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hello, welcome to wells, a part from canceled culture to the counseling of culture. the western boy called on all things russian has left to paralysis, so far as to stick exchangers, further amplifying this schism created by a diplomatic and the most that you and economic sanctions have given the music or dance have always been able to permit language and ideological barriers on the indeed powerful influence tools to be controlled or if needs be visualized. we'll discuss that. i'm now enjoying by university, have a russian conductor and a world renowned by list your deputy mr. boss smith. thank you for finding the time . thank you for having me of over the past couple of years, what has been said about council culture, especially the down to cancel a high russian culture in the west end of the 10th and restaurant this is often dismissed as clumsy and ridiculous. but i'm sure you will agree that culture, especially music, has the power to directly influence the human soul. so in your thoughts on
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a subconscious part, as well as the conscious one is therefore and effectively to of leverage re. so my question is, is this bound on russian culture really? so irrational is a pretty open that r c score 1st on. yep. we're viewed in terms of feel certain mostly compass. that's good musicians. still play phone. brushing is like most russian plays exactly status if that was still been staged at them. that was so curious whether it was high on the can not be any cancellation and those who have to cancel something. i don't want to insult anybody, but what they've done is stupid. there's simply more on that because i'm canceling . russian music means cancel in a great pause when we look human. so in general, the sheer, i don't really know, it doesn't matter what nationality you are, where you live at this deal. it is easy to see why they did it very easy because
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our politicians, some politicians are for smaller people with and lots of. so let it taste from music. while others, new animals have no such taste of sydney, but i focused on hating russia. maybe there's end up or repaired them to go all the way. yes, i think it's stupid. no, because of. so do you think um, cuz it's plain stupidity really or do you believe this some motive the company may like limiting access to russian performers because they may be stowed with lane some rushing musical, but access to russian performers is severely limited in the was tell from the finance on those i present because i have to watch them. logan wasn't comfortable and those are lots of russian musicians. i don't use that. i have been living abroad for loan to understand is the see if we still the educated and told here in russia the other lives, the 0 to minute. i think that listeners who can still understand the true spirit or russian music schools use the glass until recently the segment of russian culture
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and most popular in the west was high culture like music, belay, or fine arts. and such things usually require a certain depth where they usually much easier to implement towards not just give intelligence when you pulled by people with a great depth of perception. do you think the best kind of help with the chromecast disability to distinguish between defined new answers of meaning is something that's still a relevant in the world today? because we've, i think, as long as we leave the settled feelings will remain relevant to them. because when we know, quote unquote transition to a i the the most, then we can meet again and discuss this most book a as long. however, as our intelligence is human, as a result of the official zullie, as long as we are living people to can, yesterday, with this visit,
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as will remain relevant emotions. because see as low as the complex structures of our souls, we had a face on our minds to be as we may of this connection was a come to be talking about the authors and musicians. a is that sound? that is the connection between the rational approach feel like then this is a logical one, was the welcome on where your brain controls your hand movements. for instance, the last 2 of were actors and seniors, intonations in plastic. so something that's far away from what's a i can do is easiest, was the what you mentioned a i, which is a perfect segue to my next question can was, my person can be taught the right way. i just think it's not what ours are across to propaganda is about teaching people to think in a certain way. do you think it's possible to teach people the right way to feel this thing when the life we teach everyone the right way to fields,
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took them with sudden woods and of course may be the major leap towards artificial intelligence. impressive. impose on the contrast between each person, phase 2 on the sum total of his or her unique characteristics where they were born, how they were raised, what these cookies experienced in their childhood. got so little of what joy's or sad moments, the experience of change and it will be made of this that health, which is the voice of us. good understanding of what's good and what's bad. so the 1st of the clue what the mom and dad, i'm told them with the mom of me. but my mom for example, i'm trying to figure out the most. i was interested in this too moody but, but it's, i'm a personal thing. anybody in the sense i probably didn't show a particular interest in anything she movie but so yeah, but she kept trying different things with me. so like brain thing, sports does it by the way, are used to defense things get into it. that was
