ivan has been pursuing, i they want to change and so they're hearing it even if it's not the main screen but channels. yeah, i mean we, to name job i was, i saw on the phone to see more hush the other day and actually side came on this show off to his piece about the node stream pipeline supplying energy to germany, which is boomed and going on to go and produces a track down your own bloomberg. on october the to the 2022 and the presented to him came interrupted. you see me outrage thing jeff. we've got to stop there when you suggested that the united states could have been involved in that was before i see much as a piece and you said, i know this runs counter to on narrative and you're not allowed to say these things in the west. i was that interestingly, you know, when, when i post spoken to was some leading journal is of course they agree with me. i privately but publicly their, their papers or the media se does the opposite god. so the narrative is it is

a game, but a very deadly one and a very stupid one in a lot of ways. so much of what we hear a day to day is just lies. it's just manipulation. it doesn't even really pass for the truth, but it passes time. i saw that our government officials have something to say, even when they're doing outragious things. i mean, in terms of scale, even higher than guys and ukraine cove, it was a huge store. you were on the launch at cove, it commission to launch at the pre eminent scholarly journal in britain and medical journal. i you maintain that coverage and bio warfare were related as regards the, the, the warranty. they're obviously a story that we can't even talk about here. and if we want to be a well, a g, d, a, it's a very, it's a very strange thing the, the pandemic, a claim to around 20 millions lives. there are very good reasons to

believe that the virus came out of a laboratory work paid for funded brainstorm by the u. s. and actually having a serious discussion about it has been extraordinarily difficult. you can imagine why the us government does have on an open investigation. but what is surprising to me is how few i supposedly got a independent the investigators and journalists of care to, to look into this. and even the scientists have done a miserable job. scientific community policing its own community because this was a scientific venture. i'll be a one led by the us government. and the scientific community has not asked hard questions. let me just say i,

the origins of cyrus code to the virus that causes cove. it is still unknown, i would put it at most likely, i would say overwhelmingly likely that it came out of the laboratory research rather than out of nature as has been told to us. but we still don't know for sure . but what i can tell you is that there's been a lot of fate news about this, that it surely came out of the marketplace and so forth. and this is deception, not an honest inquiries the marketplace in china because there was a us guides that, well, let's get on then to this final day of the g 7 in purely a 7 countries, as corporations are literally making a killing of what is going on in gaza, i mean, do you think it's there's a case of saying the g stands for genocide after what you mean watching and saying these past 8 months in the latest round of violence that's been happening for

decades in west asia in palestine. the g 7 countries, but mainly the united states, which is the, the leader of the g 7. i grew into a lot of arrogance over the years of believing they could do what they want, say what they want when, where they would want to win. and so on, i, this is gotten the world into a 3 massive i geo, political crises of right now. of course, ukraine complete disaster for ukraine itself, 1st and foremost. but also for europe, the rest of the world, the devastating a more i a genocidal war by israel in gaza and tensions that are at the edge of exploding into open war in east asia. and especially over taiwan, of us is to my mind,

you're responsible after and all 3 of these advance when it comes to ukraine. the, your responsibility is that this war could easily have been avoided, that i really mean easily by nato. that means the u. s. declaring clearly, nato will not expand to ukraine. this was a promise given to the soviet and russian leaders back in the early 19 ninety's that made a wonderful one, each east ford and that day to has moved or tried to move relentlessly eastward and sorry to interrupt you for the past with, you know, that the circle john list, some would say external group is repeating, this would unprovoked when it comes to russia. moving to save the questions in these, what do you do you just flinch? every time you hear this phrase unprovoked, which is used by, i don't flinch. i,

i last i and i guess do crazy just a little bit because 1st of all, this is a provoked war. second, the word unprovoked is proof out in the sense this is part of the talking points of all of these reporters. they wouldn't even come up with the same word, same exact word, repeated endlessly, word not so following. so this is a war that had many prob occasions. it was a war that could easily have been avoided. when i say many provocations, it goes back to the us plan to expand nato, to ukraine, to georgia. back to the 19 ninety's does big brzezinski. contrary to promises that were made at the end of what we thought was the end of the cold war, i should say, i the unilateral us withdrawal from the abm treaty and 2000 to the 78

