the, the, [000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the welcome to worlds apart from canceled culture to be canceling of culture. the western boy called on other things russian has led to paralysis so far to speak, exchangers, further amplifying this schism created by a diplomatic and im,

also to and economic sanctions. have given the music or dance have always been able to permit language and ideological barriers on the indeed powerful influence tools to be controlled or if needs be visualized. we'll discuss that. i'm now enjoyed by your impression of a russian conductor and a world renowned by list your deputy mr. boss smith. thank you for finding the time . thank you for having me. of over the past couple of years, much has been sad about council culture, especially the down to cancel a high russian culture in the west side in restaurant this is often dismissed as clumsy and ridiculous, but i'm sure you will agree that culture, especially music, has the power to directly influence the human. so when you force on a subconscious part as well as that conscious one is therefore an effective tool of leverage re. so my question is, is this bound on russian culture really? so irrational is

a pretty open that our cisco front door. yep. we're viewed in terms of feel certain was a compass, that's good musicians. still play phone brushing is like most a russian place it back to the states if that was still been staged. if that was so close, whether it was high or the can not be any cancellation, and those will have to cancel something. i don't want to insult anybody, but what they've done is stupid. there's simply more on some stuff because im cancelling russian music minutes cancelling a great pause like humans. so in general, the new movie. no, it doesn't matter what nationality. you all whole where you live at this deal and it's easy to see why they did it for political politicians. some politicians are for smaller people with a lots of so let it taste for music. while others, new movies have no such taste of sydney, but i focused on hating russia to me and that is going to end up in the repaired them to go all the way. yes,

i think it's stupid. no one because of. so do you think um, cuz it's plain stupidity really or do you believe this some motive the company may like limiting access to russian performers because they may be sold with lane some rushing musical, but access to russian performers is severely limited in the was just what's the point here from the present because right, you're watching the most uncomfortable. those are lots of russian musicians. i don't use that. i have been living abroad for long to understand is do you see if we are still the educated and told here in russia you got the most the 0 to. and i think that listeners who can still understand the true spirit of russian music. they move the yes, the glass until recently the segment of russian culture and most popular in the west. what hi, culture like music belay, or foreign arts. and such things usually require a certain depth where they usually mcgee,

or are they more towards not just give intelligence when you pull, but people with a great depth of perception. do you think that this kind of help with a chromecast disability to distinguish between defined new answers of meaning is something that's still a relevant in the world today? because we've, i think, as long as we'll leave, the subtle feelings will remain relevant and get the because when we don't know, quote unquote transition to a i the most, then we can meet again and discuss this because as long, however, as our intelligence is human, no thoughts official, zullie, as long as we are living people to can yesterday, and it is visit that some will remain relevant emotions. because see as low as the complex structures of our souls varies, a face on our minds to be as we may of this connection, was it come to be talking about daughters and musicians?

a, is that sound that is the connection between the rational approach really then this is a logical one most welcome. one way your brain controls your hand movements, for instance, on that to of war act isn't seniors, intonation, plastic. so something that's far away from what's a i can do the seats east coast at the or do you mentioned a i, which is a perfect segue to my next question can was my person can be taught the right way, but i just think it's not what ours are across to propaganda is about teaching people to think in a certain way. do you think it's possible to teach people the right way to feel is the one that if we teach everyone the right way to fields, took them with sudden buds. and of course, the major leap towards artificial intelligence investment for us on the contrary to each person. phase 2 on the sum, total total phase of hers unique characteristics where they were born,

how they were raised, what these cookies experienced in their childhood. got so little of what joy's or sad moments they experienced that a change and it will be made of this, that health with the civil. it was good understanding of what's good and what's bad . of the 1st that the quote what the mom and dad, i'm told them with the mom of me. but my mom for example, i'm trying to figure out the most. i was interested in this too moody but, but it's the most difficult thing. anybody ever dealt with since i probably didn't show a particular interest in anything she movie but so yeah, but she kept trying different things with me. so i like brain thing. sports does it by the way, are used to defense things get into. yeah, that was a promising young sensor. know the so at the moment, because then someone told my mom that sensing was bad for my residence because they lose the flexibility. they need to play the violin to manipulate the bo. so my mom made me stop,

