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mainly children, why is it possible with this being if you understand what the issue is, that's the point of the situation and our guys of course shield of them. check. you've been checking this by the way to fluctuate during the operation. and drake home of was injured and almost mowed down by a machine gun or something he loves off now as a minor detail. school hard? yeah. i needed to reach the group already inside the school. so i tried for the last, i thought they'd covered some distance and established some kind of safe zone. but when i saw they were shooting at us, i realized we had no cover. the armored personnel carriers that were suppose to help had gone and the other direction. yeah. i rushed over, turn the apc's around position them for cover. and only then did i think to ask what was going on. i climbed through a window and saw my colleague who was commanding the 1st assault group. he was wounded in shouting, don't go in or they'll kill you. despite his warnings and i tried going through the window several times, a machine gunner was probably right at the end of the cord or with several guns. i
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must have shown my helmet a few times and he guessed my move. when i was about to jump down, my colleague shouted and literally stopped me. i was standing on the window sill. yeah, that's when the bullet hit me, blowing apart the upper part of my face, it hit the window frame, sending fragments into my eyes, and causing multiple luminous creative of somebody to this day veterans of the alpha group to meet with those they saved on the 1st of september, 2004 with dyslexia, i have been to best long 4 times. i am completely impressed by how the residents have best long relate to discharge date by the 8th and the school was rebuilt. and the new school bed is the name of all guys, a lot of special forces street, of the special forces center that the best when people are even off the losing so much still understand that we did everything possible that it is very valuable to us side so on september 3rd, we meet again. that will be a delegation from a set to you. and we will see what happened to those kids that we free 20 years ago
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. these a grow, not women and men who have achieved a lot in life, but they remember what happened. they remember us of them to be. i chose, we realize that after freeing people, we will never meet them again. or we may never cross paths again, anywhere in our lives. we don't meet them before the attack and after the attack at to their release, we may never see them again for an exception is best long because it involve children. and there was an emotional factor for them if they want to meet those who freed them for who one can say extended their lives, 5 decades and 6 generations of fighters since its creation the out for group carries on it as becomes the embodiments of a promise there is someone to save you no matter to the barrow. i'm a goose down of out see. ringback the
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i'm ashton, or tennessee and welcome back to going underground broadcasting around the world from the u. a. e. what's to become of us possible western europe and now a month after elections, which proved how it's off. ability and population do not support it's a n t piece. negotiation lead is a recent poll showed close on 90 percent of the people of nature, belligerents like the usa, germany, and france and britain want a negotiated piece and ukraine while blinking his in tokyo today organizing, perhaps more preparations against china with australia in the japanese and indian kinds of pods, the new head of the british army. meanwhile, times the you k has to be ready full war on russia, china, iran, and north korea within 3 is joining me now from you capital brussels as vx united nations assistant secretary general michael financial and bug is the elected m e p
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. with the sar wagon exec alliance or reason, i'm just this policy in the europe and bottom and thanks so much for coming on. so me, you, in the systems like the general you've, uh, you mean warning of world war in recent weeks yesterday booting celebrated the power of the russian navy and that's well blinking is amazing. is maybe woman good . quad partners in tokyo, britain double down. oh, more with rusher, it seems. what is the schultz a position that let us live on the land? of course, who was re elected the head of the parliament to uh, is it like uh, i don't know they, they still think one guy though is the president of venezuela. i don't know if he has any real position. i think he seems to run always behind history and say a softer with everything. but that's the have a strategy behind it, i doubt, and a much rising the, the gym government is completely overburdened by, by this war and being engaged in this one. i don't think he he himself is of them
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longer, but he ends up all the time to say yes and at something in addition, now i probably know more about the yorba bonham as what happens here than i know it's in germany. but um, but uh, i think germany is going to pay the price for, for this in the size of the tooth. so we have to the wall, of course we have to have a piece piece, negotiations and things like this on the comp. i continue this rumbling around that we will, that'd be have to be ready for war. and the thing is, i guess, one of the things that we still when the war and things like i said, it's completely unrealistic policy sizing. so when you're watching from brussel, even more than it was probably a year, a year ago when you're watching for brussels, boris, the story is the german, the for the german defense minister who is with john hayley, the bridge counterpart of the other day, comparing food into hit to a and, and does it tell me about boris victorious? actually, i mean, is good showed is deputy cheapest stuff. and the, what?
