of late and the history in the region, the hello and welcome to cross stuck on peter lavelle. here we discussed some real things. there was talk and maybe only talk you brain is interested in a negotiated into the conflict. what does drugs have to do with this? also, what a harris administration take a different position on the gaza genocide? to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, steven guides and bell rate. he is a research associates at build rates, institute of european studies, and in lisbon. we have alexander guerrero. he is an international legal analyst or a gentleman. prospect rolls in effect, that means he can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated. i start out with steve and, you know, it's interesting over the last i'd say 2 weeks. we've had a lot of different um,

noise being made, people can call it that we had about it can andre and void to p a. and so as he saying this more must come to an end, we had a big journal for abound doing being a real globetrotter going to give, going to moscow going to be using. and then to be son when he got back to europe. and then curiously, we have drums still say that he can end the war and the war before he is, you know, great if elected, we have precious a little information on that. and then we had some of the, like said, mike pompei o show up at the republican national convention, basically wanting to trail double down triple down while i triple down. completely at odds to what trump seemingly is said. but there is something going on here and i think it has to do with the american election, your thoughts exactly. it has to do with the american election,

but also with the american graphs strategy. because the americans cannot, they realized over uh, last 2 years that they can not lead to major wars or be behind the 2 major wars at the same time. so what we see with the possible trump return might be that they want to shut down the premium of the eastern european conflict for awhile and to complete the causal traits on nothing. yahoo has planned to conquer the middle east or to spread the war. uh so what is really important is the message that the napa was sent to the congress. it is also imposing most of that to a lot of colors and did not very come, but still have the have she had a very warm welcome after 10 months of, of, of peeling, but civilly goes and so militants. so uh, i think the trump and the west in general wants a stalemate in your brain,

which i don't think the directions are going to fall verdette. uh, so their whole game, i think in a way is based on uh, several completely false assumptions. they are behaving live role sheet brokers, assuming that surveys are going to happen for instance. assumption number one is that the russell was to negotiate. first of all, where i show does not have we've room to negotiate because after may 20th, it does not recognize the last key as a legitimate president. after the 28th of august, that on the parliament to great also won't be able to enjoy the rest of the body to negotiate with. so hoarding, i did a go see it with to, uh, why would they want to negotiate before the end of the go, the bills uh that, uh, the day itself. and so this is assumption number one that is based that it, or the one watts to the far from the racist thought that russia is going to

bile to the white gods from capitol hill and brussels and then to whatever they like. and please, so that is one thing. what we hear constantly from people in the west is that the, the current in flying of division is going to be the future border of 800 or sorry, the south korea kind of a supplement. where did they get this story from? so that is, there is one thing. uh, we will see what happens because i'm sure there's a lot of tension in into us, not maybe a about the growth strategy, but about how to do that because you have for american dudley. yeah, that means coordinated. yeah. russia, china, north korea and iran. and you have the american uh military as a potential. okay. can watch really things like delete this war. so i, i honestly don't though. what really funny, but one thing,

one thing is for sure is, is that the, the client state, let me throw this out. xander. now the client state ukraine sees the, the real possibility that there will be a change of power in, in the white house, at least, maybe not in the bureaucracy. and that they are, they want to hedge their bets. i mean they're, they're obviously see themselves in a very, very weak position. would you look at the news about the financial situation that it isn't giving enough coverage and the west me, ukraine is broke. i mean, in bad we broke and that there is no. um, you know, you can, you know, you're getting the, the interest from a russian ass that's, you know, 1300000000 here, 1400000000. that's not going to change their financial situation in new grace. but it's, it's really interesting to me, is it because of the potential change of administration? you have people that are saying this is biden's ward with wind it down and then you

have like people like my mike from day oh that, oh, this is really what we, we want to go back to a reagan foreign policy. there's a lot of different things going on at the same time. what are your thoughts exactly? so 1st let me and let me remember once again that to bring is not only broke financially is world politically even drastically is no longer a southern states. far as the some time ago, and at the present moment it is more than a failed state. it almost looks like somalia is the same style, but in europe. so it's not no more, no longer a math or all financially plus or shaped. it has nothing to do with it. it has at the present, only to do with the future of a country. and what country are we going to have in the matter up to 3 years? so what your brain are we going to have if any? so this shouldn't be the point to be discussed presently. then at the same time,