go into the fence and breakfast more did spc while i just remembered that my childhood music teacher still teaches in odessa to be at. and that was her last name is natal. i'm a concerned with the need for she doesn't go to the conservatory anymore. she has students come to her place the cord. she's quite old, as you can imagine, most of the music and all that music school is named up. so the crates deals are spelled out. ski peaks my 1st parts of the russian violence coal deal, which in turn begins as influenced many legendary violinists in the west, in the united states and on other countries. and so what do you think when people still remember that today with them, the cross pollination between cultures because it's hard to deny that russian culture has influenced world culture. and yet we see what's going on here for most of us, but it was, that's a great question. google's because if you cancel the russian culture that i'm interested, oh, you must and cancel it,

influence as well. and that is there still put it in that would mean suspending and was humans halting cultural development would go to computers and that's a really good question. the other one is the, i believe that even the power of the russian music's coal ski at the more than it's louise and inclusive this mentality to tears of trinity to him, which was the advantage of the russian school was musical thinking. it was a kind of name was the that's what it is and faith. and that's what they just saw, a tradition that has been handed down by some great musicians by shore. and even nikki, i've seen a great artist, is not just someone who has a great to click on this to pick, but is always the unique personality. now an innovator and a maverick, a few world introduction. see if there's room. i have actually heard the saying that a great artist is an instrument with and without the inspiration plays on e and your to real risk of football season roof of that one that you'll see. but you were born into a family that was in physical at all. i'm a,

are you just mentioned, go to your mother trying to figure out what your talent and your calling for us. so what would be your advice to our viewers? so maybe not musicians on how to still drink from that spring ovens duration to feel fully alive at 70. and we'd be able to shift to 1st of which, you know, the, the quick me and there are many documents by which i mean records. so you would need the cheapest, they were talking about the micro chips, new just to date will cities no video records for? sure. absolutely. i don't think that's someone who has no connection to music. a good good. we'll just go ahead and buy a record cooling and bridge based on the performance by a legendary musician that so that's not the way quickly. so what's my advice,

be wise mom to have them for dad or the public? yeah, html, because or should have told you about this on our ski school in odessa, which was still there. so that was like you said good for those. i don't need tell them to children need talented months went through and of course, i mean, my parents were not musicians. i'm going to have not go, but my mom had a great to hear from us like she took some piano lessons when she was young. and i asked her why she had given them up with and she said she didn't have enough patients for a long practice sessions. up of upstairs who was the nurse for my dad, really throwing it to the work to me is that a tronics? he never moved across and that he had a great voice when you're as well as soon as it turned out, i had some musical ability. when you have this good to do, please, my grand admittedly sent over a piano because a kids learning music that the domain you called living at home without a piano, a pop up and my dad took a tie. this work, of course, things must still tell me this is up to coming home from work because he learns how

to play something yet. let's go. so that would accompany him on the piano playing by ear to one. so you need tell him to the parents once the children to live interesting lives. see this movie when that changes to my 1st question was about the attempts to cancel a russian culture. and that's where prompted by the crisis in ukraine, russian discipline. and as far as i know you spent your childhood in western ukraine and your parents and young grandfather are buried there. if i'm not mistaken with a strong and now you're banned from entering ukraine. well, i don't know. i never tried to. well, there are immediate reports saying that you've been bound for monitoring. what's your personal take on it? one person i heard you say in your interviews that you aren't affected, monitored by counsel tours in the west. but what about, you know, i don't see them as canceled. i see them as postponed. the dentist, i guess they might end up being postponed for decades. issue some more on top of that, i have the goals that i'm post my personal sanctions. i don't want to name particular cities or countries,