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well, what does he mean? i mean that alone, this avoiding israel to the hilt in a, in a village genocide, in this region. i seen you, i'm the wrong person. you're honest. i haven't lived in germany since 1978. you know, it was always busy. you went outside, i've never come back now or come on in the 1st time back. i think the uh, i don't understand a man actually i as you know, it's a policies, a pass to which they are going to lose. they are going to lose because it is something that you will not be able to. they will not be able to maintain such a policy for a long time. i mean, you're saying that, but i don't know and we'll get back to the are being problem a bit. yeah. the russian goodness marguerite, the tell the marguerite assume on yeah. and of i t u i t use general release to the world lead conversations. a gentleman offices discussing of the use of taurus of ms tiles target in russia. what's the reaction in the are p environment that alone in
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the bundle stag or in june? i mean the, it's a 30 minute call. i didn't know whether you listen to it, whether it's just talking about targeting missiles into russia is or yeah, of course that somebody like, oh no. but uh, yeah, i mean, i mean, that's the situation. i think the happens politically, which is completely detached from, from reality reality in their own country reality around them. because i thing the, what happens in, in ukraine is not pretty sure say, you know, with which direction it's going to go and they've, you see the changes in the united states and things like this one. i think germany does something which is, is unexplainable for me, i just can't explain it. there was a connect, explain what happens. see, under your pin fall limits, you're saying it's pretty obvious that a lens because you lose the war. but that's not reflected in the newspapers you're getting on the last of all, i mean, the last of all, i mean this, this is a type of thing. you know, couldn't charge them to continue the war by people who, who don't have a son or daughter in the wall who don't have any capital child coming back. i mean,
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i've seen was, was asked and nothing here. roy about was i've seen a lot of voice in my life. there's nothing here really getting the engine this never every night in it and be still saying that he can continue this war and to have it we know against the restaurant. it will not happen. yeah, but i mean, the, the, by the ministration says, is now was to station long range nuclear capable of missiles at remedying and base a thousands, i mean, they already host thousands of us soldiers, obviously on germany, german land. i mean, what do you think would be western europeans? i'm thinking of all these. a huge developments. i mean, i mentioned britain earlier, they pledged 3000000000 pounds every yeah, way, more guns and ammunition. they don't listening to what you're saying about the hundreds of thousands of lives lost of men, women, and children and ukraine. you know, as a sort of, i fear that 1st of all of the stationing all of these attack and results on jet them, territory would be, i think, in 2 years or some, i think is actually
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a sign of weakness. it's not assigned a strengths. it's, you know, they, they feel they lose the war and they have not just strength of nato. they have for you to that, that all of this by down the, that routine wants to have coffee and building on the enough. and so on. i see what these basically do, trying to defend why we have still have nato because at the end of this war, naperville the in the big crisis. and i think it would be more prices if you have a next president. that's carbon truck. mr. trump, nature is in big trouble for it's future. and yet, you know, is this thing, the defendants and we have to go big strategies. i think it's all the sign of weakness is of course, a dangerous one, but it's a sign of weakness. but you read the newspapers that come on your desk in brussels there as an m e p and what all of them will watch the tv, presumably, obviously television stations, newspapers, lots of them banned in western europe. what does it feel like they have your ideas
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in brussels knowing the in time media is presenting this as zalinski will when if very more weapons in more subsidies and more german tank sent to the front line. okay. said just something about to europe in parliament because you know, i'm here on the since what for days? i mean, it wasn't, it's it of course instruct book. i was actually shocked, and i've seen a lot of nasty things in my life, but i was shocked by the language used. and that's 51. the deputies out of $700.00 voted for the war. is lucian. i mean, it was nothing else. and the more at least resolution in a more that is already in it. in the 3rd. yeah. in the sense yeah, usually you have and resolution which sort of try to find ways all of the assessment absolutely nothing. it speaks about that we have to continue the want to ukraine when civil war against pressure. so wash up would be defeated. it speaks
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about the special quote that all the russian politicians have to be present at the to it. it speaks about brush up having to pay for all the costs and speak on, especially it's a set of shopping normally negotiations and they cut down on open. i mean, as you call and have more lots of reality and touch strategy. then just sort of resolution with this resolution the you basically have said good bye to participating in any solutions for your creedmore. and this is a very dangerous thing because it's of, on europe, in territory with the biggest organization in europe entirely in territory is led by unrealistic them onset can not possibly possibly reach especially not europe. look at the front this week and not just the week. and i mean who else is that for me that maybe mrs. maloney, the attack is with never do anything. i mean the do it be the most anything that will never never happen. and this in after to an obvious of war is