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a promising young sensor. no. the so to me i missed cuz then someone told my mom that sensing was bad for my races because they lose the flexibility. they need to play the violin to manipulate the bo. so my mom made me stop, go into the fence and breakfast more did spc while i just remembered that my childhood music teacher still teaches in odessa to be at. and that was her last name is natal. i'm a concerned with the need for she doesn't go to the conservatory anymore. she has students come to her place. that would, she's quite old. as you can imagine, most of the music and all that music school is named up. so the crate field are start asking if it's my 1st parts of the russian violence coal deal, which in turn in the as influenced many legendary violinists in the west, in the united states and on other countries. and simply do you think when people still remember that today with them, the cross pollination between culture is that because it's hard to deny that
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russian culture has influenced world culture. and yet we see what's going on here also for us. but it was, that's a great question, google's because if you cancel the russian culture the next that all you must and cancel it, influence as well. and that is there still put it in? that would mean suspending was you means holding cultural development would go to computers and that's a really good question to switch of the most. uh, i believe that even the power of the russian music's coal ski. at the best of more than it's always mentality, the mentality to tears of trinity to him wishes to the advantage of the russian school was musical thinking. it was a kind of name was the that's what it is that they've been, that's what they just saw. a tradition that has been handed down by some great musicians by shore. and even nikki, i think a great artist is not just someone who has a great to click on this to put is always a new personality, not an innovator, and
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a maverick, a few world introduction. see if there is room. i have actually heard the saying that a great artist is an instrument with and without the inspiration plays on you and your career football season roof of that one. and i chose to, but you were born into a family that was in physical, a tall. i'm a, a you just mentioned got to your mother trying to figure out what your talent and your calling word press. so what would be your advice to all of yours? so maybe not musicians on how to still drink from that spring of inspiration to feel fully alive at 70 and beautiful. so she has to 1st of which, you know, the or the good news. there are many those documents by which i mean records. so you would need the cheaper they were talking about the micro chips new yesterday little cities. no video records for sure. absolutely. i don't think that someone
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who has no connection to me is like a good good people. just go ahead and buy a records that going to be ways of a performance by a legendary musician who's a company. so that's not the way quickly. so what's my advice would be wise mom, give them full. that's cool. if up, yeah, that's because i was, i told you about this on our ski school in odessa, which was still there still. and so that was like you said, good for those. i don't need tell them to children. i need to tell them to the months went through and of course, i mean my parents for an organization something that's not good, but my mom had a great to hear from you as like, she took some piano lessons when she was young and i asked her why she had given them up with and she said she didn't have enough patients for a long practice sessions proper, which is who, who didn't ask for me. my dad lives throwing it to the work to me is that a tronics, you know, and it will be particularly that he had a great voice when you're so as soon as it turned out, i had some musical ability. when you have this good to do, please,
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my grand admittedly sent over a piano because a kids learn music with the domain. it's called living at home without the piano up up, up in my dad, so tired this work, of course finished. but still tell me, this is up to coming home from work to be learn how to play something yet. let's go . and i would accompany him on the piano playing by ear to one. so you need tell them to the parents who wants the children to live interesting lives in this movie . when that's what is the my 1st question was about the attempts to cancel a russian culture that's were prompted by the crisis in ukraine, russian discipline. and as far as i know you spent your childhood in western ukraine and your parents and grandfather are buried up there if i'm not as they can with a strong and now you're bound from entering ukraine. well, i don't know, i never tried to, well, there are media reports saying that you've been bound for mentoring. what's your personal take on it? i heard you say in your interviews that you aren't affected, monitored by canceled tours in the west. but what about into i don't see them as
