and been zaya, and was with chinese presidents agent being in badging this week. both like the international community condemn. israel is invasion of roughly enabled by the usa, u. k. and the u. nation's today voters and kind of bricks, member and biggest democracy in the world. india will decide who they want as prime minister in the final stage. i mean, it's 18th general election. i know pac plus meat in vienna to defy us schools to increase energy output. it's also the anniversary of the 1982 signing of a landmark. i n f nuclear weapons treaty between the us and russia. tune up by the old trump catalyzing a well today where israel, nato and russia, now named check the foreseeable use of nuclear weapons, whether it be in gaza or ukraine. joining me from falls church in virginia in the usa is a former us army officer, but he is kind of lawrence wilkerson the steve yourself, i've a state department, would you like hands and he blankets up. he adds an unconditional supporter of israel. thank you so much kind of air coming back on burning and beheaded babies in rough or multiple, they rush them is worth of t and t equivalent on garza and today the animals here,

the now ended i n f new create a treaty. how new is the world to nuclear use? now of senior senator lindsey graham told me about his rail and nuclear weapons just the other day. congressman said to gaza should be new. it's interesting that you bring up the iron yesterday. it was cold in pals greatest. he thought achievement with president reagan when he was national security advisor and deputy . and he said it was the most important booth or weapons true you all because those weapons were the most dangerous of all. and now we've destroyed the starting with george bush and the abm treaty, which was an on bridal stupid on wise act to abrogate the treaty. and he did it essentially because the new conservatives in his government wanted him to. so that one that can make money off the enormously expensive apparatus associated with the m d. but also because they hated the world as they do every body other than us

. and wanted to make sure that in the future they could defend themselves against a nuclear strike, contemplating that they would launch that strike. so that's, that's how it's dangerous. so eliminating the nav, 30 was and for all the others into it. and i don't wanna leave out the conventional forces in europe treating you may have seen the recently former blue flaw for general harrell co job and gave a disposition on our own presentation. a brilliant presentation era died sliding. alexander the great clowes with number of other people, but it is described how stupid, how unwise, our strategy is today, and what we're doing in your grain and gaza and elsewhere. i don't know where this country is going, but i do know it's not any positive place any time soon. i mean, just on the massacre in rough uh, the pictures of which uh,

being beamed around the global south. if then not being broadcast on what's being called us more often than not, nature propaganda, media that you have in the u, as in native nations. when natural security advisor jake sullivan, biden's advisor said, as you said, as regards the why, the us ascending weapons to israel committing genocide, according to most people around the world, he said, what we're going to be looking at is whether there is a lot of death and destruction from this operation. but as regards the may, the 15th uh, another $1000000000.00 of us public money sent in at yahoo. does he facilitate this all the cost? and roughly, of course he did. everyone who's completed a, as facilitated from president joseph biden, down to the lowest member of the united states government, who now has not walked out and resigned in shame and anger over the policy. um,

goes back up just for a minute. if you look at what is happening in the i, c, j, m, the i c c. we're seeing the 1st display of more or less balanced international justice. in the past the i c. c, basically a captive of the non signatory power of the united states. only what after black people in africa and then when the balkans are updated, they went after their 1st white people rather than garage it can sold it on milosevic. but still going after people that the c i a and the united states declared their enemies. now suddenly they've grown up now suddenly they've got a pair of components. now suddenly they are actually doing an international justice and look at what the great bastion of international justice here to for has said about that. we haven't even had congress members who would call in the family and

members of the i, c. c. and threatened them. this is not the way a head, german, or decent country or a country interested in its reputation and future acts as a way of country acts that is lost and building the rest of the world like the brakes, for example, into a balancing entity to take care of it and mark my words that will happen. so you'd see that as the mosque being off because a lot of people say the international vocation chord as you anticipate, gave them another month, the israelis to continue committing genocide. then we're even had that vague weighted resistance to occupation with the response to october, the 7th that arguable continual violations of un security council resolutions in westbank, in jerusalem that are continuing right now. it was, there was a student move in my view, um, jurisprudence is jurisprudence,

