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and i'm asked sooner than say, welcome back to going underground boat crossing all around the world from the u. a where president shakela home had been zaya, and was with chinese presidents, huge and big, and badging this week, both like the international community condemn. israel is invasion of roughly enabled by the usa, u. k. and the you nations, today, voters, instead of bricks, member and biggest democracy in the world, india will decide who they want as prime minister in the final stage. i mean, it's 18th general election. i know pac plus meet in vienna to defy us. goal is to increase energy output. it's also the anniversary, the 1982 signing of a landmark. i am asking you to weapon street between the us and russia. tune up by the old trump capitalizing a world today where israel, nato and russia, now named check the foreseeable use of nuclear weapons, whether it be in gaza or ukraine. joining me from falls church in virginia in the usa is a former us army officer, if that is kind of lawrence wilkerson was to just stop by the state department. would you like any blankets up?
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he adds an unconditional supporter of israel. thank you so much kind of air coming back on burning and beheaded babies in rough or multiple eros, whom is worth of t and t equivalent on garza. and today, the end of us here, the now ended i in f new 3 a treaty. how new is the world to nuclear use? now of senior senator lindsey graham told me about israel and nuclear weapons just the other day. congressman said the gaza should be new. it's interesting that you bring up the are in yesterday. it was goal in pals greatest. he thought achievement with president reagan when he was national security advisor and deputy. and he said it was the most important new to weapons true you all because those weapons were the most dangerous of all. and now we've destroyed the starting with george bush and the abm treaty, which was an on bridal stupid on wise act, abrogate the treaty. and he did it essentially because the new conservatives in his
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government wanted him to. so that one, they can make money off the enormously expensive apparatus associated with the m d . but also because they hated the world as they do every body other than us. and wanted to make sure that in the future they could defend themselves against a nuclear stride contemplating that they would launch that strike. so that's, that's how dangerous. so eliminating the nav 30 was and for all the others into it . and i don't wanna leave out the conventional forces in europe treating you may have seen the recently former police law for general harrell co job and gave a disposition on our own presentation. a brilliant presentation era died sliding. alexander the great clowes with number of other people, but it is described how stupid, how unwise, our strategy is today,
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and what we're doing in your grain and gaza and elsewhere. i don't know where this country is going, but i do know it's not any positive place any time soon. i mean, just on the massacre in rough uh, the pictures of which uh, being beamed around the global south. if then not being broadcast on what's being called us more often than not, nature propaganda, media that you have in the us and nato nations. when natural security advisor jake sullivan, vitamins advisor said, as you said, as regards the why, the us ascending weapons to israel committing genocide, according to most people around the world, he said, what we're going to be looking at is whether there is a lot of death and destruction from this operation. as regards the may, the 15th uh, another $1000000000.00 of us public money sent in at yahoo. does he facilitate this all the cost? and roughly,
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of course he did. everyone who's completed it as facilitated from president joseph biden, down to the lowest member of the united states government, who now has not walked out and resigned in shame and anger over the policy. um, let's back up just for a minute. if you look at what is happening in the i, c, j, m, the i c c. we're seeing the 1st display of more or less balanced international justice. in the past the i c. c, basically a captive of the non signatory power of the united states. only would i have to black people in africa. and then when the balkans erupted, they went after their 1st white people right above the garage. you can sold it on milosevic. but still going after people that the c i, a in the united states declared their enemies. now suddenly they've grown up. now suddenly they've got a pair of components. now suddenly they are actually doing an international justice
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and look at what the great bastion of international justice here to for has said about that. we haven't even had congress members who would call in the family and members of the i, c. c. and threatened them. this is not the way a head, german, or decent country or a country interested in its reputation and future acts as a way of country acts that is lost and building the rest of the world like the brakes, for example, into a balancing entity to take care of it and mark my words that will happen. so you'd see that as the mosque being off because a lot of people say the international vocation chord as you anticipate, gave them another month, the israelis to continue committing genocide. then we're even had to bake weighted resistance to occupation with the response to october. the 7th that arguable
