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street and say yes off to west everything. but that's the have a strategy behind it. i doubt it a much i think the, the gym government is completely overburdened by, by this war and being engaged in this one. i don't say he himself is a bomb longer, but he ends up all the time to say yes and at something in addition, now i probably know more about the yorba bonham as what happens here than i know it in germany. but um, but uh, i think germany is going to pay the price for, for this in the size of attitude. so we have to the wall of costs. we have to have a piece piece, negotiations and things like this on the comp. i continue this rumbling around that we will, that'd be have to be ready for war and the things i guess one of the things that we still when the war and things like that is completely unrealistic policy sizing. so when you're watching from brussel, even more than it was probably a year, a year ago when you're watching for brussels, boris, the story is the drum and the drum and the defense minister who is with johnny,
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the bridge counterpart of the other day, comparing food into hitler and, and does it tell me about boris victorious? actually, i mean, is good showed as deputy chief of stuff and the well well, what does he mean? i mean that alone, this avoiding israel to the hilt in a, in a village genocide in this region. i seen you, i'm the wrong person. you're honest. i haven't lived in germany. and since 1978, you know, it was always busy. you went outside, i've never come back. now i come on in the 1st time back. i think the, uh, i don't understand them and actually i, it's as you know, is a policies a pass to which they are going to lose. they are going to lose because it is something that will not be able to, they will not be able to maintain such a policy for a long time. i mean, you're saying that, but i don't know and we'll get back to the or be environment but yeah. the russian goodness marguerite, the tell imongary just of on yeah. and of i t u i t use general release to the
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world lead conversations, a gentleman offices discussing the use of taurus of missiles target in russia. what's the reaction in new york in palm and been alone in the bundle stag or in june? i mean, the use of fuzzy a minute cool. i didn't know whether you listen to it, whether it's just talking about targeting missiles in to russia. it's or yeah, of course it's somebody like, oh no. but uh, yeah, i mean, i mean that's the situation. i think if you haven't political lead, which is completely detached from, from reality reality in their own country reality around them. because i thing the, what happens in, in ukraine is not pretty sure. is it, you know, way which direction is going to go. and if you see the changes in the united states and things like this one, i think germany does something which is, is unexplainable for me. i just can't explain it. they always are connected. explain what happens here under your pin problem. it's, you're saying it's pretty obvious that a zalinski is going to lose the war, but that's not reflected in the newspapers you're getting on the last of all,
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i mean, the last of all, i mean this, this is a type of thing, you know, couldn't catch them to continue the war by people who, who don't have a son or daughter in the wall, who don't have any coverage child coming back. i mean, i've seen was, was asked and nothing here. roy about was, i've seen a lot of was in my life. there's nothing here really getting the engine this never every night and it and be still saying that he can continue this war and time have it we know against the restaurant. it will not happen. yeah, but i mean, the, the, by the ministration says, is now was to station long range nuclear capable missiles at ram steam, and i base, uh, thousands. i mean, they already host thousands of us soldiers, obviously on germany, german land. i mean, what do you think would be western europeans? i'm thinking of all these huge developments. i mean i, i mentioned britain earlier, they pledged 3000000000 pounds every yeah, way, more guns and ammunition. they're not listening to what you're saying about the hundreds of thousands of lives lost of men, women, and children and ukraine. you know, as a sort of,
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i feel that 1st of all of the stationing of these attacked results on jet them. territory would be, i think it's 2 years or some. i think it's actually a sign of weakness. it's not assigned a strengths. it's, you know, the, they feel they lose the war and they have not the strength of nato. they have for you to that, that all of this stuff like i know that he wants to have coffee in berlin on the and off and so on. i see what these basic you do try to defend why we have still have native because at the end of this war need to be in a big crisis. and i think it would be more prices if you have a next president. that's carbon truck. mr. trump, nato is in big trouble for it's future. and yet, you know, is this thing the defendants would be, have to go big strategies. i think it's all the sign of weakness is, of course, a dangerous one, but it's a sign of weakness. but you read the newspapers that come on your desk in brussels, there was an m e p and uh, what all of them will watch the tv, presumably,
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obviously television stations, newspapers, lots of them banned in western europe. what does it feel like they have your ideas in brussels knowing the in time media is presenting this as lensky will when, if very more weapons and more subsidies and more german tank sent to the front line . okay, so you just something about the european parliament because, you know, i'm here on the since what for days? i mean, it wasn't, it's it of course and stuff. the book, i was actually shocked and i've seen a lot of lost these things in my life, but i was shocked by the language used. and that's 51. the deputies out of $700.00 voted for the war resolution. i mean, it was nothing else on the board at least resolution in a what it is already in it. in the 3rd. yeah. in the said, yeah, usually you have and resolutions which sort of tried to find ways out,