no more to the vehicle. there are some places where i could go with a concert, 50 movies. i just don't want to make a trip with them, which i don't want to do. you have to frontier because those people who like me to come and perform there, but they really haven't done much perhaps to influence their local governments. that that was the way to cancel this whole council culture of the thing. it's a nice thing and if i may get back to my question about ukraine, is it's important to you to be able to go there and visit your parents graves or in that way to, you know, i'm still waiting until this whole situation that has to come to its natural resolution effects and once it does, i will surely go there, but if it continues for too long, i'll have the grades moved to moscow. i have all the means to do it. a master. we have to take a very short break now, but we will do back in just

a few moments. stay tuned. the the, the state of the continental wasik was suddenly and, and said rough with the rest of the world. we're going to relate to the wind in terms of donations. all his sons of trey, africa, must define what she wants. politically, africa must define us of talked to africa must define ourselves critically.

the cause of the guys no choice, but to move forward. forward pushing with the the welcome back to wells appointments with you, the bush math russian conductor and a world renowned violence unit. but i'm issue with mr. bossman machine. i was wanting to ask you a few more questions about your brain, but not political ones. since you spent your childhood years involve, it's the city that store a large extent responsible for the present day and for goodness to attitude towards russia. and this is something really hard to understand because the ukranian socialist republic was getting more of financial support from the central government in the us ceasar than any other grant staff. thank you. craniums held officers of power. nikita khrushchev transferred crimea to ukraine, across the square. do you think this profound dislike for all things russians comes

from? because it's different. it just starts in 2014. it's been building up for many years, even decades. you know, 1st of all, i was born involved. i was born in north stolen, don't you have 5 when you moved in thought strange. and when i turned 5, i see with google has an incredibly beautiful city to and they have great music school in traditions at the conservatory. the latest is the way you've probably heard of the golden ring, so it includes lots of work. there's bloomberg that's involved now. and also tristan, i think, and girl, it's a total of 5 cities. and all world famous musicians would visit the conservatories and these, it's a significant, several times a year to give all 3 now called master classes. must of course, you know, most of them told such classes, centuries ago, some of the famous multiple. but either his father always on one of them. so what

we both had to offer in terms of music education was superb. anastasia, it was b as a full and its own traditions. you know, is this something like poland new york, or is it like old stray? although of course has been influenced by austria hungry. but i do remember from my childhood years that they had a bad attitude towards kids, and that was because in the volts opinion gave, did not post up any serious fights against moscow. the listening in this email school voice gave was well integrated into the us a song. well, of all of the screen, you know, one german troops sense of the sits agency and they make no resistance for most quite the contrary. the local people, welcome to them because they, it's a push to solve them as liberators. go. what types of labor i choose from the soviet? so far as a is my children. they had this kind of sleep. let's say, ro, western i'm thinking. so from the various talking with joe to when i was attending the music school, there was a class for russian speaking children with but everyone else smoke ukrainian as we

can. we also had ukrainian classes at school, but we all have our own way of thinking and speaking, even in russia, a lot of places have their own sub dialects, traditions thing, but it doesn't involve any sort of hostile attitude towards their own neighbors. yes, because the ukrainians williams, i think, is simply to be russian. but i'm sorry if this may sound improper in today's atmosphere. i think they want to be the 1st with this to be number one, number 2 families. and that's all there is to which to me, but we have the same people, how many families out there are like this. russian husband, ukrainian wife, vice versa. and they've got the children which is full of the overall. i think it's a very complicated process that's happening today. yeah, yes, there's, there's, and it's that cannot make an issue. but you move the cabinets, which explains why this bubble finally burst. but the bubble has always been there

. so you sent that involve russians were it shall we say not always treated in a friendly way, but in salzburg as well, which also mentioned thinks might be moving in the same direction to the corner. i wanted to mention solid support because it was there that you had a chance to play mozart's own instrument. and yes, you were given that owner as someone from a unique contribution to the history of music stuff improving. dr. viola can also be a sallow instrument that or the 1990, if i'm not mistaken. do you think a concert like that would be possible today that the both on your part and on the part of austria, who was more anything is possible the cause and you told me that there was a time, i don't remember the years. exactly. you're going to happen when the relations between the soviet union and the united states were incredibly tense. i mean, if you ever do it, and i believe i was a 1st year student at the conservatory at that time, june gotten a gift card. it was also then would invite legendary soviet musicians for years now

