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sooner than say, welcome back to going underground bolt. crossing all around the world from the u. a where president shakela home and been zaya edwards with chinese presents huge and big, and badging this week. both like the international community condemn israel is invasion of roughly enabled by the usa, u. k. and the you nations, today, voters and fellow bricks member and biggest democracy in the world. india will decide who they want as prime minister in the final stage. i mean, it's 18th general election. i know pac plus meat in vienna to defy us. goal is to increase energy output. it's also the anniversary, the 1982 signing of a landmark. i am asking you to weapon street between the us and russia. tune up by the old trump capitalizing a world today where israel, nato and russia, now named check the foreseeable use of nuclear weapons, whether it be in gaza or ukraine. joining me from falls church in virginia in the usa is a former us army officer, if that is kind of lawrence wilkerson, the steve to stop, i have a state department, would you like any blankets up? he adds an unconditional supporter of israel. a thank you so much kind of air coming back on monday and beheaded babies in rough or multiple eros,

whom is worth of t and t equivalent on garza. and today the end of us here, the now ended i n f new create a treaty. how new is the world to nuclear use? now of senior senator lindsey graham told me about israel and nuclear weapons just the other day. congressman said the gaza should be new it's interesting that you bring up the iron yesterday. it was colin pals greatest, he thought achievement with president reagan when he was national security advisor and deputy. and he said it was the most important new to our weapons. true, you all, because those weapons were the most dangerous of all. and now we've destroyed the starting with george bush and the abm treaty, which was an on bridal stupid on wise act advocate the treaty. and he did it essentially because the new conservatives and his government wanted him to. so that one, they can make money off the enormously expensive apparatus associated with the

empty. but also because they hated the world as they do every body other than us. and wanted to make sure that in the future they could defend themselves against a new car strike contemplating that they would launch that strike. so that's, that's how dangerous. so eliminating the nav 30 was and for all the others into it . and i don't want to leave out the conventional forces in europe treating you may have seen the recently, warmer blue flaw, a general harrell co job, and gave a disposition on our own presentation. a brilliant presentation era died sliding. alexander the great clowes with number of other people, but it is described how stupid, how unwise, our strategy is today, and what we're doing in your grain and gaza and elsewhere. i don't know where this

country is going, but i do know it's not any positive place anytime soon. i mean, just on the massacre in rough uh, the pictures of which uh, being beamed around the global south. if they end up being broadcast on what's being called us more often than not, nature propaganda, media that you have in the us and nato nations. when national security advisor jake sullivan, biden's advisor said, as you said, as regards the why, the us ascending weapons to israel committing genocide, according to most people around the world, he said, what we're going to be looking at is whether there is a lot of death and destruction from this operation. as regards the may, the 15th uh, another $1000000000.00 of us public money sent in at yahoo. does he facilitate this cost in rafa? of course, he did, everyone who's completed a, as facilitated from president joseph biden,

down to the lowest member of the united states government, who now has not walk out and resigned. didn't shame and anger over the policy um, goes back up just for a minute. if you look at what is happening in the i, c, j, m, the i c c. we're seeing the 1st display of more or less balanced international justice. in the past the i c. c, basically a captive of the non signatory power of the united states. only would i have to black people in africa and then when the balkans are up to the went after their 1st white people run a button garage, it can sold it on milosevic. but still going after people that the c i, a and the united states declared their enemies. now suddenly they've grown up. now suddenly they've got a pair of colonaze. now suddenly they are actually doing an international justice and look at what the great bastion of international justice here to for has said

about that. we haven't even had congress members who would call the family and members of the i, c. c. and threatened them. this is not the way a hedge fund or decent country or a country interested in its reputation. a future act is a way a country acts that is lost and building the rest of the world, like the brakes, for example, into a balancing entity to take care of it and mark my words that will happen. so you'd see that as the mosque being off because a lot of people say the international vocation chord as you anticipate, gave them another month, the israelis to continue committing genocide. then we're even had to bake weighted resistance to occupation with the response to october. the 7th that arguable continual violations of un security council resolutions in west bank in jerusalem

that are continuing right now. but there was a student move in my view. um, jurisprudence is jurisprudence, but you have to live in the world. and it was a very balanced decision to take to 3 principal leaders of a mosque and uh, you know, go out there and maybe not seeing you on the other side of thrones from other people in there on the throne. then get here and there for sure. beloved thursdays sell up that he is been given here would kill every palestinian man, woman and child in a heart beat. if you had the apparatus and the method to do it. so out of thrown him in there just to make it a little more balance, $3.00 to $3.00, if you will. but the court has to live in the world, and i think it's a good to say, yeah, well, it has a sub and they can get it closer to being ripple. it's of the threats to the judges before they were making their deliberations. but you mentioned been give you, you know, these really labor a potty chief said that to give you here and then yahoo were collaborators in the killing of a ravine in uh israel. do you think, what do you think that and yeah,

