sacrifice that you say it's natural for a state to pay tribute to those killed in action. i understand that all of them visited the swine in the private capacity and that it is not to match for the government to come and tell him it is natural for any nation to pare respect to those who have given the laws for the country. what are 2 contributor, carl, john believes that diplomatic spouse comes down to japan's failure to fully assume responsibility for crimes committed during the 2nd world war. one of the big 4 in the latter relationship between china, japan or south korea and japan is the attitude of the japanese government. 2 words, a will work. time of war to history. i mean, 1970 during the time when the west german chancellor, willy brad, kneel down in front of the monument to warsaw ghetto. authorizing war was the famous kneeling of wasa, 1970. that was the same time that the people and yeah,

so when you try and decided they're going to start to petition to whole, so 14 last a work criminals without being convicted by and which would talk your what should be? well no i, many of them hang for it to wholesalers, spirit in the ask who news, right. i mean to be, to be worship together with the other $2500000.00 word that this is a huge issue in the, in the power relationship between china, japan and also korea and japan. just because people in china and korea this deal, the japanese government has never really come clean about their past the never show proper repentance. so this is a issue that continue to affect the bilateral relationship today. in fact, you know, when united states is pushing south korea to, for a trilateral military alliance between south korea, japan indicted state very strong resistance. domestically due south korea, besides this bad history between yeah, japan of the recent assassination attempt, a dollar from follows

a long and deadly history of us political violence. so just how talk 6 is to the 5 between left and right. in 2024 states crossed off debates the the hello and welcome to cross that bull horns on peter level here we just got some real news. the attempted assassination of donald trump tells us all we need to know about the extreme intentions that make up american politics. sadly, america has a long and deadly history of political violence. the country's political culture is simply toxic. to discuss these issues and more,

i'm drawing by my guess your to send me while we in budapest, he's a pod counselor where the guy go, which be found on youtube and locals and america. yes, we have martin jay, he's an award winning journalist and commentator or a gentleman cross that girls and the fact that means he can jump any time you want . and i always appreciated. right, let's start out with george in budapest as usual. george, we called this one we had been saying for a very long time because of the, um, the perceived um, extremes of american politics that something like an attempted fascination could happen. well, it is already happened. so what does this tell you in a, how does this change the dynamics if at all, go ahead george. that's what it says of the election. i think the dynamics. so we've, we simply don't know, does he have how that is going to affect the outcome? so, but this was entirely predictable because of the loop the other years and years of,

of under the oh, harold hysterical coverage of trump bodies. i mean, the median contributed to this episode of the ridiculously staring. but of course, while the patients and cheaply president, by the who has repeatedly is declared that this doesn't exist central matter, but the united states that, you know, trump poses the next essential for it to the united states. he has been saying this since 2019, and that's remember even before that the trunk was a q is essentially by much of the media. and again, much of the democratic party all having been an agents all the kremlin. nonetheless, it was a traitor and it is when you go to somebody afraid so that when you say that that person is literally add all hip left. well, what happens is the, the, the amazing thing that it's taken this long for something like this to happen. and what, what is really disgusting is all these politicians mancy below. oh, see chuck schumer, i can you geoffrey by and him. so that was a,

will we wish trump very speedy recovery? political violence has no place. and now this goes, well, you're golden. i don't feel, well if he's out of hipaa, why would you be wishing him speed you recover it? so obviously you were lying and you would just been basically pulling the american people by golding of ablest oh, this was exactly what you were hoping. what happened? some uh, you know, young a young man about the list of assessing was of the 20 years old. when say i go to save the well, so model hippa, so you know this, we get it quite a disgusting people present. now going on, you know, martin ya, you've already seen the picture, which i wrote that send it to you. it's, i comic it certainly is iconic. it's probably been seen by over a 1000000000 people already around the world. and it's akin to like the flag on you will, jima, i mean, or some of the civil rights moves mean images. we have assassinate other