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canceled. i see them as postponed. good enough. i guess they might end up being postponed for decades. issue some more on top of that, i have the goals that i'm post my personal functions. i don't want to name particular search hazel countries. no, i'm going to do that because there are some places where i could go with a concert, 50 movie. i just don't want to make a trip with him, which i don't want to do. you have to sit down because those people who would like me to come and perform there. but i really haven't done much perhaps to influence their local governments. that that was the were to cancel this whole council culture thing certification. and if i may get back to my question about ukraine, is it important to you to be able to go there and visit your parents grades or in that way to, you know, i'm still waiting until this whole situation that has to come to its natural
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resolution effects and once it does, i will surely go there, but if it continues for too long, i'll have the grades moved to moscow. i have all the means to do it. a master, we have to take a very short break now, but we will be back in just a few moments. stay tuned. the the, the,
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[000:00:00;00] the the welcome back to wells appointments with you, a bunch of map russian conductor and a world renowned violence unit. i promised you mr. bossman machine. i was wanting to ask you a few more questions about your brain, but not political ones since you spend to your childhood years involve. it's the safety that store allergic stones responsible for the present day and for goodness to attitude towards russia. because this is something really hard to understand
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because the ukrainian socialist republic was getting more of financial support from the central government in the us ceasar than any other going south. thank you. craniums held officers of power. nikita khrushchev transferred crimea to ukraine, crushed the suede. i think this profound dislike for all things russians comes from . because if they're going to just start in 2014, it's been building up for many years, even decades. you know, 1st of all, i was born involved. i was born in north pole on don't you will find when you moved to. i thought strange. and when i turned 5, because of always an incredibly beautiful city and with doing it and they have great music school in traditions at the conservatory, they do is this the way you've probably heard of the golden ring. and so it includes lots of work that is bloomberg, that's involved now. and also tristan, i think, and girl, it's a total of 5 cities. and, oh, world famous musicians would visit the conservatories in the cities and, you know,
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several times a year to give all 3 now called master classes and list of course, you know, most of them told such classes, centuries ago, some of the famous notes out. but either his father or his son, one of them who so what we both had to offer in terms of music education was superb . anastasia, it was beautiful and its own solutions. you know, it's something like poland, new york, or is it like old stray? although of course, it's a pain influenced by austria hungry, but i do remember from my childhood years that they had a bad attitude towards kids. and that was because in the volts opinion gave me did not pull up any serious fights against moscow. the stadium used email school vice gave was well integrated into the ussr, while level of the screen, you know, when german troops entered the sits agency, they met no resistance to move quite the contrary, the local people welcome to them because they, they to push to solve them as liberators. go what types of labor items from the
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soviet so far as a is my chair and they had this kind of through, let's say we're pro western thinking. so from the better starting with 0 to when i was attending the music school, there was a class for russian speaking children with but everyone else smoke ukrainian as we could. we also had ukrainian classes at school, but we'll have our own way of thinking and speaking, even in russia, kind of a lot of places have their own sub dialects traditions, then you put it doesn't involve any sort of hostile attitude towards their own neighbors. yes ukrainians. williams, i think is simply to be russian. i'm sorry, if this may sound improper in today's atmosphere. i think they want to be the 1st. what is to be number one, number 2 moves, and that's all there is to, which means we are the same people. how many families out there are like this is a russian husband, ukrainian wife duty for weiss versa. and they've got the children were just a little zillow overall. i think it's
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a very complicated process that's happening today. yeah, yes there's, there's an economic issue, which i'm only getting it's low, which explains why this bubble finally burst. the bubble has always been there. so you sound to involve russians were, show, was a not always treated in a friendly way, but aims. salzburg as well, which also mentioned that things might be moving in the same direction. or i wanted to mention salzburg because it was clear that you had a chance to play mozart's own instrument. and yes, you were given the owner as someone from a unique contribution to the history of music stuff. i grew reading dr. via locked and also be a sallow instrument that or the 1990. if i'm not mistaken, do you think a concert like that would be possible today, both on your part and on the part of austria? who was more than anything is possible the cause and you told me that there was a time. i don't remember the years exactly. you're going to happen and when the