days of the bombing of bell grade by the united states and its allies in 1999 to break that country apart and install a nato military base in cost of old carved out from serbia, the overthrow of victory on a co which in february 2014 i where i victoria newland, the assistant secretary of state for the european affairs at the time was point person for this and absolutely and collaboration on regime change in the absolute failure of the us, germany and france to abide by defend and insist on the implementation of the bids. 2 agreements per vote of the car. so it was provo torso, come out of nowhere. i and do any one watching the history of this is seen these

prob occasions all along. and the point that i keep making is that at the end of 2021 i. this was already 9 years into conflict which started with the over throw got a co which i by the united states and right wing forces in ukraine. 9 years later, the big war could have been avoided and the fight in could have stopped when russia put on the table, a revised us russia security arrangement based on ukraine's neutrality on the non enlargement of data. when i told the white house, then take it, they'll go, she ate, of course there you find them off, agree but negotiate. i mean, did you speak to the state department? as i spoke to the white house and a i said, don't have a more over this, this is obviously avoidable. you see,

i know you're saying it's all v as in banking moon, as being on this, you'll be able to watch our interview with him. and he certainly said things that he might not have said when he was secretary general. but you were advised that the secretary general's secretary's general apparently is the graphic a correct way to talk about them. if you, if you say this is so will be as does antonio gutierrez. don't know that it's that obvious, because i think you may have used the word unprovoked at one stage or other. i think you the leaders around the world know that a, this is a proxy war. i'm not going to put words in anybody's mouth. least of all the secretary general, but i speak to a leaders all over the world. and i can tell you there is a wide spread feeling very wide spread that this is a proxy war between the us and russia. that the nato enlargement is a key part of it, and that it should stop now with negotiations. and that ukraine is the 1st and

foremost, the victim of all of this refusal on the western side to negotiate and this risk conference. so it's a no longer neutral lawgiver. well, this was conference was a shambolic to begin with and it's shut bolick all the way through. it is meaningless. i. it was a show. it's sad. it's sad to see switzerland be used this way. it really is sad to me to see switzerland used this way as a fax off to allow itself to be used this way. professor, fax, i'll stop you there. or from columbia university's director of the center for sustainable development after the spring, the or the

hello and welcome to cross the full board. here we discussed some we'll in the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with professor jeffrey sykes, president with united nation sustainable development solutions network to visit you told me about how the switch conference today doesn't mean much. obviously brush

has not invited in to it's you're supporting deal stein. i understand how for the us presidency, presidential elections and it looks like trump, many of the polls are saying, will there be any difference when it comes to gaza, specifically, or will they definitely be some change on ukraine or very difficult to tell. based on the pronouncements of trump and that back as we should say, that there are prominent is riley lobbyist backing the backing for bite. and, and for trump, look my advice to the rest of the world, which is so i 95.9 percent of the world because the us is 4 point one percent that the world population is be serious. the consequent insist on truth hanging together and don't expect uh,

any miracles, even stability necessarily from the united states. the u. s. is going to be stable and unpredictable. i after november, no matter what happens i. neither of the 2 lead candidates is a, is a candidate for peace. they each have their own different modes of behavior. but neither is going to bring the kind of reason i a peaceful approach to the world that we urgently need. it's going to have to come from the rest of the world that says, look, you're a big and powerful country, but you cannot run roughshod over the world. and the us bluster say will leave the you. when will leave, this agency will lead this a will walk out of this pre to get it may do many things, but the rest of the world is much,

much bigger part of humanity. i ended by acting wisely, judiciously operating under the un charter abiding by treaties being patient with us. please give it time to get back to normal. i. i think that this is the best approach because for all the optimism it breaks conferences. the recent one does one coming up in uh, cuz on, if you are a world leader and you do advise some of them i to present to you give that advice to them. what do you suppose to do when you were threatened by people from the state department or some of the other agencies that the united states? when you refused to obey us policy, whether it be a threat to your car and see whether it be to media attacks on your country, we've seen that growing during the gaza conflict when some gcc countries oppose us policy on what's happening and does, what are they supposed to do but a back to i think what they are seeing is that the,