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but the assessment absolutely nothing. it speaks about that we have to continue the want to ukraine when civil war against pressure. so i shall be defeated. it speaks about the special quote that all the russian politicians have to be present at the to it. it speaks about brush up having to pay for all the costs it speak on, especially it's a set of shopping. normally it goes to asians and they cut down on open. i mean, as you contact more lots of reality and touch strategy than just sort of resolution . because this resolution the, you basically have said good bye to participating in any solutions for your trade war. and this is a very dangerous thing because it's of, on europe, in territory with the biggest organization in europe entirely in territory is led by unrealistic the months they can not possibly possibly reach, especially not europe. look at the front this week and not just the week. and i mean who else is that for me that maybe mrs. maloney that you talk this would never
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do anything. i mean, we do it via the mocked anything that will never never happen. and in this, in the after tune, obvious of war is unbelievable. and i'm, yeah, i mean i going yes with the car doors and i see all these more rhetoric. i, i, i, i'm, i'm just flabbergasted. and i can't say, i mean i've seen a lot of was and i know how to develop and i know how the negotiations go. it was in quietness, but we don't even the pride take with you since we have nothing. you are p s. basic . do you think good bye to is solution on its own? come come thing that i mean, you can't be crazy. i've done this means that lensky is that by president. my very clear. i hope i'm about to accept the landscape. i presented you as a community looks i didn't, you know i, i compare this to the ronny rock boy, you know, a lot to do was us and it was a is a ceasefire. the language for you see in the parliament i think is more aggressive than what i've experienced in the wrong. it's just unbelievable. i mean, and i think if you have such a expressive language,
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it is usually people who don't have an idea of how to get out of something as well . they've heard of nuclear weapons, is always it by and by being more aggressive. but it, of course, the reality is what it is and in moss is a real thing. and the, and, and, and you won't change it because we've made that change of language. and so, you know, if you look at this one, i didn't do this many look into this, but we have a public opinion in europe. has that don't reflect public opinion anymore because this resolution, you know, we know that in the united states as basically say, i mean whatever you say about 5 and even then i think that basically said good bye to the small. i've seen the americans in industrial nest on the rock hawk creek easy davis draw off on something they felt they couldn't ring anymore. and, and of course we have the whole house. i mean, it's just also what global styles. i know it's not a good word, but i mean, nobody supports the europe is, is isolated what's europe? it's 5 percent of the population,
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maybe 5 in off to send and declining and be we still behaved when we listen to the language of business from the line, the behavior this, we are a great part of the world and, you know, and we decide sanctions everybody would shrink and say yes, as soon as we do what you want, it doesn't happen anymore. the world has changed to all these people. us live on the land. morales being replaced, i understand the foreign policy chief of the they may know, plan be, or contingency for. if washington decides, forget to lensky, it's over enough subsidy to take care of it. but the notice already, i mean, we know that the united states has withdrawn from this war and it, i mean, i may like if you have a trump there, and then these days, you know, be i do it early and i think he's right. he will do it and um, and he doesn't over our heads. and so the danger really, for europe is that we have an agreement on how to end the war in ukraine without
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any of all participation. and the result will be that we will have to pay the bill because it will be a very expensive end of or wherever you have collapsed ukraine, very likely. but if you have enough people fleeing still, there will be a lot of misery usually. you know, at the end of washing since there's not much worse and during the war which keeps things from altogether. i mean the ending of a was that was easy, a terrible thing and it could cost us billions. we don't have, i mean, the gym government already announced that going to something that they will next. yeah. off their contribution to the ukraine. i mean, what does this one? i mean, it's a bit tre of, you know, that ukraine will not become involved. the european union, you know, they will not become involved and they throw this this out. it's called as a question my view tend to people use it next to in the you are being a union building in these buildings with european union. i mean, do you think they are being brainwashed? they actually believe persian wants to invade mullin or do they,
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or are they being bribed somehow to look right? no, no, no, no, no. what is, why did they think, i mean, do they think coaching wants to invade, been in and brussels? i think number of people which icing a very serious, which i certainly believe that if you don't do you know something people have putting into us there. that's why these days people bought the 2 years, we have to be ready for war and is all the things that yeah, this i think a lot of the, i mean, i couldn't kind of, i mean i've been home outside in my life like i, i'm so strong that people, as i know say this, and it's a completely unrealistic thing. you know, the, what interest me most he, i want to i or the question i asked myself so often why is often highly educated people who sit in these parliament and all the rest of it. why does it take this position? they must see that, that what is different than what they present it is. and i have now only one onset to this one. and that is, and i, you know,