assassinations. but the way i read that the picture is that the way his supporters, i mean they feel his literal pain. they feel who did the persecution, this ridiculous law fair against them. there's probably a, a 1000000 good reasons to dislike donald trump. but the, this persecution of him infuriates people and people that maybe not have a very strong political attitude. they literally feel this man's pain or i think so. yeah, and i think of that and they will be beyond the political camp and they will be a number of the swing swing voters are undecided versus from the other side as well . who now i've seen the, which one, they've seen the court cases and they don't believe they have to believe what they're saying. they know that there's a significant change up behind all of that. so george's, absolutely right. because i still realize we went off against from i think it was this to back in p. m who just treated just a few minutes ago. he said something along the lines of, you know, it was an image for single day. so when you put the guy down so much, that

a member of the public was going to do the job and stuff up some ok and then take the short, i'm paraphrasing, didn't say exactly like that, but you get to point to not, not you have to ask yourself um, the security of this, but these events, i mean, you know, i don't want to be a kid's a be a conspiracy theorist. but no one has to wonder with the, with the windshield that i mentioned before with the, with the amount of cases that have been brought against from the up to wonder whether the deep state also perhaps arranges the secuity these events to be so poor because it's only a question of time, sooner or later before it comes to like america with some crack poll brings along a $100.00 rifle and, and takes a few shots of a this go. i mean, i think it was an image for that. it, we should be. so shocked by it, especially when you look at the video footage, which came online just minutes late to of 3 security late to use f b i ladies with the very started so thought losses who were just running around the heads of chickens. i mean, it was literally pissy for watching these 3 ladies. one couldn't hosts or

a weapon properly. another ones was more concerned about putting a sunglasses incorrectly to look cool. in the behind them was the smart close to them and, you know, taking something away and it was just a few letters to be honest. so you're going to also sort of questions. but i think the broad question, the bigger question is, when we have lives in these thomas before that from phenomena is entirely new grounds. i just, i'm president of, i think the bigger question is, is this a small tell you some things companies and stuff typically ice book, you know, we were open, bracing us of wondering we were not so confident where we're pretty confident that something was going to win the will, the country will america, i'm tentacles of all the power within it. allow him to win. you know, you're off on november, the 5th. you know, we're going to see thousands of people to take to the streets with a $100.00 rifles or worse. well, but i think martin, i think it's pretty fair to say, i'll throw it to george right now. whatever the outcome half the country is not going to agree with it. that's where we are. george. no,

that's. that's exactly right. that'd be the other half of the country will not agree with that. and even, even if he is alexis house, when he will, he be inaugurated george. will it be another piece like that? that's right. and i mean, we'd already know this because he's adding to the hysteria that if the democrats do capture the house, they will not. so they probably the result, this is something that they've already said they will not. so divide the result is that it's entirely dependent on the republicans taking the house. we're trying to be installed as president. and, you know, even if he is the president, we're going to get full years of this and really lives with the, you know, there's a lot of training now in recent years of assassination of, i mean, russell. it was only weeks ago we were talking about this estimation of time, phone robust fits so um, you know, the, we had the, uh, the assassination attempts up the, the, the congressional bowl game that was in 2017. we had them fascination of time from

them. the supreme court justices kind of on the so they were using all of these events are good. the direct result of the if you scenario that is being whipped up by the i have to say the democrats and their of media allies. and so therefore, if the truck does become present, that isn't going to stop. so, so like this is this, the, they, they've determined that this is on, this is the existence loses existence related deeps or repeating this, somehow america kind of survive. donald trump, remember the horrible both of mr. victor newland. uh victor. victoria missed the victoria noon and robert kagan wrote, in an all pad and the washington post. and we talked about this. it was about 5 or 6 months ago, which was pretty much cooling for this explanation of trump. we just said this man is such a exist central thread. we can't stop him. this is like, this is julia sean's a. you know, this is the only way, the way we go,

we're going to deal with him is the way they build the junior senior. so this is, he doesn't affect your business how, what the, how the political establishment is thinking. and indeed, as mafia said, there are serious reasons or as questions about the security elapses there. i mean, it's just inexplicable. absolutely. yeah. but it really questions? well it's, it's really quite remarkable. a martin is a, this is a, i'm glad you brought up the flow of our prime minister. mean, this is what we see all across the western world. everything is x a central. if everything is x essential than anything and everything is permitted because it's, you know, it's to be or not to be. this is a, you know, it, you know, it's obviously very reminiscent of a civil war in, in the united states. but this is a civil war that's being played out across the west as well. yeah. but it is like stuff. so and, um, unfortunately, what i witnessed in, in my career and the last of the use of john and it says how western countries have

