the the hey everybody, i'm rick sanchez. this is direct impact. and this is what we're going to be talking about. can't even go to thanksgiving dinner with our uncle because you end up in some weird fight that is unnecessary. these guys are generators and it is, you know, they're running for ki man, women haters club me. that's the word we're the word of the day is they say coming . the harris choose is that guy. that's governor. tim was about the state of minnesota to be her vice president who is easy and why did they pick them and why didn't they pick the other guy? we're going to tell you this direct impact on what sanchez. let's do this, the, the, okay, it's all about politics, right? there are 2 selections that we have to share with you today that give us some

insight. this is important and into the minds of the people in the united states who are in charge of beloved or more specifically the democratic party. first, the democrats have chosen, as we mentioned. busy a while ago their vice president, that the winner is tim, lots of minnesota. we're going to tell you why he has been picked as the counter measured to j d bands. and we're also going to be telling you who they didn't pick and why. but 1st, as we like to say, but 1st, let me tell you about another important selection. the billings for the upcoming democratic convention in chicago in 2 weeks are in and they seem to be telling us an awful lot about who is in charge over there at the democratic party handling this campaign. the 1st part of the convention tuesdays you probably know this, right? it's usually where they put speakers that don't matter so much mayers of like different cities around the united states state legislators. no one's ever heard of. but kind

of people who don't matter as much because well, nobody's watching on tuesday. people don't stop watch start watching these things until later in the week. we'll get those big on tuesday, the president of the united states, joe biden. what does that tell you? wednesday, wednesday and thursday is when they start getting more people watching. and that is when the former president obama is kind of speaking so matters, right. ask yourself, who do i care about? who do they want to put out there? and who do they want to hide? right, and that, that same time, by the way, just so you know, in case you're going to be watching in 2 weeks, it's going to be, it's gonna be the 1st president button when they hope nobody's watching that it's going to be clinton and then it's going to be obama, and then it's going to be of course, the vice president for minnesota. and then of course, at the end, the big speech from canada, complet harris. that's the way they're planning it so far. and it says a lot better. of course there's the other big selection that we have to tell you

about today. as we mentioned, the pick for b, p is tim, lots of minnesota. he's credited and may have been chosen for. busy pulling off what is essentially a compass, i'm giving somebody a name or a brand and having a stick. he's not, harris came up with that whole description that they're using now against new york, their opponents that uh, that is essentially this thing unless we do not like what is happen, what we can't even go to thanksgiving dinner with our uncle because you end up in some weird fight that is unnecessary and i nice thing bringing back people together . well, it's true, these guys are just here and it is, you know, they're running for he, man, women haters club or something. that's what they go at. that's not what people are interested in. we're nonsense can be presented here. why don't work every one will be in a cheap one where we saw so it's kind of like a, you know, it's, i call like mark or ruby, a little mark, a ride or colleague, hillary clinton,

crook and hitler. it's like, come up with a name, you hope it sticks and it looks like in this case, this guy came up with something in stockton. now he's really be great. but maybe more importantly than who the democrats effect in this case is who they didn't pick . the big money donors, wall street and party a projects all wanted pennsylvania governor, josh shapiro. here's uh, shapiro. okay, so, but that, but there's a sense that shapiro would have caused division in the party because he called protesters who disagree with israel's mask or dogs of the k k k or compared them to him. he also called for clamping down on college campuses who allowed protests to take place, even when after ben and jerry's because apparently been injurious at an ice cream and had a position on the, the as really settlements. i'll be honest with you manila i, i thought that josh imperial was a show and i thought he was gonna take it. i was kinda surprised this morning when you of all people were the 1st one to call me and tell me, hey, guess what? they went with the, the guy from minnesota. what do you make of this?

the weight of my read on that is slightly different than yours, rick. i thought it was going to be a toss up between the walls and the junior senator out of arizona. astronaut marcelli. yeah. so the husband of gabby gifford is because uh as, as people know the, the northern states like minnesota, like michigan wisconsin, have all been kind of known as the blue wall and what's, what's left of it any way? exactly. and in areas, arizona, arizona has shifted away from being squarely in the republican camp. you know, formerly a red state is kind of gone purple now, so i thought maybe they might be leaning towards a astronaut. might mark kelley. but you know, in this instance i get why they picked waltz speak waltz because, you know, he's, he's kinda noah. there's not nothing really remarkable about him. we're just, we're just, we're the video from jermel harris, but it's funny is the best of it was every midwest is where you have a,

but you don't have an access. you don't say anything on land is you just get. 2 when you go to work every day, and that's what they're thinking with this guy, they'll be able to get pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, and ohio. i doubt it, they'll probably, they'll certainly deliver minnesota. the rest is yet to be seen. i want to stay on politics with them and i will because i want to talk about something we talked about this morning and something i'm going to be talking about with a special guest today. um, you know what is and we'll play a key role in the selection race. that's right, it's a race and it's about race. and when it comes to race in the united, in the united states, we're always just talking about one thing color. seriously, think about what i'm about to say here for a minute, because i want you to consider this. every country in the world celebrates the distinctions of its citizens. it's what makes them different. you know, different people have different nationalities, different people have different ancestors. different people have different races that among the races there are distinctions, even in the races. different people in different countries have different histories