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relations between the soviet union and the united states were incredibly tense, i mean, cuz you have with the live, i was a 1st year students at the conservatory at that time june, got them to get caught. it was also then would invite legendary soviet musicians for years now. so use new, you mean, i know, and middle dealers and loan and kogan would go there. and some of the younger ones, too much think it was the bush. and even though no one else could perform abroad, but that was done exclusively at conduct the whole you thinking this possible contractors who would, and that is why i say everything is possible. and so they've been today. the question is whether it's necessary, what are the person himself wants to go past for the concert in salzburg? yes, it was fortunate to be the 1st person in more than 200 years to be given that to pursue it as a to hold mozart's viola in my hands to play it between this and the wonderful coincidence. but ultimately he's the old, turned out to be
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a brother of my own instruments that were both made by the same viola crossman. it's about 3 years about. i don't remember which is older. you think? well, if you were offered the same opportunity today, would you take it for personal reasons or perhaps for the sake of cultural diplomacy and diploma? the only few regarding more lives now, then they were offered to let's go to most local who do most siblings. i've done so many lessons and his name has been you said the new school and now i know i am may be paying the modest here. no budget regarding these, my namesake of trolls were all similar to like a garden at heart. you know, we'll want to be champions vs vin number one in sports and music and all with who knows at the office told here 9 years ago when we did good things, we came up with a competition for young composers in pleasure too for you. so we've received $69.00 application so far, that unit and one of the winners. by the way, it was
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a crate in the to visit the site for him to go back home. now one thing, one which i think isn't most co at the moment, but it's still has a great in passport. yes, you never changed it. i haven't mentioned personally, but everyone spoke very highly of him. i think he won the 2nd prize, so i could be wrong. we uh, you always wear your pendant with saint george and son. george is revered by the russian orthodox tradition as the patronizing of the russian army. although he defeated the dragon he died in march here is death sitting here for refusing to recount his phrase, in favor of the roman gods, at least one according to the christian tradition, i wouldn't be the one to draw up the barrels here. but in some way, it seems to me that russia is now also fighting for its phase, for its cultural and historical legacy,
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as well as for the right to choose its own pulse. but that's what i think. i am wondering why you mean your, what is your view on this is how do you see the present a conflict in this kind of spiritual context with the fingers made just please don't laugh humans. good. so i'm gonna go, i'd say that they couldn't simply come up with a wave, a magic wand, if blood in my puts in where the people to president of europe toll of europe, police don't scare of yours. and then of america. and the entire world was the only because of the actually on the paper certainly flies. the good thing is today's conflict has also failed evil. the fights and evil. it's about the good. yep. yep. and a good as we see is of course the ssl certificate. and i certainly understand that a while america wants to rule view russell, this opportunity is this the end which make it paid twice the price and less blue or even more north of. so if the field, but all this about the market is to do. and if there are also people everywhere is
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good, they've got governors see, and every district and lots of bus mississippi's. so the president is doing an excellent job managing them old. i mean, it wouldn't make much of a difference if you go to manage fronts. germany, they to lease pain and so on. and users and they were very complimentary about him at the very beginning because no one has a president like this. no one can. i think president clinton has no emissions to forward you over a while. i will ask him to be, well, i think it's probably, i think he'll probably say no even to you, but he'll have a good laugh. it's got a terrific sense of humor, but it's serious question. and you as a person distinguished with multiple international awards, you might include in a grammy, a very well acquainted with western culture and it's mentality. so why do you think it's so hard for western europe and for the west in general to accept the russia as it is from if not in terms of partnership and cooperation that i'm placed in terms of acknowledging that were we clearly valuable that we have the right,