become more and more the piece with systems become simplified binary. they become binary and they become, you know, very much a m, as simple as like, black and white choices for people. and i think this has been accelerated by the advent of social media. but also martin, don't you think? what do we live, thinking about the elections in france and then the u. k. and then the european parliament just you can win a lot of votes, but you don't get to live a seed. so, i mean, it's becoming more and more obvious that the system is rig system is right. i mean that the to the west of democracy, less than democracy and it's models, plural. i don't know. okay, so not functioning anymore. you know, so you're getting the vote. so the bottom, the books, the people know that the vote is very much a token part of the whole thing. you know, that, that needs to be something else to hold politicians accountable. and um, so you know, uh, especially some attempts that public valleys in america, it's certainly something that surprises us assassination attempts to western

leaders like just to back in pm. perhaps this is going to be something that we're going to see more render a grandmother in the press because, you know, as i say, i don't, i think the confidence to just waiting now, you know, we were looking for an alternative level of the present one. you know, just just don't seem to what we're looking at nature for example, which just celebrate his birthday, you know, some pundits of august. well the basis of may, so 75 years ago was a particular one. i mean, the idea that the soviets have this ministry spread against us and going to wipe us out the same argument, same x, essentially some, you know, st. absolute, unqualified on viruses. unimed, all the absolute explanations which were supposed to swallow with the well, i mean, in never and given a democratic test, you know, you know, george is really interesting is the way when we look at these elections, but your participation legitimize is the outcome, but not your decision, you see what i'm saying is that the, no, it's the we have a, we have a vibrant but when democracy because people vote but it doesn't. that doesn't deal

with the outcome of the vote. george know that that's right. i mean that, and that's why there is this good constant manny attempt to get everyone to vote to tell you. oh, really, really, what did you vote your most about? you know this, your duty as a citizen to vote and then i think was a little why what, what difference the going to make and why we're getting lead is that we don't what do you know to kind of the said we don't want, if it was a little of the problem with this or the west and democratic model is that it's just based on one of printers, which is we have to keep out the other guy. the other guy is an existing show threat that that's all, sir. we don't, we don't actually and promise you anything. we don't have a positive program. we don't, we don't, we have no idea how to improve your life, but not for us. and that person is literally hitler. and we have to do whatever we can in order to keep them on a bar. and this is what we're doing. this is what is the, whether it's the united states, whether it's crossed. oh, it is in germany, and i get very soon. it will be the case in the u. k. where, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, literally,

hipaa will be natural garage or we have to keep them out. otherwise democracy will come to an end. yeah. every when, when everything becomes a, it's a stenciled and everything is legitimate and everything is on the table except for recognition of the democratic process. gentleman, i'm going to jump in here. we're gonna go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real need to stay with r t the

the, the welcome metric cross that boulevards on peter lavelle. blanche were discussing some real news. okay, let's go back to george in budapest here. i mean what this is sending a very dangerous signal, because 1st of all, we're looking at the drums opponents. they are, they're, they're

a crocodile. tears means that it's pretty hard to believe. i mean, we went through this whole, the aid the ass though, we all were told that joe biden is just jim dandy. no sharp as a tack and all of that. and then we see what happened and then they do a flip. and now there's pretending that they never demonized donald trump. there are plenty of reasons to dislike donald trump. i don't get anything wrong. but you know, to turn around now and say don't, we don't want anything a, any, we don't have any ill feelings. we don't, we don't have any hope for a disaster do to come across him, but that's what true. it's all likes. very good. exactly. if it was all lies, and it was done precisely in order to whip up this, is there any you call just as i say? well, you know, this isn't really what we meant. we, we're in the business of civil discourse. i think obama issues, when we need, we need civil discourse. they're all we don't and there's no, no, no wrong. so violence. how is the civil disclose?