but you have to live in the world and it was a very balanced decision to take to 3 principal leaders of a mosque. and uh, you'll go out there and maybe not seeing you on the other side of the throne. some other people in there others are on man give here and there for sure. blood thirsty cell up to the is man give here would kill every palestinian man, woman and child in a heartbeat. if you have the apparatus and the method to do it. so out of thrown him in there just to make it a little more balance, $3.00 to $3.00, if you will. but the court has to live in the world, and i think it's a good to say, yeah, well, it has some stuff and they can get it closer to being reports of the threats to the judges before they were making their deliberations. but you mentioned ben could be a, you know, these riley laborer potty chief said that to give you here and then yahoo, where uh, collaborate is in the killing of ravine. and israel, do you think, what do you think that and yeah, well, maybe you can tell me, uh,

cause of course they denied about that and people don't watch the video. watch the video that they use, riley filmmakers put together and of course that we squashed as it was as soon as it across the ocean and were shown in this country. but it's a brilliantly put together video because about 2 thirds of the video, the documentary is actual footage, including the actual footage of the assassination. and from that video made by jewish filmmakers mind you and is real. that video shows how nothing out of the start of the crowds got the crowds to be violent. and a boy is and knew exactly what he was doing. knew what would happen, probably even knew the group from which the assassin would com. and of course, after the assassination, some years later, a resurrected a man made him a hero in the side or community. so baby was responsible for the assassination of youths that were being, as we, the united states of america are now responsible for the genocide and gaza as well

. and that kind of thing was known by us intelligence services. it was known in the state that when you are chief of stuff, you bet will them right now, you know, and that for years, do you think blinking realizes that netanyahu could be assassinated at any moment? that would be, you know, people ask me that question. mother said, you don't understand the right versus the middle and the lawyer. my father used to put it this way. the left in the middle, bankruptcy of the ride will kill you. the left in the middle have no, no, no desire, no desire, no, no inclination to go out and shoot people or to blow people up or whatever, but the right does the right or not sees the right or trotsky is the right or linens. i'm sorry, they are people who want to kill, to achieve their purposes. and so that's the people to be scared of. and that to now is the beginning of years and so forth. the damage can be done in other ways.

as my father used to say, the level bankruptcy, but they won't kill you. it's right. they will kill, use the hip verse of the world of okay. you know, since we last spoke, of course the president of iran has died in a helicopter accident. what were your 1st thoughts about that? i saw the beauty of nature, propaganda, media talking about how i'm popular a wise and basically the regime change and tire run and then suitably not show the millions on the streets of iran right across the country. morning him, what was your 1st thoughts when you had raised the a died in the helicopter accident so soon after this calibrated response to the us? so i'm going to be the, these are the bombing of the consumers in damascus as well. that one, right, right. easy is doing other than approving it, that was a very sophisticated group within the euro, or on revolutionary guard that the, the, um, my 1st reaction was i want to see what happened. it was towards the some film. i

got my wish and i'm a helicopter pilot over 3000 hours 1000 plus of them in vietnam in combat. and i saw the conditions under which that helicopter went down and those conditions were the kind that, for example, destroyed a lot of high and these, that the russians flu, enough kind of stuff. because you get into the weather situations that are so desperate with a heavily loaded helicopter and hot spaces. iranian helicopters aren't very well maintain because we have sikes from the be jesus out of the aircraft repair parts resumes. so they can't get anything new. they say there was an old bell helicopter for which they can get pods from the 3rd party is very easily, i should say, i've lived in iran for quite a while. yeah. but it's, it's tough. it's really tough. i've. i've seen some of the aircraft. i wouldn't lie in the okay, so you're obviously leaning on this side of accident even though, as you said, just before, you know what the other side is capable of. yeah, i do. but there are some things that just aren't conspiracies,