well maybe you can tell me uh, cause of course they denied about that and people don't watch the video. watch the video that these riley filmmakers put together and of course that we squashed as it was as soon as it's across the ocean. and we're shown in this country. but it's a brilliantly put together video because about 2 thirds of the video, the documentary is actual footage, including the actual footage of the assassination. and from that video made by jewish bell makers, mind you and is real. that video shows how not to know who started up the grounds, got the crowds to be violent, and a boy is and knew exactly what he was doing. knew what would happen, probably even knew the group from which the assassin would call. and of course, after the assassination, some years later, a resurrected a man made him a hero in the side or community. so baby was responsible for the assassination of

youth zach were being as we, the united states of america are now responsible for the genocide and gaza as well . and that kind of thing was known by us intelligence services. it was known in the state to us when you are chief of stuff, you bet. well them right now, you know, and that for years, do you think blinking realizes that netanyahu could be assassinated at any moment? that would be, you know, people ask me that question. mother said you don't understand the right versus the middle and the, well, my father used to put it this way. the left in the middle, bankruptcy of the ride will kill you. the left in the middle have no, no, no desire, no desire, no, no inclination to go out and shoot people or to blow people up or whatever, but the right does the right or not sees the right or trotsky is the right or linens. i'm sorry, they are people who want to kill to achieve their purposes. and so that's the people to be scared of imagining hours they've been give years and so forth. the

damage can be done in other ways. as my father used to say, the level bankruptcy. but they won't kill you, it's right, they will kill, use the hillers of the world of okay, you know, since we last spoke, of course, the president of iran has died in a helicopter accident. what were your 1st thoughts about that? i sort of the, the nature of propaganda media talking about how i'm popular a wise and physically regime change and tire on. and then so did we not show the millions on the streets of iran right across the country. morning, him. what was your 1st thoughts when you had raised the a died in the helicopter accident so soon after this calibrated response to the us . so i'm going to the, to the, these are in the bombing of the console as in damascus as well. that one right, right, easy is doing other than approving it. that was a very sophisticated group within they are out there on revolutionary guard. that the, the, um,

my 1st reaction was i want to see what happened at once towards the some film. i got my wish and i'm a helicopter pilot over 3000 hours 1000 plus of them in vietnam in combat. and i saw the conditions under which the helicopter went down and those conditions were the kind that, for example, destroyed a lot of high and these, that the russians flu, enough kind of stuff. because you get into the weather situations that are so desperate with a heavily loaded helicopter and hot spaces. iranian helicopters aren't very well maintain because we have sikes from the be jesus out of the aircraft repair parts re games. so they can't get anything new. they say that was an old bell helicopter for which they can't get pods from their 3rd parties very easily. i should say, i've lived in iran for quite a while. yeah. but it's, it's taught, it's really tough. so i've, i've seen some of the aircraft. i wouldn't lie in the okay, so you're obviously leaning on the side of accident even though, as you said,

just before, you know what the other side is capable of. yeah, i do, but there are some things that just aren't conspiracies and he just come out of the damn celebration as i understand that. and that sort of job where they were celebrating the joint potential for the joint construction other very important them there. and the weather was just absolutely obama, but what i would not have phone had i been in the pilot now could by being whose clearly suffering with his base head of november's election divert attention from god as to what is happening in europe. because that the mass will that conflict, the proxy war has disappeared a little from the headlines of native nation at media. what do you make of this seeming debate about whether the us you'd like britain allow weaponry to target russia within russia? a so stupid debate?

it's a long wise debate. it's a cruel debate. it's a bruno bag, and it makes no sense whatsoever. let's just take, for example, the reason shot, it brushes early warning system for ballistic missile shock from the united states of russia. that is the worst possible thing you can do with regard to their strategic warning system. so had it been the situation that exist as a couple of times in my experience with ours inside the military, there would have been a, a debate about whether or not to launch it goes. when you take out something that serious, that critical for over the horizon radar warning about ballistic missiles coming into your country, you don't have very long to debate and very long to decide you're going to shoot back. this was a very unwise mood. it was a stupid move 1st, giving the muscles i could do it. and then apparently approving the target that they chose to shoot makes no sense at all unless you're trying to get

a new career started. and god forbid that anybody's trying to do that. no sense at all kind of law. stop you that more from the format, cheapest golf at the us state department after this break the car executive. and i'm going to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show seriously. why? watch something that's so different. several opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do the have the state department c i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't want my show state main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, you probably don't wanna watch it because it might just change the way you