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continual violations of un security council resolutions in westbank, in jerusalem that it continued right now. it was, there was a student move in my view, um, jurisprudence is jurisprudence, but you have to live in the world and it was a very balanced decision to take to 3 principal leaders of a moss and uh, you'll go out there and maybe not in your on the other side, on it, thrones from other people and there are other thrown men give here and there for sure blood thirsty cell up to the is men give here would kill every palestinian man . woman and child in a heart beat. if you had the apparatus and the method to do it, so how to thrown him in there just to make it a little more balance, $3.00 to $3.00, if you will. but the court has to live in the world, and i think it's a good to say, yeah, well, it has some stuff and they can get it closer to being reports of the threats to the judges before they were making their deliberations. but you mentioned been give you, you know, these riley labor party, a chief said that to give you here and then yahoo, where uh,
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collaborate is in the killing of ravine. and israel, do you think of that? do you think that and yeah, well, maybe you can tell me, uh cuz of course they denied about that and people don't watch the video. watch the video that these riley filmmakers put together and of course that we squashed as it was as soon as it across the ocean and were shown in this country. but it's a brilliantly put together video because about 2 thirds of the video, the documentary is actual footage, including the actual footage of the assassination. and from that video made by jewish filmmakers mind you and is real. that video shows how nothing out of the start of the grounds got the crowds to be violent. and a boy is and knew exactly what he was doing. knew what would happen, probably even knew the group from which the assassin would call. and of course, after the assassination, some years later, a resurrected a man made him
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a hero and the site or community. so baby was responsible for the assassination of youth zach were being as we, the united states of america are now responsible for the genocide and gaza as well . and that kind of thing was known by us intelligence services. it was known in the state to us when you are chief of stuff, you bet. well them right now, you know, and that for years, do you think blinking realizes that netanyahu could be assassinated at any moment? that would be, you know, people asked me that question. mother said you don't understand the right versus the middle of the well, my father used to put it this way. the left in the middle of bankruptcy of the ride will tell you the left in the middle have no no, no desire, no desire, no, no inclination to go out suited people or to blow people up or whatever. but the right does the right or not sees the right, or trotsky is the right or linens, i'm sorry, they are people who want to kill,
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to achieve their purposes. and so that's the people to be scared of imagining hours they've been give years and so forth. the damage can be done in other ways. as my father used to say, the level bankruptcy, but they won't kill you. it's right. they will go use the hip verse of the world of okay, you know, since we last spoke, of course, the president of iran has died in a helicopter accident. what were your 1st thoughts about that? i saw the, the nature of propaganda media talking about how unpopular he was in this because of a regime change and tire on. and then, so did we not show the millions on the streets of iran right across the country? morning, him. what was your 1st thoughts when you had raised the a died in the helicopter accident so soon after this calibrated response to the us? so i'm wondering if the to the, these are in the bombing of the consumers in damascus as well. that one, right, right. easy is doing other than approving it. that was a very sophisticated group within the euro. iran revolutionary guard that the, the,
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um, my 1st reaction was i want to see what happened. it was towards the some film. i got my wish and i'm a helicopter pilot over 3000 hours 1000 plus of them in vietnam in combat. and i saw the conditions under which that helicopter went down and those conditions were the kind that, for example, destroyed a lot of high and these, that the russians flu, enough kind of stuff. because you get in the weather situations that are so desperate with a heavily loaded helicopter and hot spaces. iranian helicopters are very well maintain because we have sikes from the be jesus out of the aircraft repair parts, re games. so they can't get anything new. they say there was an old bell helicopter for which they can get pods from the 3rd party is very easily, i should say, i've lived in iran for quite a while. yeah. but it's, it's taught, it's really tough. so i've, i've seen some of the aircraft. i wouldn't lie in the okay,