and he just come out of the damn celebration as i understand that. and that sort of job where they were celebrating the joint potential for the joint construction other very important them there. and the weather was just absolutely obama of the lot. i would not have phone and had i been in the pilot now could by the whose clearly suffering with his base head of november's election divert attention from gun as to what is happening in europe. because that the mass will that conflict, the proxy war has disappeared. the little from the headlines of nature, nation at media. what do you make of this seeming debate about whether the us you'd like britain allow weaponry to target russia within russia? a stupid debate? it's a long wise debate. it's a cruel of agents, a bruno of the bag,

and it makes no sense whatsoever. let's just state, for example, the reason shot. it brushes early warning system for ballistic missile shock from the united states of russia. that is the worst possible thing you can do with regard to their strategic warning system. so had it been the situation that exist as a couple of times in my experience with ours inside the military, there would have been a, a debate about whether or not to launch it goes. when you take out something that serious, that critical for over the horizon radar warning about ballistic missiles coming into your country, you don't have very long debate and very long to decide you're going to shoot back . this was a very unwise mood. it was a stupid move, 1st gaming on the muscles that could do it. and then apparently approving the target that they chose to shoot makes no sense at all unless you're trying to get a new career started. and god forbid that anybody's trying to do that. no sense at

all kind of law. stop you that more from the full minute, cheapest golf in the us state department after this break, the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case of the med, most of the people i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also a pursuit. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing, press 4. so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals, which allow me something living on my have very close propaganda. you know, price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions, ask a better. the answer is well, the, the,

the welcome back to going under granite. i'm still here with retired. go to larry wilkinson, former chief of staff at the state department. so kind of with the end part, when you were talking about this nuclear weapons radar system, the russian one that was targeted by ukrainian forces. so you're saying that the, that targeting could only be done with nato troops in situ, in ukraine. i know the germany in front of i'll say that it's ok to attack russia with the, with the weapons on slide. i'm not, i'm not saying that but zaleski is not stupid and grinding and military is not stupid, at least the leadership. so why would they select that target without their permission of washington? knowing that, that target was

a severe escalation of all of what it happened up to that point. when you go, it would be like when i was in the military, for example, we had just an early warning all across north america and elsewhere. it would be like someone shooting that i remember bilbury when he was sector defense telling me about an answer or something like that happened. but it happened on a computer, but the person reporting it to bill when he was sector to say, i just didn't know it was like a peer didn't know. it was a computer glitch. you got a call at 3. i'm in that 3 am in the morning and he had 18 minutes to make up his mind on calling the president and advising the president to launch and attack. those are the kinds of things you just don't want to do. you don't want to go there . you don't even want to start the process and taking out a part of their distant early warning line if you will, is a really stupid act. because we have some reports that the u. k. snap of action was because it's originally so that could be a prime minister that didn't want to become

a warranted. i believe that the u. k. chief of the army general, patrick scientist said, prepare for war with the rush or the reports. the government is telling uh, people in britain to pack a 3 days shopping of food and supplies. what is what is seriously going on here? as regards people saying the was already begun with russia directly. that's a good question. but if you look at what decisions are being made and the money is being passed about conscription i should as well. and the people are jim stocum or for example i, i would have fire gen stokeland bird a long time ago. the man thinks he's in charge of an army or something. he's not in charge of anything except the talking shop and brussels. i'm but they, these are my crawl from france. he thinks he's a latter day charles de gaulle. he couldn't fold a candle to the former general, but those are kind of people we haven't made our now to one of the reasons i said nato expansion was absurd,

even though here we're talking about some people who've been and i though for some time though, the french are just reason rejoinders. well, you have to remind me who is here. they do a buzz when you are at the states, the cheapest job with the state department, but you're only in fantasy film. but you can't say a word without the imprimatur of had to be blinking to jake sullivan. truly was he just totally true because we picked him. we thanked him and we made sure he got there just as we helped pick the car and governments in sweden, norway, fenelon, and elsewhere. been working on it for a long time. i'm not sure they at all represent. there are people who fundamentally, or still for some distance from nato, and even neutrality, even with this invasion of ukraine. but we engineer jim stocum burge, just as shirley is we help the engineer of the victories are, those people now up are dominant in those countries. those new members of nato,