the welcome back to going on the right, and i'm still here with the retired go to larry wilkinson for the cheapest off at the state department so kind of at the end, the part when you were talking about this nuclear weapons radar system, the russian one that was targeted by ukrainian forces. so you're saying that the that targeting could only be done with nato troops in situ, in ukraine. i know the germany in france, i'll say that it's ok to attack russia with the, with the weapons the slightly i'm not, i'm not saying that. but zalinski is not stupid and grinding and military is not stupid, at least the leadership. so why would they select that target without their permission of washington? knowing that, that target was a severe escalation of all of what had happened up to that point. when you go to, it would be like when i was in the military, for example,

we had this the early warning all across north america and elsewhere. it will be like someone shooting that i remember bilbury when he was sector defense telling me about an answer or something like that happened. but it happened on a computer, but the person reporting it to bill when he was sector to say, i just didn't know it was the peer did not, was a computer glitch. you got a call at 3. i'm in that 3 am in the morning and he had 18 minutes to make up his mind on calling the president and advising the president to launch and attack. those are the kinds of things you just don't want to do. you don't want to go there . you don't even want to start the process and taking out a part of their distant early warning line if you will, is a really stupid act because we have summer boards that the u. k. snap election was because it's originally so that could be a prime minister that didn't want to become a one time lead of the u. k. chief of the army, general patrick, santa said, prepare for war with the rush or the reports. the government is telling the people

in britain to pack a 3 days shopping of food and supplies. what is what is seriously going on here? as regards people saying the was already begun with russia directly. that's a good question. but if you look at the decisions are being made and the money is being passed about conscription i should as well. and the people are jim stocum or for example i, i would have fire gen stalled and burned a long time ago. the man thinks he's in charge of an army or something. he's not in charge of anything except the talking shop and brussels. i'm but they, these are my crowd from france. he thinks he's the latter day charles de gaulle. it couldn't hold a candle to the former general, but those are kind of people we have a night or now to one of the reasons i said nato expansion was absurd. even though here we're talking about some people who've been in day though for some time, though the french are just recent rejoinders. well, you have to remind me,

who is the, if they do a buzz, when you are at the states, the cheapest job at the state department, but you're only in fantasy film, but you can't say a word without the imprimatur of had to be blinking to jake. sullivan truly was he just totally true because we picked him. we thanked him and we made sure he got there just as we helped pick the car and governments in sweden, norway, fenelon, and elsewhere. been working on it for a long time. i'm not sure they at all represent. there are people who fundamentally or still for some distance from nato and even neutrality, even with the invasion of ukraine. but we enter near the gym stolen burg, just as surely as we help the engineer of the victories are those people now predominant in those countries, those new members of nato. but i don't sure they'll work out in georgia. you know the newspapers this week i got the japanese financial times and that family own new york times, both that like good clockwork, one headline,

georgia keep pushing from taking a new born about the massive a support for american policy and georgia and the japanese after the demonstrated with georgia and people trying to demonstrate against the law which the european union anyways going to institute in that countries because the perceived russian threat, it's not gonna work in georgia or is it the over throw color revolution? the hey knows, but i smell bill burns and this a although bill would be a reluctant produce a participant, i think i don't know anymore bills turned into a different person than when i knew him when he was a system sector for new years near or use an asian, um it says, why do i have like the basset to moscow? of course, before he became the present, it present headed to see i and he's the one that he's the one that's, that's a very, very graphic and correct cable back saying yeah,

means net referring to is appreciation of what happened and if we really looked like what are we going to make you grain a member of nato? so we just don't know what happened to? well, i think, you know, you get so close to power and you have that additional power of being able to do almost anything. and that's the ca today. anything with a capital a and it goes to your head, goes to your head swiftly and you have the 1st customer is the president is now known. never use a language before, but now they use that language. and you understand why intelligence, real, real intelligence, even accurate, real intelligence gets turned into policy because the policy dictates what the intelligence can side. um, i had a conversation today with someone who was asking me about an article about our in our, the little state department intelligence entity, which is right about vietnam. write about a rack, write about afghanistan and so forth. they said there was an article out to that

effect. was that true? and i said, well, it's true with respect to one of the 16 the agencies within the intelligence community. but they're very small, they're very townsend, very professional. they're all experts regionally, language wise. and so forth, but it's not the truth that they were correct in assess the article and boards, they offered alternative advice to then d. c. i the director of central intelligence or other intelligence communities within the complex. but they were more or less correct in the general scheme of things in all those situations. but no one listens through. my boss sector po, did not listen to the lower the ca, to prepare him for the web w. m. d presentation with regard to a rack in february of 2003. i asked him to let me take the assistant secretary of state for intel into the research to see i wouldn't again he,