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to be the way we are doing it. but why do i think they think that you should probably ask them? yes it does. it does you know it to you? but if you ask me, we have to come over slowly. i can give is my opinion of them. so the pro example, i like the french wine or even haute cuisine doesn't mean that those are excellent to tell you. and i like to tell in wine and food, you know, the wine is amazing and the level in the to run into their food is very good and more natural than in front of you. i like to tell in session, in tokyo, when you're writing an elevator, you just, when you said tchaikovsky on the way down, despite the fact that the japan is, it's now not very friendly to russia for, they simply did not reset the settings. yeah. well, i don't know who wrote this music, gainesville icons say, but they like, it's a lot just into this kind of like shopping to do any of them. they loved piano
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music. so what did i think about us? they probably think of the kremlin stones that would cripple drink vodka here, attempts to be what else shouldn't they also think the trasha represents the opposite of freedom? that's russia is overall, the regressive backward nation with no freedoms. and so i want to, to ask you as a person representing the culture at its highest a little that's more than can high culture exist without freedom. and what is freedom in the context of russian culture with them fullness full freedom that combines with a lack of taste that produces an r k. i think that and that's vulgar. and if a person has a taste and that's something everyone must hone and improve throughout their lives, and you'll see everywhere at the resume includes duty even as the water and having taste means you have certain reasonable limits in your freedom. yeah, and that's and that's what makes freedom different from on
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a key. i believe russia has more freedom of speech to, of course you can cut this out. yeah. but as far as i understand, we have more freedom now than germany. when you know this because of all the festivals that was the most, they still invited performers from other countries of the machine. if they're willing to come meet, they may have problems upon their return home. so someone, when all right, it is so slow and perhaps more last questions the weather as we see now this attempt to cancel culture is no longer applied to russian culture only. but for instance, to your door caresses, who is greeks, is guessing she's participation in concerts cancelled, mainly for the initiative of ukrainian positions under various pretext kimberly. and then one thing, i think this process can eventually result in what kind of resolution can we expect? a 3 of them, i think was the best answer to your question moist lou tubes that will be if i tell you a story, what happened to me in salzburg?
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so it seemed that was sometime before the great in conflict, but they have to assess thing, woods. and so it probably may ask them if you've had a concert scheduled with the local, which in most i'll tell them, hold his truck, the performance went very well. and there was a left only the world to play, one of i'm sure, but symphonies as a 2nd act, very young, but for the public was very welcoming. we were a huge success. so people sending and then one person went up to the stage formula and stood in front of it with a slogan. i don't know what it said, but he was shouting something very loudly, the audience tried to boot him into silence. like why, what's this new ones that come to the musicians, the orchestra that the, that goes in the model because try it was the local orchestra need both of you had been working so hard for a week to perform. i'm under my guidance, use, and way chief to success. it was great him to put the old in sort of get to closing . and so i came out on stage again. the man kept standing there with his slogan,
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shouting via, but i seen you. i think it was about cry, mia? and he was probably asking me why i support the saying, but i never even noticed something i remember going to the beach is of crimea as a kid was my mom, the of them was a lot to that. and what i never had invitations to perform a concert and cried me a, this is and i started guessing invitations to perform the only up to cry me. i joined rush into the room and that's when i realized i don't all the time before. i mean, it wasn't russian, it wasn't mine as well with the. yeah, but do more, less and so my on so 2 years back then i felt because what should i do? i came on to the stage for the 8th time. seemed 40 years old, but then i picks up my music sheets. oh sure, but symphony though and put them over my head up with you to the old and stood up that was told on the clothes and the police took that amount of weight. it was the only thing that can save us is what lifts your soul and makes it bigger. and that's
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classical music 1st and foremost wishes and speaking again which in the present pulse and there's a big fan of classical music. it listens to it on the plane is so i'm going to takes piano lessons and really wants to play better and better. i think that i know that they think i've heard and play myself. can you get a sense? i'm sure i have these phones make him any more popular in the west, but in any case, the says cares about popularity in the west. maybe that's what matters. these are countries unity, i thank you very much for speaking to us. thank you. thank you for watching hope to see her again on once a part of the,
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