. those are all the great things about us, which makes of part of the humanity, right? and that is how almost every place in the world sees it except of us except the united states. here, the only thing that matters is color seriously. in the united states, there are 2 categories used by the media and in general, and most certainly in the way they cover politics. here in the united states, you're either white. yeah, that's a white guy, or you're a person of color. what does that mean? what color, who the hell knows? but that's the way you're classified. if you live in the united states, nowhere in the world, nowhere in the world do they do that. and here's how it works. if you're a white envelope section, european american, then you're white. you can be a dot guy from new jersey who was italian and then how it'd be darker than anybody . the matter. he's a white guy, no matter how dark his skin is. you would also be a recent arrival from some european country like scotland or france. then you also

can be considered a white guy, even though you're kind of immigrant to the united states. but if you're latin american, you're going to be a fucking faced, argentinian, or blog, mexican. you are and will always be a color. pardon me, a person of color and not allowed to consider yourself. why? watch that says in spanish, but all translated be mexican means you can be white or black. how can you be, why can be mexican, to have it all mexicans are like that. it's exactly what the mountain that video, by the way, and that's the sentiment popular and mexico where they make fun of the fact that in america, no mexican is allowed to be considered white. no matter how white they are. however, here in america, mexican, americans have for generations been indoctrinated to believe that they actually are not white. so they call themselves when they talk, they say, oh yeah, my friend over there, the white guy. so even though he looks like that guy,

such as mexicans, by the way, here's an asian man correcting his son for daring to think that he's why my son was born and raised in america. i remember one day he came, one take came home from school. that was when he was about 5 years old. he said to me, hit that. i learned american history today. i thought, wow, that's great. he said, not really feel bad for black people. i say, yeah, they're really messed with it in america history. is that yeah. that i'm so glad that i'm wide the of the hold on you're not what you said the what on my i said, you know, yellow yellow. it gets even more weird. you ready for this in america? they have even come up with a name for the original americans to separate them from the real americans. are you

following me here? who, of course, the real americans are the white guys. that's right. well, make, if mexicans have to consider themselves to be brown, that's the color they've been given to use among themselves. agents have to, i guess, consider themselves yellow. how ridiculous is that so called the original americans are, are you ready? there? read. they get the color red and they do have bought into it once it's native american woman referring to a reporter is a white lady. you know what white people you've had your voice here for 524 years, 524 years. you have been physical white lady. you have been physical for 524 years . low cost asked your wife man comes and steps up for you. it's like big lake. they believe the drive. they've indoctrination. how. how, how and why do you think this happened? how has the american body politic, especially the democrats and the media?

how have they been able to convince us. busy that we're all either white or a person of color and nothing else can be taken into consideration. why we accept to these terms as even republicans haven't figured this out, or how to combat this jenny vance. the other day, they fell into this trap. he was asked about his wife and he was talking about trumps comments. by the way, his wife is of indian descent and he actually said, look it up. he said, well, my wife not why, but i still loved her. don't like, why would you say that that's crazy. the fact of the matter is uh, in an election year and we should consider how we think of these things. right? because if the media can convince us that if we're an immigrant or a minority or your last name happens to be sanchez or rodriguez, then you have to consider yourself a person of color and identify for the most part with african americans. that you're not just classifying me,

you're literally telling me how i have to think and eventually, you know what else they're doing and especially this matters now. they're telling you how to vote. all right, listen uh, by the way, manila, you know, you've got a lot to say about this, but you also are have invited a guest who is going to be joining us a by the way. you're welcome to stick around if you want to. uh for this conversation with him, tell me who this is. you were going to put him up on the screen. tell us who it is . it is a good friend of mine. his name is jason miles. he is a, an officer, a social commentator, a musician, a pod cast, or jason does it all. but he's a great observational writer about how race plays into the american social structure of the fabric of the us. and as you just go to, to about how eventually we're supposed to vote based on our color. and on top of that rec, not only are the we were on the color spectrum now based on our races. i think it's

even funnier when you add in the food references, right. like like a, an asian person being yellow, you're a twinkie sometimes are yellow on the outside. white on the inside of your coconut, your brown on the outside, white on the inside, or an oreo fee or whatever your nearest res person. where do you fall? where are you supposed to vote? someone like jason miles will break that down? yeah. hey victor, do me a favor? can we see jason barrier? go? thank you victor. a j said it, but you don't have to say anything. yeah, we're going to take a break really come back and that everyone's going to get to know what you think. and you're going to tell me, i'm either full of crap with what i just said or that maybe you agree with some of it. there's going to be a great conversation. unimportant conversation, by golly, will be right back. the water is part of the