but i don't sure they'll work out in georgia. you know, the newspapers this week i got the japanese financial times in that family on new york times. both that like good clockwork. one headline, georgia, keep pollution from taking a new born about the massive a support for american policy in georgia and the japanese after the demonstrated with georgia and people trying to demonstrate against the law which the europe and union anyways. uh, going to institute in that countries because the perceive russian threat, it's not gonna work in georgia or is it the over throw color revolution a hey, knows, but i smell bill burns and this a, although bill would be a reluctant produce a participant, i think i don't know anymore bills turned into a different person than when i knew him when he was a system sector for new years near or use an asian. um, it says, why do i have like the basset to moscow? of course, before you became the present,

present headed this guy and he's the one that he's the one that's, that's a very, very graphic and correct cable back saying yeah, means net referring to is appreciation of what would happen if we really looked like, what are we going to make to grind a member of nato, so we just don't know what happened to. well, i think a, you know, you get so close to power and you have that additional power being able to do almost anything. and that's the ca today, anything with a capital a and it goes to your head goes to your head swiftly and you have the 1st customer is the president is now known. never use a language before, but now they use that language. and you understand why intelligence, real, real intelligence, even accurate, real intelligence gets turned into the policy because the policy dictates what the intelligence can side. i had a conversation today with someone who was asking me about an article about our in

our, the little state department intelligence entity, which is right about vietnam. write about a rack, write about afghanistan and so forth. they said there was an article out to that effect. was that true? and i said, well, it's true with respect to one of the 16 then agencies within the intelligence community. but they're very small, they're very talented, very professional. they're all experts regionally, language wise. and so forth, but it's not the truth that they were correct in assess the article and boards, they offered alternative advice to then d. c. i director central intelligence or other intelligence communities within the complex, but they were more or less correct in the general scheme of things and all those situations. but no one listens to the my boss. secretary powell did not listen to the lower the ca, to prepare him for the web w. m. d presentation. with regard to a rack in february of 2003,

i asked him to let me take the assistant secretary of state for intel into the research to see i wouldn't again he for bad me to do that. at that point, i should have resigned and wish i had, but i later figured out why he didn't want me to take him over there, because then he would have had a real ax to throw it george tenet when he needed to. but if the through that accident george tenet it'd be drawing it to dick training and george bush and these are more do that. george said that then then because of the see i but i mean uh, yeah, the dnc report to so i read recently as they were mentioning this program is if it's some kind of uh, you know, amazing. we important call going geo politics. i wish it was as such as the day and i said in their foot notes. but um, i mean, i mentioned the we were talking about the radar system. what about the quote a city whole attack? most coke city all the time. uh. does that have any hallmarks of any uh

us proxies even tell you what it has an hallmark for me? it has a hallmark for me um, for what i have seen on more than one occasion, which is not just the wrong contra were really got into the papers and really bos, publicizing all most, got hall reagan and peach. people don't understand how close reagan came to being page over on contra, but i hadn't seen it in a while until i came back in the government and then i realized it was alive and well. and that is the n r c going operational, the national security council, the statutory body designed by the congress to more or less check the president, not do anything other than that. that is to say they didn't want anymore franklin roosevelt and so forth. so they great and this body of people with whom the president would have to consult to include his own primary cabinet members. well this did i say is golf erased? also answer your question and

a long way to get to the answer. but it had all the hallmarks of victoria maryland, victoria and the one had contacts with the as off, but i and she had contact with the other show we say less than savory characters in ukraine. and in addition, through our actions in syria, we had contact with the ice is leaders, c i a and the us marines. i actually got into a firefight in syria and almost kill one another or cause casualties until they realize what was happening. because one side was after isis and the other side was with vices. so it had all the hallmarks of, of victoria new in parting shot after, you know, she knew she was going to be fired or she know she was going to be removed. so she goes rogue and she provides the context to ukraine with isis members and you have what you have. i don't know that that happened, but i would not be surprised if it did, which i think will shock a lot of uh,