these us sanctions and arm twisting approaches are, are just not as decisive as was generally considered even a year or 2 or 3 ago after all i what was going to quote to feed russia, this was a taking russia out of the swift banking system. this was the western sanctions that were going to be put on it. of course it failed, utterly and completely i. this is part of the point of the brakes. the brakes countries are now 36 percent of world outputs compared to 29 percent of the g 7 were in a different age a. so what yes, threats can be made, but i don't think that they can be decisive. i. i think if the rest of the world is calm and cool and not divided relentlessly,

as the us tries to do because that after all is the basic strategy of the empire is a dvd at inter divide and conquer. if the rest of the world is stable, i careful. i, i would say very prudent and professional in each state craft and diplomacy. these threats are just not so powerful. they are illegal in international law. they are really twist international institutions out of shape which don't want to be twisted out of shape. and so i think that there's actually real opportunity here for progress even with the united states. it's not, it's not cooperating. or, you know, one of the things that will move the 2 state solution to really being implemented is the unity of the european countries. i, they've been very, very clear. i the re,

uh, last november, uh, in uh, uh, in bach rain, uh, in may. the bach rained declaration to support it lays out what needs to be done. the king above the rain has a further consultative course with president putin, with president children paying. this is what the way watch it wants diplomacy. it wants a systematic approach. it does want the united states saying to one year, contract by our side will give you some goodies, but break with the rest. it doesn't want that. and this kind of unity will prevail, it because the only and that the one state solution is a multiple come out amongst the palestinian resistance groups. it has to be said and you really saying to me that, but let me say, let, let, let me just say word about that. if i may, there is an over whelming world wide consensus that

we need to states for 2 people right now. and there is absolutely a one state solution top of mind among both sides of this conflict and a that is the, unfortunately, the path to continued war and the world, whether it's china or russia or brazil, or india, or even in mumbling way, the united states. but a veto is all practical approaches so far. i says look, yeah i, we've got to settle this on the basis of the international law dating back to 1947 actually and 1967 and was, and was a discussions. so that's the, the world wide a view the united states has blocked it repeatedly on israel's behalf

is rarely government definitely wants a one state solution. they call it greater israel. i don't disagree with the one states. i didn't mean that the guys went from state to state who prevents i know, but i'm telling you that if we're going to have peace, it's going to be peace on the basis of what the world says. we need to stop the depths, the killing, the suffering, which is horrendous, which is genocide. it needs to stop. yeah. you remark recently on the fact that the nearby rain went to moscow and the badging, and we know that the, the kingdom is ad, your re beer is refusing to cut wild production on the orders of the united states ahead of november election. so what happens as the united states really run out of threats then against these dcc countries that are clearly for very different policies with regard to gaza. b u. a of course has been holding a rotating pin. have you in security council kept on trying to put forward

resolutions, the united states is going to just give up on threatening gc countries that can rest easy or we, in this region, going to expect further. the threats and i mean, not sanctions, it can be reputational damage. and media. i love my my own view. what this is that since 1915, the arab world has been manipulated repeatedly. i, it has been in be manipulated by the big man letters of the britain promising an error in the state after the end of world war one. it was manipulated in the sites. the code treaty was manipulated in a, in the balfour declaration which was contradictory to those 1st 2 initiatives. in other words, brenton was what an empire is. it was utterly deceitful and arrogant and

imposed together with france and america's uh apple. yes. and so a for size settlement that meant a 100 years plus of manipulation of europe world, everybody knows this. this is a long, sad story of outside manipulation. my own view for whatever it's worth is that this era of manipulation can come to an end. it comes to an end by unity because the yes, the us, uh, if it's dealing with one particular country, you don't have a lot of power. if it's dealing with the $22.00 members of the or a league of much less if it's dealing with the $57.00 countries of the organization of islam to cooperation. virtually not these threats don't count. in less, those were threatened to allow themselves to be divided and manipulated by an

outside threat. i think the world's changing, i think good. the idea that one country weather was britain, it's up to was 1945 for the united states. afterwards. i can make it so the so threatening the others manipulate international organizations, manipulate the international payment system. i think that this era is really at an end and we are entering a multi polar world. but it's very dangerous this moment. let's just find the look at the danger. so this is without an i n f treaty is we know, what did you make then of, uh, the united states and by the ministration changing policy saying that the weapons that they're sending, like britain from data while back and france and germany, they can target russia directly and the united states. now saying the as of