. so use new, you mean i know and middle dealers and loan and cogan would go there and some of the younger ones too much think it was the bush and even though no one else could perform abroad. but that was done exclusively conduct the whole, the thinking that's possible, a contract, just the woods. and that is why i say everything is possible. even today, the question is whether it's necessary, what are the person himself wants to go past for the concert in salzburg? yes, it was fortunate to be the 1st person in more than 200 years to be given that opportunity to hold mozart's viola in my hands to play it between this and the wonderful coincidence. but the only ways the old turned out to be a brother of my own instrument, they were both made by the same viola crossman to about 3 years about. i don't remember which is older, isn't one. if you were offered the same opportunity today, would you take it for personal reasons or perhaps for the sake of cultural

diplomacy, diploma may fewer a gallery more alive know then they were offered. so let's go to moss, what but he did most the silver ones. i've done so many that isn't isn't a good thing, is that the new school? well, i know i am may be paying the mode is here, no budget garden is my namesake of troll square. all sorts of like a garden at heart, you know, will want to be champions, is vin number one to in sports and music. and all with who knows at the office told here 9 years ago when we did get that, we came up with a competition for young composer some place for you. so we've received $69.00 application so far doing it. and one of the winners, by the way, it was a crate in there were still though, is it safe for him to go back home? no one someone was. so i think isn't most co at the moment, but he still has a great in passport. you never changed it. i haven't met him personally, but everyone spoke very highly of him. i think you on the 2nd prize,

so i could be wrong. we uh, you always wear your pendant with saint george and son. george is revered by the russian orthodox tradition. as the patronizing of the russian army, although he defeated the dragon, she died in march or his death sitting here for refusing to accounts his fav in favor of the roman gods. at least according to the christian tradition. i wouldn't be the one to drop barrels here, but in some way it seems to me that russia is now also fighting for its phase for its cultural and historical legacy. petty as well as for the right to choose its own cloth. but that's what i think, i am wondering why you mean your, what is your view on this is how do you see the present a conflict in this kind of spiritual context. but the thing is made just please don't laugh humans, cuz so i'm gonna go,

i'd say that they couldn't simply muffin with a wave, a magic wand if blooded my puts in where the people to president of europe total of europe. but please don't scare of yours ended of america, and then the world's most, it only goes as p actually. and it's he personifies the good. the thing is, today's conflict is also valid. evil, the fighting evil. it's about the good thing. yep. yep. and the good as we see is of course so, so it's good. and i certainly understand a while america wants to rule, viewable, this opportunity is the state. and let's make it paid twice the price and less blue or even more north of. so if the field, but all this about the market is to do, and if there are also people everywhere is good, they've got governors in every district and lots of the best messages. and no president is doing an excellent job managing them all. i mean, it wouldn't make much of a difference if you go to manage from germany. they totally spain and so on. and users and they were very complimentary about him at the very beginning because no

one has a president like this. no one. i think president clinton has no ambitions to forward you over a period. well, i will ask him to be, well, i think it's probably, i think he'll probably say no even to you, but he'll have a good laugh. it's got a terrific sense of humor, but it's a serious question. and you was a person distinguished with multiple international awards, including a grammy, a very one acquaintance with western culture and it's mentality. so why do you think it's so hard for western europe and for the west in general to accept the russia as it is? and if not in terms of the bar at the sharp and cooperation that i'm placed in terms of acknowledging that were equally valuable. but we have the right to be the way we are going to work with. why do i think they think that helps? yeah, i should probably ask them yes it does. it does. you know it to you? if you ask me,

