessel for the deep state. i mean, she's there waiting to edit it all. my goodness, i'm blank sheet. ok with milk or is alright settlement. i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our to special events and we'll in stay with our team. the
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the welcome make across that time peter live out here we discuss some women's. all right, let's go back to steve. it's a comfortable, harrison. so the, the, the big name and the news right now. um, uh, i think that is really interesting how quickly everyone's forgotten, joe biden. that'll be something for the history books to discuss. okay. the reason why i wanted to talk about, you know, she made these, if she met with the benjamin netanyahu, these really prime minister when he was on is a man american tour that was cut short. um and um, you know, she said that she will not remain silent, which it, oh wow, really hit the there were the big sense, you know, was shock waves of around the eco system of those. that was a support israel and it's genocidal conflict in gaza. but, you know, it's, it's really interesting to me is that, you know, virtu,
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signaling isn't going to do the trick here. ok, i mean, so much of american politics is about that. but there are, there are a number of people and you know, it could be 2 or 34 percent of the electorate, but that could make the difference in an election. they're not on teams genocide. so kamala harris, as we mentioned, the 1st part of the program, you know, lacking christmas, lacking in knowledge. but if it's the isn't going to get her, isn't going to get her the votes that she needs. let's put it that way. go head to be exactly or her whole campaign looks to me. you mean, judging by the 1st video that we've seen, it looks like a big piano. coca cola company as it's, it's very core press. it's a, it's a, it's, it's all in virtue, singling and then the language that she uses, she said that she knows the type of guy, the trump is. i mean, what is that suppose to mean it is that he's really, uh,
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is really interesting. i mean, because the democratic party has a big, i would say i the logical problem and is going to do some soul searching. i think even after this election because a large portion of its especially young boulders are completely, i guess the simplest of boards supporting it. i wouldn't say only he's real but, but specifically that the knack was policies which are quite harsh. and even betty guns would say suicide over these relative stakes. so uh, i think that current campaign and what would she do if, if she ever got elected, which i really doubt are 2 completely different things. and the very fact that uh, at the end of the day she met with the knack who is speaking volumes. so i think the, the main problem here for the americas is how to assert the dominant position that
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they are losing to they are not hiding anymore and how to lead to, or the, perhaps in the future, 3 major complex uh, the same time. so what they may be want to do, i, i be obviously this from the beginning is to pause one so that they could accelerate the, the other bile. so they'll know how is that possible? because even if, let's say israel, i escalates with lab or no, uh, possibly with the ron and the other icons says, uh, added the america gallery comes uh, where is the, in the game to the ultimate uh, we even know solely looking at the numbers. uh, what is to come out of it? and i think that the, the, the answer to this question that doesn't have um, neither of the but that one se campbell, i think, you know, you had seen that it's really interesting. is it, i agree with you. i mean, if there is no strategy here, there are a lot of tactics involved,
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but there's no strategy and that's why it's flailing. i'll, when we look at the kind of like the new grade and obviously the sample american backing of israel's genocide will campaign in gaza. oh, alexander, i mean, that's the fact that, that someone like kamala harris would say that, you know, um, she, she wants to, she expresses empathy tube for what's happening to the palestinians. but that is actually an active cowardice because you know, he'll be the chief executive, the united states as enormous power when it comes to a support of an individual country like israel. but she won't exercise it. okay. and it's very easy even saying that she will not be silent, shows an admission a big will. she might talk about it, but policy isn't going to change this. so think we're that buckled this, you know, appear to be for one of the simple reasons, is that kamala harris is part of the,
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by the ministration or the last 4 years, the have been totally supportive of israel along all these years. what has so then we change, besides the fact that now she needs to present to the public, the different speech. she must left forget that in united states it's all about the donors don't. for a gas would buckle joe by the door. the don't, there's only they would take the whole don't mind and don't forget to buckle the news saying don't there is no longer support to buy than dollars are asked him to run by them to step down. so it's all about any leads. and at the same time, forget national goals, we have to focus on the swing states, and presently kamala is losing beat time. all those falls in the spring state. so it comes up all way through these elements. she needs to present to the probably a totally different speech. don't also forget that kamala is speaking popular among the for american billy communities. so she needs to bring something completely