i think that we should focus on the very specific aspects of american politics. because as we all know, the president of the united states has limited powers. g bad. he realized a lot on the congress, and i believe that it was due to this that mike on bail came to public to give this guy the interview. started with the blood pressure pressure in donald trump. but at the same time, if we remember sam, some of the donald trump speech scenario last 6 to 7 months ago, she was defending and supporting the decision of a land lease to you break. no, he wants to put and then to this. but what kind of and this you want to put through, we know that he can approve. he can adopt several executive orders. but no more than that. you will need the support of the congress to make it best, any kind of plan or project for you bringing war presently, which i have to remember. it's a long term war, new brain, since 2014. so it's not the only concerning the rest yet. this plan must cover

at the same time, aspects for all the spring and resistance, which is presently no longer luckily active. but this way too strong, in order to evolve. gimme zalinski against the wall and making a police accept any kind of peace deal in the west. just stepped aside, leaving your brain alone. so no longer your brain has enough power to have a word to have a say on this conflict. so i don't think, i just think they've had this a say for a very long time. it, you know, stephen, but the, the, the variable or people like to say the 800 pound gorilla in the corner is quite visible. and, and people in the west, in policy makers ignore it, rushes already presented numerous times. it's a starting point for negotiations. no, no, it would be really the obviously the ukrainians are happy about him. it's will cut

their patrons in the west. they're not happy about it, but it is a starting point and that is a way this conflict can come to an end. but until up until the west recognizes the terms and conditions of starting negotiate next, this is up in the, this is denny day. go ahead steve. but for us, it doesn't have any incentive to believe that the west is going to stick to any word or any deal because they have missed one and these 2 and then the number to the girl by that. but i mean, every thing, all the are, all the body arsenal was out there. and uh, i mean starting with the deal that the, uh, the general go, which the son of the lost it for. it was with the, the western countries or the last it for less of by 4 hours. so i don't think the dresser is really motivated at this point where he's has a really huge leverage in the conflict. what i don't get is this

discrepancy between what the west wants and what it can do. what the collective data, let's say was that what do you happen to have kids can do. so maybe co um let's say, uh, change in washington from by then to from, from that across the republicans is to uh, to have a fresh start black and say in this ongoing global war i have said, yeah, did you meet with stephen? i, i think i agree with you in the fresh start. let me throw this alexandra. now the press start should be read, framing this conflict completely. and that we naming is pan european security architecture that, that's actually a base saving measure as well. if you think about, it's like how do we, okay, we can all disagree and how we got here, but we were at the end, we have an in game where everybody has the indivisibility of security. i know

that's a hard sell for western politicians because they don't even know what the word indivisible, in indivisibility of security means. but i think that is a starting point of alexandria. it shows me but this, please remember that we have the so called rules based order one or 2 about, according to western concepts and ideal of these means that whatever washington says, it must be followed by all other western european countries. so it shouldn't be an inability, it also shouldn't be to prevail, the brief people celebrating the quality. this is not only a customary, pretty simple and international law. it's also enshrined in the shop throughout the united nation. so therefore, i think that all this should be taken as an, as a starting point. but when we listen to the speech is of course live on that lie. and even during this week, suggesting gets you wants to harass them to sell into the,

to deliver all the money from russian assets to, to support your branyon military efforts. i don't think that we are getting any, any place like that in the, in the meantime. because they just want to pursue their just want to feed the war machine. and when do we, in the same time, listen to the democrats to democratic parties, the alternative to which allegedly should be kamala, 1st, she likes tourism and then she likes idea elegy, she's changing her opinion, depending on where the ball. but alexander, is that the perfect the vessel for the deep state? i mean, she's there waiting, edited all my goodness, the boy sheet ok with milk or is alright settlement. i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our to special events and we'll and stay with r t the

new hit or is on the line. you more interested in this split chain? you just changing the let us know last time jim will actually be able to show you the end of the was that you should be able to see it was a shame i see up with all my games with a see. yeah. this you should be able to move forward with your member said that was missing here on this quote. it was that it was that group number i need the list of documents. but the good thing is that it does require at least do you have a single episode of which was successful with them? no more comfortable this one, chest for chills. if the stump that's in