we have to come up with solar. i can give is my opinion of them to the police, for example. i like the french wine or even cold cruising doesn't mean that those are excellent to tell you. and i like to tell in wine and food, you know, the wine is amazing and i'm willing to learn it to their food is very good and more natural than in front of you. i like to tell in session, in tokyo, when you are writing and the elevator you just when you said jacobs key on the way down. despite the facts much on that the japan is, it's now not very friendly to russia and then what does it for? they simply did not reset the settings. yep. hold on. so who wrote this music? gang has no icons say, but they like it's a lot just seem to kind of like shopping to do anything when they loved piano music . so what did i think about us? they probably think of the kremlin stones that would cripple drink vodka here, attempts to be what else. sure. and they also think that trasha represents the

opposite of freedom that kind of fits russia is overall, the regressive backward nation with no freedoms. and so i wanted to ask you as a person representing the culture edits highest little was more kim hi, culture exist without freedom. and what is freedom in the context of russian culture fullness full freedom that combines with a lack of taste produces and r k. i think the and that's folder, and if a person has a good taste and that's something everyone must hone and improve throughout their lives and you'll see everywhere at the resume, difficulties doing, even as getting water in and having taste means you have certain reasonable limits in your freedom. yeah, and that's and that's what makes freedom different from on a key. i believe russia has more freedom of speech. let's do. of course you can cut this out. so yeah, but as far as i understand, we have more freedom now than germany. we need this. no, no, this is because of all the festivals numbers we, unless they still invite the foreigners from other countries to see if they're

willing to come meet, that may have problems upon their return home. so someone when already days, so slow and perhaps more last questions the weather as we see now this attempt to cancel culture is no longer applied to russian culture only. but for instance, theodore crenza is, who is greeks, is guessing his participation in concerts canceled mainly for the initiative of ukrainian musicians on the various pretext. kimberly, and then some one thing to think this process can eventually result in what kind of resolution can we expect? a 3 of them, i think was the best answer to your question moist lou tubes that will be if i tell you a story of what happened to me in salzburg, so that's and that was sometime before the great in conflict. but after to assess thing, woods and so probably may have had a concert scheduled with the local, which most i'll tell you on august 12th, the performance went very well. so there was

a left only work to play one of them tributes symphonies. as the 2nd act, the young between public was very welcoming. were a huge success scope, it's sending and then one person went up to the stage and stood in front of it with a slogan. i don't know what it said, but he was shouting something very loudly and the audience tried to boot him into silence. like, why short space? no. was it come to the musicians, the orchestra that the, that goes in the model because try it was the local orchestra loop of you had been working so hard for a week to perform. i'm under my guidance use in way chief to success. it was great to him to put the old in sort of get to closing. and so i came out on stage again. the man kept standing there with his slogan, shouting via, but i see, i think it was about cry mia. and he was probably asking me why i support this in, but i never even noticed that. so i remember going to the beaches of tried me. i was a kid with my mom, the of them was you, but i to that i'm what i never had invitations to perform a concert and cried me

a. this is and i started guessing, invitations to phone the only up to cry me. i joined rush through the room and that's when i realized that was all that time for me. it wasn't russian. it wasn't mine as well with the. yeah, but do more, less than so my answer to you is actually i sold some cars. what should i do? came on to the stage for the aides time. seemed for new so but then i picks up my music sheets. i'm sure. but symphony though and put them over my head up with you to the audience, stood up there was told them on the close and the police took that amount of weight . it was the only thing that can save us is what lifts your soul and makes it bigger. and that's classical music 1st and foremost series and speaking again, which in the present person there's a big fan of classical music. it listens to it on the plane. boom was, is so new takes piano lessons and really wants to play better and that's where i think i know they did it and i've heard and play myself. can you get a sense? i'm sure i have these phones. make him any more popular in the west,

but in any case, the says here is about all the letters in the west. maybe the 12 mattresses are countries. unity i thank you very much for speaking to us. thank you. thank you for watching hope this here again on once a part of the, [000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the,

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