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you're not allowed to be complex or talk about complexities. you're only allowed to be either white or a person of color that makes no bam sense. and that's why we've invited this guest, who's the perfect guy to talk to about this. jason's written a book, it's called i was a teenage at our coast. it looks at whether people are genuinely resisting and it also talks about how people compromise their own values to be a part of the mainstream success. so it is kind of what we're talking about here as well. and by the way, manila is going to be joining us as well because she and jason have known each other and she's interviewed him in the past. this is my 1st time doing it. so what do you think a, let's start with just my general premise. why is it that we're the only country in the world where we are only really given 2 classifications to choose from? i find that crazy and frustrating. how about you? i mean, if it goes about latin america, especially countries, i've had large sugar plantations that have large black populations. you can see

something similar, right? like brazil, as i believe, a larger black population there than we do in the united states. but what does that have to do with calling but, but what does that have to do with calling a person who just arrived in brazil last week from i don't know, nicaragua, and saying that he's a person of color. why? because of the name of the person of color, but they probably call them nicaraguan and there is color ism in latin america. and i wouldn't disagree with, with the framework you're using. i would, i would maybe expand and say there was a race reduction is framework that we use in this country that up, you skates class. and that becomes a big problem because if all we see is just the color as you put it has been, we don't see certain class contradictions. mm hm. um, so for example, in one of the clips you, you played of the tim waltz, the new vice president, when all you see is color, you can get this moment. like we got in 2016. if you remember when the bernie

sanders was, was running. yeah. he was running on a platform that really encourage public goods governance kind of a return to a new deal keynesian as him and things like free college, medicare for all. these are the big ticket items in which he was running on. and these things would definitely help people of color, black people disproportionately, we would definitely benefit from these things. what need kept that 2016 race more than anything. was the emergence of b, a land saying that he had no quote unquote black agenda. huh. but what was the black agenda? did he have to embrace something like reparations? and he wanted to have housing program. yeah. but you're not listen. i, there's nothing you're saying that i don't i agree with what i'm talking more about just classification. what, what i'm trying to nail down and manila, you're welcome to join in here is, why is it that we don't described somebody more?

exactly? why can't you say he is a jamaican american? who has a dad who was from india? and by the way, he happens to be light skin. uh now i got a full understanding of who that person is. when you tell me, you know, i am a cuban i was born in cuba. my parents are my great grandparents immigrated from spain. but when i checked my dna, i'm mostly from athens, greece or something that tells you something about who i am to call me a person of color tells you nothing about me, nor does it say anything about you that you're a person of color, nor does it tell me anything when you call somebody a white guy. what does that mean? you see my point, let me, let me. i mean you can project on to the real quick. i'll go ahead, but i want to drop off um, based on what jason was saying about the reductionist part. and i think that's part

of an imperial empires way of divide and conquer. so if you do, if you call populations, you know, white or other and then you break down the other to this on nuanced brown person, yellow person, red person, one person. it's still unload a divide and conquer and when it comes to politics there's nothing easier to win a certain segment of the population in a matter by them as so. so yeah, i think that's kind of what it is. yeah, i agree with you jason. what do you think? i oh, i mean, definitely racial politics and i'm from california who's organizational politics is something that, that we see. there's also, i guess you can see there's benefits within it as well. um, we do have to kind of pull back for a little bit and see how these things actually work in real time. so for a state like california, once you finally start to have latin legislators, you start to get laws passed. that'd make it easier for people that might be and

documented to become citizens and receive certain benefits and to be able to work the. so what a concept, the disagree, what a concept that having hispanic legislators interstate, where the hispanics have been there for 900 years. what a concept that just 20 years ago they said, hey, you know what, let's have a hispanic congressman there. but my point is that what's interesting, i think about this is and here's what i think the motivation is. i think democrats know that they'll always be able to count on the black vote, and there's only so many black americans are only 11 percent of the population. so to grow that vote, they need to bring others to so called consider themselves to be part of the black boat. so they need to match up the asians with the blacks and the hispanics with the blacks. and literally, i have this uh, this, this effort to create this new grouping. that's called people of color. i think that is something they have done and they have done it on purpose. call me crazy.