battalion, you might have to describe whether they are not seeing kline because you're banned from saying, though it's inclined if you're in brit. uh, what do you make of these announcement of being able to target russia directly of arming the as of battalion as a russian worship, talks in nevada with hypersonic. miss us next, 1st of all, by the loser of all of this is the ukranian people, perhaps of 500000 depths of ukrainians, a to this point, the devastation of so much of ukraine i. this is largely at the behest of the united states because when an agreement between russia and ukraine was tentatively breached in ankara, in march 2022, based on one principle that will end this war, ukraine's neutrality. the us sloop did,

boris johnson sloop did said don't take it your own way and well, this was a, a terrible, terrible advice, but a piece of advice. but it was also a dreadful awful miscalculation. i'm sorry you would just pay for your 600000, go hundreds of thousands killed because of this several 100000 more debts in ukraine of ukrainians because of that decision without question. of course, it's a auto tragedy. ukraine is often losing more than a 1000 people to get a wounded every day right now on the battlefield. i rushes military superiority in the air and artillery is very clear. it's, it's the us that keeps pushing them to, to fight to the last few crazy and that's, that's a dreadful ironic, good phrase. so puts it, but there's accuracy to it. it's the us now take arms can't fight and keep fighting,

keep dying. instead of negotiating a basic point neutrality, a space between the us led military alliance and russia justice space. this is a good rocket science. this is a basic idea of state crap that goes back more than 2000 years. leave a little space in between the major powers and there can be peace. and so as regards this targeting of russia as well, everything is an installation right now because i think among other things we know in american history, i don't lose before an election. so by and i have an election coming up in november . i and they don't want to see something like we saw in afghanistan in 2021 another. doomed us a misadventure. the dated. 40 yours by the way, long story, different one. but in any event i,

they don't want to see that before november. so they say keep the go up toward pap, which is extraordinarily dangerous and extraordinarily reckless and good. we should be pretty peeved about it because it's putting the whole world at risk for hazard jeffries ex thank you. great to be with you. thank you. that's over the show. i'll continue condolences to those re by u. k. u. s. u, i'm genocide will be back on monday with the electronic intifada is audio nima to breakdown false narratives about israel's genocide in nature, mainstream media. and you'll then keep in touch via social media. if it's so expensive, you'll country and i to a general feeling under warranty. the hon. they'll come to watch new and old episodes. i'm going underground. see, monday the,

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a request to check the in 1943 at the height of world war 2, bengal was hit by famine a year before jeff and his troops drove the rate is out of neighboring vermont. and came close to the indian possessions of the british empire. london's response to the threat was completely inadequate. the british actively used the scorched earth policy. while retreating, they turned everything around them into an uncouth deserts, having no mercy on other people's territory. food in large amounts was exported to great britain from the starving provinces. boats used for fishing and transporting

food along the river system more confiscated from the local population, the barbaric actions of the colonial administration. let the monstrous consequences . in a year. i've got 3 me, an 800000 people die from starvation and disease caused by mount nutrition. though great britain itself had enough resources to overcome the disaster. at the same time, 170000 tons of australian wheat made its way past starving india debris. it is aisles . i hate indians. they are a beastly people with a beastly religion. the famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits, british prime minister, winston churchill commented on the reports of the tragedy. the famine of 1943 became the climax in the british policy of genocide against the indian population. according to historians, from 12 to 29000000 people overall died from starvation alone during the reign of

the british in india. the hello and welcome to cross top bull horns on peter live out. here we discuss some real news. we're trying to really be able to bring the conflict in ukraine to an end, given the forces arrayed against him from the says he would end the conflict before being inaugurated. what would his deal look like? to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan, samuel, we in budapest, he is a pod cast, rent the gamble, which can be found on youtube and locals. and in merrill tests we have martin j. he is in ward winning, journalist and commentator, or a gentleman crossed up rules and the fact that news can jump in and tell him you want. and i always appreciated quite let's kick it off with george included as well

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