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so you're obviously leaning on the side of accident even though, as you said, just before, you know what the other side is capable of. yeah, i do, but there are some things that just aren't conspiracies and he just come out of the damn celebration as i understand that. and that sort of job where they were celebrating the joint potential for the joint construction other very important them there. and the weather was just absolutely obama, but what i would not have phone had i been in the pile now could by the who is clearly suffering with his base head of november's election. divert attention from gun as to what is happening in europe. because that the mass will that conflict, the proxy war has disappeared. the little from the headlines of native nation at media. what do you make of this seeming debate about whether the us you'd
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like britain allow weaponry to target russia within russia? a stupid debate? it's a long while as the bait is a cruel debate and sabrina little bag, it makes no sense whatsoever. let's just take, for example, the reason shot it brushes early warning system for ballistic missile shot from the united states of russia. that is the worst possible thing you can do with regard to their strategic warning system. so had it been the situation that existed a couple of times in my experience with ours inside the military, there would have been a, a debate about whether or not to launch. because when you take out something that serious, that critical for over the horizon radar warning about ballistic missiles coming into your country, you don't have very long to debate and very long to decide you're going to shoot back. this was a very unwise mood. it was a stupid move 1st, giving the missiles like a do it. and then apparently approving the target that they chose to shoot makes no
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sense at all unless you're trying to get a new career started. and god forbid that anybody's trying to do that. no sense at all kind of lost up of you that more from the format cheapest off of the us state department after this break, the a beautiful sun soaked the vineyards nestled among some rest, taking the rolling hills as a gentle breeze comes off of the surrounding sea comic imagery of french one country. but this has not france. we are in a coupon at russia on the black sea, where recently they've got a serious about making some world class one the
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welcome back to going on the right, and i'm still here with the retired. good larry. well, because in full, the cheapest off at the state department. so kind of at the end, depart one, you had to hear about this nuclear weapons radar system, the russian one that was targeted by ukrainian forces. so you're saying that the, that targeting could only be done with nato troops in situ, in ukraine. i know that germany in front of say that it's okay to attack russia with the, with the weapons run slightly. i'm not, i'm not saying that, but zalinski is not stupid, and gray and military is not stupid, at least the leadership. so why would they select that target without their permission of washington knowing that the target was a severe escalation of all of what did happen up to that point when you go there, it would be like, when i was in the military, for example, we had this the early warning all across north america and elsewhere,
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it will be like someone shooting that i remember bilbury when he was sector defense telling me about an answer or something like that happened, but it happened on a computer, but the person reporting it to bill when he was sector to say, i just didn't know it was the computer didn't know it was a computer glitch. you got a call at 3. i'm in that 3 am in the morning and he had 18 minutes to make up his mind on calling the president and advising the president to launch an attack. those are the kinds of things you just don't want to do. you don't want to go there. you don't even want to start the process and taking out a part of their distant early warning line if you will, is a really stupid act because we have some reports that the u. k. snap election was because it's originally so that could be a prime minister that didn't want to become a what time lead of the chief of the army, general badging. scientists said, prepare for war with the rush or the reports. the government is telling uh, people in britain to pack a 3 days shopping of food and supplies. what is what is seriously going
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on here? as regards people saying the was already begun with russia directly. that's a good question. but if you look at the decisions are being made and the money is being passed about conscription i should as well. yeah, people are jim stocum or for example i, i would have fire gen stolen bird a long time ago. the man thinks he's in charge of an army or something. he's not in charge of anything except the talking shop and brussels. i'm but they, these are my crowd from france. he thinks he's the latter day charles de gaulle. it couldn't hold a candle to the former general, but there is a kind of people we have a night or now to one of the reasons i said nato expansion was absurd. even though here we're talking about some people who've been though for some time, though the french are just reason rejoinders. well, you have to remind me,