for bad me to do that. at that point, i should've resigned and wish i had, but i've later figured out why he didn't want me to take him over there. because then he would have had a real axe to throw at george tenet when he need to. but if the through that accident, george kennedy be drawing it to dick training and george bush and these are more through the george said that then then boss are busy. i but i mean, uh, yeah, the dns reports a so we recently as they were mentioning this program is if it's some kind of, you know, amazing, we important call going jewel politics. i wish it were as such as the d n i said in their foot notes. but um, i mean, i mentioned we were talking about the um, uh, radar system. what about the quote because city whole attack, most cocoa because of the all the tech. uh, a stat have any hallmarks of any uh us proxies even tell you what it has an hallmark for me, it has a hallmark for me um,

for what i have seen on more than one occasion, which is not just the wrong contra were really got into the papers and really bos, publicizing all most, got all reagan and pj, people don't understand how close reagan came to be, and page over on contra. but i hadn't seen it in a while until i came back in the government and then i realized it was alive and well. and that is the n s. c going operational, the national security council. statutory body design by the congress to more or less check the president. not do anything other than that. that is to say they didn't want anymore franklin roosevelt and so forth. so they great. and this body of people with him, the president would have to consult to include his own primary cabinet members. well, the other is gonna say is golf erased? also, answer your question long way to get to the answer. but it had all the hallmarks of victoria, no one uh victoria, only one had contacts with the as off battalion to contact with the other show we

say less than savory characters in ukraine. and in addition, through our actions in syria, we had contact with isis leaders, c i, a, and the us marines actually got into a firefight in missouri and almost killed one another or cause casualties until they realize what was happening. because one side was after isis and the other side was weird licensed. so it had all the hallmarks of, of victoria new and parting shot after, you know, she knew she was going to be fired or she knows she was going to be removed. so she goes rogue and she provides the context to ukraine with isis members and you have what you have. i don't know that that happened, but i would not be surprised if it did, which i think will shock a lot of uh, obviously russians and people around the world. i mean them, victoria, victoria,

and i should say, that explains why just the other day you see a reply to this show, but she was going to come on. she suddenly passed, coming on the show. why, why did she go by the way? because obviously you'd think someone like that career, would it be ended by the leak phone call over there, made on co uh all those years ago. the but yet, yeah. korea just went from strength to strength. what, how far did you go to get us all fired by a blinking state department structure under the joe. why? why take what i was just postulating or what i was speculating on got her fired. i think she was rogue. i think she used her position and gone rogue. she was doing things that may be general breedlove, the old boy from europe. we used to ride his motorcycle down into the environs and

talked to people. people realize breedlove was a grand style and for almost 3 years before he became sac here for 4 years. and he loved the rogers bicycle all over europe. is motorbike big, old, big old motorbike and breedlove i. i compare breedlove the curtis well may, if you're familiar with the movie, dark doctor strange law, the general in that movie is a caricature of curtis. so my, the man who bombed tokyo and killed more people in the fire bombing than we deal with the 2 atomic bombs. most americans don't know anything about and the man who outside the room, when kennedy was deliberating with the executive council about cuba, in october of 62, said, according to 2 sources, i have talked to that man all would be killed because he knew kennedy was not elect the military option with regard to cuba. these are the kind of characters that get

this country in trouble from time to time in victoria and new and just added her name to the list as well. just finally, it looks possible that trump will be elected in november of trump, of course, who uh, as regards what you were talking about, ca cutouts. uh, you know, okay, there and nice of dashing uh, syria. he is as an agent uh, got him philharmonic, the one that come on this was a fight against. uh uh, issac dia, she's in syria, but trump did say recently or that he ordered it. he wouldn't have the guts to go there and do it. and well, he didn't serve in the military. all right. but i think that was a good reason for that. i think he's kind of in that through the going to be nice, even though he said he said a and some interview recently that he could maybe pausing. julian massage with that, uhm without him. john list today are suffering all around the world, arguably have as he's incarcerated in that to max prison bite and won't do,

i suppose. what do you think about the chances of julia massage living to fight another day as he's tortured in london by british authorities. i'll put it so thankfully if trump would pardon him, i'd vote for charl kinda larry wilkinson. thank you. thank you. and that's it for the show of condolences to the survivors of u. s. u. k. u bones and palestine will be back on monday to ask the grandson of a signatory to his rails. 1948 declaration of independence, whether genocide in guys, that means the end of israel until then you can give a judge. why will i social media if it's not sensitive, you'll country and i to a channel going underground tv on the com, watching, you know, the episodes of going on the ground see monday, the,

the russian states never is as tight as on one of the most sense community, best of all sun set up the same assistance must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the rush coding and split the r t. suppose next, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services for the question, did you say a request, which is the,

in a move that could re catastrophic destruction, reports emerge. the key of plans to use dirty fault is to attack the curse guns that put or we can you clear power plants using weapons with radioactive warheads? also in the a large shopping mall in done yet skiff says that blaze in a ukrainian missile strike, leaving 2 dead on another 11 people wounded. this is where it all came. true for indonesia. on august 17th, 1945 freedom from the dodge calling you.