obviously russians and people around the world. i mean, um, victoria victoria new than the i should say, that explains why just the other day you see a reply to this show she was going to come on. she suddenly passed coming on the show. why, why did she go by the way? because obviously you'd think someone like that career would it be ended by the leak phone call over there, made and to all those years ago. that right. but yet to korea just went from strength to strength. what, how far did you go to get yourself fired by a blinking state department structure? be under the joe. why. why take what i was just postulating or what i was speculating on. got her fired. i think she was rogue. i think she used her position and go on rogue. she was doing

things that may be general breedlove, the old boy from europe, who used to ride his motorcycle down into the environs and talked to people. people don't realize breedlove was at ramstein for almost 3 years before he became sacked here for 40 years. and he loved to ride his bicycle all over europe, his motorbike, big old, big old motorbike. and breedlove i. i compare breedlove to curtis little may if you're familiar with the movie, dark doctor strange law, the general in that movie is a caricature of curtis. so my, the man who bombed tokyo and killed more people in the fire bombing that we deal with the 2 atomic bombs. most americans don't know anything about and the man who outside the room, when kennedy was deliberating with the executive council about cuba in october of 62, said, according to 2 sources, i have talked to that man all to be killed because he knew kennedy was not going to

elect the military option with regard to cuba. these are the kind of characters that get this country in trouble from time to time and victoria, and new and just added her name to the list. well, just finally, it looks possible that trump will be elected in november of trump, of course, who uh, as regards what you were talking about, ca, cutouts. uh, you know, okay, there and nice of dashing uh, syria e as, as an aged uh, got some certainly mining the one that come on. those are the fight against. uh uh, i just, i actually in syria, but trump did say recently or that he ordered it, he wouldn't have the guts to go there and do it. well. he didn't serve in the military or right. but i think that was a good reason for that. i think he's kind of in that through the, going to be nicely with. he said, he said a in some interview recently that he could maybe pause and julie and assigned with that, uhm, without him,

john list today are suffering all around the world. give away, have, as he is incarcerated, and that's who makes prison. buy them loans. i suppose. what do you think about the chances of julia and assange living to fight another day as he's tortured in london by british authorities? i'll put it so singly. if trump wouldn't pardon him, a bow for charl kinda la, welcome. thank you. thank you. and that's it for the show. i'll condolences to the survivors, all of us u. k. u bones and palestine will be back on monday to ask the grandson of his signature to his rails. 1948 declaration of independence, whether genocide in god's that means the end of israel. until then you can give a judge by law, social media. if it's not sensitive, you will country and i to a channel going under warranty, the hon dot com, what, you know, the episodes ongoing undergrad see monday the

a beautiful sun soaked, the vineyards nestled among some rest, taking the rolling hills as a gentle breeze comes off of the surrounding sea comic the imagery of french one country. but this has not france. we are in a coupon at russia on the black sea. where recently they've got a serious about making some world class once you cried, never transition to now of the ninety's kind of try out the politics of the 90s continued all the way all the way for the and of course to go see the crime that i never had a breach of trust. you coming up with some stability is the power off site. the

the you go to do it to her to provide me with the visually they shape the positions to wish for this understood world which you explain. people would show you the ultimate there's still a lot of savings that plumber to be 2 or 3 minutes silver. we took them out for the shock to just go to the dispatcher to push you up with somebody who does. she will? well, yeah. is that audio speak with the

the question is defense ministry safety i was looking to accuse most go a self to same as opposed to view crane's plans, new publication. in a moment, you have in 5 chief police ukraine and told us where it serves the power attack on the north string to pipelines, facing an operation of that scale i'm sophistication, couldn't have happened without and they chose the 5th is where it all came. true for indonesia. on august 17th, 1945, freedom from the dodge colony of rules and independence for the nation. indonesian loc, 79 years of independence from done the renewal of my officially it'll grace and gifts new capital city.