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who is the nature of boys when you are at the states, the cheapest job with the state department, but you're only in fantasy song, but you can't say a word without the imprimatur of had to be blinking to jake sullivan. truly was he just probably true because we picked him. we thanked him and we made sure he got there just as we helped pick the car and governments in sweden, norway, fenelon, and elsewhere. been working on it for a long time. i'm not sure they at all represent, there are people who fundamentally, or still for some distance from nato and even neutrality, even with this invasion of ukraine. but we engineered jim stocum burge, just as surely as we help the engineer of the victories are. those people now predominate in those countries, those new members of nato. but i don't sure they'll work out in georgia. you know, the newspapers. this week i got the japanese financial times in that family on new york times. both that like good clock work, one headline, georgia,
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keep pollution from taking a new born about the massive support for american policy and georgia. and the japanese, after the demonstrated with georgia and people trying to demonstrate against the law which the european union anyways. uh, going to institute in that countries because the perceive russian threat, it's all gonna work in georgia or is it they over through color revolution? the hey knows, but i smell bill burns and this a low bill would be a re lot to produce a participant. and i think i don't know anymore bills turned into a different person than when i knew him when he was a system sector for new years. near or use an asian? um it says, why do i have like a really down bass? it's a bosco, of course, before you became the present and present headed to see i and he's the one that he's the one that's, that's a very, very graphic and correct cable back saying yeah, means net referring to is appreciation of what would happen if we
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really looked like, what are we going to make to grind a member of nato? so we just don't know what happened to, well, i think a, you know, you get so close to power and you have that additional power of being able to do almost anything. and that's the ca today, anything with a capital a and it goes to your head goes to your head swiftly and you have the 1st customer is the president is now known. never use a language before, but now they use that language. and you understand why intelligence, real, real intelligence, even accurate, real intelligence, gets turned into the policy because the policy dictates what the intelligence can side. i had a conversation today with someone who was asking me about an article about our in our, the little state department intelligence entity, which is right about vietnam. write about a rack, write about afghanistan and so forth. they said there was an article out to that
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effect. was that true? and i said, well, it's true with respect to one of the 16, the agencies within the intelligence community. but they're very small, they're very talented, very professional. they're all experts regionally, language wise. and so forth, but it's not the truth that they were correct in the steps of the article and boards. they offered alternative advice to then d. c. i director central intelligence or other intelligence communities within the complex, but they were more or less correct in the general scheme of things and all those situations. but no one listens to the my boss. secretary powell did not listen to the lower the ca, to prepare him for the web w. m. d presentation. with regard to a rack in february of 2003, i asked him to let me take the assistant secretary of state for intel into the research to see i wouldn't again he for bad me to do that. at that point,
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i should have resigned and wish i had, but i later figured out why he didn't want me to take him over there because then he would have had a real ax to throw at george tenet when he needed to be through that accident. george tenet it'd be drawing it to dick training and george bush and these are more through the george said that then then both of us here. but i mean, uh, yeah, the dna reports a, so i read recently as they were mentioning this program is if it's some kind of, you know, amazing, we important call going geo politics. i wish it was as such as the d n i said in their put notes. but them, i mean, i mentioned we were talking about the radar system. what about the quote, a city whole attack most go could city all the tech uh does that have any hallmarks of any uh us proxies even tell you what it has an hallmark for me? it has a hallmark for me. um, for what i have seen on more than one occasion,
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which is not just the wrong contra, were really got into the papers and really bos, publicizing all most, got all reagan and peach. the people don't understand how close writing came to the page over on contract, but i hadn't seen it in a while until i came back in the government and then i realized it was alive and well. and that is the and i see going operational, the national security council statutory body design by the congress to more or less check the president. not do anything other than that is to say that it won't be more franklin roosevelt's and so forth. so the great and his body of people with him, the president would have to consult to include his own primary cabinet members. well, the others that i see is gone, authorized and also answer your question a long way to get to the answer. but it had all the hallmarks of victoria, no one victoria and the one had contacts with the as off, but i and she had contact with other shall we say less than savory characters in