and we will remember that to then defend that solemn events with the red lights, but the by the, i called the muso, any moment now see leaning over the, which it was saying that, you know, and again, the strength was not just one chrome from child support. which is and then being on enrollment soon the beginning of a biden's term. he was talking about this, the existential thread. peruse by all sorts of, you know, characters that we, we could go the all the, you know, the, the ad cfax is the white supremacists, the white nationalist of the mag i'll follow is that isn't how they've been playing this political game. really, you know, for years and years, of course, something like this is going to happen to now does go down the road. well, we wish him a speedy recovery this. what's the mileage you decide is out all hibler and he's going to in democracy. they, his agenda is still in democracy. now you wish you must be there we go. why would

you wish him a speedy recovery? he's only going to end democracy in 42. yeah, martin the the way the, the rhetoric is been played out and it's almost getting close to 10 years and that when you think about it, okay, almost 10 years is that there is no middle ground. there is no compromise. everything is a pure a t test. okay. you can't run a democratic society like that for very long. it's utah and i think the, the, the situation that we're not in america. well, we have a choice of these 22 liters, who are both quite controversial and quite polemic for different reasons. i think the system is quite limited in the system. it may will be the, this particular election will spark, are completely new process. and the new process of dialogue from people right across this whole section of society to ask, you know, can we do something about the system? can we create a system which is more on more liberal?

i put something which, which says a certain more flexibility. in addition, for example, you know, we, we've seen the emergence of kids to guest alma who has basically taken control of the country with the lowest election to announce ever. and so people are starting to ask questions, you know, is it time for breast, some type of proportional representation of voting system? i think i'm probably the america is unlike person. you don't have that protest. foot accountants are in the middle. you don't have a policy called the liberals, you know. so the one thing or the other, i mean, correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is really now more than ever will begin to see how the system is failing people and you are quite right to say that, you know, it's very hard to imagine how coming into power with at least half of the country now obviously it's time into the world come in. so my point, my point is somebody has to change and i think this is probably the breaking point . yeah. i mean it's because george, you mean elections? they're becoming less meaningful. i mean, you, just, as you pointed out, you know,

what, you know, things everybody has to vote, you know, we're a voter turnout. you know, this legitimize the election, but it doesn't happen that way. i mean, it's still, it's for bowden to say in western media, but i mean, there are tens of millions of americans that don't believe the 2020 outcome. they believe that trump one in 2016. the one in 2020 and he's good. one went in 2020 thoughts except for they won't let him. they can just so you can define that yourself. go ahead george. yes, that's, that's. that's right. and that's exactly how people will see it. and really, you know, this, this, this estimation of the time comes authorized the series of events. remember, you know, they try to take him off the ballot, but it's a color unheard of. do that, that think somebody off of the ballot where you don't have a right to vote for this person. imagine that, i mean the hosp, the country regard, same as the legitimate prison. and then you said, well, no, no we, we, we made

a decision. if you don't have the right to vote, so i've never known as you know, an attorney general in new york state decide that i'm just going to bankruptcy. i'm just going to take away the law of his money. and i'm going to come up with some convoluted ridiculous legal theory that has never been tried. and i know i'm going to get a sympathetic judge. i was just going to take all his money away and they, and they tried to do it. it's only because they, the, the court jumped in and said, well, you know, i'll give it, take it easy with, with, with, with this, say this money grab another because, you know, we have uh, you know, was the, uh, the in full indictments, any of the system heard of, you know, yours is a president, there's never been invited once and now we have full of time for an election. so this is the last 90 process in which you got these political 5 is the absolutely determined to prevent the coming to plow of somebody will off the country regards

as they're legitimately to. well, you know, all the way this is of in fundamentally unstable situation. i mean, the, you know, as you may have, or that has to be some kind of a political consensus whereby, you know, you don't believe is accept outcomes and respectfully leader of the organization. now what, what we had during these last 2 and, you know, 24 hours easily off the he bunker as it english, the political, the stablish of pretense. that's the system. yeah, we all wish him well, a prez. i still to impress that with this family is up until the because sign at the moment is strictly to solve this thing. but ultimately, if we know we're going to go back with a few weeks, we're going to go back to the uh, the, the truck, hysteria. m a, you know, martin and so i'm glad the judge brought up these frivolous lothair suits. because the in the liberals they preferred riggins jerry's, but i think the rest of us would prefer the jury of the electorate let they let the electorate be the jury. now you've already explained to us the,