yeah. but, but right. i don't know. it's only if you just think we also have to understand why can the democrats be able to contain the black vote the way they do, right, there has to be something that's paying off for black people in some capacity for that to work. or is it just be overt racism that you get out of the republican party? yeah, yeah. you know, i think it's like 88 percent of voting age. black people in america vote. democrat . and there's been about a 3 or 5 percent shift to the in the, in the years of trump. but it's not a massive shift. but, but are there other democrats delivering, if i, if we are, are they giving the african american vote other than what some people would call lip service? actually a sense of empowerment as they often promised. very well, i would say i would say god, no, but then again, you look back at the year 2020, we call it. but george floyd summer. right. the nation exploded in protests for

various reasons that we don't have time to get into. yeah, let's just say one of the main focuses was the funding, the police departments and social justice causes. well, what does the democratic party give you? they give, you can take law in kneeling, and then corporate america pays $50000000000.00 in, in, in, in race and racial causes. but, but what really changes in america, especially when it comes to policing, especially if you look at numbers for people getting killed by police, it hasn't really gone down since 2020, but we didn't have a but that's what he said. but that's a great example of exactly what i'm talking about. you're going off the, you're going off the reservation here by talking about the police. i under no, no, i get it. and, but because there's plenty of correct. however, here's what makes this so dangerous that we're talking about this classification. it is so easy in the argument that you just presented to them separate americans by

white and people of color. because if your wife, you're going to be with the police, no matter what they do. but if you're people of color, you're going to question whether the police, because you have an ad pulled you over once. and that's how it's yours. did they fill out a raise? you this guy, how you do this? and if you remember the ninety's when tough on crime laws were coming down. yeah. and 1912 hours the year we get the, the omnibus crime bill from current president job. i'm right. uh campbell, a harris is a black woman that's coming up political age around that time too. and the omnibus crime bill was not hated by a lot of the chattering class and black america. if anything it was looked at as a bit of a sab, for the violence we were seeing, due to the drug trade and gang violence in major metropolitan areas. so the solution that a lot of people saw and even people like com la harris thought was that if we lock

up these drug dealers for long periods of time, then we could in this problem political of theories. ishmael read in 1991 and believe said, i don't care if the kid is 12 years old. lock them up for the rest of his life. i don't know if ishmael read feels the same way 30 some years later, but, but we would look at him as a person on the left then and now. and that's the way he felt. but that's what, but yeah, a lot of people's feelings when it comes to crime is locked these people up. i mean, look at where people are, but who are they planning to 2024. but who are they planning to win by and did that when by did that jason, he was playing to the quote, a quote, white guy vote. right. i mean, i would disagree and say he was playing to, um it was, it was a bipartisan consensus. yeah. but who was, he is a little different time. yeah, i mean, i live, i lived in that era, and i remember that suddenly i saw traditional democrats trying to act like they

were all tough because they didn't want the republicans to at the time, right. but lived there by ronald reagan to take away that vote from them also. they had already lost it in the south and they were afraid to lose that everywhere else you wanted to say mental. i'm sorry that i'd stepped on you on the box like that. sweet. no, no sweet swinging the other way. yeah. to jason point about commer harris in the ninety's versus comma harris, circa 2020 and the b o m riots now. she's suddenly setting up, you know, these, the fun, the police accounts to get people that torch court houses or federal buildings out of prison. right. so she's completely flip flopped in the other direction. and now she's trying to, you know, put on. she has no bonus cds internationally. i know she's supposed to as the p at this point, but she still doesn't have any, any of that right now at this point. and furthermore, to the, the point about knew was that we were, you know, talking about earlier with raise. the reason these politicians don't, don't, don't stop on the new watts is because then they will have to rule and make

policy based on new ones. that means they be held their feet can be held to the fire, so it's easier to just say, well, black people care about this and asian people care about that. and let's hear the edits, especially easy what broad terms when it's especially easy when you've already classified them as such. so then they think they have to think that way because after all, i am a person of color or i am considered a white guy. so i fit into this agenda, they have given me so all i have to do is put my foot on. that's the point that i'm trying to make that i find frustrating and these times. but darn it, we're out of time. jason, you are a delightful guest. it's wonderful to be able to talk to you and share. i can we get you back? you want to do what? let's go. another round. come yeah, we'll go to other around this time. we'll talk we'll, we'll go vote more into the politics of the thanks guys. thanks manila. see above the bank direct. that's our show. remember, always look outside your own box. true so they don't live in blocks. it's

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