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ukraine. and in addition, through our actions in syria, we had contact with isis leaders, c i, a, and the us marines actually got into a firefight in missouri and almost killed one another or cause casualties until they realize what was happening. because one side was after isis. and the other side was weird slices. so it had all the hallmarks of, of victoria knew in parting shot after, you know, she knew she was going to be fired or she knew she was going to be removed. and she goes rogue and she provides the context to ukraine with isis members. and you have what you have. i don't know that that happened, but i would not be surprised if it did, which i think will shock a lot of uh, obviously russians and people around the world. i mean them, victoria, victoria,
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new than the i should say. that explains why just the other day you see a reply to this show, but she was going to come on. she suddenly passed coming on the show. why, why did she go by the way? because obviously you'd think someone like that career, would it be ended by the leak phone call over there, made on co all those years ago. the but yet to korea just went from strength to strength. one, how far did you go to get us all fired by a blinking state department structure? be under the joe. why? while i take what i was just postulating or what i was speculating on got her fired. i think she was rogue. i think she used her position and go on rogue. she was doing things that may be general breedlove, the old boy from europe, who used to ride his motorcycle down into the environs and talked to people. people
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realize breedlove was at ramstein for almost 3 years before he became sacked here for 40 years. and he loved to ride his bicycle all over europe, his motorbike, big old, big old motorbike. and breedlove i. i compare breedlove, dakota sl may if you're familiar with the movie, dark doctor strange law. the general in that movie is a caricature of curtis my, the man who bombed tokyo and killed more people in the fire bombing that we deal with the 2 atomic bombs. most americans don't know anything about and the man who outside the room, when kennedy was deliberating with the executive council about cuba, in october of 62, said, according to 2 sources, i have talked to that man all will be killed. because, you know, kennedy was not elect the military option with regard to cuba. these are the kind of characters that get this country in trouble from time to time in victoria and
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new and just added her name to the list as well. just finally, it looks possible that trump will be elected in november of trump, of course, who uh, as regards what you were talking about, ca cutouts. uh, you know, okay, there and nice of dashing uh, syria, e as, as an agent. uh, got some philharmonic, the one that come on is on the fight against. uh uh, isaac dia, she's in syria, but trump did say recently or that he ordered it. he wouldn't have the guts to go there and do it. and well, he didn't serve in the military. all right, but i think there was a good reason for that. i think he's kind of internet through the been going to be nice. a with he said he said a. and so i'm interview recently that he could maybe pause and julian assigned with that, uhm without him, john list today, are suffering all around the world globally, have, as he is incarcerated, and that's who makes prison a bite and well, and i suppose,
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what do you think about the chances of julian assange living to fight another day as he's tortured in london by british authorities. i'll put it so thankfully if trump, when, pardon me, i bowed for charl kinda le wilkinson. thank you. thank you. and that's it for the show of condolences to the survivors of u. s. u. k. u bones and palestine will be back on monday to ask the grandson of his signature to his rails. 1948 declaration of independence, whether genocide in god's that means the end of his route until then you can give a judge. why will i social media, give me so offensive. he will country and i draw a channel going under warranty. the hon dot com watching you and all the episodes on going undergrad. see monday, the
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you cry never transition to the of the 9 to is the kind of child to politics of the not just continued all the way all the way for the and of course to go see the crime that i never had a breach of choice you come and take some stability is the power all site the the, the position i would suggest in belgrade was suggesting that we send americans and, and the bridges on the drain and put on your bill is as an obama
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moved on you probably now, and they'll talk soon, but as to when he is here, all the owners will tell you that you will see the 1st of last as you know, the middle of it is what i knew about. 12 past closeness, most of all the thoughts in this one is now that the the source will sit emotional around noon. it may be, you know, a lot less radioactive than the something is active uranium, but still, it's radioactive. it has toxins that have to keep killed the laptop. you want me to go and see. so ease of us here. again, let's see the echo seats. not going good. i don't know those. usually the mold was suggesting we firm fell. grace bill, call us what they were just the
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