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i've left most of my life in this house. oh, what you call the number 7 countries. the realize that it's that we live in what shots call that size, even the only not the size. and then the human, you know, at the time of change must have change. the dominance of the western world, which is mostly a white glove, is coming to an end. the nice thing is, especially the middle classes realize that this ukraine, more if it ends for them badly image, it looks at the us. it is we also have long term impact on, on how they're seen in the list. like all of the shows i use michael 100 and without stop you there. more from gemini as news r a y going to connect alliance ibp and full when you and assistance equity general after this break the
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welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with for me you in the system security general and president jim and member of european parliament microphone to show them back a michael we were talking about the cognitive dissonance of your fellow. i mean piece in brussels. you know, it was only the other day that we had reports of 43 british special services as a s maybe s b, you killed by russia in odessa. then in germany,
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there's supposed to be this report on the north stream pipeline. we've had sy hersh who exposed to the us involvement in the and what did you make of jeremy refusing to really is north stream investigation results? and is that not a debate in the european parliament, the largest environmental catastrophe? manmade perhaps in history, in terms of methane emissions because of the node stream pipelines, applying energy to germany from russia. my are the few days i'm here, nothing is about it. and if you think if you want to protect environment green deal, i mean nothing is worse for the environment and the ross and the even these military operations probably produce more c o 2. but the kids have all our cost of them diesel. and no, there isn't, is no, it is also one sign of the nice thing. it's fee a i thing really it is fee. it essentially it's fee a to face reality. and they reality is that the world has changed. it has not
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changed because of the ukraine war, but it did create ukraine will accelerates the whole thing, you know. and then the bulk of its doctrine came in 92, you know, saying, you know, the united states as now the only superpower it has to have is the responsibility, blah, blah, blah. and to, to, to bring on up to the world. it's not anymore. i mean, the united states is economically, technologically, politically, not anymore. so, but maybe so, militarily, but the interesting thing is this to buy the old a strong military. they lose all the boss. and i know as quite the opposite, which i experience myself. yeah, i think the west isn't if they did a situation and what do you see in these elections, in the united states, between trump and, and buying an icing, a symptoms off of all the western world, which is actually losing out the losing. and the european union,
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as somebody from the line just doesn't want to realize that the need a different policy. you cannot become a superpower. see, she wants to, to have a huge state that you know where the ukraine and john john moved over and all the rest of the copy becomes part of his is such a huge paula. and we want now to invest the military and have all and military and things, i guess it won't happen. lucky. it wasn't happened. yeah, i mentioned, i mentioned 40 i, there's no, there's no resolution. i meant to say $43.00 bridges, special services. it killed or wounded, not killed, but it's all a secret. that is the point that the, these people like us of on the land of getting their information from somewhere else to where you're getting your information from to have this vision of the world that they have. where are they getting their information busy? no, i don't know, i, it sounds me the oregon but, you know, i've been all my life in these countries. i've seen so many was, i mean i have a different take on how that all works. you know. yeah. they always and these
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capitals of the thing that you know, this is what it is, but that like i can't explain any other way for me. it's a mystery a little bit. i think it's, it's great for you. yeah. that'd be losing the losing out dominance. i mean, look at the natal look at nato leasing next to so important for us a but if you're sitting in yeah, or in in cane, you know, i south africa. oh and not in america. what do you see? you see a military lines of the ex colonial towers. operating mostly lights. and you know, this of course is contacting the con, stay on like this. yeah. but of course, joseph burrell, the foreign policy chief, said the rest of the world is a jungle compared to the god and of europe. and he's just a boy doesn't even know what of what john domain is. the means far as that may be, should be made happy if you have some force. he's being replaced by this estonian guy a call us. who said that the important thing here is the end of the russian federation
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for the whole of russia to be broken up. yeah, i have the wording of it is, i am the guy. you know, i wanted to ask some questions when they, when it comes to, you know, if you have such a resolution which say no negotiation. so you're going to be all have to go for victory. and same time as is this kind as to present the european union in that phone policy. i mean, what do you think is going to talk to us? nobody. we are not strong enough to do it. it just will happen. overall i have, i mean, trump is a lot of negotiate this. china, them is us, we, i completely use this as we behave use this as it is a for our content that, that's such a long political history. so many think of so many philosophers that the come to a point been reduced such as any thing is this resolution? it's almost unbelievable for me. it is unbelievable. and you're going to try and speak and the european parliament about that. no,
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they didn't give me any why. so i made a video saying, i'm good, angry on the what? oh no, i really did. you already did the okay, so to describe it to you, this is all the things you know, you cannot the talk here and that it is dominated this, this, you know, this parliament. and i think we have probably a big a chance to talk to the public because of public changes in the public is very of war. the public is very of, of a decline. and in the social about being and the client on the purchasing part of the salaries and things like this one. this is where we have to talk the of the after have a change if, if people more people vote for us because we are the only piece spot, the real piece. bobby, if you take it that he's right, right. making things, boy, in germany actually, almost, and all europe, i mean, we don't have something similar and in australia or in the netherlands to countries i know. and the on france, i mean, this is a, i think, is all take this a very important, very important,