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unbelievable. and i'm, yeah, i mean i going yes with the car doors and i see all these more rhetoric i, i, i, i'm, i'm just flabbergasted. and i to, i can see, i mean, i've seen a lot of was and i know how to develop and i know how the negotiations go. it was in quietness, but we don't even have quite take association. so you have nothing. you are p s basic. the said good bye to is solution on its own. come come thing that i mean, you can't be crazy. i've done this means that lensky is that by president. my very clear. i hope i'm about to accept the landscape. i present you, i think a new look. i didn't you know i compare this to the ronny rock boy you know a lot to do with us and it was a is a ceasefire. the language for you is the, in the parliament i think is more aggressive than what i've experienced in the wrong. it's just unbelievable. i mean, and i think if you have such an aggressive language, it is usually people who don't have an idea of how to get out of something as well . they've heard of nuclear weapons. there's other ways that by and by being more
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aggressive. but it, of course, the reality is what it is and in moss is a real thing. and the, and, and, and you won't change it because we've made that change of language. and so, you know, if you look at this one, i didn't do this many look into this, but we have a public opinion in europe. has that don't reflect public opinion anymore because this resolution, you know, we know that in the united states as basically say, i mean whatever you say about 5 and even then i think that basically said good bye to the small. i've seen the americans in, in the contest on the rock hawk creek easy davis draw from something they felt they couldn't ring anymore. and, and of course we have the whole house. i mean, it's just also what global styles. i know it's not a good word, but i mean, nobody supports the europe is, is isolated what's europe? it's 5 percent of the population, maybe 5 in off to send and declining and be we still behaved when we listen to the language of business from the line, the behavior this we are great paula in the world and you know,
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and we decided sanctions, everybody would shrink and say yes, as soon as we do what you want, it doesn't happen anymore. the world has changed to all these people. us live on the land. morales being replaced, i understand the foreign policy chief of the they may know, plan be, or contingency for. if washington decides, forget to lensky, it's over enough subsidy to take care of it. but the notice already, i mean, we know that the united states is drawing from this war and it, i mean, i may like if you have a trump there, and then these days, you know, be i do it early and i think he's right. he will do it and um, and he doesn't over our heads. and so the danger really, for europe is that we have an agreement on how to end the war in ukraine without any of all participation. and the result will be that we will have to pay the bill because it will be a very expensive end of or wherever you have collapsed ukraine,
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very likely. but if you have enough people fleeing still, there will be a lot of misery usually. you know, at the end of washing since they're not much worse than during the war, which keeps seeing some altogether. i mean the ending of a was that was easy, a terrible thing and it could cost us billions. we don't have, i mean, the gym government already announced that going to something that they will next. yeah. off their contribution to the ukraine. i mean, what does this one? i mean, it's a bit tre of, you know, that ukraine will not become involved. the european union, you know, they will not become members of nato this, this assault, it's called as a question my view and the people you sit next to in the, to your be in the union building in these buildings with europe and union. i mean, do you think they are being brainwashed? they actually believe persian wants to invade mullin or do they, or are they being bribed somehow to the right. well, no, no, no, no. what. so why did they think, i mean, do they think they do it and wants to invade, been in and brussels,
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the number of people, which i think are very serious, which i certainly believe that if you don't, you know, something people have putting into us there. that's why these days speak about the 2 years. we have to be ready for war and is all of its at. yeah, this, i think a lot of people, i mean, i couldn't kind of, i mean i've been home outside in my life. like i'm so strong that people, as i know say this, and it's a completely unrealistic thing. you know, the, what interests me most. yeah. about that or the question i ask myself so often why is often highly educated people who sit in these parliament and all the rest of it . why does it take this position? they must see that that what is different than what they present it is. and i have now only one onset to this one, and that is, and i, you know, i've left most of my life in this house. oh, what you called in on with some countries. the realize that it's that we live in what shots call that site. and then the only not the site and then the human,
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you know, at the time of change must have change. the dominance of the western world, which is mostly a white glove, is coming to an end. the nice thing is, especially the middle classes realize that this ukraine, more if it ends for them badly and which it looks at the us it, we also have long term impact on, on how they're seen in the unlikely. most like a whole other shows like i use, michael 100, you know? like i'll stop you there. more from jeremy's news. are i why going to connect alliance ibp and full when you and assistant secretary general after this break the