the impediments in the u. k. i mean, i'm astounded by me the outcomes of the french and u. k. a selection, i mean, just because you're with a lot of votes, doesn't mean you get much power, a seal the think come when the case of trump is what's, what's really interesting for me is that this breaks on this sort of from the crumbling of this foundation of what we believe since so long with the foundations of american democratic model. you know what people really believes and that they almost had a rigid reverence to it in the forest and fifties and now it's crumbling and it's coming on both sides. you know, we talk about trump and it's estimation of the time it seems to me to invite them to come, don't need to buy some kid to to sheep bikes and well, the, where's the near? nobody saying that here. now nobody's doing it seems to be doing it a pretty good self assassination or suicide on himself. you know, we were seeing panic now in the whole system and the democrats are beginning to panic in a different way. you got now i think 20 congressmen have written to,

to button saying, look, you know, you know, we love you, but give it up. i think also the hollywood has been weighing and as well people at george clearly. right. it was very timing based on the new york times. i mean, really tell me based and i think we spoke on behalf of a lot of hollywood products. you know, well, you know, i probably probably something i really do listen carefully but people like shepherds go any other say it how the what is so corrupt and it, it money you know, keep money corrupts everything. so money coming from hollywood into the political process is just the script. you know, you don't judge what's really, what's really amazing to me. trump, it will be a dictator. he will shut down democracy. you know, refresh my memory. he was president of the dispute goes okay, i didn't shut down the media didn't shut down the trade unions. he didn't, he didn't go after hillary clinton. it made his own deal. jay went after him. meanwhile, this is just say, a narrative may add

a full song. it's not as if we don't know who the guy is. is that that's the amazing thing. because, you know, we've, if you look back on the trump, is it basically the golf and as a kind of a moderate centrist or a republican? i mean romney, derek. i'm at raleigh. i mean, yeah, you know, he brought him the tax schedule. every republican president, boy says, tax gods, i mean that's the signature policy of, or republican administrations. and it does have as far on all of say, well, they've promised all kinds of things. he never delivered it. so, you know, the, the whole idea of what was going to withdraw from nato is going to withdrawal from syria is going to withdraw him from again, his son didn't do any of those things. and they get over. he gets that even by then, you know, you know, going to go over say the, you know, i, i know found it by the no one here is the final violence please. the withdrawal from afghanistan and trump just sent that said, yeah, i'm going to do that. but he,

you know, ultimately he didn't go ahead with it. so if you look back on those, he is just to take away his personality. he was a pretty, a centrist republican, so the hysteria has absolutely no basis whatever the whole this, like we said, made out of whole bloke. we the idea that he was pro russia, but he favorite brewton is just so stupid. so we the all think this, well, the large was russia gauges back to ok. let's you know, you know, mind it's really interesting. in looking at this campaign, you're obviously there's a microscopic scope on joe biden because of his mental acuity issues here. but, you know, you have to give credit where credit's due, trump has been running, and amazingly moderate to campaign was very, he's very careful. he's, he's, he, he is a, is, is got himself under control. and this is one. and now this, the campaign is completely turned upside down. again, everyone's going to be focusing on a, was your rhetoric. it was your narrative,

etc, etc, etc. and not on the policy is go ahead. i don't think i knew why. i think i knew why trump is that seems to be more so, but um, even even some of the lumps and at times when you would think he would rise to the page and the most sensational i think is because he's got the media experts and, and they've looked at the types, amazing value weighted where he's gone wrong in the past, and you know, he's more, he's but he's becoming more media professional now. and the way that you can see the way that is. so evidence was it was what does the base with the bite of yeah, the other 2, he then they ask plus, told him you don't need to weigh and you're not made to throw your arms around and say, oh, these stupid insults. just let the guy vary himself on which, which is what he did, you know? so i think to there is, there was a new trump emerging, which is the one who listens to his advice as well. and it's so clear the blind doesn't listen to any of his advisors setting on media, you know, and i think that's really going to make a difference. and it may will mean, made a critical difference when it comes to the, to the votes. and you know, but some,

i, i think we'll have to wait and see. and, you know, i think also um buttons got enough problems and the next few weeks. so, um, the democrats are telling me that there was a critical cut off point somewhere in the middle of august, where there will be no option any more to go with the item. and, well, definitely with the, with the republican convention coming up. and there's going to be plenty for all of us to chew on here gentlemen, that as all the time we have, i want to thank my guest in budapest and in verification. of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are the see next time. remember, prospect rules. the the,

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