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different because she knows she has been part of the problem. over the last 4 years, she supported blindly, all the solutions brought by the, by the restriction she is the, by the in administration. so we can forget that this change of her speech. i believe that the press should put some pressure on her, at least to ask her what kind of solution this to support. because coming to all the thing i want you to like mentor, you're, you're here, you're thinking lights of lawyer. okay. you are okay. i guess the, but i've already watched the media coverage here. all this is such a told him about it's unbelievable. i said after the, the democratic 2 against the body. i just said buckle up and embrace spray impact. you're going to see the greatest make over in such a short amount of time in a, in history, and we're seeing it or right now. okay, why can't you guys, i'd say it's remarkable how jo buying this has been disappeared. i mean,
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it is gone today and we have a new administration, but some income, but it's really amazing what they're doing. okay. but they have his alexander pointed out, you know, it's basically michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania and we get, and then with the in those states themselves, it's certainly congressional districts. that's where she has a huge problem. and that's what the make over challenge is all about. go ahead and stephen, exactly, i mean, the whole procedure of getting go from by the into harris was completely and then we'll grab it. and then we'll credit the procedure because previously by then got the unilateral of that and then the unified, the, sorry, uh, support of the democratic party. and then all of a sudden, uh, they own get scandalized and realized after 4 years that he is indeed they met dementia. and uh, they realize that only during the debates. uh,
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but this probably was the worst. lets say uh, that was the worst uh, appearance of bite and in general, i mean, she had some really good moments before the debate. and it seems all decided that they are cuz they were coordinated indeed efforts to, to get him off of the picture and put harris, which um, i mean, we can bill to have and try to figure out the several z or is why is that? uh and whether there is a new consensus about the, the trump $2.00. uh that should, uh, you know, make this fresh starts uh, when with the, with the complex re, it'd be, i tried to appease the ra, shows. uh and i tried to, but there's also, and the 2nd full pulse is i'm trying to and with that is that russia, if it's samples or whatever piece the was the well, was the ssl for age will
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a non healthy iran restaurant has already signed? and he's already coordinated in the files way they're brought with syria, with north korea, which side with the in the potentially all this done and many other players in the me. but we only get describing, you know, what you're describing in, you know, i talked about this on this program before, is a, we've been told that we were on the, on the verge of a 3rd world war. i would posit to both of you were already in the 3rd world war. exactly. tell me very start. yeah, exactly. we are and does, there were more. and then the, the, the only question is how to frame it, how to sell it. and what was good about trump is that, is she, is she? she was always a good salesman. so why don't he's talking points? is that if i, when i will stop the 3rd world war,
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what he's saying is i will settle a deal with russia and focus on other parts because the major problems from economy to the global security are not going to be settled with one piece deal. i think that the best well the right cuz i can achieve at this moment, but i don't think they have the rationale or the this whole powerhouse wants to, has any incentive to do that is to move to the historical example of the call sir, to break powers of game off, there's any pull the on boards, but unfortunately i don't see neither side. uh, india, american olives. they simply go horsepower, spectra routing for him, increasing even, you know, that's one of the major ongoing motives of this program is having rationality and be because we'll be with global solve, understands geo politics. the, the west is
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a pure a t test and that's why it doesn't work. alexander stephen is absolutely right to me. you know, i don't want to be try to anything, but we, when we look for a win win here, no, the west will not allow that. they will not be good for ideological reasons. alexander, personal, if they want to collapse of pressure and off all the blow up that's present play is on the same side as russia. they have a mentality of funding to which they have to prevail. they want to double take a pollution from russia and it's spell eyes as simple as this. they don't want to leave the, in the peacefully, the peaceful way along with russia and all other countries, they want the profile. they want to impose their ideals, or they want to impose their principles. that sadly is as simple as simple as this they, they don't know how to lead along with any other different spaces along with other cultures. they don't know how to do it. that's why they are so allergic to the
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