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welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with for me, you in the systems equity general and president german member of european parliament microphone to show them back a michael we were talking about the cognitive dissonance of your fellow. i mean piece in brussels. you know, it was only the other day that we had reports of 43 british special services as a s maybe s b. you killed by russia in odessa. then in germany, there's supposed to be this report on the north stream pipeline. we've had cy, hush, who exposed to the us involvement in that. what did you make of jeremy refusing to really is north stream investigation results? and is that not a debate in the european parliament, the largest environmental catastrophe? manmade perhaps in history, in terms of methane emissions because of the node stream pipelines, applying energy to germany from russia. they are the few days on the nothing is about it. and if you think if you want to protect the environment green deal,
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i mean, nothing is worse for the environment and the ross and the even these military operations probably produce more c o 2. but the kids have all our costs that i'm diesel. and no, there isn't, is no, it is also one sign of the nice thing. it's fee a i thing really it is fee it essentially it's fee a to face reality. and the t is that the world has changed. it has not changed because of the ukraine war, but it did create ukraine will accelerates the whole thing, you know. and then the bulk of its doctrine came in 92, you know, saying, you know, the united states as now the only superpower it has to have is the responsibility, blah, blah, blah. and to, to, to bring on up to the world. it's not anymore. i mean, the united states is economically, technologically, politically, not anymore. it's about maybe so, militarily, but the interesting thing, assisted by its old, a strong military, they lose all the boss. and i know as quite the opposite, which i experience myself. yeah, i think the west isn't if they did
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a situation and what we see in these elections in the united states between trump and, and buying an icing, a symptoms off on the western world, which is actually losing out losing. and the european union, as somebody from the line just doesn't want to realize that you need a different policy. you cannot become a super policy. she wants to, to have a huge state that you know where the ukraine and john john minova and all the rest of the company becomes sort of as is such a huge paula. and we want now to invest the military and have all and military and things like that. so it won't happen. luckily it wasn't happened. yeah, i mentioned, i mentioned 40, i know the sooner we should just say $43.00, but the special services it killed or wounded not killed, but it's all a secret. and is the point that the,
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these people like us live on the land and getting their information from somewhere else to where you're getting your information from to have this vision of the world that they have. where are they getting their information? if it's a new item or items and saw to me to oregon, but, you know, i've been all my life in these countries. i've seen so many was, i mean i have a different take on how's it all works? uh, you know. yeah. they always in these capitals and the thing that, you know, this is what does this but the like, i can't explain any other way for me. it's a mystery a little bit. i think it's, it's great fear that you're losing the losing out dominance. i mean, look at the nato. look at nato rethink next to are so important for us a, but if you're sitting in yeah, or in, in cane, you know, i south africa. oh and not in america. what do you see? you see a military lions of the ex colonial powers operating most of the lights. and you know, this of course is contacting the cons. stay on like this. yeah. but of course,
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joseph burrell, the foreign policy chief, said the rest of the world is a jungle compared to the god and of europe. and he's just a boy doesn't even know what's what younger means to me. as far as that may be, should be made happy if you have some force. he's being replaced by this estonian tie, a call us. who said that the important thing here is the end of the russian federation for the whole of russia to be broken up. yeah, i have the wording of it is, i am the guy. you know, i wanted to ask you some questions when it comes to you know, if you have such a resolution which say snow negotiations even we all have to go for a victory. and same time as mrs. kyle asked to present the european union in the fall and policy. i mean, oh do you think is going to talk to us? nobody. yeah, not strong enough to do it. it just will happen overall i have. i mean, trump is why the negotiate this china them is us 3. i completely use this as we
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behave use this, ask it is a for our cutting that as such a long political history, so many think as so many for lots of us that did come to a point been reduced, such as cindy's saying is this resolution. it's almost unbelievable for me. it is unbelievable. and you're going to try and speak in the european parliament about that? no, they didn't give me any why. so i made a video saying the angry on the what? oh no, i really did. you already did the describe it to you, this is all the things you know, you cannot be talk here and it just dominated this, this, you know, this parliament. and i think we have probably a big chance to talk to the public because of public changes and the public is very of war. the public is very of, of a decline. and in the social about being and the client on the purchasing power of the salaries and things like this from this is where we have to talk the of the after have a change if,