the water is part of one of the valuable postcard isn't the deepest view of us and that in the word part is it something deeper, more complex might be present. let's stop without collision. let's go out of as the welcome make across that time peter live out here we discuss some williams. all right, let's go back to steve. it's comfortable, harrison is the the big name and the news right now. um, uh,

i think that is really interesting how quickly everyone's forgotten, joe biden, that'll be something for the history books to discuss. okay. the reason why i wanted to talk about, you know, she made it easy. she met with the benjamin netanyahu. this really prime minister when he was on is a man american tour that was cut short. um and um, you know, she said that she will not remain silent, which she oh wow, really hit the bare with the bid sent, you know, a shock waves of around the eco system of those whose support israel and its genocidal conflict in gaza. but, you know, it's, it's really interesting to me is that, you know, virtue signaling isn't going to do the trick here. ok, i mean, so much of american politics is about that. but there are, there are a number of people and you know, it could be 234 percent of the electorate, but that could make the difference in an election. they're not on teams genocide. so kamala harris, as we mentioned, the 1st part of the program, you know,

lacking careers more lacking in knowledge. but if it's a isn't going to get to her, isn't gonna get her the votes that she needs. let's put it that way. go head to be exactly or her whole campaign looks to me mean judging by the 1st video to be seen, it looks like a big piano. coca cola company as it's, it's very core press. it's a, it's a, it's, it's all in purchasing link and then that would be the language that she uses. she said that she knows the type of guy, the trump is. i mean, what is that suppose to mean it is that he's really uh, is really interesting. i mean, because the democratic party has a big, i would say i be a logical problem and is going to do some soul searching. i think even after this election because a large portion of its especially young boulders are completely, i guess the, the surface of boards supporting it. i wouldn't say only he's real,

but specifically that the knack was policies which are quite harsh. and even betty guns would say, suicidal for these relative stakes. so uh, i think that her campaign and what would she do if, if she ever got elected, which i really doubt are 2 completely different things. and the very fact that uh, at the end of the day she met with the knack who is speaking volumes. so i think the, the main problem here for the americans is how to assert the dominant position that they are losing, that they are not having anymore and how to lead to, or uh, perhaps in the future. 3 major complex uh the same time. so what they are maybe want to do, i, i to be obviously this from the beginning is to pause one so that they could accelerate the, the other bile. so they'll know how is that possible?

because even if, let's say israel, i escalates with lab or no, uh, possibly with the ron and the other icons sees uh, added the american gallery comes uh, where is the, in the game to the ultimate uh, we even know solely looking at the numbers. uh, what is to come out of it and uh, i think that the, the, the answer to this question that doesn't have um, neither of the but that one se campbell, i think, you know, you had seen that it's really interesting. is it i agree with you, i mean, if there is no strategy here, there are a lot of tactics involved, but there's no strategy and that's why it's flailing. i'll, when we look at the kind of like the new grade and obviously the sample american backing of israel's genocide will campaign in gaza. oh, alexander, i mean, that's the fact that, that someone like kamala harris would say that, you know,

and she changes what she expresses in busy tube for what's happening to the palestinians. but that is actually an active cowardice because you know, you'll be the chief executive lead. i'd states as enormous power when it comes to it's supportive and individual country like israel, but she won't exercise it. okay. and it's very easy, even saying that she will not be silent, shows an admission a big will. she might talk about it, but policy isn't going to change this. so think we are that bottled this, you know, appear to be for one simple reason, is that kamala harris is part of the, by the ministration or the last 4 years, the have been built always supportive of israel along all these years. what has so then we change, besides the fact that now she needs to present to the public, the different speech. she must left forget that in united states, it's all about the donors. not for a gas with uncle joe by the door,

the dollars only they will take the whole don't mind. don't forget to buckle the news saying don't there is no longer support to buy than dollars are asked and you one buy them to step down. so it's all about any leads, and at the same time, forget national goals. we have to focus on the swing states, and presently kamala is losing beat time. all those falls in the spring state. so it comes up only to these elements. she needs to present to the probably a totally different speech. don't also forget that kamala is speaking popular among the for american billy communities. so she needs to bring something completely different because she knows she has been part of the problem. over the last 4 years, she supported blindly, all the solutions brought by the, by the restriction. she is divided in administration. so we can forget that this change of his speech. i believe that the press should put some pressure on her,