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a new addition to the political scene. and i will do everything that we are successful because i think it's important for europe. and of course, i know what will be important to other working classes of your, of what will be economic impact of people like kyra, call us seeking the end of russia, of a sholtes allowing a nuclear capable misfire, a long range missiles in germany, continuation of the war through ukraine, up until maybe the november elections anyway. we'll see can long term economic impact of all of these decisions are to be made over the past couple of years in european capital steps the impact already. i mean, do you have an almost decline in the purchasing power off of small salaries? you know, those people sitting like me in the parliament, they won't feel that because we get enormous amount of money. so if you have inflation via you know, the industry is declining the urea, d, industries rising for germany, it psychologically very important aspect. and you know,
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the cutoff house off from the natural resources. so you can get from is you already cut themselves off from the markets growing markets in asia. if you have knowledge of traveling over the transatlantic, i mean this is not going to go well, i mean, look at this in the sections, the restaurant, scroll by 3.6 percent and jimmy is going to somebody even find the following. in the decline, i mean, you have to realize what they're doing is not going to cannot continue. it cannot continue, it must break. and one day, while the rest of the world expands and as you say, west and your declines maybe into recession, maybe it's in slump. i don't know. the cook's cook's the books there in front. we've seen gains from the left and you all look uh better shows, bazzi and the others. in germany. we've seen the rise of the a if the will it will it be to the rise of fascism in western europe. this economic decline will. will there be more progressive forces that will benefit from
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this economic decline caused by the war and ukraine to reset that onto this question x cost? i don't know. i don't thing that frustrates my battery in germany was never frustrating. it wasn't natalia and thing. i mean, neo nazi isn't i don't thing has, i know, i don't think that will go that far, but people vote for policies which have more extreme solutions because they are so upset by the, by the stopped his policies now. and that is going to continue, and i think what we hope from the vs v that'd be can harvest on this one from a policy which is maybe more on, on reasoning and social responsibility and things like this one more defending democracy. my issue today uh and uh, press release also about democracy in this problem. and so i think that if we can be successful and if he can now we can also the local elections and industry gym and states that would be a very good site. and also for the rest of europe, that's
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a, is a market for p poppies which actually talk more like songs next. um you said that the roster violates of the un charter and it's a reaction to uh, from vacation. uh, they say obviously from the nato powers in the eastern ukraine. but now you seem to be saying that it is your opinion power. is that a breaking the spiritual? be you in charge all the you enjoyed it? by how cooling negotiations a r i c. then you haven't read this is the thing probably, you know, i'm, i'm saying of course, that in an amazing or another country is a brand, a breach of the, of the you and shot that. but you know this, and that'd be, you know, but that's it. you and try that as much more because you're in charge as 1st of all saying that they shouldn't negotiate. and they refuse to negotiate to the run up to the more and the b, b, y cause of the negotiation and peace,
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negotiation between the restaurant of ukraine. and also now you say, even in a document like this, a resolution that he will not negotiate or even say that one of my, i think probation that i thing that this resolution is actually also a breach of the you and trotter. because into you and shot the old member states agreed that they wanted to prevent more to limit the war by negotiating peace. and if you go ahead, have a resolution like this one having a vicious me, it's a, a, a most defeating another country. and then same time be the same, you don't negotiate and industry only not in line is that you and shot that started the job as more complicated than just simply that the saying that brush out violated. so you're in charge of this much more through it and you are an assistant secretary general at the united nations. doesn't that hold any weight or power in the are being following up with your colleagues or? yeah, i'm to new. yeah, i, i, i will get more. i talk also to everybody, you know,
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i'm, i'm not, you know, i, but you know, i'm day that, you know, it just started to be stopped on the 16th of july. so don't ask me how this is all going to happen. and the 1st thing last is resolution, which i saw from absolute destruction, shopping shopping. i also got not trucking because of rush out trucking because of the future of europe itself are more concerns about europe than about russia. what's going to happen to us if we, if it continues such policies, michael wanted to show them back. thank you. thank. okay, thanks for that. so for the show, i'll continue condolences. meanwhile to those very by u. k. you as you, i'm genocide here in west asia. i will be back with a brand new episode, one sided angel. then keep in touch, my role as social media of it, so expensive new country, and that to a channel going underground tv on rumble, they'll come to us new and old episodes on going underground si size the
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