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if people more people vote for us because we are the only piece spot, the real piece, bobby, if you take it that he's right, right. making things boy in germany actually almost in all europe. i mean, you don't have something similar and in australia or in the netherlands to countries i know and the on fonts. i mean, this is a, i think is all of our take this a very important, very important, a new addition to the political scene. and i will do everything that we are successful because i think it's important for europe. and of course, you know, what will be important to other working classes of your, of what will the economic impact of people like kaya call us, seeking the end of russia, of a sholtes allowing a nuclear capable misfire, a long range missiles in germany, continuation of the war through ukraine, up until maybe the november elections anyway. we'll see can long term economic impact of all of these decisions that to be made over the past couple of years in
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european capital steps the impact already. i mean, do you have an almost decline into purchasing power off of small salaries? you know, those people sitting like me in the parliament, they won't feel that because we get enormous amount of money. so if you have inflation the uh, you know, the industry is declining a via d industries rising for germany. it psychologically very important aspect. and you know, the cutoff house off from the natural resources. so you can get from is you already cut themselves off from the markets going markets in asia. if you have an older traveler over the transatlantic, i mean this is not going to go well, i mean, look at this in the sections rush, i scroll by 3.6 percent and jimmy is going to somebody even find it falling into the crime. i mean, you have to realize what they're doing is not going to can not continue. it can not continue, it must break. and one day, while the rest of the world expands and as you say, west and you are a declines maybe into recession,
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maybe it's in slump. i don't know cook's cook's the books there in front. we've seen gains from the left and you all look better, show spotty and the offers. in germany, we've seen the rise of the a if the will it will it be to the rise of fascism in western europe. this economic decline will. will there be more progressive forces that will benefit from this economic decline caused by the war and ukraine to reset that onto this question x cost? i don't know. i don't thing that frustrates my battery in germany. it was never fascism. it wasn't the autonomy. and thing, i mean, neo nazi isn't i don't thing has, i know i don't think that will go that far, but people vote for policies which have more extreme solutions because they are so upset by the, by the establish politician. and that is going to continue, and i think what we hope from the b s v that'd be can harvest on this one from a policy which is maybe more on,
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on reasoning and social responsibility and things like this one more defending democracy. my issue today or a press release also about democracy in this problem. and so i think that if he can be successful and if he can know when also the local elections and industry driven states, that would be a very good site. and also for the rest of europe. that's a, is a market for pete bought poppies, which actually it pops more, likes autobahn mesh down. you said that the roster of violates of the un charter. and it's a reaction to a publication. they say obviously from the nato powers in the eastern ukraine. but now you seem to be saying that it is european powers that are breaking the spiritual be you in charge older, you enjoyed it by outlawing negotiations. a r i c. then you haven't read this is this thing probably, you know,
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i'm saying of course that in an amazing or another country is a brand, a breach of the, of the you and shot that. but you know, this is, and that'd be, you know, but that's it. you and try this much more because you're in job as 1st of all saying that you shouldn't negotiate. and you refuse to negotiate. to the run up to the more and b b, b by cause of the negotiation and peace, negotiation between the restaurant of ukraine. and also now you say, even in a document like this, a resolution that he will not negotiate or even say that one of my i think, probations that i think that this resolution is actually also a breach of the un charter. because in view and shot, the old member states agreed that they wanted to prevent want to limit the war by negotiating peace. and if you go ahead, have a resolution like this one. having a vicious me, it's a, a, a most defeating another country. and then same time be the same, you don't negotiate and then it's really not in line as you and child. so it's the
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child that is more complicated than just simply that the saying that blush out, violated to you and shot that is much more through it. and you are an assistant secretary general at the united nations. doesn't that hold any weight or power in the are being followed with your colleagues? yeah, i'm to new. yeah i, i, i will get more. i'll talk also to everybody. you know, i'm, i'm not, you know, i, but you know, i'm day that, you know, it's a started to be stopped on the 16th of july. so don't ask me how this is all going to happen. and the 1st thing was this resolution, which i saw from absolutely shocking shopping shopping. i also got not trucking because of rush out trucking because of the future of europe itself are more concerns about europe than about russia. what's going to happen to us if we, if he continues such policies, michael wanted to show them back. thank you. in our days like stroke and that's over the show, i'll continue condolences meanwhile to those very by u. k. u. s. u,
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