at least to ask her what kind of solution this to support. because coming to all the thing, i want you to like manner you're, you're here, you're thinking lights of lawyer. okay. you are okay. i guess the but the 5 already watch the media coverage here. all this is such a tongue bath. it's unbelievable. i said after the uh, the democratic cool against a bite. i just said buckle up and embrace spray impact. you're going to see the greatest make over in such a short amount of time in a, in history and we're seeing it are right now. okay, why can't you guys, i'd say it's remarkable how jo buying this has been disappeared. i mean, this is gone. and we have a new administration, but some income, but it's really amazing what they're doing. okay. but they have his alexander pointed out, you know, it's basically michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania and the gear he and then with in those states themselves, it's certainly the congressional districts. that's where she has

a huge problem. and that's what the make over challenge is all about. go ahead and see that exactly. i mean, the whole procedure of getting go from by the into harris was completely and then we'll grab it. and then we'll credit the procedure because previously buys didn't got the new lives or all of that. and then the unified, the, sorry, uh, support of the democratic party. and then all of a sudden, uh, they own get scandalized and realized after 4 years the, he is indeed they might dementia. and they realize that only during the debates. uh, but this probably was the worst, let's say, uh, that was the worst appearance of biden. in general. i mean, she had some really good moments before the debate. and it seems all the time that they are cuz they were coordinated indeed efforts to, to get came off of the picture and put harris, which um, i mean,

we can bill to have and try to figure out the several z or is why is that? and whether there is a new consensus about the, the trump $2.00. uh that should uh, you know, make this fresh starts uh, when with the, with the complex may be, i tried to appease their uh, shows, uh, and i tried to, but then there's also on the 2nd fault both as i'm trying to. and with that is that russia, if it's samples or whatever piece the was the well was i look for, it will not help your on russia has already signed. and he's already coordinated in the files where they're brought with syria, with north korea, which side uh with the in the potentially uh, audi, stone and many other players in the me. but we only use describing, you know,

what you're describing. and you know, i talked about this on this program before, is a, we've been told that we were on the, on the verge of a 3rd world war, i would posit to both of you were already in the 3rd world war. exactly. tell me very started. yeah. exactly, we are and does, there were more. and then the, the, the only question is how to frame it, how to sell it. and what was good about trump is that he, he, he was always a good salesman. so why don't he's talking points is that if i, when i will stop the 3rd world war, what he's saying is i will settle a deal with russia and focus on other buyers. because the major problems from economy to the global security are not going to be settled with one piece deal. i think that the best well the right cuz i can't achieve at this moment, but i don't think they have the rationale or the this whole powerhouse wants to has

any incentive to do that is to move to the historical example of the call sir, to break powers of game off, there's any pulley on boards, but unfortunately, i don't see niger aside in the american olives, they said political heart power spectral routing for infancy. stephen, you, you know, that's one of the major ongoing motifs of this program is having rationality and be because we'll be with global solve understands geo politics. the, the west is a pure a t test and that's why it doesn't work. alexander stephen is absolutely right. it's, i mean, you know, i don't want to be try to anything, but we, can, we look for a win win here. no, the west will not allow that. they will not be good for ideological reasons. alexander, personal, if they want to collapse of pressure and off all the blow up that's present play is

on the same side as russia. they have a mentality of funding to which they have to prevail. they want to double think of pollution from russia, and it's spell eyes as simple as this. they don't want to leave the in the peacefully, the peaceful way along with russia and all other countries, they want to prevail. they want to impose their ideals, or they want to impose or principles that sadly is as simple as simple as this they, they don't know how to lead along with any other different spaces along with other cultures. they don't know how to do it. that's why they are so allergic to the wording black at the blue, realistic world also to a model mindful arity is what they actually they do support, they will be able to in closing here, america 1st means whatever you want it to mean in the united states. map for most people means mortgage ebony, gentleman that's all the time we have bought a thing,

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